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| :I disagree with your assessment of my statement, and I direct you back to the page itself for my response. It is not a personal attack. It was very carefully worded to avoid the appearance of being a personal attack. ] (]) 20:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::] forbids {{tq|using someone's affiliations as an '']'' means of dismissing or discrediting their views}}. Your statement that {{tqb|it is very reasonable and objectively true that a specific set of opinions of a certain community is very strongly linked to the use of pronouns. Which is the basis behind the need to call their motivations into question}} is a clear violation of policy. ] (]) 20:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :::The argument is moot. I removed the point. | |||
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| :::However it was NOT an ad homenim, nor was it intended as one. ] (]) 20:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Despite removing the personal attack, you've ] alluding to your original point, repeating that you think it was {{tq|accurate}}, and continuing to {{tq|call motivation into question}}. ] (]) 20:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Even though I don't agree with him, he does have some good and detailed points he brought up to page to the overwhelmingly keep ones. Apart from the they/them thing I think it should stay. ] (]) 20:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| == February 2018 == | |||
| <div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px">]<div style="margin-left:45px">You have been ''']''' from editing for a period of '''24 hours''' for ]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to ]. </div><div style="margin-left:45px">During a dispute, you should first try to ] and seek ]. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek ], and in some cases it may be appropriate to request ].</div><div style="margin-left:45px">If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the ], then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}. ] 21:13, 12 February 2018 (UTC)</div></div><!-- Template:uw-ewblock --> | |||
| :The intent was simply to return to the original discussion rather than derail over a debate regarding whether something was, or was not a personal attack. It really added nothing more to the conversation, since my prior statements had been altered by SMG anyway. ] (]) 21:43, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Pull a like this again and you can expect a much longer block. --] <sup>]</sup> 21:17, 12 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::What are you talking about? I submitted a '''new''' edit warring report against Darkness Shines; and, if that wasn't what happened, then something went wrong. Accusing me of pulling some kind of "stunt" when the entire process is difficult and nonintuitive, along with throwing me off the site for 24 hours is ludicrous.] (]) 21:25, 12 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :::You reverted 3 different editors a total of 5 times. "ludicrous" is not the word that first comes to mind. --] 21:33, 12 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :::You've missed the point I was making; I'm not disputing the number of times I reverted the entry - I'm saying there was a rotation of others continually reverting the change I made so they could avoid violating the 3RR rule. It would appear that the "pull a stunt like this" warning was about the error made in submitting the report against Darkness Shines, which, whether the mistake was mine or not, was not my intent. I am having a very difficult time assuming good faith here.] (]) 21:40, 12 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| {{unblock reviewed | 1=Other users gaming the system by reverting a POV tag added in good faith. The point of a POV tag is to open a discussion without making changes to a page. Other users didn't want the tag there; so instead of discussing it, they removed it. This is over-the-top and arbitrary. Switching the names around was not my intent - I was attempting to file a new report against Darkness Shines. The reporting process is difficult and nonintuitive. ] (]) 4:27 pm, Today (UTC−5) | decline = See ] ] <sup>]</sup> 21:35, 12 February 2018 (UTC)}} | |||
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| {{unblock reviewed|reason=Requesting someone other than NeilN review this request, as NeilN's comment above, "Pull a stunt like this" in response to an honest mistake makes them appear partial in this case. Error was made in reporting another user for edit warring resulting in a block being applied to as some form of punishment, or "time out" or "cooling down period." In any event, I was attempting to file a NEW report against another user for edit warring, as multiple accounts were repeatedly reverting a small edit I made. Yes, I reverted more than 3 times which, when one uses the letter of the law to defeat the spirit of the law, it is a violation of the rule; but when multiple accounts are reverting as a way around the 3RR rule, they are gaming the system and my good-faith actions result in the disciplinary action against me. <br> | |||
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| '''To summarize: 1) This appeal is based on apparent non-impartiality of prior review and thus I am asking for an independent review; 2) Honest mistake/error in submission of a new report resulted in block; 3) Edit war involved others gaming the system.''' ] (]) 21:47, 12 February 2018 (UTC)|decline=The spirit of the law is: "Don't edit war; it's disruptive even if you're right." There are a few ] to ]. "They made me do it" and "I had to revert so often because so many different people disagreed with me" are not among them. This block thus doesn't serve as a punishment but to stop you from continuing to edit war - and I don't see in the above that you believe your conduct was wrong, or that you'd change your approach if unblocked. ] (]) 21:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)}} | |||
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| Fair enough. Review has been made by an independent admin as I requested. And you’re right - I do not believe my conduct was wrong; as the initial change made did not make any edits to the actual content of a page to begin with. When others gang up on an editor to force/impose their will on a user, it completely destroys the “free and open” atmosphere that Misplaced Pages purports to be. | |||
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| Thus, once the blocks are removed, I will be taking steps to leave and not return, using whatever appropriate means are available to me. ] (]) 22:11, 12 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| :Misplaced Pages isn't ''that'' free and open. It's not for people who can't or won't adhere to community standards. --] (]) 05:46, 13 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::How convenient that three or four people can use a rotation system to continually revert a neutrality disputed POV tag - which Misplaced Pages policy is fair and clear about, and is also fair and clear about what to do when one is placed on an entry to get around the edit warring rules; yet when the person who was following the policy regarding when, why, and how to place the POV tag on a page, in good faith, puts it up, gets the punishment. No; Misplaced Pages's policy is written to enable those who are established, administrators, and otherwise in the clique the ability to game the system regarding edit warring, and then have a convoluted, difficult notification process which ensures that only those who are "in the club" are able to enforce it to the letter, squeezing out the casual, novice editors who have made only a few small edits from time to time. The "community standards" aren't "standard", or "communal" at all. They're designed to keep the in-crowd in, and the out-crowd out.] (]) 14:53, 13 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| == DELETE MY ACCOUNT == | |||
| Please delete my account. Clearly Misplaced Pages is not a place for me, and I will make a point of never returning. ] (]) 01:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I don’t care about any of that. None of my edits appear on Misplaced Pages anyway. I just no longer want my name associated with this place in any way, shape, or form. ] (]) 01:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Then stop editing. ] (]) 02:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::So you keep saying. I can’t edit anyway. | |||
| ::::incidentally, what is the the link to the form requesting a username change? ] (]) 02:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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October 2024
Hello, I'm Sir MemeGod. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Comparisons between Donald Trump and fascism that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Misplaced Pages is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. SMG chat 20:08, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree with your assessment of my statement, and I direct you back to the page itself for my response. It is not a personal attack. It was very carefully worded to avoid the appearance of being a personal attack. Steven Britton (talk) 20:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:NPA forbids
using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views
. Your statement that
is a clear violation of policy. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)it is very reasonable and objectively true that a specific set of opinions of a certain community is very strongly linked to the use of pronouns. Which is the basis behind the need to call their motivations into question
- The argument is moot. I removed the point.
- However it was NOT an ad homenim, nor was it intended as one. Steven Britton (talk) 20:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Despite removing the personal attack, you've commented alluding to your original point, repeating that you think it was
accurate
, and continuing tocall motivation into question
. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Despite removing the personal attack, you've commented alluding to your original point, repeating that you think it was
- WP:NPA forbids
- Even though I don't agree with him, he does have some good and detailed points he brought up to page to the overwhelmingly keep ones. Apart from the they/them thing I think it should stay. 2A04:4A43:969F:FAC0:6184:5359:3555:1C9A (talk) 20:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Please do not delete or alter legitimate talk page comments from other editors, as you did at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Comparisons between Donald Trump and fascism. Such edits are disruptive, and may appear to other editors to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Thank you. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- The intent was simply to return to the original discussion rather than derail over a debate regarding whether something was, or was not a personal attack. It really added nothing more to the conversation, since my prior statements had been altered by SMG anyway. Steven Britton (talk) 21:43, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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ANI discussion
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DELETE MY ACCOUNT
Please delete my account. Clearly Misplaced Pages is not a place for me, and I will make a point of never returning. Steven Britton (talk) 01:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Accounts cannot be deleted for copyright related legal reasons. Whenever you edited, you accepted the following legal language:
By publishing changes, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and the GFDL
. Just stop editing. Cullen328 (talk) 01:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)- I don’t care about any of that. None of my edits appear on Misplaced Pages anyway. I just no longer want my name associated with this place in any way, shape, or form. Steven Britton (talk) 01:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Then stop editing. Cullen328 (talk) 02:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- So you keep saying. I can’t edit anyway.
- incidentally, what is the the link to the form requesting a username change? Misplaced Pages Is Trash (talk) 02:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Then stop editing. Cullen328 (talk) 02:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t care about any of that. None of my edits appear on Misplaced Pages anyway. I just no longer want my name associated with this place in any way, shape, or form. Steven Britton (talk) 01:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Your talk page access has been revoked. Please read WP:UTRS for your options going forward. Cullen328 (talk) 03:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC)