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== John Norum ==
Hi, please do not revert valid edits with tools intended to be used for vandalism. Thank you.--] | ] 13:39, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:Blanking article sections without prior discussion with regular editors and reaching concensus IS...for the most part...vandalism. Something that particular anon editor is becoming known for...and something I would've expected an Admin to know already??? ] 18:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
::Uh, no. The user clearly gave a reason, and a good one, why the section should be removed in his edit summary; it doesn't matter that the editor wasn't logged-in at the time. The edit wasn't vandalism by any stretch of the imagination.--] | ] 03:41, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
:Your point of view is valid and my rv should have been a more detailed "rv deletion of text without prior discussion or concensus"...or something to that effect. As for it being vandalism...the user has been given many warnings and been rv'd by many users(rv's with summaries, popups, VP etc) as his edits have been considered vandalism by quite a few others besides myself. Ignoring all warnings, attempts to dialogue or simple explanations as to why he refuses to got through proper steps(talk pages) before erasing entire sections, the user still continues his single purpose attack on varying articles. I am certainly not a fan of trivia sections either. But they exist throughout Misplaced Pages and, like any long standing section in any article, needs discussion and concensus before being turfed. Right? Cheers ] 10:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


You've started a war editing with no reason. John is the co-founder AND the current Europe axeman, so there's no need to edit this information. If you want to edit that page adding or modifying important informations you're free to do it, but you've also to respect others' contributions, expecially if they are checked and correct. Have a good wikitime. --MusicIsMyLove 07:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
== My RFA ==


: I'm not a teenager since a LOT of years, and your approach to this page written almost entirely by me was and still is really impolite. Next time, try to explain your editing avoiding offensive tones, and keeping the respect for the ones that worked hard to write a good and useful article. I can easily change the word axeman, but you'd have to keep in mind that AXEMAN is the common way to call a guitarist. --MusicIsMyLove 10:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Thank you, Anger22, for voting on my RFA, which passed 95 to 1. Now that I have the mop, I hope I can live up to the standard, and be a good administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. —] ] 21:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
== Go raibh maith agat! ==
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]<font color=green><small>Hi there, Anger22!<br /><br />Thank you so much for supporting ]! It ended up passing and I'm rather humbled by the support (and a bit surprised that it was ]). Please let me know if I can help you out and I welcome any comments, questions, or advice you wish to share.<br /><br /> Sláinte! <small>
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:: English is not my first language, but I have the same right to write an article in English without asking the permission to do it. If I'm wronging, please update me. If you want to edit it because of grammar mistakes, do it, EXPLAINING the editing and keeping a polite mode. Thanks.--MusicIsMyLove 11:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
== 66.226.32.195 ==


:: I totally agree with you when you state that the most important thing here is to have good articles, correctly written and respectful of the Wiki rules. And it's my aim to do my best with my contributions. It's the way you persist considering it "horribly written", "childish", "extremely poor" and so on that's offensive for the people that work at it since years. This article is here since years, a lot of people has given their contributions but you're the one and the only that has expressed a personal opinion in such bad terms. None is a teacher here, and no one could personally state if an article is good or bad, Wiki is a peer to peer community. So, each opinion will be taken in the right consideration, if expressed respectfully.--MusicIsMyLove 12:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
{{ipvandal|66.226.32.195}} seems to highlight a bug in your antivandal software. I already reverted and warned. You might want to pass this on to the programmer. ] 16:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Got your message. Will gladly help. The article had more issues than just that poorly written lead. All the text is a copyvio cut/paste from an external website. I will alert an admin friend as to what has happened and see what he thinks should be done. ] (]) 13:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Update. It's a copy/paste ] issue. Most/all of the text will have to be removed. If you need resources to try and build the article back up I am a librarian and can likely find some pro publications in our database that I can link to you for some decent content. have a nice day! ] (]) 14:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


:: Someone here tried to delete this article writing that it was a copy/past of the content of another website. Well, I've written most of the parts of this article, and I've taken some of the content from a website dedicated to John Norum. I'm the administrator of that website, I have no problem in giving the authorization to use that content. Since I've checked every single infos before publish them, and I've written just facts and not personal opinions, please let me know in which way it could be seen as a conflict of interests. Anyway, someone else has re-edited. Before starting a war, let's talk!--MusicIsMyLove 16:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Miramax Films ==
That's still a ] issue and I can't help with that. The text from your website can't be added. And you can't edit the page based on anything to do with your personal website since that becomes a conflict of interest. An editor has offered an opportunity to create a referenced article using valid citations. Fansites do not meet ] and can't be used as refs. We will have to rebuild from scratch using something else. Your website is fine for your enjoyment. But it can't be used for Misplaced Pages. ] <small> (])</small> 21:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


::It seems that's really hard for you to be a bit more polite, isn't it? You're tremendously OFFENSIVE, and you aren't able to understand that write things like "it's a poor quality article from a poor quality website" are offensive words. Who are you to judge the quality of a website? My website wasn't born "for my enjoyment" but to give CORRECT and more infos about John Norum, since at that time it was really hard to find something about him on the net. And since I'm a hard music lover and a huge Norum's admirer, I've checked every single info. I still don't understand the reason why a correct source of information as that article was (since 2 years) has been deleted and not simply edited.
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::I still don't think that this attitude is correct and respectful of others' contributors work. MusicIsMyLove 21:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I just call it like I see it. Sorry if you don't like a blunt opinion. I don't cow-tow around anything on Misplaced Pages. I just do what needs to be done and let the Barnstars speak for themselves. The John Norum article will be improved. But it will be improved following all ] and ]. That's the only way I know how to do it and do it properly. Read ], ] and ]. Also read ]. These are the foundations Wiki was built on. The offer for citations came from a librarian who has access to material that will meet Misplaced Pages's ] policy. It was a generous offer which I will take him up on when I have more time to apply to it. For now all I have time for is vandal hunting.(which is a non-stop need on Misplaced Pages). ] <small> (])</small> 21:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


::You've given just your opinion. It's not my aim to start a fight, I have a life and tons of things in my life that need my attention. That's a hobby for me, not a MISSION as it seems that's for you. You've stated that the article will be improuved. Well, I hope so. And I hope that it will be re-edited in the best English ever and following all the English Wiki's rules. I'll be there to check every single info that will be written, and I'll edit all the ones that won't be correct. Work well! MusicIsMyLove 22:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
I wonder if I may ask your advice. I - along with some others - have been trying to add a little info here and there to the ] article. And there appears to be one (or maybe two) anon users who keep coming and deleting anything new. Large chunks of text. No rhyme or reason offered. Some rv that you did yesterday got undone by the main offender. Someone restored it - and bingo it gets deleted yet again. The text is not remotely controversial. It's all non-contentious factual material. I don't know if this repeated deleting is considered vandalism. Or just poor manners. But there is no attempt to discuss on Talk Page. .Just wholesale deletions. Any ideas how to handle this? Thanks . ] 22:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Your assistance will be appreciated. But mind Misplaced Pages's ] policy. Your "correct" must mean correct and not just POV. Misplaced Pages wasn't built in a day. But poorly written articles can be torn down in a second. Good articles take time and patience. And ] from ]. Cheers and take care! ] <small> (])</small> 22:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


: Thanks. I'll do my best to be helpful. "Correct" in this case meant to have checked every single info. In which way? Asking to people closely related to Mr Norum, to Mr Norum himself, checking the official website and the official bulletins on the media. Etc etc etc. Only one official biography of Mr Norum was published, it's written in Swedish language and it was in the booklet of the Swedish special edition of "Face the Truth" album. I have it and I've translated it for my site and for Wiki. No other official reliable sources. Just tons of uncorrect infos on the music related sites. So... once again, work well! Take care. MusicIsMyLove 22:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Wikiproject: Guitarists ==
==Todays FA rvin'==
You beat me to it there, this is kinda fun although I'll probably get fired. Oh well...--] 14:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome anger. Quick question for you, what is a typical "reliable" source for information regarding guitars? Manufacturers websites? Thanks ] (]) 22:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
==Kurt Cobain==


==Black Ice==
I have NOT vandalized the page "Kurt Cobain". In my opinion, if you must have a picture of Cobain with fellow Nirvana members ] and ], you should note them. If you disagree, it would be wise if you licensed a picture of Cobain on his own, not with either Novoselic or Grohl.] 18:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm just glad to see I'm not the only person reverting this stuff. Cheers. ] (]) 23:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::The edit the anon is questioning had nothing to do with image captions. The user, in fact, blanked a large section of the article in question and received a vandalism warning for doing so. ] 17:21, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
:Exactly - there's a pretty good chance that will be the right title for the album, but I want to see some decent source to prove it first. Then I'll be right there reverting myself, I guess! Anyway, I'm doing okay somehow, despite the best efforts of some people in life! Hope you're doing well too :) ] (]) 23:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


==Avro Arrow== == Thanks ==
Thank you for helping revert the inadvertant. I was editing the very lengthy piece when I accidently made a mistake and eliminated the main part of the article. Thanks again for correcting my bonehead mistake.
] 12:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


, i tend to always check the history to see that i get all the vandalism but obviously i didn't do it well this time! ] (]) 01:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
==Buzz Shearman==
:No prob. For me, since I edit so many music articles I just compare the current version to the last time I edited it myself and look for the fluff. Speaking of which, that article is still loaded with it and could use some extra care if you have the time. ] <small> (])</small> 01:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, about ten days ago you left a message on bretonbanquet's talk page (]), and I removed the sentence about shearman and scott. I searched for a source but i did't find anything and now i see that message. I will add that text again, sry for disturbing. ] 00:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)


== Poll at Syd Barrett == == The Nobs ==


The article was merged with less than 50 minutes of discussion by User:Xymmax and only one person nominating. There was no discussion of it on the article talkpage. That IMO is poor. ] (]) 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I have a poll going at the ] page. Would you like to participate and help us solve an issue? ] 01:33, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
:Please inform me of any other Zeppelin related AfD nominations you come across. I've kept on notify almost all of them, but not some of the peripheral ones. ] (]) 04:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


== Thanks Anger == == is/are ==


hiya.
Hey Anger, thank you for supporting my recent ]. It finished with an amazing final tally of 160/4/1. I really appreciate your support. Cheers, ] (]) 10:38, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


regarding the gnr article, I know that an American band should use American English (seems fair to me) however I wasn't changing the grammar based on American/British English, I was changing it based on the rules for collective nouns, in both British and American English, we should use "are" when refering to a band name that uses plurals. check out the link on the gnr talk page if you want more info. thanks ] (]) 17:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
== 'ES-355s'? ==
:And after I left my post I found other similar examples of are being used for band names using plurals. Looks OK to me. By text book rules, Canadians should use British English. But due to our close proximity to the US we tend to alter our day-to-day speech/text to mimic those of our neighbour, rather than that of our British heritage. And, having finished my own education 30 years ago, I tend to forget the textbooks. Thanks for the follow up. Cheers and take care. ] <small> (])</small> 17:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


:: It's not a big problem - I always think people should use the grammar related to the subject in question - but in this case the grammar is the same for both American and British English... I get confused with both of them, I am British, I work abroad and use American English on a daily basis. ] (]) 18:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Lifeson never owned a 355 until late 1976 when he got his white one it from the Gibson factory in Kalamazoo MI. Alex used a tobacco sunburst ES-335 that he bought in 1968 for those early albums not a 355. The guitar pictured in the Caress of Steel sleeve is his a ES-335.


::: I'd appreciate it if you would have not left me with a vandalism warning on my talk page, and instead, would have explained the situation to me on my talk page as you would have done to a regular contributor. Thank you. ] (]) 15:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Over the years Alex has owned the following ES type guitars:
::::It wasn't a vandalism warning it was a article 'testing' reminder for ignoring ]. If you make a wrong edit your are obligated to correct your own mistake. You left the article in an incorrect "Yankee" grammar state rather than the proper British grammar wording. Just don't do it again. ] <small> (])</small> 20:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


== Led Zeppelin links ==
ES-335
ES-345 (2)
ES-355
ES-369


Uhm, from a LZ forum I found an interesting site about Led Zeppelin discographies: .
The ES-335 was damaged by a falling PA horn at a gig in 1978 on the AFTK, Nassau Colisseum, Long Island, NY. His original red EDS-1275 was also damaged and replaced by the white EDS-1275 that he owned up until the start of the Vapor Trails tour. The ES-335 was repaired and retired from the road. Lifeson still uses the 335 in his home studio.
I think it's a huge list of records / cds that it's not available anywhere else. I see that it was removed but billboard (is it a discography?!?) and Discogs (this was supposed to be interesting but now is only a waste of time) are still there.
Will you let me understand better what's ok or helpful or important or interesting for you?
Thanks
Artemio
:Read ]. Your link has been discussed by other editors and consensus is not to include it. ] <small> (])</small> 22:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:Ok, I didn't understand why as well, but if this are the rules I'll understand wikipedia a little bit better. Not what is interesting but what you decide? I don't care about that site but as a Led Zeppelin addict I think is unique, isn't it? Thanks for your useless reply. Artemio
You don't care about your own personal website that you have been trying to spam Misplaced Pages with for over a year? ] <small> (])</small> 10:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
: you're probably referring to someone else, I guess. Artemio <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Good grief. ==
The white ES-355 was modified for the Signals tour to have a gold Kahler tremolo system installed. The guitar was retired from the road after that tour and was subsequently restored back to original condition in the mid 1990s. The ES-355 guitar has since seen road duty on both the Vapor Trails tour (2002) and the R30 tour (2004).


] (]) 21:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Alex Lifeson used Hiwatt amplifiers on the AFTK tour in 1977-78 and again for the Hemispheres tour in 1978-79. Alex used Hiwatts and 1 Fender twin in 1980 on the Permanent Waves tour.


:Oops - forgot the body of the message - bad copy/paste job - Sorry :-)
All the information I have posted concerning the equipment history up to 1980 is all easily confirmed and verified by the May 1980 Guitar Player interview with Alex Lifeson.{{unsigned|24.151.74.76}}
:But never mind, by now it's already covered om my talk page. Thanks & cheers, ] (]) 10:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
:Good info. I misread the whole line about which era the 335 was used.(in my vandalproof window I just caught the 'red' text...my goof) It is common for his 355 use to be incorrectly changed en-masse to 335 throughout Misplaced Pages...I should have read more carefully. I knew the history of the original tobacco Gibson. I have Steve Gett's "Success Under Pressure" which tells the tale of the 335. ] 01:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


== Christmas == ==No problem==
You're welcome, and my apologies. I'll explain on the talk page in a bit. ] ] 04:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


== Re:Need your assistance ==
I don't see what I did wrong. I was trying to prevent vandalism. I didn't realise the other parts of the vandalism, so that went through. Sorry I tried to prevent vandalism. --] 03:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::cleared ] 03:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


Apologies, I had just gone offline when the message was left (contrary to my 'this user is online' thing...) but Journalist seems to have reverted him/herself, so you should be free to discuss the issue on the talk page now. ] (]) 11:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
== Nishkid64's RfA thanks ==


== The Game ==
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| Thank you very much for participating in my ], which closed successfully earlier today with a result of '''(60/9/4)'''. Although, I encountered a few problems in my RfA, I have peacefully resolved my conflicts and made amends with the people involved. If you have any further questions or suggestions, feel free talk to ]. I hope I will live up to your expectations. --] 22:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
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The Queen project does not have the right to over-ride wikipeida's core policies of ] and the related guideline of ]. Please revert yourself to the version that most closely complies with these policies. -- ] 04:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
== ] ==
:I replied on the article talk page and will wait to here from that Projects active members as to what should be done. It's simple respect. I 'have the com' on a few Wiki projects. And if someone steps in and goes against any of those Project mandates that person gets blocked for the disturbance. I am not a meber of the Queen Project. But I will respect them enough to see what they say on the matter. Misplaced Pages is a community. Not an indiviual effort. ] <small> (])</small> 04:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::If you respect Wikipeida's consensus process, you will agree that the community as a whole supports ] and its application to '''all''' articles and projects. However the Queen project decides is the best way to organize single and album discussions, they are not allowed to violate the ocmmunity's consensus that ] is allowed and all analysis must be sourced. I ask you again to return the article to a version that does not so blatantly violate these core ideals of Misplaced Pages.-- ] 04:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::And your claim that the Queen Project decided to merge all the individual song articles to the album is dated as well. Most of the songs have their own individual mostly unsourced articles. -- ] 04:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Only the single were given reprieve during their AfD process. Non-singles were merged.
Keeping cruft is not a habit. I am a staunch Wiki-deletionist and I try to AfD or speedy delete massive volumes of tripe on Misplaced Pages on a daily basis. But I support a community decision. Wiki is the only place where consensus can outweigh verifiablity. And a Wiki Project took it upon itself to nominate dozens of articles covered under its own mandate. And the result of the AfD procedure, which was a full community choice, was to merge the content into the main album articles. This was done for every album from the band not just the one you have dispute with. Trust me, of English Misplaced Pages's 2.5 million articles I would gladly delete 2 million of them if I had the power. But the project is built on community so the community always wins. Jimbo's first rule of editing is to ignore all the rules. But never at the cost of the community, or its consensus as to how it is built. All in due time. Cheers and take care! ] <small> (])</small> 04:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


:Until the '''Misplaced Pages''' community consensus decides that ] is not a policy, the policy over-rides any individual project's decision to do otherwise. The policy is clearly written
Thanks for the cleanup but just a note that you removed a legitimate message. No harm done, but that can be considered vandalism by some. --] 15:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
"Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or the material '''may be removed.'''" It does not say "must be tagged" and allowed to sit for six months. Unsourced material "may be removed." -- ] 05:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::When I gave that a quick read it sounded more like a post from a teen chat room. It was edging towards breaking the "talk about the article, not the subject" Wiki-rule for talk pages so I figured it could be cleaned out. Either way it's harmless and can stick. Cheers and take care! ] 16:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
::Please revert yourself on Neither you nor the Queen Project have the authroity to ignore ]. -- ] 03:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I did spot the 2 offending little bits in the lead. Apologies for not picking that off before. As for the merged content you must show some patience to the Project covering these pages. One day isn't patience. Misplaced Pages wasn't built in a day. If no active members have been online to see the alert placed on their Project then we should repect them and wait. The tag which I placed to identify your concern with the page draws attention from the entire Misplaced Pages community not just the Queen project. {Original research} tags are like magnets for Wiki-cleanliness-klans. Patience and restraint. Its not too hard. ] <small> (])</small> 03:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Can you point out when the merge occured? I have looked back as far as November and the only significant additions to the article are a few sentances of clearly unsourced opinion.
:::And again, the Queen project does not have the authority to put Misplaced Pages policies "on hold" for an additional six months until they decide to provide sources. ] says the unsourced material should come out. At any time in the future, editors from the project are still free to add sourced analysis to the article. -- ] 03:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Again I will ask you to revert your . While patience is a virtue, it is not a policy while ] is policy. -- ] 00:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Ah, but I didn't insert unsourced material. I simply replaced material blanked in bad faith of WP:AGF. Your 1 WP:V is trumped by WP:AGF, WP:POINT, WP:EQ etc. As I have said. I am a deletionist. I hate OR and uncited content. But I respect Misplaced Pages Project mandates. And I respect "the process". Had I been a part of the AfD's which resulted in the merged content I would've voted to delete it. But I ws not a part of that process and the process said merge. My AGF is that a Project member will respond to the challenge to either cite or remove. And my Wiki-patience (which is thin-to-none) is just courtious enough to give them more than a day. ]. It's what Misplaced Pages is all about. Chill. Go make a featured article or something. Trust me, I've done many and it's very fulfilling. ] <small> (])</small> 00:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:1) There is no difference policy-wise between insertion of unsourced material and re-insertion of unsourced material.
:2) Please withdraw your accuastion of my acting in bad faith. Removal of unsourced material is fully supported by policy. -- ] 00:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::Well, lets says we give them until, hmmm, Friday. And if they don't respond you can blank away. That's a good measure of AGF and gives lots of time to work on an FA somewhere. I know you just want to clean out the cruft. Which is a valid thing to want to do. I just think a little respect towards the Queen Project is a polite thing to do (seeing as how they were told by a full community AfD process to merge the song content into the article) Just about every Queen album article is in need of a good flushing. I;d say a good test of whether that project is even active would be to warn them (which has been done) that a page within the project is about to get "Hoovered" if they don't wake up. If you ask me I'd say the Project is a pretty much dormant. But I can still AGF them a little more time. Speaking of projects, do you play guitar? The guitarist project could use another dedicated editor in the ranks. You definitely seem like someone who is determined to make an reliable encyclopedia from this grand experiment. If you're interested drop by the Project page and take a look around. Feel free to contact me for more information. We'd love to have you onboard. Cheers and take care! ] <small> (])</small> 01:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


==Neil Peart== == RFA thankspam ==
I'll keep a beady eye on it, but I'm not so active over the w/e's so I'm afraid you may have to get your hands dirty;). If it happens again, in the manner and tone of the last time, maybe we should point him towards ] and ], ] and ]? might help. He's a newbie using sources, afterall, just not in the right way...--] 07:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
:Hang on...just seen your edit comment. Not a newbie then?--] 07:40, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for your support in ], which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, ].
== reversion of reload page ==


Cheers!
You reverted the addition of "Alternative Metal" category to the ] page. Why? It seems valid to me. ] 23:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
:That's a topic that's been beat to death on many talk pages and it's been rv'd countless times going back long before I started editing Misplaced Pages. Plain and simple...there's nothing alt-metal about it. No Tool comparisons, no Rammstein comparisons, No Primus comparisons, No Mr Bungle comparisons, No Faith no More comparisons, no NiN comparisons...etc. ] has always leaned toward leaving it out. ] 23:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


]]] 20:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
== Admin? ==


== ] ==
Well, what do you think? Ready to give ] a whirl? With 11000+ edits, 7 months of experience, an eye for maintenance work, and a cool temperament, I think you're a great candidate. Let me know. --]<sup>]</sup>&nbsp;<small><font color="brown">]</font></small> 16:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:You can count on my vote, thats for sure--] 16:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::Golly gee whiz gosh, I'm humbled :) . I really do appreciate the vote of confidence...but...right now my work schedule is a bit hectic. Popping in and out to rv vandals is easy(I can do that in my sleep). But I don't really have time to focus, Q&A wise, on an RfA. Things should cool down in a week or three. I will have more free time will give it a go then. Sound OK? Cheers and again thanks! ] 16:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Alrighty, I'll ask again toward the end of the month =). --]<sup>]</sup>&nbsp;<small><font color="brown">]</font></small> 16:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


Why did you change Infobox Musical artist2 to Infobox Musical artist? Infobox Musical artist2 is better since it has the styles field. ] (]) 01:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
== not me! ==
==Infobox==
::Just noticing. ] which contains the rejected field and is a template not supported by WP:MUSICIAN should be speedy deleted quickly as it has already been mistakenly used on a couple of different articles. Thanks again for following up on your hasty change. Perhaps you can put it forward again another day as an option for the Musician Project to ponder. ] <small> (])</small> 00:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I've corrected the Mariah Carey article. Just to further note on how Allmusic has been rejected as a reliable source for genres; One of the listed entries in the box was adult contemporary. I am guessing this error comes from blindly using Allmusic as a cut/paste for the content of the field. But it demonstrates a key reason why the genre/style split won't work on Wiki. Adult contemporary is a radio format and not a genre or style at all. The same problem pops up often when editors mistakenly add AOR into the genre box. Again a clear radio format and not a genre or style and yet it is used incorrectly in many Allmusic articles. Misplaced Pages clearly defines these terms as radio formats and not genres so adding them into the infobox and using allmusic as a support is, in fact adding contradictory information and also blatantly false information as well. The use of "classic rock" is another example. Its a radio format and not a genre. But it gets mistakenly added as genre sometimes on Misplaced Pages, usually by new editors who don't know Wiki's accepted formats. There are still a few more pages using the test template with the rejected field. If you don't have time to correct them yourself let me know and I will correct them for you. Cheers and take care. ] <small> (])</small> 00:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::First off, ''you'' don't get to decide what works on Misplaced Pages. A discussion among five people does not dictate a binding policy on Misplaced Pages. I was told that the project may not accept the change to "their" infobox. I was not told that it was imperative that I use that particular infobox, that it is binding, or that I can't edit the way I choose. Misplaced Pages isn't a democracy.
::Notice this: , the Misplaced Pages FA crtieria advised that potential featured articles "should comply with the standards set out in the style manual and relevant WikiProjects." That statement has now ], which may imply that it has been recognized that not everyone agrees with the various projects, and they in no way ''dictate'' how people should act. Seriously, don't overestimate your project's "jurisdiction".


::Adult contemporary is a radio format according to what/who? An article that lacks any sort of inline citations and references? AC is a radio format, yes, but it also denotes . If you ask me, it's the articles within Wikiepdia that are "blatantly false" and need to be corrected and updated. Editors like you seem to esteem "consensus" (among, like, 3 people?) over Citing actual sources, which is a major reason why Misplaced Pages is falling to pieces. Cheers and take care! ] ] 01:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello
:::If you need something to talk about, focus on the fact that your infobox has a field for "voice type", prompting editors to add largely subjective and unsourced info, despite the lengthy discussion and edit wars and overhaul that occurred months (probably a years ago) fighting the influx of unsourced additions regarding voice types and vocal profiles (highest notes, lowest notes, longest notes etc). ] ] 01:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh it isn't "my" box. :) . "My" box was the beautiful/simple ''Guitarist Infobox'' (since removed). The Guitarist Project reluctantly voted to delete our infobox in favour of the Musician Project box after they agreed to included the instrument field (which, like all of the others, get abused). We agreed with the format as it was as long as it wasn't chenged without our project being consulted. (again more towards the field we requested) I personally do not like the voice_type field. It believe the history of that one goes to the Opera WikiProject. So, even though I do not line it, I respect that wish to have it there. I also do not like the origin field as it is never used properly. It should be a "band only" field. One fundamental field that is strangely missing is a "birthplace" field. Which means 'birthplace' has to be added as a coded break entry into the birth date field.(which as mentioned earlier, is rarely done properly) I also have had a major dislike of the colour choices right from the get-go. The coloured background field was the main reason the Guitarist Project created its own box in the first place. Oh well, we live with what we live with. The battle ground over the colours in that field was so fierce that I hope it never gets revisited (even though I don't like them) just because the battle caused a lot of wheel spinning and was a road block to productivity where music related articles were concerned. Consensus within the Song and Album projects seems to come so easy. But within the Musician Project... the battle field never seem to go away. But productive debate is good. And, in the end, Misplaced Pages will be better someday. ] <small> (])</small> 02:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::::My comments to you were not meant to extract a violation of WP:CIVIL or WP:NPA from you. I was only trying to assist you where you were making an error. I can see you are dedicated to trying to improve Misplaced Pages. But your passion for your opinion and your rejection of a consensus by a very busy WikiProject is not worth being de-sysop'd over. When I receive barnstars or push article to featured status it is not with the intention of making "WIkipedia fall to pieces". I do not see where you think that is what I am doing and am confused by the attack. I would think, as I near 30000 edits, that my dedication here wouldn't be questioned. I have been asked to allow my name to stand for RfA at least 20 times since I started here. And receive at least one email a week asking me to take on the mop. But I have rejected this honour in favour of doing what I do best... simply editing based on policy, community and consensus. I know the responsibility you have taken on by accepting the toolbox. And I sincerely hope that, though proper channels withing the Musician Project that you proposal may be accepted someday. But I just wish that in the future you are a bit more polite with me when I try to help. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::See, this is what I'm talking about. You may have intended to be "civil" and "helpful", but I found your message deeply condescending. You state how you "corrected" my edits, call my edit(s) "contradictory", "blatant false" and practically ''ordered'' me to delete it immediately without a second thought, and now state that I may be de-sysop'd, and you expect me to be cheery? I did not attack you. I stated that people's obsession with "consensus", even when that consensus contradicts authoritative sources (a big no-no on Misplaced Pages) is a major problem within Misplaced Pages. I did not intend to say you deliberately ruin the project. ] ] 02:20, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I can AGF that your remarks about making Misplaced Pages fall to pieces were not directed at me personally. I would also like to note, after seeing you refer to the WikiProject Musicians as "my" project... I am not a member of that project. Never have been. Never will be. But I am the driving wedge for the Guitarist Project whose tagged articles cross over many of the the articles marked by the Musician Project. Since the musician Infobox is shared by numerous music projects (except the composer project who flatly rejected the entire box and do not use it) proper protocol should be that whenever a proposed change to the box is introduced an alert should be placed on on the Project "siblings" so that all can take part. Unfortunatel this doesn't happen often so each project has members who "hawk" the Musician project so that nothing slips through the cracks. We all work towards the better "wiki-good". But the communication lines could always be improved. ] <small> (])</small> 02:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:Just to further comment I would like to note, after seeing you refer to the WikiProject Musicians as "my" project several times... I am not a member of that project. Never have been. Never will be. But I am the driving wedge for the Guitarist Project whose tagged articles cross over many of the the articles marked by the Musician Project. Since the musician Infobox is shared by numerous music projects (except the composer project who flatly rejected the entire box and do not use it) proper protocol should be that whenever a proposed change to the box is introduced an alert should be placed on on the Project "siblings" so that all can take part. Unfortunatly this doesn't happen often so each project has members who "hawk" the Musician project so that nothing slips through the cracks. We all work towards the better "wiki-good". But the communication lines could always be improved. Even ours :). I see your dedication to the Misplaced Pages Project. Hopefully you see mine a little better too. I do hope we can find a common ground and perhaps we can work together on a Featured Article someday. I've done several. But I haven't pushed an FA is quite a while. I am overdue for one. ] <small> (])</small> 02:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry for the incorrect assumption. I automatically assumed this because you were the first to always contact me whenever there was concern over my actions. To tell the truth, I automatically assumed that you were an Admin. I agree with the breakdown in communication across the various projects, and hopefully that can be fixed soon. Congrats on your FA's. I've only ], a few years ago (can't find the time nor energy to do more), which has gone to hell and back a few times. It may need updating now, but I'm too lazy. Would be willing to work with you, if time permits. ] ] 02:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I have over 5000 pages on my watchlist. I am sure we will cross paths on an article of mutual interest someday. Cheers! ] <small> (])</small> 03:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


==I'm Here To Help==
I didn't edit the Elton John page!
Hey mate, seen a lot of reversions out of you, which is great. But I happen to be a Ba:Lit grad and I was wondering if there were any projects you would like a little bit of wordy work on. Get back to me.
:Oh really! If that is the case then how do you explain It looks like vandalism to me. Anyone else think it shouldn't be called vandalism? ] 17:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:What is your edit interest. Lots of guitarist stubs need expansion. ] <small> (])</small> 10:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm a drummer myself, but I like practicing my critical writing so anything is fine.] (]) 02:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


== Led Zeppelin == == Apology ==


I accidentally left you a vandalism warning after failing to pay attention to the revert order. ] (]) 16:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
If fair use on images requires one to only use images from videos themselves in articles about that video then there is no need to delete images that are not from that ""video" (whatever that means). Yet you deleted almost every image including concert images that has been packaged and aired outside of that movie. Please discuss before reverting all of my hard work. Thanks. ] 17:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
::Only images violating ] were removed. No discussion req'd for ] ] 17:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


:I have deleted and removed the Huggle warning so you don't get accidentally blocked. ]] 16:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
That's not true. Only the two photos from the song remains the same could possibly be misconstrued as violations, and even they are probably acceptable. From Misplaced Pages's policy:


Thanks for the message, I'm a bassist/guitarist/drummer (spit! :P), I'll check the project out. ] (]) 18:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
"Images
:Sounds good. Let me know if you have any questions. ] <small> (])</small> 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
There are a few categories of copyrighted images where use on Misplaced Pages has been generally approved as likely being fair use when done in good faith in Misplaced Pages articles involving critical commentary and analysis. Such general approval must be seen in the light of whether a free image could replace the copyright image instead.


== Hi there ==
Cover art. Cover art from various items, for identification and critical commentary (not for identification without critical commentary).
Team and corporate logos. For identification. See Misplaced Pages:Logos.
Stamps and currency. For identification.
Other promotional material. Posters, programs, billboards, ads. For critical commentary.
Film and television screen shots. For critical commentary and discussion of the cinema and television.
Screenshots from software products. For critical commentary.
Paintings and other works of visual art. For critical commentary, including images illustrative of a particular technique or school.
Publicity photos. For identification and critical commentary. See Misplaced Pages:Publicity photos."


Really nice to get your welcome note. Hope you can check out some articles I'm working on and give feedback. What can I do to help? ] (]) 13:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Album covers, posters, and concert photos clearly fall under this.
:Sounds good. I will look at your articles. Let me know if you have any questions. ] <small> (])</small> 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


== John Frusciante ==
::You can pick one for the specific section dedicated to the vid(or down in the filmography section). But oversaturation of pics will bloat the article even further....and it's already way too big to begin with....see ]. If the article gets an FA push, the image fluff and the individual article sections will be the first things to go(all the album info is already available in the album articles themselves) Hope that helps. Cheers! ] 17:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


You must be mistaken. I don't know who Spike Wilbury is, but it was Grim-Gym and I who brought John Frusciante to Featured Status. Not this "Spike Wilbury". I am actually rather offended. It was Grim-Gym and I alone. Please get your facts straight. Second of all, I know every single thing about Frusciante. Everything. Therefore, I can tell you better than anyone else, that he's obviously a notable guitar player. The tabs in the infobox are not mandatory and adding "guitar" would not help anyone realize he's a guitarist. ] <sup>]</sup>] 03:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
So now it's a question of the quantity of pics? If that's the case, why were you deleting everything? Your getting a bit wishy-washy. Have you looked at the articles on the albums themselves--they're crap, so I question your assertion that all of the information can be found there; I wish it was, but it isn't.] 17:45, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:I'm sorry for the above comment. Haha. I read your first reply without finishing. It got me a little miffed. My apologies. Anyway, I take photographs for magazines sometimes as a side job and someone I met from a photo shoot was selling their original Strat so I bought it from them. I got the Jag in a somewhat similar situation. That's really cool that you also have a 62 Strat. I love vintage guitars. The sound that comes from them just reeks of the wisdom things are only granted with the passing of time. ] <sup>]</sup>] 03:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, all the fields should be filled in where possible. Hopefully not over-killed. Would you mind if it was put to a discussion on the talk page. It was granted FA status with the field filled ion so it shouldn't be too offensive to anyone. It should be a ] decision and not just one/two people calling the rules. That's a ] vio. I have owned several elderly Jags along the way. I don't have any in the boneyard right now though. I am currently on a quest for the perfect Tele. I already own 3. The oldest, a 68, is not bad but there is something missing that I just can't nail on it. The other 2 are both around the same vintage. One of them is heavily modified and is one of my main studio guitars. But I use it for mellow Jazz tones (the mods) and it does not snap and twang like a Tele should. The other 2 come close. But not quite. I will keep looking. ] <small> (])</small> 04:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


== WP:GUITAR invitation ==
:There should be a dedicated LZ project the same way we have one for The Beatles and Pink Floyd. Something you could undertake maybe? I am not being wishy-washy( I haven't heard that term for 30 years) Images tagged as screen shots are pretty cut and dried. I gave you the PUI link if you feel they should be investigated. I saw LZ twice in 1973 and again in 1975. My only goal is to see them get a good article similar to the Pink Floyd or Rush articles. But not at the expense of Wikipolicy. Cheers! ] 17:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


Yeah, I'll join. Guitar is one of my main hobbies after all.
I would love to be part of such a project. As for the Pink Floyd article, they have album covers strewn all over the place (stacked on top of each other practically. and it's very disorganized. The LZ article might not be the greatest article on this website but I think it's "good" one to say the least (nice and tight with organized headings, some solid analysis), and as you can see on the talk page, it was rated A-Class. i must say I still don't understand your logic when it comes to screenshots. The general image policy states that screenshots are usually acceptable when used for artistic analysis. ] 18:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


Thanks!
::The Pink Floyd articles are in a bit of a shambles(vandalism patrol keeps me distracted) Plus, Dharm(the king of the Pink Floyd project and the one who got the PF article FA'd...almost singled handedly) has been on a Wikibreak since July....he is definitely missed. It didn't help that MightyMoose22 quit Misplaced Pages completely(fed up with policy breakers and vandals) Not sure whose holding the fort over there now. I was at the PF Montreal show when Waters spit on the drunken fan. I'd hate to see that article spiral. Thankfully the Rush article is patrolled(hawked if you will) by several dedicated editors. It won't have any trouble when it comes up for review. And it was sad, but expected, when the Beatles lost it's FA status. I am still not sure how it got the star when it only had 4 citations??? But it got tagged when Wiki was still young so I guess it was just "as good as it gets" when it went to a vote first time in. It'll get that way again. But it'll take time. Get yourself a proper handle so it'll give you more editing options. IP's come under a lot of scrutiny at the CVU(of which I am not a listed member) Cheers! ] 18:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


] | ]| ] 22:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I was surveying the Beatles article yesterday, doing a bit of cleanup, and I'm considering doing a major overhaul. Maybe you could help me if you know a bit about them. I really do think a solid history section is the foundation of any good article of that kind, and that's something the Beatles article is lacking--the info is there but terribly scattered. Of the listed articles, I think Led Zeppelin is the only one that comes close to proper FA status right now--a real shame. I'd like to work on the Pink Floyd one, too. About getting a username, the funny thing is, I already have one; it's just that I forget to sign in every time. ] 18:36, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


== British English on Led Zeppelin ==
::I watch the Beatles article for vandalism. If I see a series of valid edits I try to give them special attention that they aren't turfed by a "School IP with nothing better to do". Better to ask the regular editors to push for a combined cleanup effort.(There are a lot of familiar names that pop up over there) All I can say is: ], ], ] and no ]. If it doesn't have a good external ref...it won't(and shouldn't) stay + "O.R." just makes an article read like a junior high school book report. I will try to help when I can. Good luck! ] 18:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


These edit wars over the use of singular or plural verbs in the ] article are not getting us to the point, which is producing a stellar article about a very important group. I have ] in a measured tone with an attempt to explain the situation to my American compatriots. However, I feel some further action is necessary. My suggestion is to place a disclaimer at the top of the page explaining the use of British English. It may even warrant addition to the Led Zeppelin talk page template, perhaps a separate div box with a Union Jack and some bold text. The text might actually use the comment "Please do not change this to "were", it will be reverted back quickly. Misplaced Pages is an American Website, so none of that English Proper Garbage on here." made by our Texan friend ] against him. For example, <em>"en.wikipedia.org is the English Language version of Misplaced Pages. It is not an American website"</em>, etc. The wording can be discussed and agreed to over on the project page.
With that article, reformatting is all I can do really--all the info is there as far as I can see but I wouldn't know how to go about finding references for all of it. I'm working on it right now, just changing the topic headings an merging a few things. ] 19:02, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


I would like to know more about this situation in general. I have looked around a little but haven't found anything other than the statement on the ] page. If you know of any official stance regarding which form of English is to be used in which articles, please explain it or point me to it. This is unquestionably a tough issue to deal with - AI hasn't advanced enough to allow for robots that routinely repair misplaced subject-verb agreements in these cases. ] (]) 17:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
== Bot Editing ==


== Greetings ==
Hi, I'd be happy to show you what it is, but i'm not 100% sure what it means. Since I apparently do it, I'd be happy to explain it once I know what your refering to. Cheers. {{User|75pickup}}


You've been a busy lad, haven't you? What's the news? --] <b style="color:#000000;">♫</b> ] 17:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
== Rush ==
:Reply on your page. ] <small> (])</small> 20:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


==] image==
damn your faster fingers, i was attempting the same revert. I'd like to thank you for watching that page carefully to prevent any fallacious info about such a great band from getting loose inthe world, LOL. ] 03:27, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I'm flattered that you like the image of Rich that I contributed, but I think it is worth it to drop the old image into the spot currently occupied by the dupe of the Newport photo. Cheers, ] (]) 02:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:There's lots of dedicated editors watching that article. I just got to it first. ] 03:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


== RE:How are things? == == AC/DC album ==


Hey there, I don't know if you've already noticed, but the article on the new AC/DC album is up for deletion. I'm against the deletion - I don't know if you are or not, but if you're against, have your say here ]. Cheers, ] (]) 11:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Things are very good, thank you very much. Nice to see I haven't been forgotten completely <tt>:P</tt>. I've pulled back into being a wiki-gnome for a while, as school and life have awoken from their slumber and are now doing their best to make life hell. Anyway, I'll keep a lookout for your RFA and be sure to give you a full thumbs up for the great Wikipedian you are. I'd also like to give you props for recruiting more disciples to our cause. Cheers, good luck with Barney and ], ] ] 03:47, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for the support. I am in no rush to leap into an RfA right now. VandalProof and popups are coming in handy right now. I am very busy at work so being able to "one button it" is about all I have time for...other than talking to you...and the odd guitarist project article. Cheers! ] 04:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
::PS: School is more important than Misplaced Pages. Shh I didn't say that. ] 04:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


But no one ever said that Saint Anger sounded like Slayer. St. Anger was just very poorly produced, mixed, and written. I think if it was more refined, it has the outlines of what could be considered speed metal. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== LOTR Talk Page revert ==


== Rock music WikiProject ==
Hola. Just curious as to why you removed my LOTR Talk Page comments today. In what sense did you take my comments as "trolling"? ] 04:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed ]. There's alot of Rock-related articles on Misplaced Pages that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Rock music pages into the front ranks of Misplaced Pages articles. Thanks! --] (]) 09:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:My error...sorry. We must have been editing at the same time. The edit I was trying to rv was which you can see was definitely trolling. I apologise for you getting caught in the loop. By all means restore your text. Cheers and take care....and again sorry. ] 04:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


== Talk instead of trying to block me okay ==
:: No worries! Thanks for the quick reply, and keep up the good work. ] 05:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Those two projects didn't look active for me okay, sorry, i thought i was doing the best for the project okay sorry, wont happen again. --] (]) 21:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:I wasn't trying to block you. But your actions were not those of a person who honours the community. They were the actions of an asshole. Sorry to be blunt. But re-directing those two project was one of the most ignorant moves I've seen on here in awhile. I was a full-time session musician and touring sidesman from 1968 to 1986. Mostly in the Rock genre. I switched careers in 1986 but still do movie/TV/commercial session part-time. I would love to take part in the Rock Project as my years of experience and my long commitment to Misplaced Pages could help the project move forward. But not if its mandate is to ignore/usurp other established projects. ] <small> (])</small> 02:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Your probably right but. Why i did it was to give the project a better infrastructure like i did on the QotSA taskforce. But its not that importent anyway. Oh and good you became a member of the wikiproject. --] (]) 09:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


== The Sweet ==
==Message from ] vandal==


Quit taking metal out or ill report your for vandalism] (]) 13:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I didn't edit the Pink Floyd page. I've never even visited their page before. Now leave me alone.{{unsigned|68.118.205.27}}
::The edit the above user is whining about is No question as to what king of edit it was. ] 09:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


== Your re-direct is being questioned ==
== Possible Glitch ==


Thanks for doing it BTW. It was overdue. ] (]) 00:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I'm the user who spoke to you yesterday about the Led Zep article. There's something wierd going on over there, and I figured I might as well ask you about it. Every time I try to edit the article, it doesn't register in the history of the article; also, all of today's edits have been completely erased from the history section--no record of them at all, just gone--and it's now listing yesterday's edits as occuring on October 5th, which is just plain wrong. I made at least a dozen edits today and now there is no evidence that they ever occured (note that the last edits it lists by me were actually done yesterday, but are listed as occuring today). the strange this is these edits were registered in the history just a couple hours ago. I don't know if this has to do with the articles length (65 k) or what. Maybe you could take a look and maybe contact some admins (if something is truly wrong) since I'm a relatvely inexperienced user: ]. Try editing the article and see if it'll register in the history. This is really puzzling me. Thanks. ] 20:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
::???Not sure what you're seeing? I see quite a list of edits by you today. Perhaps just a simple browser error? ] 22:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


== Rushian rv-olution == == Gibson Les Paul Studio ==


Hey, I just wanted to drop you a line letting you know that I did some cleanup to ] and managed to get it promoted from "stub" to "c class". I have kind of found my calling as a copyeditor on wikipedia and would be happy to copyedit some more Guitar-equipment related articles if you would be kind enough to point me towards a few in need. Thanks. <span style="color:#000099;">'''Washburn'''</span><span style="color:silver;">'''''mav'''''</span> (''']''') 14:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The persistance of this guy is a bit unusual though, isn't it? Now if you were an admin you'd be able to instantly block any ip making that edit...--] 13:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's probably higher than a C class, I figured it was *minimum* C, so re-class as necessary. –<span style="font-family:Verdana;">] (])</span> 23:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Instantly? I don't know that I would want to abuse any tools. There are several admins already rv'ing the users edits. If they haven't put him on the block then there must be a reason. My name is Anger, but my disposition is far from that. I am only mean to my employees :) (And we have 1500 of them from coast to coast). Cheers ] 14:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


==]== == Meshuggah ==


Good day! Can you please tell me where does ] say that sources such as are not reliable?--] <big>]</big> 02:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
No problem at all. The offensive edit summary quickly caught my attention. Not to mention I also feel the current Howe pick is just fine. Cheers. ] 16:58, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


:Key word = blog. Linking to an blog written by a nobody does not constitute a reliable source. It's an ]. ] <small> (])</small> 03:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
== Buddy Holly & interproject coöperation ==


::Ok, but ] says also "''Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications.''" That material on MetalKult is produced by "a senior editor at ''Guitar World'' magazine. His writing has also appeared in the pages of ''Revolver'', ''Alternative Press'', ''Bass Guitar'', ''CMJ Monthly'', as well as on ''PaperThinWalls.com''" . Except for that, the amount and the momentousness of the information that has been take from the website is absolutely minimal - it is only two terms: ''technical metal'' and ''death-tech'' which are both mentioned once in the Meshuggah article - in a list of more than 10 genres. Nothing more. Therefore I think that the source is acceptable. --] <big>]</big> 10:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the heads-up about the Buddy Holly article. I'll try to get to it soon.


== ] ==
On the topic of "inter-project coöperation", I want to say, I'm as much (or as little) a member of the guitarist project as I am the musicians project (and vice versa). But my primary concern is the overall quality of Misplaced Pages--not just musicians or guitarists articles. I think I've addressed your concerns about the musical artist infobox on the guitarist project talk page, but you haven't responded, so I don't know if you have more issues, or if things are fine now. I simply want more inter-article consistency, but I'm willing to be pretty flexible in how it happens. I'm willing to develop a new, alternative infobox just for the guitarists project, if that's what you'd prefer. But at the moment, things are stalled basically on your objections, and I don't know how to move forward without more information on what, precisely, you're objecting to. I understand if you're busy, but I really would like to get more feedback when and if you have a chance. Thanks. ] <sub>]</sub> 18:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks for taking the time on the Buddy Holly article(pending). I didn't really have time to reflect on the last series of comments on the WPG talk page. I was hoping others would express some thoughts so we could move forward, together...working for one positive goal which is...as you put it..."overall quality of Misplaced Pages". I can't say anymore as to my thoughts on "inter-article consistency" that I haven't already expressed. 3 Beatles have musician boxes...1 has a "G" box. 3 Led Zeppelin members have(or will have) musician boxes....1 has a "G" box etc. Which is, I believe, how it should be. I am certainly for expansion of the current guitarist infobox...MINUS...the colours. Why...already this week it's been expanded to include an image caption....Oooooooo WOW!!!(sarcasm!). It's not much...but right now key project members(incl. myself) are either on Wikibreak...or busy with other Wiki issues so we don't have much input as to on what to to with it next. I, for one wouldn't mind seeing a "other occupations" line in it. Not so much to include other mucial instruments played but more along the lines of producer or film director or...whatever. Jeff "Skunk" Baxter is not only an famous guitarist...he is also an anti-terrorism expert for the US gov. Steve Morse is not just an amazing guitarist...he is also an airline pilot. The current infobox has no place for including that. But maybe it could? Before any further changes are made I would like to wait for Andy, the admin who created the guitarist project, to come back into the fold. He is currently on a much needed Wiki-break due to very important personal issues that, of course, are much more important than this little hobby. Maybe once he returns we can then set a path on what to do next. Cheers and take care....and again...thanks for "Buddy". ] 18:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


Just finished copyediting ].Feel free to give feedback on my edits. I did some heavy reorganization and added tables to awards and the discography. I also did quite a bit of grammar/ redundancy corrections. ](''']''') 18:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
== 60's underground musician's ==
:I think this article should be considered for a much higher rank as well. I don't want to promote it myself due to COI but I think it could be B class or higher at this point. ](''']''') 18:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


== Lonnie Mack ==
As a former "underground" musician I thought it might be interesting to list some of the artist's who were around in the mid to late 1960's and some of those who made it into the spotlight,like the "Grateful Dead","Sweetwater","Jefferson Airplane"and those who fell a little short, but still contributed to the "Cause" and the "Times" like myself. However, everytime I've tried to enter anything in I get a message from -guinnog that "this is nonsense" and it's removed, it is kind of insulting "I Was There"-I doubt that He was!! ] 02:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
::By your own admission..."fell a little short"... falls under Misplaced Pages policies: ] and ] which cover any/all non-notable vanity additions. It's not worth the edit war. You even removed valid content in your edits, which is vandalism for which you received a warning...from me. A couple more of those and you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Try and add legitimate content(that's ]) and you will stay out of trouble. Oh...and I was there too. ] 02:32, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for all your efforts and advice. I really appreciate them. Take care. ] (]) 22:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
== Judas Priest Plural?? ==


== RE: Clapton ==
Why is Judas Priest plural, is that just how you guys do it in the UK? No offense, but that's driving me crazy. ] 07:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
::I'm not in the UK but...in international English band names are treated as plural. It's only the US where they are treated as singular although, here in Canada, that sometimes rubs off on us. On Misplaced Pages, UK subject=UK English, US subject=US English. Hope that helps. ] 10:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


"''It was rude of me to speak about the guitarist project and not ask if you are a guitar player yourself''"
== My RfA ==
:Not rude in the least. I appreciate both of your messages. No, I am not a guitarist, just a regular guy who loves what Clapton can do with one. ] (]) 01:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


== Awards Box Inclusion - Music ==
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Can you provide a reason for resisting the inclusion of awards in the Music Box? Is there a compelling reason why it should be singled out when so many other boxes have it? Examples provided on the talk page. --] (]) 03:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
== image problems ==
:Which awards are notable enough for inclusion? Fanzine polls? Magazine "hall of fame" inclusions. The infobox is already over-populated with fields that 99% of Misplaced Pages editors have no idea how to populate correctly. Adding another will just mean more janitorial work. It's a discussion that's been beaten to death already many times over. ] <small> (])</small> 03:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


== ] Copyedit ==
The first user you mentioned (]) seems to have taken a break with the images, and I just left a note for ] (after deleting all those OrphanBot notes; I doubt they're helpful after receiving 5 of them). Hopefully that does the trick; thanks for letting me know. --]<sup>]</sup>&nbsp;<small><font color="brown">]</font></small> 03:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


{{done}}
== Thanks! ==
:Should definitely be considered for GA and after some reference adding, FA. ](''']''') 23:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


== Second Opinion ==
For your adding the James-Honeyman Scott article to WikiProject Guitarists. I added an info box the other day.


Hey Anger, would you mind offering a second opinion on the Eric Clapton discussion ? Thanks. ](''']''') 05:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
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== Re: back == == Adrenalize revert ==


Hey there. Could you point me towards the relevant rules/guidelines that led you to revert my editing the forms of participation in ]? Thanks. —] (]) 23:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I am still really busy but I am going to start trying to check in on a daily basis. You have done awesome work on assessment! Have you seen ]? It's a useful tool also for seeing when an article gets moved out of the project, because it will tell you that something was "Start class" or whatever, and then was moved "out". I will try to start hitting the unassessed ones this week. --<font color="3300FF">] (])</font> 19:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:Relevant links on how to avoid lowering Misplaced Pages into a cheap, poorly written project can be found at ]. The album cleanup falls under several policies and guidelines, beside avoiding ]. ], ] specifically ], ] etc. Aim for "encyclopedia" is the best motto. Not some poorly written amateur fansite. Too many Misplaced Pages music articles are already that way. The album project guidelines for correct formatting do not include the words "match the source album wording" anywhere. The guideline there is; clear direct links that do not duplicate anywhere else in the article. Hope that helps. ] <small> (])</small> 23:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:E is done (and cripes what a mess the EVH article is...) :) --<font color="3300FF">] (])</font> 22:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks for the reply.
::– From ]: "It is true that things labeled fancruft are often deleted from Misplaced Pages. This is primarily due to the fact that things labeled as fancruft are often...non-neutral and contain original research, the latter two of which are valid reasons for deletion." I don't see how "the voice" and "skins" meet either criterion, seeing as how they're taken straight from the booklet. Changing them to what we think they mean would be original research, however. Granted, it's not really a leap to change them to "vocals" and "drums"...that's why they were wikilinked that way.
::– I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for in ] and ]. Could you be more specific?
::– ] relates to the prose, and doesn't apply here.
::– ] seems to apply to the prose, as well. (We wouldn't change a song title that contains a neologism.) It's not a problem here because the info has a reference. If anything, ] is only arguing against my piped links.
::– ] doesn't include the words "simplify forms of participation to the most common terms", either. Nor does it say "clear direct links that do not duplicate anywhere else in the article", for that matter.
::– Check ] for an example of a featured article with credits that report some odd terms the artist saw fit to print. —] (]) 00:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


==Starcaster==
== WikiProject Guitarists Newsletter - Issue II - October 2006 ==
OK, I see your point. We'll just have to wait until we get a free image for an original. ] 00:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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: Just a thought - could you look at some of the free images of guitarists known to play the Starcaster (i.e. ]) in case there's a decent free image of one there? ] 00:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
==Barnstar==
:: Thanks! ] 00:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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On August 8 2008 you removed the external link to my Charvel site, www.charvels.com.

Any particular reason?


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== RE: Userpage and stuff ==

Hey there dude! Yeah, I'd be happy to try out something on your userpage. It'd probably end up looking similar to mine because I've forgotten almost everything I learned before so would just have to mash my design together and hope it looks ok here. Or I could hunt down something new and exciting. But whatever the means, I could probably help you out, provided, that is, I have enough time... last year of highschool is a biznatch. Hope you're doing well old friend, ] ] 01:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

== ] FAR opened ==

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:Thanks, I'm humbled! ] 22:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

::You are '''so''' welcome man, I am a ] how about you (<span style="color:red;">Death to Pop Fluff!</span>--]]] 22:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
== Hey!! ==
:::::I am actully a very serious guitarist I am starting to become pretty popular around my area, you seem very cool however please add your username to my friends list on my userpage (if you don't mind)]--]]] 23:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey!! What sights are ya seeing? This better be a metalhead pilgrimage. {{mono|1=:P}} Sorry about not getting to your userpage, by the way, pretty busy final year of high school... I'll work on it though! {{mono|:)}} Hope all is well, ] ] 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

:Nice! I hope that quest goes well, and you better send me a picture. I'm saving up for beauty. ] ] 02:03, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

::Oh, and not that I'll be able to get this any time soon (it costs $3000 Canadian dollars), but Gray black, too. ] ] 02:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== Re:Task force ==

That would probably be a good idea. I'm not sure how to do it though. ] ] 17:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== Remove 'Notable player' list from Hybrid Picking article? ==

Thanks for all your excellent guitar-related work. I've been watching ], and I propose removal of the 'Notable' list from that article and maybe moving it to a separate article. See other guitar-related 'Notable' lists like ] for (equally troublesome) examples. The list at Hybrid Picking is a magnet for repetitive fan-posts (Zakk Wylde, for example), has taken on a life of its own and is about to overshadow the main article, which is about the hybrid picking technique rather than the players. We can certainly expand the article to include notable proponents in context. Full disclosure: I added James Burton and Clarence White to the list a while back. Mea culpa. See related discussion at ], and that list was indeed deleted for the same reasons. Thanks again and best regards, ] (]) 16:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:I support removing POV opinion lists from all articles like this one. The guitarist project has actually discussed this before. Several "List of" articles wre created from those talks. ] <small> (])</small> 17:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the feedback, I found the old thread on Guitarist project, and have posted a proposal on the ] ]. Regards, ] (]) 07:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

== Alan Banks Deletion ==

Hello. I would like to protest the Alan Banks deletion as he meets the standards listed below:

# It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.
Multiple interviews and write-ups in Classical Guitar Magazine. Classical Guitar Magazine is the central information source for news in the Classical Guitar genre. It is published and read internationally.

# Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.
He has made many radio and TV appearances both in Australia and overseas including live broadcasts and recordings with ABC FM and recordings for BBC Radio 3, the UK’s premiere classical music station. His 2003 recording of Peter Scullthorpe’s “Nourlangie”, with the Ulster Orchestra, is repeatedly showcased on BBC radio 3. Scullthorpe is one of the most esteemed composers in Australia.

Ireland’s Frank Lyons and Australian Richard Charlton have written new works for Alan Banks. Lastly, he is a well known guitarist within the classical scene. That must count for something. Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Buckethead task force? ==

Hi there! I'm trying to install a task force under the ].
Would you like to ? --] (]) 21:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== Spider-Man ==

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== pink floyd far ==

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== Invitation ==

I took a stab at composing an invitation template based on one of your messages you left for someone last year. It can be added by typing: <code><nowiki>{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Guitarists/Outreach/Invitation|~~~~}}</nowiki></code>. Feel free to edit. As I'm looking through all of our project pages, a lot of updating and editing is needed. I'd like to clean out some old stuff we never used anyway (what is the "Buckethead task force"?) and update some things to modern wikicode. --] <b style="color:#000000;">♫</b> ] 03:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:Excellent, thanks. Now if I catch anyone " pickin' " on guitarist articles I can invite them to join. Cheers and have a nice day. ] <small> (])</small> 22:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== Go Johnny Go ==

I ordered a few books about Chuck Berry. I want to see if I can make it a Featured Article. I'd like to see if we can really work on getting the article of influential guitarists up to a respectable standard. --] <b style="color:#000000;">♫</b> ] 03:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
: Great, thanks for the tip on the extra materials. I have two books so far, ''Brown Eyed Handsome Man'' by Bruce Pegg and ''Chuck Berry: The Autobiography''. He apparently wrote this book himself without the use of a ghostwriter, which is quite some accomplishment. We of course have to be very selective about using material from the autobiography. I agree that the main focus should be on his music, with a much smaller personal life section. --] (]) 05:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:: Okay, I'll take a look at the Page article. As long as WP exists, I suppose we will have this kind of thing happening. I've come to believe that guitarist articles are among the most contentious articles out there, because people feel so deeply about their musical heroes. It's nothing compared to editing religious or nationalistic articles, I suppose! I just created a stub on ]. I couldn't believe we didn't have an article on such a long-time and important session player and composer. We had an amusing exchange when I emailed asking for a photo, where he explained how the popular media doesn't care about session musicians. How right he is. Anyway, thanks for the help on Berry. Some of these old rock and blues players get neglected here. I'm going to take a trip to the library to see if they can dig up any old magazine and news articles. --] (]) 03:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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== Idea ==
I think in the guitarist infobox it should show the tunings that the guitarist used the most. For SRV it would say 1/2 step down and for Eric Clapton it would say standard tuning and for EVH it could be Drop D or whatever he uses. Please let me know what you think of this idea.--]]] 16:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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John Norum

You've started a war editing with no reason. John is the co-founder AND the current Europe axeman, so there's no need to edit this information. If you want to edit that page adding or modifying important informations you're free to do it, but you've also to respect others' contributions, expecially if they are checked and correct. Have a good wikitime. --MusicIsMyLove 07:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a teenager since a LOT of years, and your approach to this page written almost entirely by me was and still is really impolite. Next time, try to explain your editing avoiding offensive tones, and keeping the respect for the ones that worked hard to write a good and useful article. I can easily change the word axeman, but you'd have to keep in mind that AXEMAN is the common way to call a guitarist. --MusicIsMyLove 10:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talkcontribs)
English is not my first language, but I have the same right to write an article in English without asking the permission to do it. If I'm wronging, please update me. If you want to edit it because of grammar mistakes, do it, EXPLAINING the editing and keeping a polite mode. Thanks.--MusicIsMyLove 11:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I totally agree with you when you state that the most important thing here is to have good articles, correctly written and respectful of the Wiki rules. And it's my aim to do my best with my contributions. It's the way you persist considering it "horribly written", "childish", "extremely poor" and so on that's offensive for the people that work at it since years. This article is here since years, a lot of people has given their contributions but you're the one and the only that has expressed a personal opinion in such bad terms. None is a teacher here, and no one could personally state if an article is good or bad, Wiki is a peer to peer community. So, each opinion will be taken in the right consideration, if expressed respectfully.--MusicIsMyLove 12:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talkcontribs)

Got your message. Will gladly help. The article had more issues than just that poorly written lead. All the text is a copyvio cut/paste from an external website. I will alert an admin friend as to what has happened and see what he thinks should be done. Libs (talk) 13:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Update. It's a copy/paste WP:COI issue. Most/all of the text will have to be removed. If you need resources to try and build the article back up I am a librarian and can likely find some pro publications in our database that I can link to you for some decent content. have a nice day! Libs (talk) 14:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Someone here tried to delete this article writing that it was a copy/past of the content of another website. Well, I've written most of the parts of this article, and I've taken some of the content from a website dedicated to John Norum. I'm the administrator of that website, I have no problem in giving the authorization to use that content. Since I've checked every single infos before publish them, and I've written just facts and not personal opinions, please let me know in which way it could be seen as a conflict of interests. Anyway, someone else has re-edited. Before starting a war, let's talk!--MusicIsMyLove 16:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talkcontribs)

That's still a WP:COI issue and I can't help with that. The text from your website can't be added. And you can't edit the page based on anything to do with your personal website since that becomes a conflict of interest. An editor has offered an opportunity to create a referenced article using valid citations. Fansites do not meet WP:RS and can't be used as refs. We will have to rebuild from scratch using something else. Your website is fine for your enjoyment. But it can't be used for Misplaced Pages. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 21:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

It seems that's really hard for you to be a bit more polite, isn't it? You're tremendously OFFENSIVE, and you aren't able to understand that write things like "it's a poor quality article from a poor quality website" are offensive words. Who are you to judge the quality of a website? My website wasn't born "for my enjoyment" but to give CORRECT and more infos about John Norum, since at that time it was really hard to find something about him on the net. And since I'm a hard music lover and a huge Norum's admirer, I've checked every single info. I still don't understand the reason why a correct source of information as that article was (since 2 years) has been deleted and not simply edited.
I still don't think that this attitude is correct and respectful of others' contributors work. MusicIsMyLove 21:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I just call it like I see it. Sorry if you don't like a blunt opinion. I don't cow-tow around anything on Misplaced Pages. I just do what needs to be done and let the Barnstars speak for themselves. The John Norum article will be improved. But it will be improved following all Misplaced Pages polices and editing rules. That's the only way I know how to do it and do it properly. Read WP:CITE, WP:V and WP:RS. Also read WP:CON. These are the foundations Wiki was built on. The offer for citations came from a librarian who has access to material that will meet Misplaced Pages's WP:RS policy. It was a generous offer which I will take him up on when I have more time to apply to it. For now all I have time for is vandal hunting.(which is a non-stop need on Misplaced Pages). Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 21:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

You've given just your opinion. It's not my aim to start a fight, I have a life and tons of things in my life that need my attention. That's a hobby for me, not a MISSION as it seems that's for you. You've stated that the article will be improuved. Well, I hope so. And I hope that it will be re-edited in the best English ever and following all the English Wiki's rules. I'll be there to check every single info that will be written, and I'll edit all the ones that won't be correct. Work well! MusicIsMyLove 22:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talkcontribs)

Your assistance will be appreciated. But mind Misplaced Pages's WP:OWN policy. Your "correct" must mean correct and not just POV. Misplaced Pages wasn't built in a day. But poorly written articles can be torn down in a second. Good articles take time and patience. And citations from reliable sources. Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll do my best to be helpful. "Correct" in this case meant to have checked every single info. In which way? Asking to people closely related to Mr Norum, to Mr Norum himself, checking the official website and the official bulletins on the media. Etc etc etc. Only one official biography of Mr Norum was published, it's written in Swedish language and it was in the booklet of the Swedish special edition of "Face the Truth" album. I have it and I've translated it for my site and for Wiki. No other official reliable sources. Just tons of uncorrect infos on the music related sites. So... once again, work well! Take care. MusicIsMyLove 22:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talkcontribs)

Wikiproject: Guitarists

Thanks for the welcome anger. Quick question for you, what is a typical "reliable" source for information regarding guitars? Manufacturers websites? Thanks Washburnmav (talk) 22:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Black Ice

I'm just glad to see I'm not the only person reverting this stuff. Cheers. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly - there's a pretty good chance that will be the right title for the album, but I want to see some decent source to prove it first. Then I'll be right there reverting myself, I guess! Anyway, I'm doing okay somehow, despite the best efforts of some people in life! Hope you're doing well too :) Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Cheers for this, i tend to always check the history to see that i get all the vandalism but obviously i didn't do it well this time! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 01:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

No prob. For me, since I edit so many music articles I just compare the current version to the last time I edited it myself and look for the fluff. Speaking of which, that article is still loaded with it and could use some extra care if you have the time. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

The Nobs

The article was merged with less than 50 minutes of discussion by User:Xymmax and only one person nominating. There was no discussion of it on the article talkpage. That IMO is poor. MegX (talk) 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Please inform me of any other Zeppelin related AfD nominations you come across. I've kept on notify almost all of them, but not some of the peripheral ones. MegX (talk) 04:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

is/are

hiya.

regarding the gnr article, I know that an American band should use American English (seems fair to me) however I wasn't changing the grammar based on American/British English, I was changing it based on the rules for collective nouns, in both British and American English, we should use "are" when refering to a band name that uses plurals. check out the link on the gnr talk page if you want more info. thanks Sennen goroshi (talk) 17:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

And after I left my post I found other similar examples of are being used for band names using plurals. Looks OK to me. By text book rules, Canadians should use British English. But due to our close proximity to the US we tend to alter our day-to-day speech/text to mimic those of our neighbour, rather than that of our British heritage. And, having finished my own education 30 years ago, I tend to forget the textbooks. Thanks for the follow up. Cheers and take care. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 17:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
It's not a big problem - I always think people should use the grammar related to the subject in question - but in this case the grammar is the same for both American and British English... I get confused with both of them, I am British, I work abroad and use American English on a daily basis. Sennen goroshi (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd appreciate it if you would have not left me with a vandalism warning on my talk page, and instead, would have explained the situation to me on my talk page as you would have done to a regular contributor. Thank you. 75.179.6.2 (talk) 15:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
It wasn't a vandalism warning it was a article 'testing' reminder for ignoring WP:ENGVAR. If you make a wrong edit your are obligated to correct your own mistake. You left the article in an incorrect "Yankee" grammar state rather than the proper British grammar wording. Just don't do it again. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 20:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Led Zeppelin links

Uhm, from a LZ forum I found an interesting site about Led Zeppelin discographies: . I think it's a huge list of records / cds that it's not available anywhere else. I see that it was removed but billboard (is it a discography?!?) and Discogs (this was supposed to be interesting but now is only a waste of time) are still there. Will you let me understand better what's ok or helpful or important or interesting for you? Thanks Artemio

Read WP:EL. Your link has been discussed by other editors and consensus is not to include it. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I didn't understand why as well, but if this are the rules I'll understand wikipedia a little bit better. Not what is interesting but what you decide? I don't care about that site but as a Led Zeppelin addict I think is unique, isn't it? Thanks for your useless reply. Artemio

You don't care about your own personal website that you have been trying to spam Misplaced Pages with for over a year? Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 10:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

you're probably referring to someone else, I guess. Artemio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.8.209.199 (talk) 13:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Good grief.

DVdm (talk) 21:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Oops - forgot the body of the message - bad copy/paste job - Sorry :-)
But never mind, by now it's already covered om my talk page. Thanks & cheers, DVdm (talk) 10:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem

You're welcome, and my apologies. I'll explain on the talk page in a bit. Orane (talk) 04:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Need your assistance

Apologies, I had just gone offline when the message was left (contrary to my 'this user is online' thing...) but Journalist seems to have reverted him/herself, so you should be free to discuss the issue on the talk page now. J Milburn (talk) 11:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The Game

The Queen project does not have the right to over-ride wikipeida's core policies of verifiability and the related guideline of no original research. Please revert yourself to the version that most closely complies with these policies. -- The Red Pen of Doom 04:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I replied on the article talk page and will wait to here from that Projects active members as to what should be done. It's simple respect. I 'have the com' on a few Wiki projects. And if someone steps in and goes against any of those Project mandates that person gets blocked for the disturbance. I am not a meber of the Queen Project. But I will respect them enough to see what they say on the matter. Misplaced Pages is a community. Not an indiviual effort. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 04:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
If you respect Wikipeida's consensus process, you will agree that the community as a whole supports verifiablity and its application to all articles and projects. However the Queen project decides is the best way to organize single and album discussions, they are not allowed to violate the ocmmunity's consensus that no origial research is allowed and all analysis must be sourced. I ask you again to return the article to a version that does not so blatantly violate these core ideals of Misplaced Pages.-- The Red Pen of Doom 04:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
And your claim that the Queen Project decided to merge all the individual song articles to the album is dated as well. Most of the songs have their own individual mostly unsourced articles. -- The Red Pen of Doom 04:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Only the single were given reprieve during their AfD process. Non-singles were merged.

Keeping cruft is not a habit. I am a staunch Wiki-deletionist and I try to AfD or speedy delete massive volumes of tripe on Misplaced Pages on a daily basis. But I support a community decision. Wiki is the only place where consensus can outweigh verifiablity. And a Wiki Project took it upon itself to nominate dozens of articles covered under its own mandate. And the result of the AfD procedure, which was a full community choice, was to merge the content into the main album articles. This was done for every album from the band not just the one you have dispute with. Trust me, of English Misplaced Pages's 2.5 million articles I would gladly delete 2 million of them if I had the power. But the project is built on community so the community always wins. Jimbo's first rule of editing is to ignore all the rules. But never at the cost of the community, or its consensus as to how it is built. All in due time. Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 04:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Until the Misplaced Pages community consensus decides that WP:V is not a policy, the policy over-rides any individual project's decision to do otherwise. The policy is clearly written

"Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed." It does not say "must be tagged" and allowed to sit for six months. Unsourced material "may be removed." -- The Red Pen of Doom 05:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Please revert yourself on this edit Neither you nor the Queen Project have the authroity to ignore Misplaced Pages policy. -- The Red Pen of Doom 03:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I did spot the 2 offending little bits in the lead. Apologies for not picking that off before. As for the merged content you must show some patience to the Project covering these pages. One day isn't patience. Misplaced Pages wasn't built in a day. If no active members have been online to see the alert placed on their Project then we should repect them and wait. The tag which I placed to identify your concern with the page draws attention from the entire Misplaced Pages community not just the Queen project. {Original research} tags are like magnets for Wiki-cleanliness-klans. Patience and restraint. Its not too hard. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you point out when the merge occured? I have looked back as far as November and the only significant additions to the article are a few sentances of clearly unsourced opinion.
And again, the Queen project does not have the authority to put Misplaced Pages policies "on hold" for an additional six months until they decide to provide sources. Policy says the unsourced material should come out. At any time in the future, editors from the project are still free to add sourced analysis to the article. -- The Red Pen of Doom 03:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Again I will ask you to revert your insertion of unsourced material and analysis into the article. While patience is a virtue, it is not a policy while verfifiability is policy. -- The Red Pen of Doom 00:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, but I didn't insert unsourced material. I simply replaced material blanked in bad faith of WP:AGF. Your 1 WP:V is trumped by WP:AGF, WP:POINT, WP:EQ etc. As I have said. I am a deletionist. I hate OR and uncited content. But I respect Misplaced Pages Project mandates. And I respect "the process". Had I been a part of the AfD's which resulted in the merged content I would've voted to delete it. But I ws not a part of that process and the process said merge. My AGF is that a Project member will respond to the challenge to either cite or remove. And my Wiki-patience (which is thin-to-none) is just courtious enough to give them more than a day. Patience young grasshopper.... patience. It's what Misplaced Pages is all about. Chill. Go make a featured article or something. Trust me, I've done many and it's very fulfilling. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

1) There is no difference policy-wise between insertion of unsourced material and re-insertion of unsourced material.
2) Please withdraw your accuastion of my acting in bad faith. Removal of unsourced material is fully supported by policy. -- The Red Pen of Doom 00:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, lets says we give them until, hmmm, Friday. And if they don't respond you can blank away. That's a good measure of AGF and gives lots of time to work on an FA somewhere. I know you just want to clean out the cruft. Which is a valid thing to want to do. I just think a little respect towards the Queen Project is a polite thing to do (seeing as how they were told by a full community AfD process to merge the song content into the article) Just about every Queen album article is in need of a good flushing. I;d say a good test of whether that project is even active would be to warn them (which has been done) that a page within the project is about to get "Hoovered" if they don't wake up. If you ask me I'd say the Project is a pretty much dormant. But I can still AGF them a little more time. Speaking of projects, do you play guitar? The guitarist project could use another dedicated editor in the ranks. You definitely seem like someone who is determined to make an reliable encyclopedia from this grand experiment. If you're interested drop by the Project page and take a look around. Feel free to contact me for more information. We'd love to have you onboard. Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thankspam

Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoyadds 20:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Buckcherry

Why did you change Infobox Musical artist2 to Infobox Musical artist? Infobox Musical artist2 is better since it has the styles field. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 01:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Infobox

Just noticing. Template:Infobox Musical artist2 which contains the rejected field and is a template not supported by WP:MUSICIAN should be speedy deleted quickly as it has already been mistakenly used on a couple of different articles. Thanks again for following up on your hasty change. Perhaps you can put it forward again another day as an option for the Musician Project to ponder. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I've corrected the Mariah Carey article. Just to further note on how Allmusic has been rejected as a reliable source for genres; One of the listed entries in the box was adult contemporary. I am guessing this error comes from blindly using Allmusic as a cut/paste for the content of the field. But it demonstrates a key reason why the genre/style split won't work on Wiki. Adult contemporary is a radio format and not a genre or style at all. The same problem pops up often when editors mistakenly add AOR into the genre box. Again a clear radio format and not a genre or style and yet it is used incorrectly in many Allmusic articles. Misplaced Pages clearly defines these terms as radio formats and not genres so adding them into the infobox and using allmusic as a support is, in fact adding contradictory information and also blatantly false information as well. The use of "classic rock" is another example. Its a radio format and not a genre. But it gets mistakenly added as genre sometimes on Misplaced Pages, usually by new editors who don't know Wiki's accepted formats. There are still a few more pages using the test template with the rejected field. If you don't have time to correct them yourself let me know and I will correct them for you. Cheers and take care. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

First off, you don't get to decide what works on Misplaced Pages. A discussion among five people does not dictate a binding policy on Misplaced Pages. I was told that the project may not accept the change to "their" infobox. I was not told that it was imperative that I use that particular infobox, that it is binding, or that I can't edit the way I choose. Misplaced Pages isn't a democracy.
Notice this: A short while ago, the Misplaced Pages FA crtieria advised that potential featured articles "should comply with the standards set out in the style manual and relevant WikiProjects." That statement has now been removed, which may imply that it has been recognized that not everyone agrees with the various projects, and they in no way dictate how people should act. Seriously, don't overestimate your project's "jurisdiction".
Adult contemporary is a radio format according to what/who? An article that lacks any sort of inline citations and references? AC is a radio format, yes, but it also denotes the style of music played on said radio. If you ask me, it's the articles within Wikiepdia that are "blatantly false" and need to be corrected and updated. Editors like you seem to esteem "consensus" (among, like, 3 people?) over Citing actual sources, which is a major reason why Misplaced Pages is falling to pieces. Cheers and take care! Orane (talk) 01:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
If you need something to talk about, focus on the fact that your infobox has a field for "voice type", prompting editors to add largely subjective and unsourced info, despite the lengthy discussion and edit wars and overhaul that occurred months (probably a years ago) fighting the influx of unsourced additions regarding voice types and vocal profiles (highest notes, lowest notes, longest notes etc). Orane (talk) 01:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh it isn't "my" box. :) . "My" box was the beautiful/simple Guitarist Infobox (since removed). The Guitarist Project reluctantly voted to delete our infobox in favour of the Musician Project box after they agreed to included the instrument field (which, like all of the others, get abused). We agreed with the format as it was as long as it wasn't chenged without our project being consulted. (again more towards the field we requested) I personally do not like the voice_type field. It believe the history of that one goes to the Opera WikiProject. So, even though I do not line it, I respect that wish to have it there. I also do not like the origin field as it is never used properly. It should be a "band only" field. One fundamental field that is strangely missing is a "birthplace" field. Which means 'birthplace' has to be added as a coded break entry into the birth date field.(which as mentioned earlier, is rarely done properly) I also have had a major dislike of the colour choices right from the get-go. The coloured background field was the main reason the Guitarist Project created its own box in the first place. Oh well, we live with what we live with. The battle ground over the colours in that field was so fierce that I hope it never gets revisited (even though I don't like them) just because the battle caused a lot of wheel spinning and was a road block to productivity where music related articles were concerned. Consensus within the Song and Album projects seems to come so easy. But within the Musician Project... the battle field never seem to go away. But productive debate is good. And, in the end, Misplaced Pages will be better someday. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

My comments to you were not meant to extract a violation of WP:CIVIL or WP:NPA from you. I was only trying to assist you where you were making an error. I can see you are dedicated to trying to improve Misplaced Pages. But your passion for your opinion and your rejection of a consensus by a very busy WikiProject is not worth being de-sysop'd over. When I receive barnstars or push article to featured status it is not with the intention of making "WIkipedia fall to pieces". I do not see where you think that is what I am doing and am confused by the attack. I would think, as I near 30000 edits, that my dedication here wouldn't be questioned. I have been asked to allow my name to stand for RfA at least 20 times since I started here. And receive at least one email a week asking me to take on the mop. But I have rejected this honour in favour of doing what I do best... simply editing based on policy, community and consensus. I know the responsibility you have taken on by accepting the toolbox. And I sincerely hope that, though proper channels withing the Musician Project that you proposal may be accepted someday. But I just wish that in the future you are a bit more polite with me when I try to help. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
See, this is what I'm talking about. You may have intended to be "civil" and "helpful", but I found your message deeply condescending. You state how you "corrected" my edits, call my edit(s) "contradictory", "blatant false" and practically ordered me to delete it immediately without a second thought, and now state that I may be de-sysop'd, and you expect me to be cheery? I did not attack you. I stated that people's obsession with "consensus", even when that consensus contradicts authoritative sources (a big no-no on Misplaced Pages) is a major problem within Misplaced Pages. I did not intend to say you deliberately ruin the project. Orane (talk) 02:20, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I can AGF that your remarks about making Misplaced Pages fall to pieces were not directed at me personally. I would also like to note, after seeing you refer to the WikiProject Musicians as "my" project... I am not a member of that project. Never have been. Never will be. But I am the driving wedge for the Guitarist Project whose tagged articles cross over many of the the articles marked by the Musician Project. Since the musician Infobox is shared by numerous music projects (except the composer project who flatly rejected the entire box and do not use it) proper protocol should be that whenever a proposed change to the box is introduced an alert should be placed on on the Project "siblings" so that all can take part. Unfortunatel this doesn't happen often so each project has members who "hawk" the Musician project so that nothing slips through the cracks. We all work towards the better "wiki-good". But the communication lines could always be improved. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Just to further comment I would like to note, after seeing you refer to the WikiProject Musicians as "my" project several times... I am not a member of that project. Never have been. Never will be. But I am the driving wedge for the Guitarist Project whose tagged articles cross over many of the the articles marked by the Musician Project. Since the musician Infobox is shared by numerous music projects (except the composer project who flatly rejected the entire box and do not use it) proper protocol should be that whenever a proposed change to the box is introduced an alert should be placed on on the Project "siblings" so that all can take part. Unfortunatly this doesn't happen often so each project has members who "hawk" the Musician project so that nothing slips through the cracks. We all work towards the better "wiki-good". But the communication lines could always be improved. Even ours :). I see your dedication to the Misplaced Pages Project. Hopefully you see mine a little better too. I do hope we can find a common ground and perhaps we can work together on a Featured Article someday. I've done several. But I haven't pushed an FA is quite a while. I am overdue for one. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for the incorrect assumption. I automatically assumed this because you were the first to always contact me whenever there was concern over my actions. To tell the truth, I automatically assumed that you were an Admin. I agree with the breakdown in communication across the various projects, and hopefully that can be fixed soon. Congrats on your FA's. I've only written one, a few years ago (can't find the time nor energy to do more), which has gone to hell and back a few times. It may need updating now, but I'm too lazy. Would be willing to work with you, if time permits. Orane (talk) 02:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I have over 5000 pages on my watchlist. I am sure we will cross paths on an article of mutual interest someday. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm Here To Help

Hey mate, seen a lot of reversions out of you, which is great. But I happen to be a Ba:Lit grad and I was wondering if there were any projects you would like a little bit of wordy work on. Get back to me.

What is your edit interest. Lots of guitarist stubs need expansion. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 10:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm a drummer myself, but I like practicing my critical writing so anything is fine.InterislanderTom (talk) 02:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Apology

I accidentally left you a vandalism warning after failing to pay attention to the revert order. Thedarxide (talk) 16:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I have deleted and removed the Huggle warning so you don't get accidentally blocked. Scarian 16:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message, I'm a bassist/guitarist/drummer (spit! :P), I'll check the project out. Thedarxide (talk) 18:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. Let me know if you have any questions. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi there

Really nice to get your welcome note. Hope you can check out some articles I'm working on and give feedback. What can I do to help? Black Stripe (talk) 13:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. I will look at your articles. Let me know if you have any questions. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

John Frusciante

You must be mistaken. I don't know who Spike Wilbury is, but it was Grim-Gym and I who brought John Frusciante to Featured Status. Not this "Spike Wilbury". I am actually rather offended. It was Grim-Gym and I alone. Please get your facts straight. Second of all, I know every single thing about Frusciante. Everything. Therefore, I can tell you better than anyone else, that he's obviously a notable guitar player. The tabs in the infobox are not mandatory and adding "guitar" would not help anyone realize he's a guitarist. NSR77 C 03:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the above comment. Haha. I read your first reply without finishing. It got me a little miffed. My apologies. Anyway, I take photographs for magazines sometimes as a side job and someone I met from a photo shoot was selling their original Strat so I bought it from them. I got the Jag in a somewhat similar situation. That's really cool that you also have a 62 Strat. I love vintage guitars. The sound that comes from them just reeks of the wisdom things are only granted with the passing of time. NSR77 C 03:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually, all the fields should be filled in where possible. Hopefully not over-killed. Would you mind if it was put to a discussion on the talk page. It was granted FA status with the field filled ion so it shouldn't be too offensive to anyone. It should be a consensus decision and not just one/two people calling the rules. That's a WP:OWN vio. I have owned several elderly Jags along the way. I don't have any in the boneyard right now though. I am currently on a quest for the perfect Tele. I already own 3. The oldest, a 68, is not bad but there is something missing that I just can't nail on it. The other 2 are both around the same vintage. One of them is heavily modified and is one of my main studio guitars. But I use it for mellow Jazz tones (the mods) and it does not snap and twang like a Tele should. The other 2 come close. But not quite. I will keep looking. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 04:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:GUITAR invitation

Yeah, I'll join. Guitar is one of my main hobbies after all.

Thanks!

NeedNotGreed | T | C 22:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

British English on Led Zeppelin

These edit wars over the use of singular or plural verbs in the Led Zeppelin article are not getting us to the point, which is producing a stellar article about a very important group. I have commented in a measured tone with an attempt to explain the situation to my American compatriots. However, I feel some further action is necessary. My suggestion is to place a disclaimer at the top of the page explaining the use of British English. It may even warrant addition to the Led Zeppelin talk page template, perhaps a separate div box with a Union Jack and some bold text. The text might actually use the comment "Please do not change this to "were", it will be reverted back quickly. Misplaced Pages is an American Website, so none of that English Proper Garbage on here." made by our Texan friend 99.160.8.134 against him. For example, "en.wikipedia.org is the English Language version of Misplaced Pages. It is not an American website", etc. The wording can be discussed and agreed to over on the project page.

I would like to know more about this situation in general. I have looked around a little but haven't found anything other than the statement on the WP:Led Zeppelin page. If you know of any official stance regarding which form of English is to be used in which articles, please explain it or point me to it. This is unquestionably a tough issue to deal with - AI hasn't advanced enough to allow for robots that routinely repair misplaced subject-verb agreements in these cases. Sswonk (talk) 17:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Greetings

You've been a busy lad, haven't you? What's the news? --Spike Wilbury talk 17:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply on your page. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 20:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Rich Robinson image

Hey, I'm flattered that you like the image of Rich that I contributed, but I think it is worth it to drop the old image into the spot currently occupied by the dupe of the Newport photo. Cheers, DickClarkMises (talk) 02:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

AC/DC album

Hey there, I don't know if you've already noticed, but the article on the new AC/DC album is up for deletion. I'm against the deletion - I don't know if you are or not, but if you're against, have your say here here. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

But no one ever said that Saint Anger sounded like Slayer. St. Anger was just very poorly produced, mixed, and written. I think if it was more refined, it has the outlines of what could be considered speed metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgardner1123 (talkcontribs) 01:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Rock music WikiProject

I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed Rock music WikiProject. There's alot of Rock-related articles on Misplaced Pages that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Rock music pages into the front ranks of Misplaced Pages articles. Thanks! --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 09:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk instead of trying to block me okay

Those two projects didn't look active for me okay, sorry, i thought i was doing the best for the project okay sorry, wont happen again. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 21:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to block you. But your actions were not those of a person who honours the community. They were the actions of an asshole. Sorry to be blunt. But re-directing those two project was one of the most ignorant moves I've seen on here in awhile. I was a full-time session musician and touring sidesman from 1968 to 1986. Mostly in the Rock genre. I switched careers in 1986 but still do movie/TV/commercial session part-time. I would love to take part in the Rock Project as my years of experience and my long commitment to Misplaced Pages could help the project move forward. But not if its mandate is to ignore/usurp other established projects. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Your probably right but. Why i did it was to give the project a better infrastructure like i did on the QotSA taskforce. But its not that importent anyway. Oh and good you became a member of the wikiproject. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 09:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

The Sweet

Quit taking metal out or ill report your for vandalismZakkman (talk) 13:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Your re-direct is being questioned

Here Thanks for doing it BTW. It was overdue. Libs (talk) 00:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Gibson Les Paul Studio

Hey, I just wanted to drop you a line letting you know that I did some cleanup to Gibson Les Paul Studio and managed to get it promoted from "stub" to "c class". I have kind of found my calling as a copyeditor on wikipedia and would be happy to copyedit some more Guitar-equipment related articles if you would be kind enough to point me towards a few in need. Thanks. Washburnmav (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

It's probably higher than a C class, I figured it was *minimum* C, so re-class as necessary. –xeno (talk) 23:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Meshuggah

Good day! Can you please tell me where does WP:RS say that sources such as this one are not reliable?--  LYKANTROP  02:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Key word = blog. Linking to an blog written by a nobody does not constitute a reliable source. It's an sps. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, but WP:SPS says also "Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." That material on MetalKult is produced by "a senior editor at Guitar World magazine. His writing has also appeared in the pages of Revolver, Alternative Press, Bass Guitar, CMJ Monthly, as well as on PaperThinWalls.com" . Except for that, the amount and the momentousness of the information that has been take from the website is absolutely minimal - it is only two terms: technical metal and death-tech which are both mentioned once in the Meshuggah article - in a list of more than 10 genres. Nothing more. Therefore I think that the source is acceptable. --  LYKANTROP  10:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Lonnie Mack

Just finished copyediting Lonnie Mack.Feel free to give feedback on my edits. I did some heavy reorganization and added tables to awards and the discography. I also did quite a bit of grammar/ redundancy corrections. Washburnmav (talk) 18:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I think this article should be considered for a much higher rank as well. I don't want to promote it myself due to COI but I think it could be B class or higher at this point. Washburnmav (talk) 18:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Lonnie Mack

Thanks for all your efforts and advice. I really appreciate them. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 22:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Clapton

"It was rude of me to speak about the guitarist project and not ask if you are a guitar player yourself"

Not rude in the least. I appreciate both of your messages. No, I am not a guitarist, just a regular guy who loves what Clapton can do with one. Ward3001 (talk) 01:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Awards Box Inclusion - Music

Can you provide a reason for resisting the inclusion of awards in the Music Box? Is there a compelling reason why it should be singled out when so many other boxes have it? Examples provided on the talk page. --FilmFan69 (talk) 03:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Which awards are notable enough for inclusion? Fanzine polls? Magazine "hall of fame" inclusions. The infobox is already over-populated with fields that 99% of Misplaced Pages editors have no idea how to populate correctly. Adding another will just mean more janitorial work. It's a discussion that's been beaten to death already many times over. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Eric Clapton Copyedit

 Done

Should definitely be considered for GA and after some reference adding, FA. Washburnmav (talk) 23:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Second Opinion

Hey Anger, would you mind offering a second opinion on the Eric Clapton discussion here? Thanks. Washburnmav (talk) 05:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Adrenalize revert

Hey there. Could you point me towards the relevant rules/guidelines that led you to revert my editing the forms of participation in Adrenalize? Thanks. —Zeagler (talk) 23:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Relevant links on how to avoid lowering Misplaced Pages into a cheap, poorly written project can be found at WP:CRUFT. The album cleanup falls under several policies and guidelines, beside avoiding WP:CRUFT. WP:NOT, WP:MOS specifically WP:TONE, WP:NEO etc. Aim for "encyclopedia" is the best motto. Not some poorly written amateur fansite. Too many Misplaced Pages music articles are already that way. The album project guidelines for correct formatting do not include the words "match the source album wording" anywhere. The guideline there is; clear direct links that do not duplicate anywhere else in the article. Hope that helps. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 23:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply.
– From WP:CRUFT: "It is true that things labeled fancruft are often deleted from Misplaced Pages. This is primarily due to the fact that things labeled as fancruft are often...non-neutral and contain original research, the latter two of which are valid reasons for deletion." I don't see how "the voice" and "skins" meet either criterion, seeing as how they're taken straight from the booklet. Changing them to what we think they mean would be original research, however. Granted, it's not really a leap to change them to "vocals" and "drums"...that's why they were wikilinked that way.
– I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for in WP:NOT and WP:MOS. Could you be more specific?
WP:TONE relates to the prose, and doesn't apply here.
WP:NEO seems to apply to the prose, as well. (We wouldn't change a song title that contains a neologism.) It's not a problem here because the info has a reference. If anything, WP:NEO is only arguing against my piped links.
WP:ALBUM doesn't include the words "simplify forms of participation to the most common terms", either. Nor does it say "clear direct links that do not duplicate anywhere else in the article", for that matter.
– Check Freak Out! for an example of a featured article with credits that report some odd terms the artist saw fit to print. —Zeagler (talk) 00:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Starcaster

OK, I see your point. We'll just have to wait until we get a free image for an original. Black Kite 00:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought - could you look at some of the free images of guitarists known to play the Starcaster (i.e. Image:Radiohead-Jonny.jpg) in case there's a decent free image of one there? Black Kite 00:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Black Kite 00:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

My Edit

On August 8 2008 you removed the external link to my Charvel site, www.charvels.com.

Any particular reason?


SW Shawn@charvels.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.217.9 (talk) 03:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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RE: Userpage and stuff

Hey there dude! Yeah, I'd be happy to try out something on your userpage. It'd probably end up looking similar to mine because I've forgotten almost everything I learned before so would just have to mash my design together and hope it looks ok here. Or I could hunt down something new and exciting. But whatever the means, I could probably help you out, provided, that is, I have enough time... last year of highschool is a biznatch. Hope you're doing well old friend, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 01:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Battle of the Bulge FAR opened

Hey, you apparently have 33 edits in the Battle of the Bulge article, which has just been placed through a featured article review. Your input, if any, would be quite welcomed! Thank you. JonCatalán 20:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Rock music Newsletter for October 2008

The Rock music WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 9 - October 2008
"As long as my face is on page one, I don't care what they say about me on page seventeen."- Mick Jagger
Project news
  • The project has a total of 106 GAs and 91 Featured Articles and Lists put together.
  • We collaborated on Soul Bomb.
  • Help us select good versions of WP:ROCK articles for inclusion on the Misplaced Pages 0.7 release! Find out more about Misplaced Pages 0.7 selection on the project talk page and add your thoughts to the discussion. If you are personally responsible for a Featured or Good Article listed here, please the select a version to include in Misplaced Pages 0.7 on that page if you haven't already. Page versions must be selected by October 20.
  • The genres in infobox fields have been removed cause of the discussion found here Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Music#Time to remove genre section on info box?. You can provide any opinions you may have about this.
  • This month's "Recommended Rock Album" is Soundgarden - Superunknown (1994).

Editors

User:Be Black Hole Sun

Be Black Hole Sun (talk · contribs)

Hey!!

Hey!! What sights are ya seeing? This better be a metalhead pilgrimage. :P Sorry about not getting to your userpage, by the way, pretty busy final year of high school... I'll work on it though! :) Hope all is well, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Nice! I hope that quest goes well, and you better send me a picture. I'm saving up for this beauty. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 02:03, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and not that I'll be able to get this any time soon (it costs $3000 Canadian dollars), but how. Sexy. Is. That. Gray black, too. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 02:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:Task force

That would probably be a good idea. I'm not sure how to do it though. Izzy007 Talk 17:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Remove 'Notable player' list from Hybrid Picking article?

Thanks for all your excellent guitar-related work. I've been watching Hybrid picking, and I propose removal of the 'Notable' list from that article and maybe moving it to a separate article. See other guitar-related 'Notable' lists like Telecaster players for (equally troublesome) examples. The list at Hybrid Picking is a magnet for repetitive fan-posts (Zakk Wylde, for example), has taken on a life of its own and is about to overshadow the main article, which is about the hybrid picking technique rather than the players. We can certainly expand the article to include notable proponents in context. Full disclosure: I added James Burton and Clarence White to the list a while back. Mea culpa. See related discussion at Talk:Fingerstyle guitar#Let's just delete the list of fingerstyle players, and that list was indeed deleted for the same reasons. Thanks again and best regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 16:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I support removing POV opinion lists from all articles like this one. The guitarist project has actually discussed this before. Several "List of" articles wre created from those talks. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 17:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback, I found the old thread on Guitarist project, and have posted a proposal on the Hybrid picking talk page. Regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 07:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Alan Banks Deletion

Hello. I would like to protest the Alan Banks deletion as he meets the standards listed below:

  1. It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.

Multiple interviews and write-ups in Classical Guitar Magazine. Classical Guitar Magazine is the central information source for news in the Classical Guitar genre. It is published and read internationally.

  1. Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.

He has made many radio and TV appearances both in Australia and overseas including live broadcasts and recordings with ABC FM and recordings for BBC Radio 3, the UK’s premiere classical music station. His 2003 recording of Peter Scullthorpe’s “Nourlangie”, with the Ulster Orchestra, is repeatedly showcased on BBC radio 3. Scullthorpe is one of the most esteemed composers in Australia.

Ireland’s Frank Lyons and Australian Richard Charlton have written new works for Alan Banks. Lastly, he is a well known guitarist within the classical scene. That must count for something. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.185.29.99 (talk) 23:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Buckethead task force?

Hi there! I'm trying to install a task force under the Guitarists Project. Would you like to join? --HexaChord (talk) 21:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Spider-Man

Hello. :) Since you have been involved in editing the article Spider-Man, I wanted to let you know that we have nominated the article for "Good Article" status. You can view the review page, and if there is anything you can do to make the article better, please do so. :) There are a number of concerns to be addressed and some work to be done, so pitch in if you are able, make any suggestions that you think might be helpful, or at least just be there for moral support. :) BOZ (talk) 01:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

pink floyd far

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This is a dynamic IP address... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.136.10 (talk) 17:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Invitation

I took a stab at composing an invitation template based on one of your messages you left for someone last year. It can be added by typing: {{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Guitarists/Outreach/Invitation|~~~~}}. Feel free to edit. As I'm looking through all of our project pages, a lot of updating and editing is needed. I'd like to clean out some old stuff we never used anyway (what is the "Buckethead task force"?) and update some things to modern wikicode. --Spike Wilbury talk 03:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks. Now if I catch anyone " pickin' " on guitarist articles I can invite them to join. Cheers and have a nice day. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Go Johnny Go

I ordered a few books about Chuck Berry. I want to see if I can make it a Featured Article. I'd like to see if we can really work on getting the article of influential guitarists up to a respectable standard. --Spike Wilbury talk 03:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks for the tip on the extra materials. I have two books so far, Brown Eyed Handsome Man by Bruce Pegg and Chuck Berry: The Autobiography. He apparently wrote this book himself without the use of a ghostwriter, which is quite some accomplishment. We of course have to be very selective about using material from the autobiography. I agree that the main focus should be on his music, with a much smaller personal life section. --Spike Wilbury (talk) 05:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'll take a look at the Page article. As long as WP exists, I suppose we will have this kind of thing happening. I've come to believe that guitarist articles are among the most contentious articles out there, because people feel so deeply about their musical heroes. It's nothing compared to editing religious or nationalistic articles, I suppose! I just created a stub on Bruce Gaitsch. I couldn't believe we didn't have an article on such a long-time and important session player and composer. We had an amusing exchange when I emailed asking for a photo, where he explained how the popular media doesn't care about session musicians. How right he is. Anyway, thanks for the help on Berry. Some of these old rock and blues players get neglected here. I'm going to take a trip to the library to see if they can dig up any old magazine and news articles. --Spike Wilbury (talk) 03:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pink Floyd/GA1

Hi Anger22. Pink Floyd has been nominated for GA status. As you are a significant contributor you may wish to take part. Regards SilkTork * 13:50, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


Deletion review for Jealousy Curve

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Unreferenced BLPs

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I had forgot about creating that article? I travel extensively for work and my time on Misplaced Pages has been very sporadic. If I have time I will review the page at a later date. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom GA review

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My edit count with regards to this article is insignificant as most of my edits were reversions of vandalism. I am not sure what input I could provide that would be helpful. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 19:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

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Good day, friend

Nice to hear from you, and glad to hear you were able to get the "plumbing" cleared up without too much trouble. I (clearly) haven't been very active in the project - a lot going on in my world. I've been obsessing a bit lately about building a respectable home studio; I've splurged on some Mackie gear, experimented with a few different software solutions and finally settled on an app called Mixcraft. It's decent for my purposes and under $100. Nowhere near the bloatware that is Cakewalk or other major players. Take care! --Spike Wilbury (talk) 19:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Paul McCartney FAC

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Revolutions of 1989 online Misplaced Pages challenge

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Request input

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