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| == GA Review == | |||
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| == Cancelledm == | |||
| '''Reviewer:''' ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:36, 26 August 2017 (UTC) | |||
| Isnt the View now cancelled? ] (]) 14:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| :You need a reliable source to backup this claim and edit the page to that effect. You’ll have an incredibly difficult time finding one. They just aired an episode today. ] (]) 21:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ===Review=== | |||
| :Perhaps you are thinking of The Real? ] (]) 02:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *The lead section is not long enough, and does not cover or explain briefly and poignantly all the points the article covers. | |||
| *The "Format" section is severely lacking in several areas: several sentences and claims require in-line citations and verification to prove that they are true. Considering the series has been on the air for two decades, this section is lacking in information and in sources and as a result is very underdeveloped. | |||
| *Keep things in historical perspective. On October 30, 2014, --> In October 2014, | |||
| *For a subsection that is supposed to cover 17 seasons, 2 paragraphs also seems severely lacking and underdeveloped in content and verifiable sources. | |||
| *Too many grammar issues in the season 18 subsection. Keep things in historical perspective. Needs a copyedit, as "in summer 2014" is extremely badly written and grammatically incorrect. | |||
| *Seasons 19–20 subsection is also way too brief; lacking, underdeveloped, and in need of more sources. | |||
| *The co-host section and its subsection seems fine in terms of content but needs a huge general copyedit for the same reasons listed above, and also to eliminate unnecessary repeated information, which I'm seeing a lot of. | |||
| *The notable episodes section needs a ton of work. General copyedit to start (there are several sentences that are just on their own as if they are all separate paragraphs - extremely messy), but then more content with verifiable sources is going to need to be added to make it seem more noteworthy of having its own section. | |||
| *Reception section seems fine in terms of content, but it also seems like the bare minimum in terms of research was done here. I guarantee that you can find so much more quotes from critics and other information for this section over the past 20 years. Also needs a general copyedit. | |||
| *The rest of the article does not require any changes or further work in my opinion. | |||
| Here; take it for what it is worth. https://tin356.com/abc-decides-not-to-renew-the-view-for-the-next-year-due-to-a-significant-decline-in-audience-numbers-and-diminishing-viewer-engagement-nhung/ --] (]) 23:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :'''] review''' (see ] for what the criteria are, and ] for what they are not) | |||
| == No mention of Corey Feldman == | |||
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| #:: The majority of the article has far too many grammatical concerns. Needs copyediting. | |||
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| #:: '''Fail'''. A lot more work needs to be done on this article before it can be passed for GA. Keep working on it with my comments and nominate it again when more work has been put into it.<!-- Template:GAList --> | |||
| Heads up that the Corey Feldman issue is not mentioned on the page. | |||
| == Requested move 26 September 2017 == | |||
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| The result of the move request was: '''moved''' as proposed. The original proposal is the only one I can find consensus for. --] <sup>(])</sup> 19:08, 19 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| RS's cover the issue, and have now across years. Believe it merits inclusion. ] (]) 01:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ] → {{no redirect|The View (talk show)}} – This is a talk show. ] did this move, but it was then reverted a few days later. ''']''' <sup>(], ])</sup> 00:45, 26 September 2017 (UTC) <small>--'''''Relisting.''''' ] (]) 16:56, 11 October 2017 (UTC)</small> | |||
| *'''Support''' - Per ], a disambiguation that is only two words is better and still gets across the same info.<sub><small>] (])</small></sub> 05:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Strong oppose''' (re above, ] is not really about shrinking 10-character dabs down to 9-character dabs, see examples on guideline). The proposed move is contrary to normal titling of (TV series) as the default for all series whatever format, including talk shows. Even if ] was not also in part a talk show we wouldn't distinguish by (talk show), but in this case the Irish show also was in part a talk show " There was a varied panel of contributors who offer their opinions" ... i.e. talked in a panel talk show format; so the entire rationale for this move just evaporated. ] (]) 09:37, 26 September 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ** You could not be more wrong when you say "titling of (TV series) as the default for all series whatever format" – that is absolutely incorrect. The default naming is actually "TV program". Generally only TV programs with continuing storylines (e.g. scripted fictional TV program) get the "TV series" disambiguation term. --] <small>(] • ])</small> 20:18, 18 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Support''' - this precedent is clearly established per ]. This is a talk show, it uses '''<tt>(talk show)</tt>'''. This has been part of the ] for years and years. I don't have specific knowledge about ], but it looks like that needs to be renamed as a separate matter (if that one qualifies as a talk show also, then ] would become ] ). -- ] ] 11:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC) -- added. Also '''support''' ] move to ]. -- ] ] 04:03, 19 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Comment''' - I think it's likely that ] is also a talk show - the article says it consists of a presenter and various contributors discussing arts topics. Therefore this should be moved to ], and the other one should be ]. — ] (]) 10:46, 3 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ** {{Re|Amakuru}} I don't get that ] is a "talk show". But it is also clearly not a "TV series", as it is simply a TV program (it even says so in the lede) devoted to the "arts". Thus, it should either be moved to ], or to ] if it is felt that the talk show and the TV program need additional (national) disambiguation from each other (which, in this case, I don't feel that they do, though I would advise employing hatnotes at both articles...). --] <small>(] • ])</small> 02:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| **:{{ping|IJBall}} from ] article we learn that {{tq|A talk show or chat show is a television programming or radio programming genre in which one person (or group of people) discusses various topics put forth by a talk show host.}} The Irish show is clearly that. So the title ] is not possible because of ] and ]. To be honest with you though, looking at this again, I might have been over hasty in rejecting the outright primary topic though. Moving to ] might be an option, it does get a lot more page views than anything else. — ] (]) 09:19, 19 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Move''' to ], and move the dab page to ]. This show is far and away the ]: it receives 91% of all article traffic, is the best known of all topics internationally, and the one with by far the most influence and long-term significance.--] ]/] 14:16, 3 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *:I would oppose this. The show is not known internationally, and is not primary over all the other topics combined. The Scottish band are significant as well. — ] (]) 10:38, 4 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::Well, it's objectively known internationally, as it airs or has aired in multiple countries, but that has no bearing on whether something's the primary topic. This gets over 90% of the traffic and neither the band nor the rest of the topics combined challenge it in terms of notability. When the vast majority of our readers are looking for the same thing, we shouldn't be throwing roadblocks in their way.--] ]/] 13:32, 4 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :: On the other hand, it's hard to argue with the page view stats... I'll mark this as my second choice, as I still prefer using the "talk show" disambiguator. --] <small>(] • ])</small> 02:35, 19 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Oppose''' per In ictu oculi. The proposed move would cause loss of analogous disambiguation via each series' national identity, thus putting into question the reason for use of "Irish" within one series' qualifier and omitting such identity in the other qualifier. Also, Cúchullain's point regarding positioning of the U.S. series as the ] is well argued and should be taken into consideration.] <small>]</small> 17:32, 11 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Support''' moving to ] or as originally proposed. It's not a series. And the U.S. show is far better-known and more significant than the other topics - the Irish program and British band seem to be not exactly cultural icons in their own countries much less globally. —] 10:01, 12 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Support''' "Talk show" is more accurate than "series." ] (]) 12:57, 12 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| * '''Strong support''' – "talk show" is absolutely the correct disambig. term as per ]. There have been repeated discussions about this at NCTV, and the strong consensus is that "TV series" should only be used for those TV programs that have continuing storylines (which is primarily scripted fictional TV series, and some reality TV series). This program doesn't qualify: it's a talk show, not a "TV series". --] <small>(] • ])</small> 20:14, 18 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| == Need to add Misplaced Pages link to Barbara Walters == | |||
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| I think we need to add Misplaced Pages link from The View Cast in this article to the Barbara Walters article also in Misplaced Pages | |||
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Cancelledm
Isnt the View now cancelled? 47.157.150.90 (talk) 14:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- You need a reliable source to backup this claim and edit the page to that effect. You’ll have an incredibly difficult time finding one. They just aired an episode today. Darkprincealain (talk) 21:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps you are thinking of The Real? 2601:19E:8280:12E0:6D61:3CC8:1DD7:2488 (talk) 02:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Here; take it for what it is worth. https://tin356.com/abc-decides-not-to-renew-the-view-for-the-next-year-due-to-a-significant-decline-in-audience-numbers-and-diminishing-viewer-engagement-nhung/ --Nosehair2200 (talk) 23:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
No mention of Corey Feldman
Heads up that the Corey Feldman issue is not mentioned on the page.
RS's cover the issue, and have now across years. Believe it merits inclusion. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 01:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Need to add Misplaced Pages link to Barbara Walters
I think we need to add Misplaced Pages link from The View Cast in this article to the Barbara Walters article also in Misplaced Pages
Jan Dalejcik Jdalejcik (talk) 15:36, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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