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| == Looking for epistemiologist ] == | |||
| The notability of ] is being discussed in its talk page. If somebody has some evidence of the notability of her work in philosophy (epistemiology) please consider joining the conservation. ] (]) 16:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Peer review of ] == | |||
| I was hoping to get some feedback on the article ] to prepare it for a ]. The peer review can found at ]. ] (]) 17:16, 26 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Seeking for a consensus regarding the "philosophical pessimism" template == | |||
| Greetings, all. | |||
| The user "Paranakyaa" has recently argued against me in these edits (https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Philosophical_pessimism&action=history) that many of the links to the template "philosophical pessimism" should be in red merely because they do not have a Misplaced Pages article still existing for them. | |||
| I, on the other hand, tried to argue against them by stating that such red links are unnecessary and make the template look aesthetically unpleasant. | |||
| After that, he appealed to the supposed fact there is a "consensus" that such links should be red (https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates#Navigation_templates). | |||
| I still maintain my original position, but have no further intent nor energy to engage in any kind of "edit war" with them. If there is still no Misplaced Pages article existing for these works, the fact that they are not dyed in the color blue already indicates this; there is no need to make so many works in the template dyed in the color red. | |||
| I am curious as to other users think about this. Please do share your opinion so that we might, in fact, reach a "consensus". ] (]) 15:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == '''Discussion/Research Starter for the Fundamental Relationship between Philosophy and Democracy/Republic:''' "Philosophy or Simply The Best" == | |||
| ::Following is the preamble to the '''Universal Democracy Constitution''' aiming to explain the general need for such a constitution that is integral part of the parallel , which currently contains a draft constitutional-democracy-article design for discussion/development: | |||
| '''Meaning of Philosophy''' | |||
| A Greek word meaning “love of wisdom” and consequently the thinking about thinking. It is literally universal, and is the all-encompassing term of religion, is it not? --- Why? | |||
| == ] of ] == | |||
| '''Superposing Philosophical Term''' | |||
| ] | |||
| One branch of philosophy is called altruistic hedonism. It means the wellbeing or “happiness” of the greatest number – not only oneself but of all, and maybe not limited to humans alone. Regrettably, it has not yet been realized that altruistic hedonism is the superposing philosophical term, and that its principles are increasingly theoretically and publicly accepted throughout this world. --- Really? How comes that? | |||
| The article ] has been ] because of the following concern: | |||
| '''Superposing Praxis Terms''' | |||
| <blockquote>'''Unreferenced and unimproved almost 15 years. Spam bucket. Vandal bait. Not enough information to merge, and no obvious targets for a redirect. Delete and salt, please.'''</blockquote> | |||
| Quite simple: It’s called civilization, and means a well-designed democratic system including constitutional safeguards --- This is the practical form of altruistic hedonism! | |||
| Amazingly, democracy is also communism (from “community”; the East Block never had democracy and thus communism, but helped the downgrading of this term by vested western interests, nor had the West Block – you can hardly describe a fascistic-corrupt 2-party system in this way). | |||
| And it also includes: Electron or gene omnipotence, machismo, capitalism, materialism, egotism, pacifism, artism, rationalism, vegetarianism, meritocracy, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Gnosticism, Atheism, scientologism, technologism, etc. –ism, when it is regulated by the whole community so that it does not clash in serious ways with all the other pluralistic minority –isms --- and vice versa! | |||
| While all constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, pages may be ]. | |||
| '''Incompatibilities''' | |||
| However, some –isms are fundamentally incompatible with democracy’s altruistic hedonism, i.e. cannibalism, dictatorship, monarchy, satanism, fascism, anarchy, hereditary aristocracy, etc. | |||
| You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your ] or on ]. | |||
| Hence there is the outcrying need for a fundamental agreement between all persons, like for a Constitution, Basic Law or Bill of Rights! | |||
| Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the ], but other ]es exist. In particular, the ] process can result in deletion without discussion, and ] allows discussion to reach ] for deletion.<!-- Template:Proposed deletion notify --> ] (]) ] (]) 00:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :But is it really the best? | |||
| == "]" listed at ] == | |||
| '''Reason for Universal Implementation''' | |||
| ] | |||
| The answer is given by the question itself! It is the best, because all want the best for one’s own wellbeing, and this philosophy is continuously trying to optimize and achieve just this. Practically, it means the best all-including compromise between the ruling ruled in a democratic system – at its best when safeguarded with the best open-approach constitution. | |||
| The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> to the article ] has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 14#You lose}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 03:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Notability of ] == | |||
| '''Underlying Principle''' | |||
| But what is best? Today’s best could well turn out as tomorrow’s worst! History and science show this aspect of “human nature” and “wisdom” clearly; besides that, one needs to make mistakes to learn to correct them … and to learn. | |||
| If one could only prevent the worst damaging mistakes! | |||
| Religions are in general absolute: capitalists are always right and must therefore govern the world, and most other religions usually likewise. But again and again there appear wholly convinced believers who suddenly change to another religion, because they found themselves caught in a maddening contradictive situation. | |||
| Any system that entirely subdues and punishes minority philosophies would rob its rulers of ideas (and freedoms) that could well turn out to be the best tomorrow! With this background one can paradoxically never say what the best sub-philosophy is, but one can say that the best superposing philosophy or societal system is the one that keeps all options open -- with some regulations against excessiveness, before all have to bear the damaging results: Societal and ecological disaster through unlimited all- and self-destroying wealth-accumulating and corrupting egotism (materialism/ capitalism) that would not even want its own destruction! | |||
| Was he notable enough that he should have a separate page on his works at ], which was recently created by ]. I have seen these for nobel laureates, but I feel as part of ] this question should be asked. I will also post to psychology. ] (]) 14:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| '''Motto''' | |||
| Just call it '''The Best For The Most''' | |||
| Not very long after Jesus, Marcus Aurelius (A.D. 121-180) placed as a Roman emperor the wellbeing of society before his own individual comfort (while enjoying the spoils of an emperor, of course…): | |||
| “What is not good for the swarm, is not good for the bee” | |||
| == Requested move at ] == | |||
| '''Remarks''' (or are they conclusions?) | |||
| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] 07:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Absolute philosophies try to cement their arrogant rule above all others for eternity, which is a form of stagnation. By definition, stagnation ultimately means the end of physical and mental life… no more questions please! You need no old age or university degree to be wise, but a mental struggle would help: Why are the ignorant so sure, and the wise so unsure? | |||
| == Merge proposal for discussion == | |||
| And for us galaxy hitchhikers the answer to the question of absolute sense or purpose of it all remains 42 for the time being; Did the computer create this figure, or did the laboratory mice? | |||
| -- looking forward to constructive criticism/additions ] (]) 00:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC) | |||
| There is an ongoing ] for ] into ] that may concern collaborators of this WikiProject. ] (]) 05:37, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Need help disambiguating several "Mental object"-esque articles == | |||
| Currently "Mental object" redirects to ], which seems to be a philosophy-related stub. However, there are several articles that seem to be talking about roughly the same concept, and I'm not sure why these are all seperate: | |||
| == ] == | |||
| * ] | |||
| Any philosophical insight that would be useful for the improvement of ] would be appreciated. Cheers! ] ] 19:12, 22 December 2017 (UTC) | |||
| * ] | |||
| == Missing topic == | |||
| * ] | |||
| When researching ], I came across the idea that ]s are ] beings. However, I do not see this anywhere on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 09:56, 14 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
| and possibly | |||
| == Unity in diversity == | |||
| * ] | |||
| Could I get some feedback on ]? Sometime back in April 2017 the page was significantly altered to state that "Unity in diversity" was merely a political motto, but I feel like there's a good case for it being more of an overarching philosophical concept—even if the phrase itself is sometimes used as a slogan. The Lalonde ref on that page mentions that the concept was current in Taoist societies as well as in Ancient Greece, but all I've been able to find so far was its treatment by ] and his followers. Would anyone else have any leads on good sources to expand this article? ''']'''_<span style="font-size:70%">]</span><span style="font-size:70%;vertical-align:top">]</span> 15:04, 19 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
| * ] | |||
| * ] | |||
| "Mental world" seems like It should be more about a representation of reality, rather than an individual object. | |||
| ==]== | |||
| I just put together a biography of this German-born Hegelian, who seems like he was important in the early history of Hegel in America and of the "St. Louis Movement". If anyone wants to look it over and maybe find something better to say about his impact, that would be great. Anyways, there is at least something on him now. ] (]) 19:19, 19 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
| So, for a start, I think "Mental object" redirect should be changed to "Object of the mind", which I can go ahead and do. But other than that, I think there needs to be some discussion about clarifying what these articles are about, adding {{Template link|About}}/{{Template link|For}} hatnotes to each of the articles to clarify their distinction, and possibly merging some. | |||
| == ] needs your help == | |||
| Sidenote: It seems reasonable that ] might be interested in this discussion. I might make a post there directing here. ] (]) 03:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ] is overly essay-like and needs more citations to sources. | |||
| == Good article reassessment for ] == | |||
| Would anyone here care to review and improve this article? | |||
| ] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 15:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Good article reassessment for ] == | |||
| Thanks -- ] (]) 15:28, 1 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 23:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| == Topics in Metaphysics == | |||
| Hello! Is there anyone willing to help me improve the article '']''? Thank you! ] (]) 08:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Someone has been repeatedly removing much of the content of the article ] listing the central topics of the field (in a structure closely mirroring other authoritative sources like SEP) citing poor referencing for those being within the domain of metaphysics. Some other editors' attention there would be appreciated. --] (]) 18:54, 5 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == |
== ] == | ||
| Hello! Is there anyone willing to help me improve the article '']''? Thank you! ] (]) 16:03, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Hello. I have a dispute with Διοτιμα at the article ]. I have attempted to engage with this user and discuss the dispute at the article's talk page. He has, however, ignored me. I would welcome any comments on the issue, whatever they are, from editors interested in philosophy. ] (]) 20:08, 17 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :This user has also tampered with ]. Their latest additions seem to be a personal interpretation of '']''. --] (]) 00:44, 20 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hello, ]. I would appreciate it if you could comment about the dispute on the talk page of the article ]. There is a similar dispute at ] that you might also want to comment on. To be completely explicit about it, I am not asking you or other editors to agree with me. I welcome your comments whatever they are. ] (]) 20:49, 25 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == ] is incoherent == | |||
| ==A link to a DAB page== | |||
| ] contains a link to the DAB page ] which has me baffled. Can any expert here help solve the problem? ] (]) 15:16, 27 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| This category seems to contain a large number of items that don't belong, or should be directly in ]. In particular, it is part of the cateogry loop {{nowrap|] → ] → ]}}, with an alternative loop through ] between "Intimate relationships" and "Love". –] (]]) 03:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| : Pien refers to the concept of gradual transformation in Confucian or Taoist philosophy; see for instance ]. --] (]) 18:44, 27 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :: {{ping|Mark viking}} In that case, can you repair that bad link, and perhaps also update the DAB page? I don't feel competent to do so. ] (]) 22:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::: {{checkmark}} Done. --] (]) 23:23, 27 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
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Looking for epistemiologist Mioara Mugur-Schächter
The notability of Mioara Mugur-Schächter is being discussed in its talk page. If somebody has some evidence of the notability of her work in philosophy (epistemiology) please consider joining the conservation. ReyHahn (talk) 16:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Peer review of Mind
I was hoping to get some feedback on the article Mind to prepare it for a featured article candidacy. The peer review can found at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Mind/archive1. Phlsph7 (talk) 17:16, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Seeking for a consensus regarding the "philosophical pessimism" template
Greetings, all.
The user "Paranakyaa" has recently argued against me in these edits (https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Philosophical_pessimism&action=history) that many of the links to the template "philosophical pessimism" should be in red merely because they do not have a Misplaced Pages article still existing for them.
I, on the other hand, tried to argue against them by stating that such red links are unnecessary and make the template look aesthetically unpleasant.
After that, he appealed to the supposed fact there is a "consensus" that such links should be red (https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates#Navigation_templates).
I still maintain my original position, but have no further intent nor energy to engage in any kind of "edit war" with them. If there is still no Misplaced Pages article existing for these works, the fact that they are not dyed in the color blue already indicates this; there is no need to make so many works in the template dyed in the color red.
I am curious as to other users think about this. Please do share your opinion so that we might, in fact, reach a "consensus". Alice793 (talk) 15:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Universal dialectic
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"You lose" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Notability of Jean Laplanche
Was he notable enough that he should have a separate page on his works at Jean Laplanche bibliography, which was recently created by Honigfrau. I have seen these for nobel laureates, but I feel as part of WP:NPP this question should be asked. I will also post to psychology. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Subjectivity and objectivity (philosophy)#Requested move 7 December 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Subjectivity and objectivity (philosophy)#Requested move 7 December 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Merge proposal for discussion
There is an ongoing merge proposal for Statement (logic) into Proposition that may concern collaborators of this WikiProject. Tule-hog (talk) 05:37, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Need help disambiguating several "Mental object"-esque articles
Currently "Mental object" redirects to Mental world, which seems to be a philosophy-related stub. However, there are several articles that seem to be talking about roughly the same concept, and I'm not sure why these are all seperate:
and possibly
"Mental world" seems like It should be more about a representation of reality, rather than an individual object.
So, for a start, I think "Mental object" redirect should be changed to "Object of the mind", which I can go ahead and do. But other than that, I think there needs to be some discussion about clarifying what these articles are about, adding {{About}}/{{For}} hatnotes to each of the articles to clarify their distinction, and possibly merging some.
Sidenote: It seems reasonable that WikiProject Psychology might be interested in this discussion. I might make a post there directing here. Farkle Griffen (talk) 03:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Teleological argument
Teleological argument has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Alfred North Whitehead
Alfred North Whitehead has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
An Introduction to Non-Classical Logic
Hello! Is there anyone willing to help me improve the article An Introduction to Non-Classical Logic? Thank you! MathKeduor7 (talk) 08:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Science and Sanity
Hello! Is there anyone willing to help me improve the article Science and Sanity? Thank you! MathKeduor7 (talk) 16:03, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Philosophy of love is incoherent
This category seems to contain a large number of items that don't belong, or should be directly in Category:Love. In particular, it is part of the cateogry loop Category:Philosophy of love → Category:Intimate relationships → Category:Love, with an alternative loop through Category:Human sexuality between "Intimate relationships" and "Love". –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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