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| ===12 May 2018=== | |||
| {{SPI case status|}} | |||
| ====Suspected sockpuppets==== | |||
| * {{checkuser|1=JosephusOfJerusalem}} | |||
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| Today JosephusOfJerusalem filed two reports on ] against long-term established editors, the style of reporting multiple users to ARE is strongly reminiscent of Sardeeph who also had filed similar spurious reports against me and {{U|Kautilya3}} on the same day at ARE, not too long ago. | |||
| Sardeeph was eventually blocked by {{U| Boing! said Zebedee}} and {{U|Black Kite}} for ] after a long ] thread that he had himself started and cited same type of evidence that JosephusOfJerusalem has cited on ARE, as well as attempted to canvass dozens of editors just like JosephusOfJerusalem is doing on WP:ARE at this moment. | |||
| Sardeeph was indeffed on 20 October 2017. JosephusOfJerusalem registered on 18 October but made his first article space edit on 31 October. It's also worth mentioning that Sardeeph had made ''only'' '''35 edits'''. | |||
| *Sardeeph filed two ARE reports against me and Kautilya3 on 30 July 2017. | |||
| *And today, JosephusOfJerusalem filed two ARE reports against {{U|Capitals00}} and {{U|D4iNa4}}. | |||
| *The notification left by JosephusOfJerusalem and Sardeeph are also same: | |||
| ::{{tq|There is a discussion about your behaviour at ].}} | |||
| ::{{tq| Please see ] for discussion about your behavior.}} | |||
| *Also note that they both mention socking history of editors in their reports: | |||
| ::Sardeeph: {{tq|User has an extensive block history over edit wars and socking.}} | |||
| ::JosephusOfJerusalem: {{tq|A history of sockpuppetry.}} | |||
| *Both cites ]. | |||
| *Both filed frivolous complaints against Kautilya3 for getting him blocked. | |||
| *Both shares the same feuds with Kautilya3. | |||
| *Same WikiLawyering on edit summaries. | |||
| Same style of composing sentences: | |||
| *"message '''there needs to be a''' more solid reason" | |||
| :"pulls '''there needs to be a''' paragraph" | |||
| *"'''reach a conclusion not stated in either'''" | |||
| :"'''implying a conclusion not supported in any'''" | |||
| *"'''stick to policy based arguments rather'''" | |||
| :"'''also have more policy based arguments'''" | |||
| *"'''It strengthens my view'''" | |||
| :"'''strengthens my case against'''" | |||
| *"'''It does not matter how many'''" | |||
| :"'''it does not matter what'''" | |||
| *"'''I am afraid there is'''" | |||
| :"'''I am afraid these prejudices'''" | |||
| *"'''been here for a long time and requires'''" | |||
| :"'''observer for a long time nevertheless'''" | |||
| *"'''fit into the article'''" | |||
| :"'''add them into the article'''" | |||
| *"'''this comment is opinion'''" | |||
| :"'''this comment is particularly telling'''" | |||
| {{Megaphoneduck}}. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:38, 12 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| Except the convincing evidence above, I have found some more similarities that cannot be found in anyone else: | |||
| *After seeing opposition, he alleges the involved established editors of being "'''close'''" to each other:- | |||
| :*JOJ: "MBlaze Lightning as I said is very '''close''' to Capitals00" | |||
| :*Sardeeph: " these users to each other (Vanamode and Joshua and Kautilya). Their talk page histories reveal a great deal of '''close'''ness to each other" | |||
| *Canvasses admins he believes handled a "'''similar'''" case before:- | |||
| :*JOJ: "I am going to invite administrator Sandstein who to take a survey of these cases." | |||
| :*Sardeeph: "I am pinging Spartaz and Salvio Giuliano who have experience with blocking a '''similar''' India POV pusher Mrt3366." | |||
| *Tries to boast that opposition against Kautilya3 apparently exist:- | |||
| :*JOJ "shows is that many people have disputes with Kautilya3" | |||
| :*Sardeeph: "other editors have found the same problems with Kautilya3" | |||
| *Claims other editors are engaging in "tendentious editing" while filing report against them. | |||
| :*And usual claims of others engaging in "tendentious editing" around. | |||
| This is a clear case of ]. ] (]) 05:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ====<big>Comments by other users</big>==== | |||
| <small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See ].''</small> | |||
| {{od}}This is a spurious report, a weaponisation, if I may say so, of SPI to derail the ] threads about the rude language and behaviour of Capitals00 and D4iNa4, users who are close to the filer. The reason I opened two threads is because the behavioural problems of both Capitals00 and D4iNa4 are ''identical''. It is also worth mentioning here that D4iNa4 has even been under the of Capitals00. The SPI found them technically 'unlikely', yet the evidence of coordination was noted by the users. | |||
| MBlaze Lightning as I said is very close to Capitals00 and there is plenty in the way of evidence of their ]. As a small example I will cite these diffs of both Capitals00 and MBlaze Lightning reverting text on Mridu Rai against ], with deeply patronising edit summaries by both. A of ] shows that neither of the two users had much participation in the discussions except for fleeting statements. Yet both coordinated in the removal of the same content with a similar behaviour. | |||
| I also had warned Capitals00 that I would take him to ] because of his behaviour. I did not take him there straight away, as this Sardeeph appears to have done, but gave an ample number of warnings over time.. So you cannot use my simple filing of AE threads about Capitals00 as proof. | |||
| You also bring up Kautilya3's history to make your case. Kautilya3 has disputes with many users, being a recent example. Interesting to read is that user's own admission of "Yes, Fowler and I have argued many times, and will probably continue to argue. But that is my battle and it doesn't concern you." A search through records also reveal that other users have filed SPI claiming a link Kautilya3 and MBlaze Lightning. Of course I do not endorse this but what all this shows is that many people have disputes with Kautilya3 so just because 2 people have disputes with Kautilya3 does not mean they are the same persons. | |||
| The rest of the case is based on linguistic analysis but I do not see language similarities. Different language structures have been shown and are being passed off as "similar." These phrases ("there needs to be", "policy based", "strengthens my argument") are commonly used in the English language and across the encyclopedia. , covering MBlaze Lightning's linguistic match with Spartucus, is far more convincing and precise, yet was ignored. | |||
| Going through Sardeeph's ANI thread I found significant differences between me and Sardeeph. | |||
| Sardeeph uses ' ' or a single ', but I use " for my speech marks. Sardeeph puts 2 brackets for internal wiki links, I use one bracket and prefer to incorporate diffs into my texts. | |||
| It is also worth noting that closer to October MBlaze Lightning supported a frivolous SPI against me, . He seems unable to decide whose so-called "sock" I am. MBlaze Lightning filed another frivolous report, based on alleged behavioural similarities, against {{U|KA$HMIR}}, . The frivolity of these constant reports calls for a ]. | |||
| I would recommend an immediate closure of this purely retaliatory SPI. ] (]) 21:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::'''Note to adminitrators''' compare this SPI to the one the filer . Each of these look like ducks to him. Aside from that he trails my edits. Would recommend he be put on restriction when filing SPIs.--] (]) 22:00, 12 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :::Because if he was wrong once, he will certainly be wrong every other time? ] (]) 04:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
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