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==References== |
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"Cite sources (citation): provide references that help the reader to check the veracity of the article and to find more information. |
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"If you consult an external source while writing an article, citing it is basic intellectual honesty. More than that, you should actively search for authoritative references to cite. If you are writing from your own knowledge, then you should know enough to identify good references that the reader can consult on the subject—you won't be around forever to answer questions. (Also, this forces you to check your facts, and you might find that you don't know everything.) The main point is to help the reader—cite whatever you think will be most helpful. |
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{{Notable Citation|Baroness Sarah Ludford, Member of the European Parliament: "MEP urges investigation of Jeremiah Duggan's death"}} |
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"This applies even when the information is currently undisputed — even if there's no dispute right now, someone might come along in five years and want to dispute, verify, or learn more about a topic . . . |
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==Main sources== |
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{{Misplaced Pages:Featured article tools|1=Death of Jeremiah Duggan}} |
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*Kirby, Terry (2003). , ''The Independent'', 28 August 2003. |
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*Midgley, Carol (2003). , ''The Times'', 7 November 2003. |
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*Samuels, Tim (2004). , BBC ''Newsnight'', 12 February 2004. |
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*Smith, David James (2004). , ''The Sunday Times'', 18 July 2004. |
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*Kirby, Terry (2004). , ''The Independent'', 21 July 2004. |
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*Witt, April (2004). , ''The Washington Post'', 24 October 2004. |
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*Townsend, Mark (2004). , ''The Observer'', 31 October 2004. |
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*Townsend, Mark (2006). , ''The Guardian'', 17 September 2006. |
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*Townsend, Mark and Doward, Jamie (2007). , ''The Observer'', 25 March 2007. |
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*Nugent, Helen (2007). , ''The Times'', 28 March 2007. |
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*Nordhausen, Frank (2007). , ''Berliner Zeitung'', 4 April 2007. |
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*Degen, Wolfgang (2007). , ''Wiesbadener Kurier'', 19 April 2007. |
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*Bundesverfassungsgericht (Federal Constitutional Court of Germany) (2010). , 4 February 2010; . |
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*Taylor, Jerome (2010). ''The Independent'', 27 February 2010. |
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*BBC News (2010). , 20 May 2010. |
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*Taylor, Jerome (2010). , ''The Independent'', 21 May 2010 |
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*Wardrop, Murray (2010). , ''The Daily Telegraph'', 21 May 2010. |
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"References should be collected at the end of the article under a ==References== heading . . ." ] 08:03, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC) |
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==<nowiki>{{NPOV}}</nowiki>== |
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I have put the dispute label because the article presents no evidence that the Schiller Institute played any role at all in Duggan's death; it only presents a politically motivated conspiracy theory. --] 17:57, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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:You are a sockpuppet, as was shown by the banned list of users. This version of the article was written by Herschelkrustofsky and agreed by myself to resolve the NPOV dispute, at which point the tag was removed. The article does not have to present evidence, as you put it. No original research is permitted. The article quotes from a coroner's court. I am deleting the tag because you give no good reason for it, and offer no solution. ] 18:06, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC) |
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I have just modified one external link on ]. Please take a moment to review ]. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit ] for additional information. I made the following changes: |
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::Slim, the matter of removing an NPOV tag is not at your discretion. It is an issue for the Misplaced Pages community at large. Also, you are out of line in accusing her of being a sockpuppet (didn't Weed ask you whether you were a sockpuppet for Adam? Did you give an answer?), and the ban was reversed, apparently by Jimbo. --20:55, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) |
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090106112310/http://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2005/2005_10-19/2005_10-19/2005-11/pdf/40-42_11_intduggan.pdf to http://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2005/2005_10-19/2005_10-19/2005-11/pdf/40-42_11_intduggan.pdf |
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You, Weed Harper, C Colden and the notorious Usenet LaRouche activist Ralph Gibbons have all posted from within two ranges of IP addresses. I therefore believe that one or more of you are sockpuppets. I will not allow this tag suddenly to reappear. YOU wrote this version; we agreed it after a long dispute; and YOU removed the tag. The content has not changed since then. You and your sockpuppets are simply trying to waste my time, and I will not enter into any further discussions with you. Below is the Arb Comm ruling. Please stick to it. I will delete any claims you make that are not relevant or properly referenced using reputable sources. Regarding the photograph, please post the permission of the copyright holder, or don't use it. ] 21:20, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC) |
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Arbitration Committee ruling: |
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Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 03:48, 25 December 2017 (UTC) |
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1) Original work which originates from Lyndon LaRouche and his movement may be removed from any Misplaced Pages article in which it appears other than the article Lyndon LaRouche and other closely related articles. |
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2) Supporters of Lyndon LaRouche are instructed not to add references to Lyndon LaRouche directly to articles except where they are highly relevant, and not to engage in activities that might be perceived as "promotion" of Lyndon LaRouche. |
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3) Misplaced Pages users who engage in re-insertion of original research which originated with Lyndon LaRouche and his movement or engage in edit wars regarding insertion of such material shall be subject to ban upon demonstration to the Arbitration Committee of the offense. |
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4) If an article is protected due to edit wars over the removal of Lyndon-related material, Admins are empowered (as an exception to normal protection policy) to protect the version which does not mention Lyndon LaRouche. |
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===Slim, get a grip=== |
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The portions of the ArbCom ruling which are relevant to this article, and the others where you have started new edit wars, including ] and ], are the following: "the article Lyndon LaRouche and other closely related articles"; and "articles where they are highly relevant." These articles where you are on the edit warpath are indisputably articles where LaRouche is "closely related" and "highly relevant" (should it surprise you that anyone might come to the conclusion that you are an anti-LaRouche activist?), so the issue of "original research" has no bearing on these articles. Regarding the photograph, and I assume that you mean the one at ], I have patiently explained to you three times that I received permission from the copyright holder, which is EIR/Stuart K. Lewis, that I followed procedure when I uploaded it, and it is all right there at <nowiki>]</nowiki>, where anyone not suffering from hysterical blindness should be able to see it with no difficulty. |
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Now, regarding your new tactic of starting an edit war over the NPOV tag: you should read very carefully. --] 21:41, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) |
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:You're just confirming what a waste of time it is to deal with you. YOU wrote this version. I agreed to it only as a compromise to get the dispute over, and to have the NPOV tag removed. So you wait a couple of weeks and put it back, even though the contents have not changed. What a joke you are. You're a LaRouche propagandist, pure and simple, and it is unacceptable that you are editing these articles. Read the NPOV notice carefully yourself. There must be specific grievances that can be fixed before an NPOV notice can be used. The claim that the article provides no evidence of Schiller Institute involvement is absurd. It quotes a court of law, where evidence was presented. What more do you and your sockpuppets want? I am now certain you are Ralph Gibbons. ] 22:08, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC) |
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