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== Sources == |
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==Discussion now archived== |
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Previous discussion has now archived as page grew beyond guideline size, see ]. |
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*a) Would contributors please follow WIkipedia convention and always place new discussion points at the bottom of page. Use the + sign above if in doubt. |
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*b) Would new contributors please learn a little bit about Wiki formatting, signing and dating your contributions. Failure to do so makes it very hard for other to follow or to fulfil admin tasks. See, ] and especially, ]. If you are having difficulties, go find an admin to help you and have a play in the ] first. |
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*c) NPA tags belong on user's pages not discussion pages. |
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Thank you. ] 01:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Long-time Wikipedian on NPOV== |
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I am in no way connected to BKWSU, either pro or con, and I have no interest in changing that. I ''am'' a long-time Wikipedian, and an admin, and I want this page to move toward an acceptable encyclopedia article. The reasons for the NPOV and other tags must be delineated, no matter how blindingly obvious someone might think the reasons are. Those issues must then be addressed, either by proper citations, or by removing unsubstantiated claims from the article. The real-world identity or beliefs of ''any'' of the contributors to this article are completely irrelevant. This discussion/talk page is '''not''' the appropriate place to discuss those questions. '''Use this page to discuss the encyclopedia article only.''' –]]– 01:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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: Thank you for the voice of reason, at last! ] 01:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::I have restored the POV tag to the article. Do not remove it until things have been resolved. The other tags may also be restored if specific reasons are shown--but in general, one tag at a time seems sufficient. –]]– 02:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::RHolton, thanks for dropping by and I really appreciate you restoring the NPOV tag. It’s a small step towards fairness. |
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:::] 03:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== NPOVs for Discussion == |
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=== No === |
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* Anything published by {{tq|brahmakumaris.org}} or {{tq|Om Mandali, Pharmacy Printing Press}} or {{tq|B.K. Raja Yoga Center for the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University}} ought to be treated as flatly unreliable. |
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OK. NPOVs for Discussions. One at a time. No more personal attacks. No more crapflood. No more discussing the discussion. If you use three equal signs before and after a topic, like this "<nowiki>===Topic===</nowiki>", we can create a manageable sub-list of points to discuss. My suggestion is that we work to create the list first, have a little cooling off period, order them according to the article and then discuss them. New issues arising can be discussed in new headlines. Alternatively, we can work our way down the page paragraph by paragraph. |
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* ], again, ought to be treated as flatly unreliable. She had no academic expertise whatsoever and as far as I remember, what prompted her very-apolegetic portrayal of the movement was her husband veering away with the BKs into celibacy. |
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=== Meh === |
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I would like to raise the the issue of membership, financial status and charitable giving, perhaps the later the UN relationship. I hope that BKs will come forward with the pre-requisite figures. ] 03:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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* Encyclopedia entries —— be it the Routledge Encyclopedia of New Religious Movements ''or'' else — ought to be sparingly used. |
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Please add your NPOV points below ; |
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* Whaling's ''Understanding the Brahma Kumaris'' (Dunedin University Press; 2012) is a primer aimed at undergraduates. A merrily sympathetic treatment, in what is one of the two academic monographs on the subject, it is . |
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* ] and Tomlinson are anthropologists by training; the latter, particularly of practiced religion. So, I have not much qualms with using ''Brahma Kumaris: Purity and the Globalization of Faith'' (Springer; 2012) but we ought not depend on it for reconstructing the curious history of Brahmakumaris (BK). |
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* ]'s thesis from Monash University. |
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=== Yes === |
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===Financial status and charitable giving=== |
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* Publications by John Walliss, esp. ''The Brahma Kumaris as a Reflexive Tradition: Responding to Late Modernity'' (Motilal Banarsidass; 2007). |
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===Membership figures=== |
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* Prem Chowdhury's masterly ''Marriage, Sexuality and the Female 'Ascetic': Understanding a Hindu Sect'' (EPW; 1996). |
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* Publications by Lawrence A. Babb. |
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* Ramsay's article in ''Handbook of Hinduism in Europe''. |
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