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{{Old AfD multi |date=8 December 2017 |result='''keep''' |page=Kris Paronto}} |
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== Ancestry == |
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Hello folks, I saw him in a video say he's Mexican. I don't know the right way to put it in the page or if it should be there, but some pages show the parents and nationalities, i.e. "So and so is of Irish and German descent." Here is the video where he says it -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8p8-_IHiBg ] (]) 10:52, 25 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Notability == |
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== Lead wording == |
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The initial wording in the lead was just changed from "...is an American author and speaker as well as a former U.S. Army Ranger and CIA security contractor" to "...is an American author and speaker. He is also former U.S. Army Ranger and previously worked as ] security contractor." My personal preference is for the first version. It seems to me that the description should be in one sentence, that "is also" is usually always a bad choice for encyclopedic tone, and that "former" speaks to his career as a Ranger and CIA contractor. Having two sentences describing who he is looks clumsy to me as well as the new wording. Thoughts? '''<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span>''' ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 19:58, 10 December 2017 (UTC) |
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The initial wording in the lead was just changed from "...is an American author and speaker as well as a former U.S. Army Ranger and CIA security contractor" to "...is an American author and speaker. He is also former U.S. Army Ranger and previously worked as ] security contractor." My personal preference is for the first version. It seems to me that the description should be in one sentence, that "is also" is usually always a bad choice for encyclopedic tone, and that "former" speaks to his career as a Ranger and CIA contractor. Having two sentences describing who he is looks clumsy to me as well as the new wording. Thoughts? '''<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span>''' ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 19:58, 10 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:Pinging editors with the most and most recent edits to the article for to notify of this discussion: {{U|DHeyward}}, {{U|Lacypaperclip}}, {{U|Sabbatino}}, {{U|CAPTAIN RAJU}}, {{U|Ammarpad}}. '''<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span>''' ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 00:06, 11 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::The above has been here, awaiting comment, for four days now. Since there's seemingly no objection to the former version (or just no interest one way or the other), I will be changing it back to what it was previously. '''<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span>''' ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 14:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC) |
At present, the article’s sources are (a) the subject’s CV, (b) a PR piece about a movie, and (c) a press release, un-bylined, from a small town Texas newspaper. He served four years in the U.S. Army, reaching the rank of sergeant -- a fact not mentioned at present in the article. Almost all his press coverage seems to concern his political advocacy. Far from clear that his notability exceeds that of thousands of soldiers and sailors. MarkBernstein (talk) 21:57, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
The initial wording in the lead was just changed from "...is an American author and speaker as well as a former U.S. Army Ranger and CIA security contractor" to "...is an American author and speaker. He is also former U.S. Army Ranger and previously worked as CIA security contractor." My personal preference is for the first version. It seems to me that the description should be in one sentence, that "is also" is usually always a bad choice for encyclopedic tone, and that "former" speaks to his career as a Ranger and CIA contractor. Having two sentences describing who he is looks clumsy to me as well as the new wording. Thoughts? -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 19:58, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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