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{{Press |subject=Freddie Mercury |author=Jack Coyleap |title=Review: 'Bohemian Rhapsody' won't rock you, but Malek will |org=NWITimes |url=https://www.nwitimes.com/entertainment/music/review-bohemian-rhapsody-won-t-rock-you-but-malek-will/article_7dc9b497-3e58-5cec-b7ed-7e1a213a511f.html |date=October 29, 2018 |quote=Everything in '']'' happens less with the thrust of life than the rapid-fire recounting of a biographical history, '''sometimes rigorously in step with Misplaced Pages''', sometimes taking shortcuts to avoid anything that strays outside a neatly contrived narrative. |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20181030141636/https://www.nwitimes.com/entertainment/music/review-bohemian-rhapsody-won-t-rock-you-but-malek-will/article_7dc9b497-3e58-5cec-b7ed-7e1a213a511f.html |archivedate=2018-10-29 |accessdate=2018-10-29}} |
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==Lyric Tenor== |
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It does not appear to me that there is enough documentation to say that Freddie Mercury was a "lyric tenor." Although I do not doubt this fact, it is not good enough to simply cite a personal web page. After all, it could just be the webmaster's opinion that Mercury was a lyric tenor. In order to really prove this fact, you need some kind of external citation from a published article. On the other hand, I think that the web page does a good job at documenting vocal range. Because you are not going to find an official article that documents vocal range, I think that this personal web page is sufficient to establish an objective fact like vocal range, but not a more subjective matter like vocal weight.{{unsigned|67.190.44.85}} |
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:You can hear what his voice was like by listening to some Queen records!--] 15:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::However, as he says, not everyone is educated enough to define what vocal wieght Freddie was. We need a source from some site or book whose author has the education to make such a claim... ] 20:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Better Picture! == |
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Oh my God! That is one God-awful picture of Mercury. It dosen't look like him at all! It really needs to be changed into either a picture of him from the early years (long hair and make-up) or even better him performing in a concert because that is what he's most famous for! Would someone who knows how to change the picture please do so.{{unsigned|195.41.29.111}} |
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:The picture is very appropriate for a biography.--] 00:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::That picture is really depressing looking! Why not get one during a concert. It is alsocame from a time when he had been diagnosed with AIDS. Why not get a healthy picture? ] 01:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:::A live photo is not appropriate for the main photo. It should be a promotional photo, preferably a head shot.--] 01:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:: --] 21:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:::That's a good picture, the reason I didn't use that one is because nowadays every picture of Freddie is from the era, I felt the photo there now shows off his profile well. Also it was used as the cover for one of his biographies.--] 05:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC) |
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What do you MEAN? I find him all sorts of handsome in the current photo. It's also one of the few where he looks somewhat ethnic. Actually, I find the suggested photo above to be extremely unflattering. But meh, meh, meh. ] |
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Guys, the sickly picture needs to be replaced. As a woman, I can assure you that Freddie Mercury was very hot. This is evident from the photo that is up there at the moment. ] 01:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:The photo you placed in the article has been deleted before.— ] - ] - 01:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::Well, it is too bad that you deleted it, since it was pretty damn hot. The one up there now is pretty familar though, even to people who are not into Queen. ] 04:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:::i didn't delete it.— ] - ] - 09:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Seriously, whoever deleted the former picture should hang his head in shame. The new one is the worst I have ever seen of Freddie. Someone get the former one back, please.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small> |
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:::::The picture that is up there, is, in my opinion, the best looking picture of him... However, this is not the picture he was known by. He was known by the short hair, and the moustache. I believe that we need a picture with short hair and the moustache. ] 01:29, 6 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::Yes, I think I would agree that he was more know with the moustache, though many should recognize him from bohemian rhapsody video. But why aren't there a few pictures of him thru the aritcle, showing various periods? I also agree that the current photo is a good one of him, maybe just add later a live photo from the 80s, covering live and moustache...] 22:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::::What about this one from 1987?; http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/510/fredchairnw9.jpg . At the Freddie Mercury Photographic Exhibition, it's labelled as "Freddie's favourite photo of himself". So not only was it a favourite of Mercury, but it is a highly recognisable picture, what with the moustache and the cheeky grin. ] 15:11, 8 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::I have added three photos showing his appearance in 1974, 1985, and 1990.— ] - ] - 16:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::::::Having just watched the Live Aid DVD performance, I don't think the current 1985 photo is from Live Aid.--] 01:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::::The Live Aid logo is in the background.— ] - ] - 12:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::::::::The picture is not from Queen's 20 minute Live Aid set (Bohemian Rhapsody, Radio Ga Ga, Crowd Participation, Hammer To Fall, We Will Rock You, We Are The Champions), but rather from later in the show, when just Freddie Mercury and Brian May returned and performed Is This The World We Created.—] 13:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::::::My mistake. Thanks! --] 20:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== ancestry == |
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I found this great article about Freddie's ancestry: http://www.queenarchives.com/viewtopic.php?t=137 -- ] 03:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:: That was a great read, however it was full of speculations.] 08:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC) |
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regardless of he gave himself as label, it does not change fact. he was not iranian, so that label does not belong there. he never spoke persian nor did his parents. we can include, however, that he called himself persian. we cant say that thats what he was, but we can say that's what he liked. ] 19:02, 27 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::: What do you mean we can't say he was Persian. Beside himself saying it, there are thousands of articles, books and biographies that say he was Persian. ] 22:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Many people of partial Indian ancestry in the west, particularly in Britain (], ]) tried to conceal it as it was seen as an indicator of lower class, so it's understandable that he may have wanted to identify as Persian. It has been documented that he was ethnically ]. Parsis are related to but not synonymous with Persians (our distingushing attributes are Persian relative to the Indian norm, but Indian relative to the Persian norm!). I am not really one to get into a debate over this but this article seems to make it seem like any person of Persian descent living in India is considered a Parsi, which is simply not the case. ] 02:19, 17 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==No need to put real name in intro== |
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The purpose of the intro. is to give a brief introduction. There is no need to put Freddie Mercury's real name there. Basically, the opening paragraph should be a quick explanation (that a non-Queen fan could understand) of why he was famous and why anyone should care about the rest of the article. There is also no need to list every obscure band that he was ever in. The point of an encyclopedia article is to be concise, and I do not see why this belongs in a box that should only contain important things. ] 01:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC) |
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I agree that perhaps it does not need to be in the intro, but it should be in the article. I put it in the "Early Life" section - since that is when he was known by that name, that seems like the most appropriate place for it. ] 06:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==Thanks for the new photos== |
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Hi, Mike. Thanks for putting up the new photos. I think that we can re-submit the article as a "good article" now. ] 02:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
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I've just found this: |
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freddy was gay he always was. And i hate gay people. If you have any problems with thisw call |
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under "singer and performer". I tried to take it out, but I can't see it on the 'edit this page' tab. Could someone please sort this out? What a fucking retard this person is. |
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:That's because ] removed it while you were looking for it. Thank you for your attention to the article. <font color="DarkGray">...</font> ] <sub>]</sub> 01:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==who took "Persian Rock star" out?== |
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I reinserted this part into the article as their are many (especially Iranian) fans who consider him Persian based on his Parsi roots and on his own statements. There was a big edit war over this, and I want to avoid that and bring back more focus on the other parts of the article. BTW, nice job on these additional pictures. Now, if we could just lengthen the introductory paragraph a bit, and provide some more details in with regards to different aspects of his life and musical legacy, we can certainly bring this to a featured article status like that of Phil Collins. ] 15:14, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:: I agree who took it off? ] |
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Its back on. Hopefully thats done with. Personally, I dont think he should be labelled ], as Parsis are no longer really Iranian. I also think literally calling him Persian (despite whatever he said) just confuses people with regards to his heritage, as most people mean Iranians when they say someone is Persian. I originally wanted him to be labelled as just an ] ] with a quick note in the legacy background that he identified himself as a ] rather than Parsi or Indian. Also, about these thousands of books and journals that call him "Persian", from what I read, most books called him Parsi Indian. I dont know what some people mean when they say thousands of biographies and books call him Persian. From what I read, they all call him Indian. The VH1 documentary on him also refers to him neither as Persian nor Indian, but simply Parsi. The only sources I can think of are his fan website bios and amateur sketches by others based on information in the original fan club bio. Nevertheless, he did call himself Persian (perhaps more in the regard Parsis generally do, rather than as an actual Iranian) and many Iranian fans like to identify him as such, so I guess this is the best. ] 16:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC) |
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=Website?= |
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Under what basis is that website put in Freddie's infobox? I don't think any website could be regarded as official for someone that died 15 years ago. ] 21:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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indeed, especially since that is a site to promote a book and a cd-dvd collection. I think he could have a sort of a official site in terms of a queen related thing... but this isn't really about him... I think it should be deleted ] 17:59, 15 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Baritone? == |
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It seems to me that even though Freddy Mercury naturally fell in the Baritone speaking range he was not really a baritone, but a tenor. In the songs where he sings confortably he is always in the tenor range, never in the baritone range, which would absolutely mean he is a tenor, if he wasn't most of Queen's songs, especially the slower ones would have been composed for a baritone voice. Not because he has a baritone speaking voice does it mean he is a baritone, there are many people with deep voices who are in fact tenors and vice-versa. Perhaps she should consider changing that section of the webpage into saying that "...even though his speaking voice naturally fell in the baritone range, his singing voice was that of a tenor..." |
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:Do you have enough experiance to say this with knowledge? We had a discussionn ealier (not sure if it is on this page or one of the archives) and we decided that we needed someone who had expertise that could "weigh" his voice. I know I can't tell the difference, so I cannot make any call, educated or not... ] 01:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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=Magazine Article= |
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Hello. Listen, I was going through some outdated Cat Fancy magazines, and I noticed there was an article dedicated to Freddie Mercury. It talked mostly about his love for his cats and how they impacted his life. There was even explanations about some of his songs that were about his cats, such as ''Delilah'' and ''Mr. Bad Guy''. I don't know if it'll be useful, and if it is, I wouldn't know what section to type it under. And I don't know if it's already been added, too. But I have searched through almost everything, and I haven't found it. |
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So if it's not too much trouble, I'd like to know if I could put up this part. ¡Gracias! ] 02:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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I think that this might belong under "Personal Life," so put it up there!] 04:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC) |
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So I can put it up? ¡Muchas Gracias! er.. Thank you. I'll get to work right away. ] 01:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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I have added that part in. I hope it can be useful. I'm glad to help.¡Adios! ] 01:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Thanks for adding the new information. It is interesting, and I think that it tells a lot about Freddie. I edited it some to make it shorter, but I think that it is the best addition that I have seen in months. Puedes anadir mas informacion, si quieres. ] 04:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Death Quote== |
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There is a quote, under the header Death, and I was wondering, do we have a source for that? ] 01:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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: it shouldn't be hard to find. I saw his statement a few times... ] 14:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Cat Page== |
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OK, guys. The cat stuff is interesting, but if you want to work on editing, do not change the article back unless it also includes the new Mike Myers quote and the removal of the word "legendary" from the "Early Life" section. I personally feel that the current paragraph is more concise and that you should make edits from there. Maybe we should have a vote on it.] 01:37, 14 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Needs Copyedit == |
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This article doesn't deserve the rating it's received. The content is good but the grammar and language use need going over. |
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Honestly, ], what is it going to take to get you to stop editing the article one sentence at a time? You revert a quote from "Queen: In their own words" which is a very telling statement from Freddie about Freddie. A simple search would have found a source. ] 02:10, 14 October 2006 (UTC) |
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The article needs a copyedit tag. Surely this will upset all the Mercury fans but the best way to get through a crisis like that is to fix the article. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:18, 23 March 2012</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> |
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Dude, If you want to add a quote, then it is your job to find the source, not mine.] 02:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC) |
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The quote's been there for a while. If you have an issue with an existing item in an article, put a <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> tag on it or something similar. Don't simply delete it. And learn to edit in larger chunks. Thanks. ] 03:08, 14 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Freddy's daughter == |
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There is a rumour circulating that Freddy fathered a daughter, but upon checking the validity of this claim through online searches, it seems that it's either a very well kept secret or a falsehood... Does anyone have any thoughts or proof about his potential parentage despite his sexual orientation? ] (]) 20:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC) |
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OK, now your quote is back up there, in addition to the youtube interview that I put up. We will just keep them both there. If you happen to have a source for the number of key signatures used in "Bicycle Race," that would be great too.] 04:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:If there were any reliable sources showing that he had a child, they would surely be in this article. <span style="color:DarkGray">...</span> ] <sub>]</sub> 23:09, 4 November 2024 (UTC) |
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==No need to post "B-class article" designation== |
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Guys, there is no need to post the B-class article designation. After all, is there any reason for why we should take this seriously? Since we have yet to receive any feedback or explanations, I would say that this "expert" opinion is pretty useless. Furthermore, I compared this article with others that were rated as "B-class." Do you know what I found? I discovered that most of these articles were utter crap. In other words, the "reviewer" simply does not like Freddie Mercury. And who is this person? Among other things, I would venture to say that he probably does not even have a real job (unlike me, since I am a chemist). I would assume that you all have real jobs as well, so why is his opinion more worthy than ours?] 05:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC) |
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This article doesn't deserve the rating it's received. The content is good but the grammar and language use need going over.
The article needs a copyedit tag. Surely this will upset all the Mercury fans but the best way to get through a crisis like that is to fix the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.251.103.76 (talk) 04:18, 23 March 2012
There is a rumour circulating that Freddy fathered a daughter, but upon checking the validity of this claim through online searches, it seems that it's either a very well kept secret or a falsehood... Does anyone have any thoughts or proof about his potential parentage despite his sexual orientation? Cltjames (talk) 20:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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