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==Notice of noticeboard discussion==
== User:De la lombertie ==
{{Atop|This discussion is closed.--] (]) 15:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}}

] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an action which you performed.&nbsp;The thread is ]. Thank you.<!--Template:Discussion notice--><!--Template:XRV-notice--> ] (]) 16:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello Bbb23, thank you again for your continuing work at SPI, it is appreciated. Could you re-look at the accounts in your close of ]? While the IPs were indeed stale, the sock-puppets ] and ] should actually be associated with a different sock master, ]. Thanks, ] (]) 21:21, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
:There is no relationship between De la lombertie and Raymondskie99, and the two accounts I blocked were without question operated by Raymondskie99. The reason Loopy30isgay attacked the De la lombertie SPI was because of you.--] (]) 23:07, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

== Littlemixfan! IPsock ==

IPsock ] geolocated to Australia. Continuing edit after August 2017 block. See and . ] (]) 16:09, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
:The IP is remains possibly inactive. ] (]) 05:00, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

::{{tps}}Hi {{u|Soft_pop}}

::Just FYI in future I would raise this as a ] rather than leaving a message on a CheckUser's talk page. Talk pages can get so busy sometimes messages can get missed and not every CheckUser is fortunate like {{u|Bbb23}} to have a nosy Misplaced Pages administrator watching their talk page! :D

::Also, filing an SPI means that you're not relying on one CheckUser, all CheckUsers would then see it and it's likely to be dealt with quicker.

::In this case I've raised the SPI for you and I've requested CheckUser evidence as I'm assuming that's what you would have done if you had raised the SPI yourself. I've also blocked the IP you mentioned above. I've also tagged you in the SPI that I raised so you can see what happens with it, add any additional evidence you might have etc, but just in case the tag doesn't work, you can find it --] (]) 22:27, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

==Lokesh1699==
Looks like a checkuser comment may be needed at ]. The blocked editor is claiming that there is no relationship with two other accounts that have made substantially the same edits. ~] <small>(])</small> 22:46, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

== Mike Pompeo ==

Hi Bbb23 I was trying to make it like this https://en.wikipedia.org/Rex_Tillerson#Nomination_and_confirmation If you know how to do it that would be great. Thanks:] (]) 22:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
:I think it's premature to add it until there's something to put in it.--] (]) 23:15, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
::I did put it. the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Voted 10-9] (]) 23:25, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
:::Hehe, with the mess you made of it (no offense), I couldn't tell. I actually didn't know the Committee voted until just a moment ago. I think the vote, though, was 11-10, although it unfolded procedurally in a rather unusual way. In any case, if an editor wants to put it in and properly source it, fine. I don't feel like doing it, honestly.--] (]) 23:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
::::{{tps}} According to , it was 11-9 (with one Democrat voting "present"). --] (]) 00:23, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Bbb23 some users are saying we are in an edit war I watch C-SPAN every day here is what it say and you can read it and watch the whole video to your self

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Meeting on Mike Pompeo Nomination The Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a meeting to vote on the president’s secretary of State nominee, current CIA Director Mike Pompeo. The Committee initially voted 11-10 to support the nomination. However, Senator Isakson’s (R-GA) vote was by proxy and by Senate rules could not be used to move a nomination to the floor. After some discussion, Senator Coons (D-DE), who opposed the nomination was recorded as voting no, voted present to allow the nomination to go forward by a vote of 10-9.

Video: https://www.c-span.org/video/?444353-1/committee-votes-send-pompeo-nomination-senate-floor

Thanks:] (]) 02:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
:The vote was 11-9. Senator Isakson's proxy vote did count. But per Senate rules, a proxy vote can't be THE vote that makes the difference. Once it was no longer the deciding vote, it counted. <small>BTW it's interesting to see all the amazement in Washington that a senator would do something nice for a fellow senator as Coons did. The nomination was going to be approved anyhow, but it would have required Isakson to jump on a plane and fly to Washington that night. And yet in today's partisan atmosphere, it seems to be astonishing to the PTB to see a courteous gesture like this to a member of the other party. </small> --] (]) 03:27, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

== ] ==

As you are most familiar with the activity of LTA / sockpuppetry on this page, I would appreciate if you would look at recent history. It looks like the same old stuff here, and I know what I am seeing, but I don't want to get myself into trouble here. Many thanks in advance! ''']<sup>]</sup>''' 13:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
:I can't comment on IPs. If you think the IPs (the range) is a sock, please take it to SPI.--] (]) 13:50, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you; I have done so. Have a great day! ''']<sup>]</sup>''' 14:32, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

== Deletion of Paani Foundation ==

Hey, Why did you delete the page I created about the NGO ]. It is important to convey about this organization as it is involved in public outreach to a huge audience across a big state in India. Please reinstate the page - by ] (]) 16:38, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
:{{re|Paradoxs}} I restored the article and re-deleted it based on g7, g11, and g12 (copyright violation). It's nothing but an ad for a non-notable organization. Copyright is taken seriously at Misplaced Pages, and if you violate copyright again, you risk being blocked.--] (]) 16:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
==Adjustments were made==
I did make adjustments to my comment. It seems you did not even read what you were reverting and just acted upon Capital00's orders. What attack did you see in the following text? Don't you think you are overreacting?

''As for Mblaze Lightning's supportive comment is concerned, there is no substance in it, saying "Yeah it's him" and putting a megaphone next to it does not make him, him.'' ] | ] | 18:37, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
:It's unnecessary to make the comment regarding the other editor. So, don't.--] (]) 18:41, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
::Read it again, it’s not about the other editor, it’s about his supportive comment. Who is talking about the editor? All I am saying is that there is no substance in his comment. I never said there is no substance in him. ] | ] | 18:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

== Draft: Bhurit Bhirombhakdi ==

] (]) 02:55, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Bbb23,
I need help about submitting for reviewing AFC process. At the moment, I have a draft version of https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Bhurit_Bhirombhakdi and I would like to send this draft to review by AFC process before the article publish. So, How can I submit this article?

Thank you
==Belligerence==
Hey, you asked me not to use the word "belligerence" , can you cite a policy or point me to the list of prohibited words which contains "belligerence" as one of them?

You are kind of putting curbs on my freedom of expression by these maneuvers. ] | ] | 15:17, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
:Yes, and I'm going to put a further "curb". I'm reverting your last edit and I don't want to see you post any more to that SPI. You've made a few good points despite some of the language, but at this point you're being disruptive.--] (]) 15:42, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
::That is just insane, Bbb23. What did I ever do to you? How can I earn your trust? I know you have all the power here being an admin and all but I always thought I have been sticking to the policies. Can you please let me know what policy you are following removing my comments and putting further curbs on my freedom of expression? Also, is there a list of words not to use and belligerence being one of them? Do admins follow any policies or they are above the law here? ] | ] | 15:58, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
:::].--] (]) 16:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
::::I thought this through and thus acknowledge that I have been too blunt and overboard with my latest comments and would like to request you to allow me to post to that SPI while I promise that I will stick to responding to the latest evidence added by the filer and not deviate from it. ] | ] | 14:46, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
:::::Okay, but three things: First, comment factually on the evidence. You don't have to describe it as "frivolous" or "worthless" or other similar adjectives. Second, make sure that what you have to say is '''helpful''' to the clerk(s) who will evaluate the behavior. Remember that the clerks are experienced at this sort of thing. Finally, the more additions and rebuttals added to the report the more cluttered it becomes and the more difficult it is for the clerks.--] (]) 14:59, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, I appreciate your kindness. ] | ] | 15:09, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

== ] ==

Thank you for your cooperation in this case. Although it has been closed, this vandal has been making very similar edits to the ones shown in the case. See these. (, ). I highly suspect that the vandal is creating multiple accounts to vandalize Misplaced Pages to evade their block. ''']''' <sub>(] / ])</sub> 04:42, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

== New sock of VJ-Yugo ==

Hi Bbb23. was created less than 24 hours ago, and is editing exactly the same articles edited by some of latest socks of VJ-Yugo, making the same changes. For example vs and vs vs . His first edit was on an article related to the war in Syria, a preferred topic of VJ-Yugo. ] (]) 09:10, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
:{{tpw|safe=yes}} blocked. Note I blocked {{user|Neva Agin}} yesterday. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 11:02, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
::{{re|Ivanvector}} Thanks. The case of the account you blocked yesterday is interesting, VJ-Yugo was following me around a year or so ago. He might try to follow you around now. ] (]) 12:23, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
:::{{re|Ktrimi991}} yeah, he has been. He's not very good at it. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 16:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for your help on the ]. That was great cross-wiki cooperation, if I do say so myself. --] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 16:17, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

== Sock Puppet ==

I think it's important that I tell an administrator this, a '''sock puppet''' is vandalizing pages simply because I or another user '''undo''' there edits and now they want to get back at that person. I believe this is the same person who kept vandalizing the Virtua Fighter 5 ‎page from 2017 and did so recently.

I think this is all the same person or has a friend helping.
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] (]) 21:50, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
:You picked the wrong administrator.--] (]) 22:15, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

== Couple of comments ==

Hi Bbb23 and thanks for taking the trouble to comment on . I thought I would give you the opportunity to review a couple of things you said there. Firstly, {{tq|I believe the only reason John objects to the reinstated material was because it cited ''The Daily Mirror''}} is puzzling; the material in question was sourced to the ], not the ''Mirror''. Secondly, the part {{tq|John decided a long time ago that citations to the Mirror are not permitted under any circumstances in a BLP article.}} is not just factually incorrect (you again name the wrong tabloid newspaper) but by making a statement about what you think my motivations are, I think you are getting towards ] territory. I would be grateful if you would restrict yourself in future to describing (accurately, if possible) my ''behaviour'' which you find objectionable, which is objectively observable, rather than your ideas about my ''motives'', which are perhaps more a matter for me. Additionally, while I have a fairly thick skin for personal insults, I'd ask you to review your choice of words . I'm sure, like all human beings, I have my ] moments, but I honestly don't think this was one of them. In any case, I've found that using language like this will often raise the temperature of a discussion without producing a corresponding increase in light or solubility. All the best, --] (]) 12:46, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks for your {{tq|in retrospect I probably shouldn't have either}}, that was decent of you. If I may, I'd like to challenge you also on {{tq|John decided a long time ago that citations to the <s>Mirror</s> Daily Mail are not permitted under any circumstances in a BLP article. His rigid view has not been accepted by many editors.}} I certainly do not think my view on this is in any way exceptional; a ] concluded a year ago that {{tq|Consensus has determined that the Daily Mail (including its online version, dailymail.co.uk) is generally unreliable, and '''its use as a reference is to be generally prohibited''', especially when other more reliable sources exist. As a result, the Daily Mail should not be used for determining notability, '''nor should it be used as a source in articles'''.... There are multiple thousands of existing citations to the Daily Mail. '''Volunteers are encouraged to review them, and remove/replace them as appropriate.'''}} (my emphasis) We also have a core policy, WP:BLP, which states {{tq|This policy extends that principle, adding that contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussion. This applies whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable, and whether it is in a biography or in some other article. '''Material should not be added to an article when the only sourcing is tabloid journalism.''' When material is both verifiable and noteworthy, it will have appeared in more reliable sources.}} (my emphasis) If I am out of line in reading these two very firm longstanding consensuses and concluding that was a terrible edit, even with ] arguably behind it, then I still do not see it. I am perfectly ready to accept critique on the way I delivered the message, but I stand utterly by my judgement that the edit was unacceptable. Thoughts? --] (]) 16:14, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

== You what? ==

You deleted the page "You what?", citing G3. I looked into G3, and it describes:

''"pages that are blatant and obvious misinformation, blatant hoaxes (including images intended to misinform), and redirects created by cleanup from page-move vandalism"''

My page did not contain vandalism, or hoaxes. The phrase "you what?" is not a hoax. It is frequently used in a similar way to pardon.
--] (]) 17:10, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

== Spot on ==

is a perfect summary. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:35, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

== Evangeline Paterson ==


:{{Ping|Bbb23}} Hi, sorry to bother you. Could you clarify what "refactoring" were you referring to, and how that meets the requirements at ]: {{tqq|continued abuse of their user talk page, or when the user has engaged in serious threats, accusations, or attempts at outing that must be prevented from re-occurring}}? Thanks. ] (]) 12:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello. Why is Evangeline Paterson not a credible author?
::IIRC, the trigger for revoking TPA was when the user altered a declined unblock request.--] (]) 13:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
It seems silly to keep removing good articles from Misplaced Pages. Deleting, is unnecessary pruning. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:54, 28 April 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{tps}}Articles about living persons must have ], for which Amazon notoriously does not quality, not even as an assertion that such a person exists. Having something nominally available on Amazon, like having a song available on iTunes, does not constitute a claim to anything, least of all notability. See ] for guidance as to what is a notable writer. --] &#124; ] 00:04, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


::I explained what occurred on my talk page under the "Refactoring" section, but basically I replied to Asilvering's rejection of the unblock request, but I couldn't use reply buttons while I was blocked so I didn't know replying directly to the rejection reason was not normally allowed.


::https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Isonomia01#c-Isonomia01-20241222071600-Fourth_Third_Unblock_Request_(last_one_was_incorrectly_formatted)
I can't agree with your opinion or that link. Excluding non-mainstream authors is a terrible policy because it only focuses attention on market leading authors. Why not take up the cause to correct the mistakes of this at Misplaced Pages? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:46, 29 April 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


::] (]) 15:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Just look up the ISBNs
{{Abot}}


== Ask for clarification on deleted page of Geert Claessens ==
Paperback: 59 pages
Publisher: Dedalus Press (22 Jun. 1998)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1873790643
ISBN-13: 978-1873790649


Dear Sir,


I noticed that the page Geert Claessens was deleted. I was still editing it in my sandbox and was in the process of adding external references to the text to underpin what was written. Kindly ask why it was already deleted. Thank you for your clarifications. ] (]) 22:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Paperback: 47 pages
Publisher: Other Poetry; First Edition edition (1991)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 090714909X
ISBN-13: 978-0907149095 <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:48, 29 April 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:{{tpw}}The link is ]. ] (]) 22:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
== Sockpuppet confirmed? ==
:I deleted it because it was blatantly promotional. Looks like you have a ] with the subject. What is your relationship to him?--] (]) 13:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
::Dear Sir, always ready to take advice on how to write this. I am his younger brother, but wanted clearly to add all the necessary references and have it as factual page. He (Geert) died 2 years ago and i wanted to get a digital trace of him and his carreer as a classical guitar player, no itention to have a promotional page. I also have newspaper articles on him, but they are dating from a while back and so they need to be scaned. How can i include them as a reference ? Thank you for your opinion and time. Kr, Kris. ] (]) 16:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::First, you need to declare your conflict of interest following the procedures in ]. Second, the problem isn't your "intention" but the language you use in drafting a page for your brother; it must be neutral and encyclopedic. Many people who have no experience with Misplaced Pages have trouble drafting new articles that comply with our guidelines. Third, you would be better writing an article in ], not your sandbox, and using ]. You will then get feedback from experienced users. As far as citing newspaper articles, please ask about that and any other things I've mentioned at the ]. As an administrator, my primary job is to prevent disruption, even if unintentional, to Misplaced Pages, not to mentor new editors. Good luck.--] (]) 17:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)


==Renewed edit warring==
Hello, I'm Horus from Thai Misplaced Pages. I'm currently summarizing ] of a puppeteer, and evidently his actions can be found in English Misplaced Pages as well. I've seen that many accounts were blocked with Checkuser template on but I can't found the investigation anywhere. So I would like to have a confirmation that:
# {{User|Choccobkk}}
# {{User|Anybodyfitfit}}
# {{User|Phudthammai}}
# {{User|Happynaturist}}
# {{User|Humhom}}
# {{User|Khalummoi}}
# {{User|Golf-ben1010}}
# {{User|Alexioo}}
# {{User|Itipisox}}
are the same person. Thanks. --] (]) 08:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
:See ].--] (]) 13:33, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
:: Sorry to ask again, but I saw ] and ]. I can't found any pages that are specific and the blocking reason given by various admin also not helping much. So all of these are the related, yes? --] (]) 18:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
:::Heh, you're more on top of this than I am.{{smiley}} The Choccobkk socks were blocked by me in the summer of 2017 without an SPI ever being filed. Many of the Golf-ben10 socks are also blocked without being noted at the SPI. In any event, all the socks I've blocked are related. I can't speak for ones I haven't confirmed. The Golf-ben10 case should probably be moved to Choccobkk because that account is older.--] (]) 18:53, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
:::: Thanks --] (]) 19:30, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


You blocked Rueben lys for edit warring in July 2024. He has now returned to Misplaced Pages and his only edit is to resume that edit war. ] (]) 05:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
== Help ==
:That's a very long gap. If they revert again, let me know.--] (]) 13:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
==CU request==
Hi. Sorry, I'm not familiar with the procedures. Shouldn't be considered a potential block evasion and warrant another CU request ? I'm also wondering if the main account has also been blocked or just the IP. Thanks. ] (]) 16:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:The named account has not been blocked. I blocked an IP range. I reverted your edits to the report for several reasons. First, you repeated the range I'd already blocked. Second, you incorrectly added a new report or you attempted to edit an already-closed report. If you want to add a new report, you must follow the instructions at SPI to do so. Third, do not request a CU when you are reporting IPs; connecting a named account with IPs is a violation of privacy and will not be run. Finally, don't bother adding the single IP in a new report. One edit a few days ago is not worth bothering with.--] (]) 16:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::Ok, fine, as I said above I'm not familiar with these things. Thanks, ] (]) 16:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! ==
Can you take a look into this account: {{noping|Tustrazara}}? It was registered today and immediately made two controversial edits in two articles with long-standing disputes. It is unusual for new editor. '''] ]''' 11:07, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
:Based on the limited technical data, there is no evidence of socking.--] (]) 14:04, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


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== Olonia sockpuppets==
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This guy (]) is persisting in vandalizing the same page - ]. He continues to use different accounts, most recently ] and ]. This clearly qualifies for ] and ]. Not sure what can be done, can you at least protect the page for extended period of time perhaps? maybe he'll come to his senses and gets on with his life? Can you also revert to previous edit, or should I do this? Thanks. ] (]) 22:13, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Original Barnstar'''
:Account blocked, article semi-protected three months, sock reverted.--] (]) 23:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Happy New Year, Bbb23! In 2024, other editors thanked you using the ] on the English Misplaced Pages. This made you the '''#8 most thanked Wikipedian in 2024'''. Congratulations and, well, ''thank you'' for all that you do for Misplaced Pages. Here's to 2025! ] (]) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Umm, I had no idea. I have notifications for Thanks turned off globally. I should also add that I'm surprised. I ''do'' appreciate your thanks, though, and a Happy New Year to you, too. Be safe tonight.--] (]) 19:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::It only stops you from ''receiving'' thanks; it doesn't stop people from thanking you. But they won't know that you didn't see the thanks. See . --] &#x1F98C; (]) 01:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I know that. I just don't think of myself as an editor who would get thanked a lot. I ''do'' have one question: is there any way to look now and see what edit an editor thanked me for? I don't see any way to do that on the thank log. I'm just curious.--] (]) 01:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::It's not in the thank log; it's only in the "in-tray" or "TV set" icon at the top (to the right of the bell icon). But that only shows the 25 most recent events that come within that icon; most will be thanks, but some will be other actions - such as when you ] somebody. So for myself, the list shows 25 events in the last 6 days of which 13 are mentions and 12 are where somebody else thanked me. If I click on one of those 12, I can see which edit (or loggable action, such as a block, delete or protection) that I was being thanked for, but once they are pushed out of the 25 by more recent events, the information is no longer retrievable. So checking out 1150 thanks is a long way from being possible. --] &#x1F98C; (]) 02:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Heh, I wasn't going to check all 1150 entries, god help me, just a few out of curiosity, but it looks to me like even the recent thanks listed in the log don't show up when I click on the TV set icon; maybe that works only if you have thanks notifications turned on.--] (]) 02:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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Notice of noticeboard discussion

This discussion is closed.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrative action review regarding an action which you performed. The thread is I just followed the instructions on https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrative_action_review and it listed the request for Administrator Action Review on that page. This is with regard to you blocking me over what I perceive as a content dispute, your refusal to discuss matters or comply with Misplaced Pages's principles even on request, your revocation of TPA, and disparaging statements / personal attacks (from my perspective) you made during content consensus discussion and on my talk page.. Thank you. Isonomia01 (talk) 16:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bbb23: Hi, sorry to bother you. Could you clarify what "refactoring" were you referring to, and how that meets the requirements at WP:TPA: continued abuse of their user talk page, or when the user has engaged in serious threats, accusations, or attempts at outing that must be prevented from re-occurring? Thanks. Kovcszaln6 (talk) 12:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
IIRC, the trigger for revoking TPA was when the user altered a declined unblock request.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
I explained what occurred on my talk page under the "Refactoring" section, but basically I replied to Asilvering's rejection of the unblock request, but I couldn't use reply buttons while I was blocked so I didn't know replying directly to the rejection reason was not normally allowed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Isonomia01#c-Isonomia01-20241222071600-Fourth_Third_Unblock_Request_(last_one_was_incorrectly_formatted)
Isonomia01 (talk) 15:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Ask for clarification on deleted page of Geert Claessens

Dear Sir,

I noticed that the page Geert Claessens was deleted. I was still editing it in my sandbox and was in the process of adding external references to the text to underpin what was written. Kindly ask why it was already deleted. Thank you for your clarifications. Claessenskris (talk) 22:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)The link is User:Claessenskris/sandbox . -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
I deleted it because it was blatantly promotional. Looks like you have a conflict of interest with the subject. What is your relationship to him?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Dear Sir, always ready to take advice on how to write this. I am his younger brother, but wanted clearly to add all the necessary references and have it as factual page. He (Geert) died 2 years ago and i wanted to get a digital trace of him and his carreer as a classical guitar player, no itention to have a promotional page. I also have newspaper articles on him, but they are dating from a while back and so they need to be scaned. How can i include them as a reference ? Thank you for your opinion and time. Kr, Kris. Claessenskris (talk) 16:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
First, you need to declare your conflict of interest following the procedures in WP:COI. Second, the problem isn't your "intention" but the language you use in drafting a page for your brother; it must be neutral and encyclopedic. Many people who have no experience with Misplaced Pages have trouble drafting new articles that comply with our guidelines. Third, you would be better writing an article in draft space, not your sandbox, and using WP:AFC. You will then get feedback from experienced users. As far as citing newspaper articles, please ask about that and any other things I've mentioned at the WP:Teahouse. As an administrator, my primary job is to prevent disruption, even if unintentional, to Misplaced Pages, not to mentor new editors. Good luck.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Renewed edit warring

You blocked Rueben lys for edit warring in July 2024. He has now returned to Misplaced Pages and his only edit is to resume that edit war. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 05:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

That's a very long gap. If they revert again, let me know.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

CU request

Hi. Sorry, I'm not familiar with the procedures. Shouldn't this be considered a potential block evasion and warrant another CU request ? I'm also wondering if the main account has also been blocked or just the IP. Thanks. Psychloppos (talk) 16:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

The named account has not been blocked. I blocked an IP range. I reverted your edits to the report for several reasons. First, you repeated the range I'd already blocked. Second, you incorrectly added a new report or you attempted to edit an already-closed report. If you want to add a new report, you must follow the instructions at SPI to do so. Third, do not request a CU when you are reporting IPs; connecting a named account with IPs is a violation of privacy and will not be run. Finally, don't bother adding the single IP in a new report. One edit a few days ago is not worth bothering with.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Ok, fine, as I said above I'm not familiar with these things. Thanks, Psychloppos (talk) 16:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Happy New Year, Bbb23! In 2024, other editors thanked you 1150 times using the thanks tool on the English Misplaced Pages. This made you the #8 most thanked Wikipedian in 2024. Congratulations and, well, thank you for all that you do for Misplaced Pages. Here's to 2025! Mz7 (talk) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Umm, I had no idea. I have notifications for Thanks turned off globally. I should also add that I'm surprised. I do appreciate your thanks, though, and a Happy New Year to you, too. Be safe tonight.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
It only stops you from receiving thanks; it doesn't stop people from thanking you. But they won't know that you didn't see the thanks. See thanks log. --Redrose64 🦌 (talk) 01:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
I know that. I just don't think of myself as an editor who would get thanked a lot. I do have one question: is there any way to look now and see what edit an editor thanked me for? I don't see any way to do that on the thank log. I'm just curious.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
It's not in the thank log; it's only in the "in-tray" or "TV set" icon at the top (to the right of the bell icon). But that only shows the 25 most recent events that come within that icon; most will be thanks, but some will be other actions - such as when you WP:MENTION somebody. So for myself, the list shows 25 events in the last 6 days of which 13 are mentions and 12 are where somebody else thanked me. If I click on one of those 12, I can see which edit (or loggable action, such as a block, delete or protection) that I was being thanked for, but once they are pushed out of the 25 by more recent events, the information is no longer retrievable. So checking out 1150 thanks is a long way from being possible. --Redrose64 🦌 (talk) 02:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Heh, I wasn't going to check all 1150 entries, god help me, just a few out of curiosity, but it looks to me like even the recent thanks listed in the log don't show up when I click on the TV set icon; maybe that works only if you have thanks notifications turned on.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)