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	==Shrink down your picture==		==Shrink down your picture==
	The picture you added takes up too much space, shrink it down or you will need to use { { - } } marks. But by all means add it in if it is an real picture. Since your are a photographer maybe you can help add in pictures to other politicans because I have trouble getting them for many pages I edited. Just wanted to make sure you were not an vandal because there was a lots of vandalsim on pages by random ip adress users.		The picture you added takes up too much space, shrink it down or you will need to use { { - } } marks. But by all means add it in if it is an real picture. Since your are a photographer maybe you can help add in pictures to other politicans because I have trouble getting them for many pages I edited. Just wanted to make sure you were not an vandal because there was a lots of vandalsim on pages by random ip adress users.]
			::You can shrink down your picture and up load a new one (check in file history of your file). Someone also needs to find out when he is born and where in guangdong he came from.]
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	Cs_California,
	Yes, it is a real picture, my own work, with varification given to the wikipedia. As to the current picture my understanding is that we can not lift pictures, even from their public pages as all have copy rights on them. Thus, the reason that the wikipedia folks remove them. You have to provide them with the information as to the source and one can't provide others work.
	Regards,
	] 02:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
	You can shrink down your picture and up load a new one (check in file history of your file). Someone also needs to find out when he is born and where in guangdong he came from.
	]
	==Problematic Biased Input Response==		==Problematic Biased Input Response==
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	Your link were listed in an unorganized manner displaying the adresses check links on other politican cites they were all organized		Your link were listed in an unorganized manner displaying the adresses check links on other politican cites they were all organized
	History page of leland yee articles:		History page of leland yee articles:
	* http://news.asianweek.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=3321133d76a4fdf39bab8c50fcf7a0c6 Death Threats Over Video Games		* Death Threats Over Video Games
	* http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/e/a/1998/03/31/NEWS16011.dtl&hw=Leland+Yee&sn=058&sc=309 Supervisor Yee's plan includes ban on new ventures in the Tenderloin, March 31, 1998		* Supervisor Yee's plan includes ban on new ventures in the Tenderloin, March 31, 1998
	* http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/2005/02/22/gta_killers/index.html Salon.com, Grand Death Auto		*,Grand Death Auto
	* http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=16707 Suit tying video game to murders may proceed		* Suit tying video game to murders may proceed
	* http://www.safegamesillinois.org/media/releases/Tuscaloosa%20News%202_16_05.pdf Violent video game blamed for deaths		* Violent video game blamed for deaths, Matier and Ross
	* Matier and Ross
	"By all the useless re-arranging you make it hard for people to research and cause some delay in accessing said information." (]) '''How do people find stuff if it is unorganized?'''		"By all the useless re-arranging you make it hard for people to research and cause some delay in accessing said information." (]) '''How do people find stuff if it is unorganized?'''
	You mentioned:		You mentioned:
	* Police and parent groups are concerned about violent video games causing children to be desensitized to violence. '''(why are you talking about parents when the article relates to Leland Yee?)''' They also '''believe''' that the video makers should be held accountable in these type of crimes. Others '''believe''' it is not the direct cause of the violence. '''(you indicated believed twice which is not factual. Why are they included. It still is unrelated to the main article leland yee. We are not writing about the relations between video games and desensitizing children)''' Both of Yee's bills passed with a wide support due in part by all the media attention and support by parents.'''(this last sentance should be added to the point with bill 1792)'''		* Police and parent groups are concerned about violent video games causing children to be desensitized to violence. '''(why are you talking about parents when the article relates to Leland Yee?)''' They also '''believe''' that the video makers should be held accountable in these type of crimes. Others '''believe''' it is not the direct cause of the violence. '''(you indicated believed twice which is not factual. Why are they included. It still is unrelated to the main article leland yee. We are not writing about the relations between video games and desensitizing children)''' Both of Yee's bills passed with a wide support due in part by all the media attention and support by parents.'''(this last sentance should be added to the point with bill 1792)'''
	'''Note that the bottem two points can be combined because they relate to Bill 1792 & 1793. Why was the combination reverted???''' Death threats is a minor aspect and should be combined.		'''Note that the bottem two points can be combined because they relate to Bill 1792 & 1793. Why was the combination reverted???''' Death threats is a minor aspect and should be combined.
	* Yee is the author of California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793, which was signed into law on October 7, 2005, which would prohibit the sales of "ultra-violent" games in California to persons under the age of eighteen. Judge Ronald Whyte issued a preliminary injunction against the law on December 22 2005. Judge Whyte will soon deliver his final opinion on the constitutionality of California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793		* Yee is the author of California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793, which was signed into law on October 7, 2005, which would prohibit the sales of "ultra-violent" games in California to persons under the age of eighteen. Judge Ronald Whyte issued a preliminary injunction against the law on December 22 2005. Judge Whyte will soon deliver his final opinion on the constitutionality of California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793
	* Yee received death threat as a result of authoring Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793.		* Yee received death threat as a result of authoring Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793.
	*Why were these point made significant since the article should be '''factual'''?		*Why were these point made significant since the article should be '''factual'''?
	*Points I made still incorporated the '''non-bias''' information provided?		*Points I made still incorporated the '''non-bias''' information provided?
	'''Point 7 The photo you uploaded has been removed on two occasions by the wiki folks...see your talk page because you do not cite the source.'''		'''Point 7 The photo you uploaded has been removed on two occasions by the wiki folks...see your talk page because you do not cite the source.'''
	Which wiki folks removed this check history! the only people who modify it are not even members of wikipedia.		Which wiki folks removed this check history! the only people who modify it are not even members of wikipedia.
	I have been modifying this page since 06:18, 30 May 2006 (check history) and the picture only has been taken off by non wikipedia users.		I have been modifying this page since 06:18, 30 May 2006 (check history) and the picture only has been taken off by non wikipedia users.
	The picture sent in by ] does not cite the source either.		The picture sent in by ] does not cite the source either.
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	You wrote:		You wrote:
	* Finance Committee, he championed fiscal responsibility and accountability and established the largest "Rainy Day" budget reserve in San Francisco's history. '''Yee'''		* Finance Committee, he championed fiscal responsibility and accountability and established the largest "Rainy Day" budget reserve in San Francisco's history. '''Yee'''
	Why start an new sentance with just yee and not finish it? Everyone makes mistakes just fix it and indicate that it is an minor edit. You dont have to wine about spelling when it is such an minor issue.		Why start an new sentance with just yee and not finish it? Everyone makes mistakes just fix it and indicate that it is an minor edit. You dont have to wine about spelling when it is such an minor issue.
	It seems like you copied this information through cutting and pasting.		It seems like you copied this information through cutting and pasting.
	It is not problematic if you can easily change it and write bias information read articles linked.		It is not problematic if you can easily change it and write bias information read articles linked.
			I don't know why you have to make such a big deal about such a small problem]
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	I don't know why you have to make such a big deal about such a small problem
			#Click on the redlinks for the non-existent article here: ].
			#Then, in the first line of that new article, insert this code: <nowiki>#redirect]</nowiki>
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			#Click "save", and that should do it! ], Thanks:-)] 18:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
			*Tutorial Help
	Cs_California,
			"name" your citations. For example, I name mine usually by the last name of the author - like <nowiki><ref name="Talkabout"></ref></nowiki>, and the citation itself would go inside as normal. Then, to repeat it, you just would use: <nowiki><ref name="Talkabout" /></nowiki> - with no closing "<nowiki></ref></nowiki>". Make sense?], Thanks:-)TalkAbout
			=== Signing in Wikistyle and use of links ===
	My intentions were not to make such a big deal, it was simply just to make it workable and functional. If I have offended you I am sorry.
	As to the source of the picture submitted. The source was provided to the wikipedia...
	I have a hobby of photographing politicians and so I have a wide array of photos that are my own work. I have many of former Governors, congressman/woman, State Senators, State Assemblymen/women etc.
	My hobby has close to 20 years of interest in politics and how they influence our society and global society at large. We are a more global community today than at any other time in history. Information is a valuable tool and sharing information is a key to communication.
	Regards,
	] 02:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
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	Vandalism and 3RR policy		Vandalism and 3RR policy
	It might serve you to read up on some of the official policies of the Misplaced Pages such as the Three-revert rule (or 3RR) and the processes by which to report vandalism or rouge users/IP address to the admins, e.g. Requests_for_investigation.		It might serve you to read up on some of the official policies of the Misplaced Pages such as the Three-revert rule (or 3RR) and the processes by which to report vandalism or rouge users/IP address to the admins, e.g. Requests_for_investigation.
			If you do enough good work and contributions, you can asked to bemade an admin which gives you more power to protect the Wiki and defend it against vandals.Good luck. ] 14:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
	* http://en.wikipedia.org/3RR
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	* http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_investigation
	If you do enough good work and contributions, you can asked to bemade an admin which gives you more power to protect the Wiki and defend it against vandals.
	Good luck. ] 14:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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	It is convetion that each new contributor indents their contribution to a discussion to make it easier to read and see where one finishes and the next starts.		It is convetion that each new contributor indents their contribution to a discussion to make it easier to read and see where one finishes and the next starts.
	Thanks. ] 14:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)		Thanks. ] 14:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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	* Headings don't use brackets.		* Headings don't use brackets.
	* If you use brackets to link to topics with no pages, learn how to make new pages.		* If you use brackets to link to topics with no pages, learn how to make new pages.
			* Check to see if singular nouns already have a page, it is not necessary to make new pages for plurals as well. Learn how to make a link from a word to a slightly different equivalent topic.] 10:30, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
	* Check to see if singular nouns already have a page, it is not necessary to make new pages for plurals as well. Learn how to make a link from a word to a slightly different equivalent topic.
	] 10:30, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
	Sorry Stanger195.82.106.244|195.82.106.244,		Sorry Stanger195.82.106.244|195.82.106.244,
	I don't know how to reply so I gather you have access here some how?		I don't know how to reply so I gather you have access here some how?
	Sincerely,		Sincerely,
	] 01:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)		] 01:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
			Hi,
	== Learn the Wiki ==
	Hi
	learn how to use the Wiki. Read the manual and guidelines.		learn how to use the Wiki. Read the manual and guidelines.
	When reverting an article '''state''' that you are reverting and to which version. By doing so, you establish the pattern which makes it easier for the admins to decide who is right and who is doing wrong. Likewise if making an edit, state what the edit is in a brief impersonal manner, in the window provided for doing so, so that others know what you have done.		When reverting an article '''state''' that you are reverting and to which version. By doing so, you establish the pattern which makes it easier for the admins to decide who is right and who is doing wrong. Likewise if making an edit, state what the edit is in a brief impersonal manner, in the window provided for doing so, so that others know what you have done.
			Thank you.] 21:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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			: (a) Try and find sources for the claims made; (b) if you cannot find sources, mark it as {{tl|fact}}; (c) after waiting some time (discretionary), delete and move to talk. That is more or less the way I would do it. But there is no explicit policy that dictates that in that manner. ] <small>]</small> 18:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
	Thank you.
	] 21:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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	It would appear that he wants some thing removed. I can't seem to find it, but will remove what I do find. Now here is the problem: This fellow has been placing others information up too. It all started with him sussing someone and coming on the wiki to complain about a forum. Now, I don't know how to go about this, nor am I authorized to removed it permanently. Any help/advice you can offer whould be most appriciated. TalkAbout 05:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)		It would appear that he wants some thing removed. I can't seem to find it, but will remove what I do find. Now here is the problem: This fellow has been placing others information up too. It all started with him sussing someone and coming on the wiki to complain about a forum. Now, I don't know how to go about this, nor am I authorized to removed it permanently. Any help/advice you can offer whould be most appriciated. TalkAbout 05:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
	:I'm not really sure what you're asking. I can suggest, though, that you try ], which will perhaps help clear things up. If you need an article to be deleted, you can look at ] for information. Good luck! Replace the <nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki> template if you need additional help. —<font color="8100b4">]</font><font color="2f690d">]</font><font color="8100b4">]</font> 05:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)		:I'm not really sure what you're asking. I can suggest, though, that you try ], which will perhaps help clear things up. If you need an article to be deleted, you can look at ] for information. Good luck! Replace the <nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki> template if you need additional help. —]]] 05:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
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	:The article is fine, he just wants to turn it into an advertisement for the organisation rather than a neutral informative article. Thanks TalkAbout 06:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)		:The article is fine, he just wants to turn it into an advertisement for the organisation rather than a neutral informative article. Thanks TalkAbout 06:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
	::As Keakealani said, please read and try one of the methods listed at ] if the problem persists. Cheers, ]]] 08:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)		::As Keakealani said, please read and try one of the methods listed at ] if the problem persists. Cheers, ]]] 08:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
			:::I need help with ](Riveros11) that has taken ownership of an article and removed an advertisement tag. Now I don't want to revert because he will state that I am the problem. Please note that the ] article is in arbitration and I have had problems with this editor before on this one article as he is part of the BK IT TEAM. The article currently has a clean up tag due to all his editing and currently he is demanding to know who an editor is before he allows any editing? Can you help! PEACE] 17:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
			::::Cancel the Help...Admin Jossi already assisted. ] 17:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
	==Greetings TalkAbout==		==Greetings TalkAbout==
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	I've noticed that your signature does not seem to be working, where you have to go back and wikify your userid. If you've set this up intentionally, fine. If not, the problem could be that you have "Raw signature" checked on "my preferences" under the "User profile" tab. Unchecking this box should make the software automatically include your userid linked in your signature. &ndash;]]&ndash; 22:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)		I've noticed that your signature does not seem to be working, where you have to go back and wikify your userid. If you've set this up intentionally, fine. If not, the problem could be that you have "Raw signature" checked on "my preferences" under the "User profile" tab. Unchecking this box should make the software automatically include your userid linked in your signature. &ndash;]]&ndash; 22:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
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	*I have changed the formatting of ], so that it can now run down the right side of an article, like ], and virtually all of the other templates within ]. Check it out please and let me know what you think. Yours, ] 23:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC).		*I have changed the formatting of ], so that it can now run down the right side of an article, like ], and virtually all of the other templates within ]. Check it out please and let me know what you think. Yours, ] 23:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC).
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			:Sorry for the delay in replying, been having trouble with my camera memory cards for my projects. Looks great! It is '''Gold'''. PEACE] 18:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
			::I'm currently debating whether to leave Misplaced Pages altogether or simply take a break. I've become disillusioned by all of the personal attacks and overall bad manners by users of opposing POV. Therefore, I would most appreciate it if you would post your opinions/comments on the ] Talk page. Hope you are doing well. Yours, ] 19:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC).
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	Regards ] 04:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)		Regards ] 04:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
			:],
			:Dear Bksimonb, it was ] via an e-mail that said you three were in direct communication and even provided details of your activities. So, given that I see that there is no personal attacks on my part, as I stated prior I was going to be discreet about this, but since you bring it forward I see no need to be. So, perhaps you need to '''State''' in a public way that you do not support sussing people out,tracing IPs, attacking them personally (including starting rumors of others) and that Avyak7] and] are not in direct contact with you or working at your direction. That you do not approve of language that is demeaning, sexually condescending towards '''females''' since you profess that you are a woman run organisation. Even though you acknowledge direct contact with them and offering guidance to them on how not to be banned, you have now established a secondary working relationship group. In any effort it is not a good idea to be in contact with others while trying to remain un soiled by their activities while in '''Official''' capacity of '''] IT team''' as the PR Voice of ].
			:When you came on I had some high hopes of working on a neutral but truthful way. I thought your first posts indicated that the BKWSU was perhaps having some thoughts about the following:
			*Child Abuse
			*Ex-Member attempting ]
			*Ex-Members committing ]
			*Member being asked to break all contact with their families
			*Ex-Members having sever psychological problems due to the '''Tenents'''/'''Teachings'''/'''Indoctrination'''
			*Ex-Members not being offered any ].....
			:That is why I was so happy to address you as I truly sensed that this was the case, which it apparently is not. See, my motivation is seeing all the post problems and the havoc it causes in the lives of the Ex-BKs and their families. From a PR point I say you are loosing some points in the way Avyak7] treated ] as I am sensitive to individuals and on-going issues. So, if you, Riveros (with numerous IPs) and Seachin Man see that I am delicate on how I handle a few....it is because I am aware. Perhaps I am taking on more concern, perhaps some that really should be shouldered by those that told them day after day of '''Destruction''' and of '''jumping off 5 stories to their death if they left'''. If someone such as my self has taken the time, I pose this to you and the organisation: ''Why are you not listening to the cries of those that have served you for years/decades, the children abused while in your care and why have you turned a blind eye and continue said practises?''
			:To call some one '''BROTHER''' or '''SISTER''' is to indicate a bond, a bond that would say that you would carry this individual through times of hardship, to not leave them alone to suffer if it was the system that caused said suffering.
			:Bksimonb why deny the tenets or teachings. Be truthful, be a light of goodness that does not hide the wrongs, be a soul that is loving, as in loving those in need one find the ultimate truth. Do not abandoned nor thrash these brothers/sisters about for wanting to '''WARN''' others of the suffering they have been through or are going through.
			:Humanity is judged by the way we treat our weakest in society.
			:'''So, continue to try and have me banned if that is the only solution you see to hiding the truth.'''
			:In closing I must say one thing since Searchin Man has made it public in reference to the individual and that individual’s spouse. To pose even the question would say that you do not know who some of your most loyal people are. Do a little more reading and you will see the truth in bold print.
			:A lot of what Avyackt7] erased had the citation in the bibliography which you have yet to address.PEACE ] 18:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
			::Dear ],
			::I have no personal interest in whatever email exchange you had with ]. I also don't see it as any concern of yours what communication I have with other editors by email. Other that what I have told you it is our own business who and what we discuss amongst ourselves.
			::Here is a suggestion. If you believe a user has violated Misplaced Pages's policies then use the correct channels to address this. Keep your complaint only to the user concerned. Do not rant and rave on the discussion page of an article. That is for discussing the article only.
			::Most of your response seems to consist of a rant against the organisation and my not addressing the points you raise. Let me make it clear that I am not here to address that. It is beyond the remit of the IT team of an organisation to answer to sensational allegations. I am here to stop the damage the article is causing the organisation by the disinformation and bias it currently consists of. I intend to do this by learning how Misplaced Pages works and bringing the article up to a standard more appropriate for an encyclopedia. I am confident I will achieve this simply by following Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines and taking the sound advice from admins such as ].
			::Also, if you really want to rant about the organisation why not find a more appropriate outlet such as a personal blog? Misplaced Pages is just simply not for that purpose.
			::Finally, as to whether I trying to get you banned, well, that is really in your hands. You always have the option to remain civil and respectful of other editors, their beliefs and their affiliations.
			::Regards ] 06:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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			:::First, Sir I feel personally attacked by this: “Do not rant and rave on the discussion page of an article. That is for discussing the article only." I have been civil to you and your members of the Brahma Kumaris organisation. What I see here is that you are trying to work the system to hide your true practices, to suit your PR needs under a shield of "verifiable" sources approved by your members, while leaving others out that are quite legitimate. The truth cannot be forever shielded in secrecy. ] 21:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
			:::::Not sure if you are still around. I've been away for a while myself. Anyway, you are right that the last remarks I made were a bit harsh and perhaps uncivil. They may not technically break the ] policy but are probably not in the spirit of it. I sincerly appologise for any offense caused. I should have used a more appropriate tone to express my views.
			:::::I am sorry I can not agree with your views about the ] and my affiliation with it but I hope we can put this behind us and proceed with the same mutual regard that we started out with. Regards ] 19:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			It seems the user is moving the bulk of the text to ]. - ]] <sup>]</sup> 05:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			I left a response to your message in the talk page. ] 03:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
			==]==
			Hello,
			An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: ]. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, ]. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, ].
			On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --] 17:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
			==Notes==
			http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=145715950&oldid=145715378
			http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=145715950
			== Vegemite ==
			Yes I heard about that, it is a strange case, the actual FDA regulation stipulates that folic acid <i>must</i> be added to bread and cereals, but recently a few customs officials have started to interpret that as it <i>must not</i> be added to anything else, and have gone so far as to search the baggage of anyone who has an Australian accent (presumably they don't have anything better to look for). So far my illicit Vegemite smuggling ring (one jar in return in return for letting visitors stay with me) has kept me in stock ;)
			Thank you for my cheese, and have a great day :) ] 20:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
			== recent note ==
			hi talkabout,
			What you have bought up has already been sorted out and it was concluded that it was not a personal attack, and any negative results have been rectified. I am no longer involved with wiki content, so any further comment or questions are unlikely to be seen and replied too.
			thank you.
			] 18:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
			==Babb Redemptive encounters==
			I am looking for more references for the article ] and ]. I understand that you may have Babb's book that contains a chapter about Sathya Sai Baba. I would be very happy if you could use it to expand or to reference mentioned articles. I would be even more happier if you could send me excerpts of the article or even a copy of the article. ] 19:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
			:Don't know if I will get into editing Sathya Sai Baba or wait until the arb case is done? :-)20:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
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			For the Arbitration Committee --] 11:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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			An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, ], has been listed at ]. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — ] <small>] ]</small> 03:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)<!-- Template:Idw -->
			:Hi, left a message on your talk page, it is OK to delete.PEACE] 07:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
			==Bustos Media LLC==
			My main criticism of your page are the description of the owners, as the educational details seem resume-like, which is not allowed on wikipedia. If you changed that part it would no longer read like an ad.
			On a side note, there is a certain format that business articles should have that I'm afraid I don't know much about. You may want to consider a layout akin to ] which has the info box to mention notable people in the company.
			I'm afraid I can't offer very much help other than that, as I just patrol new pages. Thanks! ] 18:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
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			::], All items have been fixed. PEACE] 18:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
			:::Thank you for your work. Everything looks fine now. —] (]) 19:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
			== Steve Poizner ==
			I've put in some new section headers that will hopefully make it easier to navigate. Thanks for pointing that out. The infobox was gone before I had ever seen the page, so I don't know what happened to that. ] 05:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
			] is banned for one year for a personal attack which contained a threat against another user . 195.82.106.244 is placed on Probation. He may be banned from editing any article which he disrupts by engaging in aggressive biased editing, especially that relying on inadequately sourced original research. ] is placed on article probation. The principals in this matter are expected to convert the article from its present state based on original research and BK publications to an article containing verifiable information based on reliable third party sources. After a suitable grace period, the state of the article may be evaluated on the motion of any member of the Arbitration Committee and further remedies applied to those editors who continue to edit in an inappropriate manner. Any user may request review by members of the Arbitration Committee. Should any user violate a ban imposed under the terms of this decision, they may be blocked for an appropriate period of time. All blocks to be logged at ].
			For the Arbitration Committee --] 17:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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			*Thanks for the compliment on the list! I hope you feel better soon. Which template are you referring to? ] 16:11, 18 January 2007 (UTC).
			== AfD consensus ==
			Hi. I see you edited the vfd, after it had been closed. I will not remove it, but please refrain from modifying it after the debate is closed, unless you have something important to say. Thank you. ]]]]<sup>(]+]+])</sup> 22:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
			:Someone else removed your comment. At least it's in the edit history. I did not remove it at any point. ]]]]]<sup>(]+]+])</sup> 00:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
			==Thanks for the Barnstar!==
			*Thank you so much! This was unexpected and a real treat, it's been fun learning about the graphic design stuff lately... ] 00:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC).
			==SimonB of Microsoft==
			Actually, if you knew me you'd know how ridiculous the above heading is since I'm actually a keen open source advocate and don't use their OS or other software if I can at all help it. In relation to the thread on the BKWSU talk page I think the example of Microsoft is different since, according to the CNN report, they are actually intending to ''pay'' a blogger to represent them on Misplaced Pages. I have always been clear about who I am and what my conflict of interest is and this is detailed in my statement to Arbitration . And no one's paying me!
			I'm here because the BKWSU article was presenting an aggressive and biased account and obviously we were hearing about it from people. It would be nice if we could have just send an email to Misplaced Pages and ask them to sort it out but I don't think that's how it works here. Look at it from our perspective. What options do we have? Though this is a massive time and energy sink the only option seems to be for someone, namely me, to sign up as an editor and join in the editing process. Fortunately I enjoy it (sometimes) and it is a great opportunity to learn (always) so I take back the "time and energy sink" comment but you can hopefully see what an organisation is potentially lumbered with on account of this wonderful Misplaced Pages thing and some of the editors that frequent it. Now I understand that as an editor with a "conflict of interest" I am "strongly discouraged" from editing the BKWSU article. Well, if I could be assured that a neutral editor ''would'' take up the task to be proactive in challenging poorly sourced, biased or aggressive editing of this an other articles I would gladly take a holiday or contribute to other articles I find interesting (having gone to all the trouble of ''becoming'' an editor and all). However, what I am observing is that only editors with a vested in interest in a topic like the BKWSU are actually prepared to do this. So I guess it's down to me and other concerned editors then. You may call this "whitewash" if you want but you can be darned sure that if there is any way I can challenge what I see as undue weighting, bias or inadequate references against the BKWSU and inappropriate behaviour by opposing editors towards me or the article then be rest assured that challenge I will :-)
			If you feel I am doing something underhand, and, if as you suggest, you have documented this, then by all means raise a request for investigation, or whatever Misplaced Pages procedure you feel is most appropriate to deal with it. In the meantime, is it too much to ask that we keep whatever issues you have with me, or other editors, out of the article discussion pages so that we can concentrate on the article(s)?
			Now I'm asking you, in the interest of fairness, if it is possible that we can work together to create a more balanced article that includes an account of criticism and/or controversies. I wouldn't go as far as to say the article is an advert as such since it doesn't really push anything that I can see (except the CNG project that I only just noticed. Yikes!). However I do take your point about the lack of these sections creating an impression that there is no criticism or controversy. Of course it would have to be NPOV, especially with regards to undue weight . Even the BKWSU's own books such as Adi Dev document the early reactions to the organisation, as do books like "Peace an Purity". Right now I am gathering reliable secondary sources, as I see you have too, but I have to admit that actually ''adding'' content to an article is proving more of a challenge to me, in terms of my research/writing ability, than I thought it would be. I'd be interested to hear where you are up to with this. Not because I think I "OWN" the article or anything but simply to see if it is possible for us to work together in a more relaxed and less confrontational setting.
			Thanks & regards ] 11:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
			:],
			:Listen, please understand that what ever future edits I make, are not personal and that I am just doing the research. If I find some thing of notability I will place that in as well as I do not believe in being one sided. Understand that I am being truthful here. Now as to Avyakt7. I find his attacks very unproductive and his "tone" demeaning. I think he has shown this tactic to work in getting others to give up on editing the article with great success I might say.
			:In addition I would like it if you would stop referring to "gorillas" when addressing me or points about me. If you must know I consider myself bi-racial. So, please take note, refrain from this as I do want to work with you, ],and others in a positive fashion. Keep in mind that ALL people are beautiful and trying to get at them via a racial means is not civil and self degrading of the individual doing it and those they represent!
			:I understand that you are very competent in programming (glad to see you believe in open source) and considered one of the best on the IT TEAM. So, if you profess that it is not a TEAM effort I will note that once again. In the interim, let us clear the slate and begin a new and hopefully some thing can be worked out or at the very least some level of decorum can be gained. PEACE] 19:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
			::Hi Talkabout. Sorry not much time to respond in full right now except to say that ] and ] are two entirely different words with different meanings. No racist connotation at all. By "guerilla tactics" I mean sudden, targeted overwhelming attacks such as the hail of edits we see from 244's sockpuppet ].
			::In accordance with Thatcher131's advice I suggest we work with the article as it is now. No doubt we have widely different POV but I am sure we can work it out with understanding. I hope you don't mind if I start making some bold edits soon since there was quite a bit of carnage last night from our POV ;-)
			Regards ] 13:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
			== BKWSU ==
			Sir,
			I thank you for keeping your comments off my talk page. I have no wish to become involved in whatever nonsense has gone before.
			As you were one of the contributors involved in the edit warring and arbitration case, I am not entirely sure what your opinions are worth and suggest that you take your own advice, helping to move the topic forward by adding your own references and citations.
			] 01:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
			::Some People,
			::That would be fine with me but the article is for all to work on and if you don't want corrections made then add the complete citations not just part and that would solve the problem. In addition I do believe that the committee's resolution is binding on those involved and any that partake currently. See the note above the article. PEACE] 02:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
			==Gavin Newsom==
			The Misplaced Pages doesn't permit people to speculate about posters' identifies on Talk pages. Please refrain from discussing Ragone at Newsom's talk page. It demeans Misplaced Pages. ] 17:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
			===Peter Ragone===
			],
			I wasn't trying to disclose his identity rather pointing out that there was a full article about this in the Chronicle and that he admitted doing this when he is the ''paid spokesman''. I do believe it is against wikipedia policy to have ''paid'' editors here on the articles ala microsoft .Frankly I think the Gavin Newsom article should have a critical section that includes his refusal of meeting with the voters and supervisors, the possible loss of the 49ers and his Chief spokesman's activities. So, I will let you be the judge as to if you believe it merits an entry…. Also, keep in mind this was posted there since 6/2006 and there wasn’t any reprimand on the one that posted it. Only this user got the reprimand since I provided a link to an actual news story on the very subject (I did note wikipedia was not mentioned).
			Possible entry:
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			Newsom's chief spokesman Peter Ragone admitted posting comments on local news-oriented Web sites using the identity of other people.<ref>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/01/BAGB8NSRUC1.DTL</ref>
			:] 21:40, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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			== Aging in place ==
			The only problem you had was with the closing ref tags. They should be <nowiki></ref>, not <ref/></nowiki>. That's what messed with your article. I was about to put a speedy-delete tag on it, but when I opened it up to edit, I saw all that other text and wondered what was wrong. Glad to help. ] 08:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
			*Answered you on my talk page. ] 18:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
			Thanks for the barnstar! It's the first I've received. (I've awarded a few.) ] 04:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
			==SSB template==
			Hi there. Rather than reverting, please discuss your edits on the ]. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an appropriate Manual of Style that we can consult but I've asked some editors for their input. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
			:, missed this one. I think the compromise works. Thanks.:-)PEACE] 16:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Any time :) If it creeps back, take it out again unless they can source it. We're trying to live up to standards here, after all! :) -- <span style="background-color: #EECCFF;">]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> (] | ])</span></span> 05:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
			:Thanks for the wise advice...will do.PEACE] 16:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
			==Christian view==
			] Replied on my talk page and on article .
			Regards ] 21:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
			==Thanks & welcome back==
			Hi ]. It's good to see you back again! I was concerned you might have been mortally mortified :-O
			I liked your tactful response. I can learn from posts like that. I have notified AMA about the sensitivity issue you drew my attention to so that any issues that arise will be dealt with tactfully. Thanks for letting me know.
			Regards ] 15:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
			== Thank you... ==
			... for your kind comments that you like my current user page look. It is most appreciated. ] 21:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC).
			==Clarification==
			It was smee voting for me. ] 17:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
			:I asked as I couldn't find the log for it...? I thought your vote was to oppose, so I just wanted it clarified as the voting has not taken a time log..approach. Is it your position and if so, make the corrections to it and proceed onward. I have a high regard for ] and so felt open in asking about it. Smee is a very hard worker, works on a variety of subjects and I have always found him to be a fair person. We, haven't met. Greetings/salutations to you, may we work well in the future.:-) Always keep in mind that if I find some thing, it is merely a fact and not a personal thing. I read several newspapers, read things that normal folks find no interest in and I am intrigued by a mystery/puzzle/riddle/unfinished story(recording events via photos). PEACE] 17:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
			::], no worries...issue has been fixed.
			::
			::PEACE] 17:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
			Now I'm confused. We seem to be discussing two completely separate articles and votes. I was responding to the link you left on Smee's page . ] 18:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
			:::], Listen, I think there is some software issue here as I didn't remove any votes. I now even wonder if Smee placed a vote for you, but rather some one else. I am now concerned if other edits are disappearing. I would be a happy camper with say one vote (record kept), then a second one (record kept), as in the current state one can't figure out what happened. Wouldn't you agree? Edit conflict... PEACE] 18:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
			::::], The lesson here for both of us is let him respond so we won't go in circles. So, go and vote on the second one please if you like. But, nice to meet you at any rate.PEACE] 18:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
			== Lou Papan ==
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			|On ], ], ''']''' was updated with {{#if:{{{4|}}}|facts|a fact}} from the article{{#if:{{{4|}}}|s|}} ''''']'''''{{#if:{{{4|}}}|{{#if:{{{5|}}}|, |, and}} ''''']'''''
			}}{{#if:{{{5|}}}|{{#if:{{{6|}}}|, |, and}} ''''']'''''
			}}{{#if:{{{6|}}}|, and ''''']'''''}}, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the ].
			|} <!-- ], ] --> --]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;] 03:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
			*Congratulations! I think this is your first DYK?
			If you wish, you can now utilize the userbox: <nowiki>{{User DYK|1}}</nowiki>, and the number can be adjusted to show number of created articles appeared on DYK, which looks a little something like: {{tl|User DYK}}, (plus the number inserted).
			You can also utilize the user box {{tl|User Did You Know}}, by inserting <nowiki>{{User Did You Know|Lou Papan}}</nowiki> on your userpage. ] 05:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC).
			:], Thank you for the info above I will try it out and if I run into trouble I will ask for help. Lou, was bigger than life and could he work a room. Very nice man, took the time for young people, very personable and his aides were some of the best young minds within the party. Thank you for doing such a nice info box and fixing it up...looks very good now.] 05:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
			::No worries. Congratulations again on your first DYK. ] 05:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC).
			:::], Good thing I am not a programmer...can't seem to get that working. Can you place it below my message/e-mail? Thanks, once I see how it is supposed to be I can get the gist of it.Thanks] 06:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
			*Um, it's really easy - just add <nowiki>{{User Did You Know|Lou Papan}}</nowiki>, and/or (could be both) <nowiki>{{User DYK|1}}</nowiki>, to your list of userboxes, somewhere in the list. ] 06:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC).
			**Looks like you've got it. Happy authoring! ] 06:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC).
			::::], I am impressed, you taught me to fish, rather than handing it to me! Good on ya (teaching qualities are rare)...you really should consider being an Admin! I would vote for you. PEACE] 06:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
			*Thank you. Interestingly enough, you are the third individual that has suggested this recently... ] 06:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC).
			**The code for the reflist I did is simply, <nowiki>{{reflist}}</nowiki> -- ] 22:59, 27 May 2007 (UTC).
			==note==
			BKsb
			*http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Third_opinion&diff=prev&oldid=145737446
			*http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Religion_and_philosophy
			*http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=149830173 Removing editing
			*http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Religion_and_philosophy&diff=next&oldid=148708726
			*http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement Faith and Green108
			== Lou Papan ==
			No problem. Indeed, it must've been confusing :) --''']'''<sup>]</sup> 01:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
			== Moral support ==
			Hello. While I commend your offering moral support to Smee, I was disappointed to see you "taking sides" as if this is between Smee and I (or between Smee and Lsi john). Smee was blocked for the 6th time for disruptive behavior by a totally disinterested admin. Listen, there are qualities about Smee that I like and admire too and I urge her to build on those qualities. I am going to expand on that theme on my user talk page in an Open Letter to Smee (ps, there is nothing there that is meant to refer to you). Please do not further the contentious behavior by "taking sides". Regarding your specific points: ] can be linked to ] ], not ]s. And, why not stub an article for ]? I was going to do it for you but there are a few different usages of the term and I am not sure which one you are interested in. Take care. --] 13:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
			:], I appreciate that you took the time to write me for the following reasons. I frankly value you, think you are very bright and productive. As, you may know I don't like inappropriate words thrown about, or naughty suggestive ones. That said, given my background I can honestly say to you, that I have defended ones right to religion in a manner, time given and effort for many years and continue to today even though not in a formal manner. That said, I have always felt and believed that the right to religious practices can only be protected with freedom of information. In fact I was told/informed that this topic of Freedom of Information might interest you but had not approached it as I have not finished doing research on the project. I had informed Smee about a future project and as usual ] is always willing to help.
			:*It grieves me to see the current state of affairs. I can recall that at one point ] was considering leaving wikipedia and during that time I began to communicate with Smee on his/her talkpage. Now, I see Misplaced Pages as being a collaborative process, hopefully filled with wiki love and good wiki will. Imagine the idea of strangers coming together to work on some thing for the good of others throughout the world, giving of their time, effort and exchanging thoughts in the process, is truly remarkable. I value this venue as books are disappearing from the libraries and electronic media is being pushed forward as a replacement. Now as to the number of blocks you mention, I did see some of the early ones and in my opinion the individuals that brought it on were primarily inciting and causing mischief. Given the amount of work Smee produces, if one were to take assessment of said work the blocks would be a very small entry. That said, Smee has always been very contrite, and polite. I admire that Smee takes the higher road, doesn't attack but is willing to discuss things that most will not.
			::I am sorry you feel disappointed in me, or see it as "taking sides". I am glad to see that you are extending a hand of friendship to ] and that you do find ] of value here in the wikipedia community. That brings hope to my heart in that we can all get along and move on. My tea invite is still open.PEACE] 16:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
			::*], I wasn't going to post here, though I, too, saw your posting on ] talkpage. Having seen your response now, I would like to go on-record with you for a couple of things.
			:::First, and most important, I would like to state ''very clearly'' that ''I am '''not''' happy that ] is blocked''. There is no ''joyous dancing in the streets'' going on. I find the entire situation very distasteful, unpleasant and quite sad. It is hurtful both to Misplaced Pages in general and to all the involved editors in particular.
			:::For myself, I was not disappointed that you reached out to ]. I was disappointed that you implied that the block was somehow ''unjust'' and that ] is a ''great leader'' and that ] had done ''nothing wrong'' and then you hummed ''we shall overcome'' as if to compare her situation to the persecution of the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the plight of negro slaves.
			:::Your comments served to undermine and minimize the entire reason for the block. The fact is that ] broke the rules, by using ''Revert'' as an editing tool and as a technique for content dispute resolution. This is an ongoing pattern of behavior and it is a problem. It was recognized by an outside admin, with no knowledge of any of the involved parties. And the admin took an action that was reviewed, and supported, by a second uninvolved admin.
			:::You commented that you are glad ] is reflecting. So am I. It is important that ] take this opportunity to reflect on his editing practices. Comments that suggest that the block was unjust, or that someone else should have also been blocked, or that there is a ''noisy investigation'' will derail that reflection and are counter productive. ], and ] alone, ''"is responsible"'' for ] decisions, conduct and actions.
			:::Its ironic, actually, that the very trainings which ] writes so strongly against, teach the concept of ''Personal Responsibility'' and ''Responsible Behavior'' and accepting the consequences of our choices and actions.
			:::If you read ] talkpage (since the block), you will note that he begins each conversation by acknowledging that he was blocked for his conduct. But the more he is encouraged by others, with suggestions of ''unfairness in the block'' and ''overcoming'', the more he begins to shift the focus away from himself (personal responsibility), and toward blaming other editors for his predicament (victim). Please be careful not to encourage conversations in this direction. It is his own behavior that he needs to be looking at right now.
			:::'''Misplaced Pages needs ]'''. But Misplaced Pages needs a ] that can work in concert with other editors. Misplaced Pages needs a ] that doesn't have to ] every article. Misplaced Pages needs a ] that doesn't use '''R'''evert as a standard edit response.
			:::'''Misplaced Pages needs ] research capability''', to locate sources. But, Misplaced Pages needs a ] that finds sources for ''all'' sides of the issues, not just the sources which support a single point of view.
			:::'''Misplaced Pages needs ] wkfy knowledge'''. But Misplaced Pages needs a ] that can offer suggestions to editors, rather than ''cleaning up every edit '''for''' them''.
			:::'''] brings value to Misplaced Pages that nobody else can bring.''' Because, ] is a unique individual, with unique views. But Misplaced Pages is a community that contains lots of editors, who must work in harmony and follow the rules. Misplaced Pages, and the articles here, are not something that anyone ]. So, Misplaced Pages needs a ] who can work cooperatively with other editors, in a community with diverse views.
			:::As my final thought, ], I request that you neither suggest, encourage, support, nor allow this to be an "''us against them''" situation. We must '''all work together'''. When a parent spanks (or grounds) a child, it rarely seems fair to the child and it almost always gives pain to the parent. (I'm sure you've heard ''this hurts me more than it hurts you''). And the spanking (or grounding) generally has nothing to do with the parent, and everything to do with the conduct of the child. (And lets not take that analogy ''too literally'', as its the message that is important not the example. ok? thanks).
			:::We each bring our own perspective (thats the us), and then we are supposed to write from a place of NPOV (thats the WE). There is no ''them'', there need not be an ''against'' and there is nothing to ''overcome''.
			:::To Smee: I think you are an asset to Misplaced Pages and I look forward to the day we work ''together'' in ''harmony'' to create high quality ] that get ].
			:::Happy Editing. Peace in God. ] 18:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
			::::],
			::::First, I take issue with interjecting ML in the fray. As a person of color I have my communication style and I was communicating with Smee (so, I thought). That chorus goes beyond what you state (please check....as I do believe "slavery" was resolved during the civil war, but civil rights were the issue during ML's time), and is a song of courage/contemplative PEACE. As a young person I was called the "N" word, yet I choose to take the high road, when it is bantered about by others here, as I see it being used to serve another purpose. There is but a few degrees of separation you see, and that is the reason I choose to refer to myself as a person of color. Only in recent years did I realize that I had a very unusual childhood, saw things people only read about and it does trouble me when young people get mixed up about history. I can recall a couple of months back correcting some young speaker on the "Struggle in the South" and later telling an old timer about it. Find out why Bill Clinton is referred to as the "First Black" president.
			::::Secondly, in my real life I often mentor young men, (you and another imply Smee is a she, no problem) and yes, I try to encourage leadership skills/attributes in all young people(], you too can be a leader if you choose). Often in life we stumble, we pick ourselves up and continue. I see nothing wrong in offering a hand, or a word of encouragement. I do think that Smee is doing self reflection, which is good and was glad to see that Justanother is extending his hand out to Smee. Now, should I be silent in expressing my opinion here? Is my opinion that valued? Now, this is the second time you answer for Smee?!?
			::::I see one being able to over come adversity in a positive way, seeing that it builds character, fortitude and enables the person to become an asset to society. I never inferred a them vs us mentality. Working together collaboratively is some thing that needs to be fostered. I did say to Smee "onward". Which translates to learn and move on. Don't give up. We all have value, we all have things to give/convey.
			::::*Many times in my life I have been told to but out. This would not be the first nor the last I suspect.
			::::*As to spanking the child:Smee is an adult. I have never spanked a child as I don't believe in violence as a means to solving a problem and I don't believe in harsh words as they too can cause damage, even more deeply than say a swat.
			::::So, ], lets move on from here and try to be civil to one another. I have placed your message to ] on his/her talkpage.PEACE] 21:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
			AMEN:Case closed...] 21:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
			:::::Sir, (as an analyst I'll address your points in order)
			:::::a) I had no idea you were a person of any color whatsoever. And now that I know, it's still not important. To me, you are a person. Color, gender, race, sexual preference, and most other things are irrelevant. It's our conduct that defines who we are, not our color.
			:::::b) I meant absolutely no disrespect to Mr King whatsoever. None. Zero. If you took offense, then I apologize and request that you re-read it. The song you ''hummed'' relates to an ugly and shameful period in American History for parties on both sides of that situation. Without getting into a civil rights discussion (please?), the people who sang that song felt oppressed and vowed to ''overcome'' the oppression. My usage of the words 'negro slaves' was technically incorrect, and I offer to retract them in favor of 'oppressed negro population' if you prefer. It was the meaning, not my specific choice of words, which was important. For any offense taken, again I apologize. Neither offense, nor disrespect was intended to you, nor Mr King.
			:::::c) As a general rule, I try to address Smee as a he. I have been told both, and Smee has specifically refused to publicly clear up the question/confusion. I think it would be polite of him to clarify, but in this case privacy is not something I would deny him.
			:::::d) I did request that you not pick at the specifics of my spanking/grounding example. It was the concept I was trying to get across, not that Smee is a child. It was the best example I could think of at the time, and I included 'grounded' as an alternate substitution in the example. I tried to be clear about this, and I'm disappointed to see you miss the point and somehow feel that I was calling Smee a child or that I endorsed spanking. An analogy is not intended to be analyzed in detail. It is used to explain a position, without getting bogged down (and side tracked) in the details of the real situation.
			:::::The point was, whether preventative or punitive, user blocks hurt both the user and the community. And, its rare that a user will feel the block is just or fair. Encouraging a user to believe the block is unfair or unjust, is no different than a neighbor telling your child that you spanked (or grounded/punished/diciplined) him unfairly. It undermines your authority and your rules, and it's wrong.
			:::::e) I've never been uncivil to you, nor (to my knowledge) you to me. So I will take your remark as rhetorical.
			:::::f) Thank you. It was unnecessary to post it on Smee's page, but thank you for doing so. I know that he will eventually read this and, given my prior experience with him, many of the things I have said here may be hard for him to accept at face value. I wanted to include positive feedback for Smee and let him know that I do value his contributions. It's ''the way he contributes'' that is the problem.
			:::::Peace in God. Yours, ] 23:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
			::::::],
			::::::Thank you for the analysis and yes I do like politeness as I see it works wonders. Now, just an FYI as you may not know, it is Black, not "negro"! For example:Driving while Black or Brown. As to " Encouraging a user to believe the block is unfair or unjust" is neither here nor there. ] has taken it like a big girl and is busy dreaming up little info boxes or other articles I imagine. Now, if you want my personal opinion, parity would have served best. Now, consider that I think ] is a very bright person and has a notable sense of humour.
			::::::I do thank you for the analysis, no hard feelings and yes we all have a way of seeing the world. PEACE and Good Will to you.] 00:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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			Thank you for all your help ] and thanks to the DYK folks. PEACE] 16:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
			*No worries. Others have commented by the way that it is a ''very'' well sourced article. You may want to solicit some help however, on copyediting and structuring. ] 20:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC).
			::Where do I request this? Where are the comments?PEACE] 21:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
			*] -- You could start by asking for copyediting help from ]. ] 21:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC).
			== Cyber Doctor merge ==
			Hello. I've proposed merging ] and ]. Since you created ], I'd be grateful for your thoughts on this over at the talk page ]. Thanks, ] 10:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
			== Revert was not a mistake ==
			Hi Talkabout. The stuff I reverted was content that was cleaned up by ] as part of the cleanup. It was re-inserted by ] and so it since ]'s edits were valid and should not have been undone without reaching a consensus in discussion. The material has been reverted several times by various editors now so I appreciate that it may not be immediately clear what the history is. I would be grateful if you could reverse the damage since the last thing I want is to get caught in an edit war (3RR and all that).
			Much appreciated ] 19:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
			== Sockpuppetry ==
			I don't believe you. I'm not involved in editing the article, have no side to take, but I can recognize a sock when it appears an hour after a block is extended. Have a nice day, and please don't post on my talk page again. Thanks. ] (]) 05:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
			:I don't see any block on my page and why did you put a sign on my front page. You sir are in essence calling me a liar. I am not anyone else, I always sign in as myself and do not find your unfounded accusations just and rather biased. I am requesting that you provide the complaint desk for Admins. ] 06:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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			Just so you know, ] is not an admin. ] ] ] 07:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
			:Thank you for advising me of this. So, then may I remove his tag from my User page? Thank You, you wouldn't believe upsetting this was to me. PEACE] 08:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
			::Also note that it wasn't me that filed the checkuser you refer to. Check the history of it. I filed another one earlier that did not include you. Regards ] 12:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
			If you return to the ] page, you will see that a checkuser/arbitrator has indicated that the sock allegation is not correct. Based on this, the matters seems resolved, and it would be in order for you to now withdraw the request for arbitration. As I am an ], if you indicate that this is acceptable I will take care of the "paperwork." Thank you, ] 14:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
			:::Thank you, and sorry to have troubled you. I do thank you for resolving that I am not a sockpuppet. Sincerely/PEACE ] 19:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
			== Apologies ==
			Sorry for misidentifying you as a sockpuppet. I guess you simply had the misfortune to choose to reappear on the scene just 1 hour after Green108 had his block extended for evading it. Sometimes these things are just coincidence, it seems. ] (]) 01:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
			:Apology accepted. Please note the manner in which you make your comments to others as you conveyed some authority, which I have learned you do not have. I hold no rancor toward you and bid you a good day. PEACE] 19:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
			===]'s Special Treatment===
			I have a question and it is one of equity. Why is ] allowed to post inciting comments on others talkpages (and Users Pages) and when challenged in a perfectly well mannered way he opts out by "don't post on my talk page again". Keep in mind in my case he was claiming I was a sockpuppet and with Admin like authority went and posted this on my User Page . His tone was not too pleasant either. Now I see he has done this to another member and gone and cried wolf here, but please note that he failed to mention he posted this on this User's Page just as he did with me.
			*I am bothering to write to you for two reasons. First, this type of action by ] is contrary to a positive working experience here and is lacking in the wikispirit. Second, is that when he does this (posting on other User's Page) he is stepping beyond his authority and intimidating other Users which is plain wrong. Lastly, in my case I found his actions to be non-productive and using up resources that could be spent on "real" issues rather than his assumptions. So, in the act of parity perhaps you might find it fitting to tell him to stop placing "assumptions" that discredit others without validity. Thank you for your time with regards to these issues. PEACE] 19:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
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			<big>'''A Special Dispatch'''</big><br>
			Just a note, not aimed at anyone in particular. By order of the administrative cabal, it is officially not cool (and possibly ]) to call someone an anti-semite ''when'' they aren't being anti-semitic. Anti-semitic is a very charged word, and it's important only to use it when you're absolutely sure it applies, lest it become the subject of a ]. Remember Hanlon's Razor: never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.<br>
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			*A new class on the importance scale has been added- C Class- which covers articles better than start but not quite to B Class yet. It is up to the WikiProjects to decide whether to adopt them or not. Currently, there has been little discussion within our Projects, so if you feel strongly either way be sure to note so at your Project.
			*There is a proposal to reword the section on NPOV regarding religious articles. Please see ] to weigh in.
			*Thanks largely to the efforts of ], a new navbox has come into being featuring Halakha topics. See: ] to join in the conversation about how it can best be improved.
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			The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts in the San Francisco Bay Area will gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. We have two brief presentations lined up for our kickoff event in downtown San Francisco:
			* The Nueva Upper School recently hosted the first ever high school Misplaced Pages edit-a-thon. We will hear what interests them about Misplaced Pages, what they have learned so far, and what they hope to achieve.
			* Photojournalist Kris Schreier Lyseggen, author of ''The Women of San Quentin: The Soul Murder of Transgender Women in Male Prisons,'' will tell us about her work and how she researched the topic.
			We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. We will have beverages and light snacks.
			'''''Please note: You must , and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name.''''' The building policy is strict on this point.
			For further details, see here: ''']'''
			We hope to see you -- and until then, happy editing! - ], ] & ]
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			== Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series on May 25 ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at '''Bay Area WikiSalon''' to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
			We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. We will have beverages and light snacks.
			'''Please note: You must''' ''''',''''' '''and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name.''' The building policy is strict on this point.
			For further details, see: ''']'''
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Peteforsyth|Pete F}}, {{u|Ben Creasy}}, and {{u|Checkingfax}} via ] (]) 01:15, 9 May 2016 (UTC) | ].
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			== Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, June 29 ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at '''Bay Area WikiSalon''' to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
			We make sure to allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks. We will also have:
			*'''A brief report on ]''', coordinated by ]:
			*: What topics might we cover in a follow up?
			*: Find out more about resources your public library provides to help with editing (hint, it's more than just books!)
			*: Special announcement (secret for now but come and find out more!)
			* '''Join in on an in person ]!'''
			*: Are you curious how your peers approach writing a Misplaced Pages article? This exercise, pioneered by Wikipedians Nikola Kalchev and Vassia Atanassova in 2015 and conducted in many places around the world, will help us all - from first-time wiki users to veteran Wikipedians - share ideas, while building an article together. If you have ideas (relating to Bay Area history, ideally) about a new article we could build (stubs and short existing articles are fine), please submit them ahead of time to coordinator ]. (User talk page or email is fine.)
			*: Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!
			''Please note: You must'' '''''''''', ''and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name.'' The building policy is strict.
			For further details, see: ''']'''
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Peteforsyth|Pete F}}, {{u|Ben Creasy|Ben}}, {{u|Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen}} and {{u|Checkingfax}} | <small>(])</small>
			{{letterhead end}} ] (]) 10:07, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
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			== REMINDER/invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, June 29 at 6 p.m. ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco tonight!</big></div>
			]
			If you cannot join in person or want to view portions later:
			*
			*
			We will have:
			* Light snacks, and time to mingle
			* A brief report on the Pride edit-a-thon recently held at the San Francisco Public Library, that was coordinated by Wiki editor ]
			* A special announcement (secret for now but come and find out more!)
			* Join in on a brief in person ]!
			* Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!
			Please register at: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cjLRrSTlEkGOPTQ-h6A0WvSFI4ZmIUl6jEHp_RYas-E/viewform
			and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict.
			For further details, see: ]
			<hr>
			See you tonight! {{u|Peteforsyth|Pete F}}, {{u|Ben Creasy|Ben}}, {{u|Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen}} and ] (]) 15:48, 29 June 2016 (UTC) | <small>(])</small>
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			== Late breaking invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, July 27 (Wednesday) - change of venue - tonight ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in the Mission at Noisebridge (one time change of venue)!</big></div>
			]
			We hope you can join us today, Wednesday, from 6 p.m. on, at our July Bay Area WikiSalon. This month only, we are going to be at '''Noisebridge''', a hackerspace/makerspace 1.5 blocks from the 16th & Mission BART station (see the link for directions). Some of us will be working on the Misplaced Pages article on ''basic income''. . Some good news - we do not have to be as strict about advance RSVP at Noisebridge, so bring spontaneous guests! ( ahead of time is still helpful, as always, as it will help us plan ahead.)
			Come and hang out, have some light snacks. Wi-Fi is available, so please bring your editing device if you plan to edit.
			Also, Pete just published a writeup of the Wikidojo exercise we did last month. Your comments welcome, if he missed anything!
			http://wikistrategies.net/ghost-town-royals-wikidojo
			The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at '''Bay Area WikiSalon''' to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. Mark you calendars now.
			We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend.
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Peteforsyth|Pete F}}, {{u|Ben Creasy}}, {{u|Slaporte|Stephen}} and {{u|Checkingfax|Wayne}} | <small>(])</small>
			{{letterhead end}} ] (]) 17:05, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
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			== Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, August 31 ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			Hi folks,
			We would like to invite you to this month's '''Bay Area WikiSalon'''. The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
			We make sure to allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks. We will also have a brief presentation for your education and possible enjoyment:
			* Former EFF intern Marta Belcher will discuss crowdsourcing her Stanford Law School graduation speech using a wiki. The "WikiSpeech" was the subject of prominent national media attention in 2015, and more than half of her classmates contributed to writing and editing the commencement address via a wiki.
			''Please note: You should'' '''''''''', ''and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name.'' The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on speakers or wiki-related activities.
			For further details, see: ''']'''
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Peteforsyth|Pete F}}, {{u|Ben Creasy|Ben}}, {{u|Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen}} and {{u|Checkingfax}} | <small>(])</small>
			{{letterhead end}} ] (]) 21:05, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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			== Tonight: Live and archived links for Bay Area WikiSalon ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			Bay Area WikiSalon, Wednesday, August 31:
			If you cannot join us in person tonight, we are streaming (and later archiving) the presentation by former EFF intern Marta Belcher. We expect her to be live starting between 6:30 or 6:45 p.m. PDT and talking and taking questions for about 30 minutes thereafter.
			Here is the YouTube stream link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8V79s2-og<br>
			Here is the link to join the Hangout on Air: https://hangouts.google.com/call/ezrol7dafjfwxfh2ilpkjyxoaue
			You can search for it on the Commons and YouTube later too.
			Wayne, Pete, Ben, and Stephen
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			== Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, September 28 ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			Hi folks,
			We would like to invite you to this month's '''Bay Area WikiSalon'''. The last Wednesday evening of every month, Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia enthusiasts gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
			We will have no formal agenda to allow people to freely share ideas and perhaps learn about Misplaced Pages through hands-on editing. Co-organizer Ben Creasy will be looking at election-related articles to enhance the information available in the upcoming November elections.
			]
			Co-organizer Stephen LaPorte has suggested doing an upload-a-thon for ]. Niki, the California coordinator for WLM will be in attendance. WLM is an annual event and the official dealine is Friday the 30th for submissions to count towards awards.
			Or, you can grab a couch, a booth, or a stool and do your own thing.
			]
			''Please note: You should'' '''''''''', ''and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name.'' The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on future speakers or wiki-related activities.
			For further details, please see: ''']'''. Mark your calendars now for the 3rd Wednesday in October, the 26th, when we will have a brief presentation.
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Peteforsyth|Pete F}}, {{u|Ben Creasy|Ben}}, {{u|Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen}} and {{u|Checkingfax}} | <small>(])</small>
			{{letterhead end}} ] (]) 01:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
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			== You are invited to a Wednesday evening event in SF ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			Hi folks,
			Please copy and share this on other talk pages. We would like to invite you to this month's '''Bay Area WikiSalon'''. The last Wednesday evening of every month, Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia enthusiasts gather at the Wikimedia Foundation lounge to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
			We will have no meaty agenda this month, but we will allow a brief period for:
			* Open mic for anybody who attended in San Diego last week and wants to share their takeaway
			* Question & answer
			* Open mic for announcements
			* Maybe a focus on some topical election article editing with Ben?
			Or, you can grab a couch, a booth, a stool or counter and do your own thing.
			]
			<hr>
			''Please note: You should'' '''''''''', ''and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name.'' The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on future speakers or wiki-related activities.
			For further details, please see: ''']'''.
			<hr>
			PS: Mark your calendars ahead now for the 3rd Wednesday in November, the 30th (the week after Thanksgiving), at 6 p.m. when our WikiSalon will host a super awesome top secret mystery guest mingling in our midst. We will announce specifics at the upcoming WikiSalon.
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Peteforsyth|Pete F}}, {{u|Ben Creasy|Ben}}, {{u|Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen}}, Jacob, and {{u|Checkingfax}} | <small>(])</small>
			{{letterhead end}} ] (]) 08:51, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
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			== Everybody is invited to the November 30 Bay Area WikiSalon ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			<hr>
			Details and RSVP ''']'''.
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Peteforsyth|Pete F}}, {{u|Ben Creasy}}, and {{u|Checkingfax}} | <small>(])</small>
			{{letterhead end}} ] (]) 00:54, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
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			== Bay Area WikiSalon series: Everybody is invited this Wednesday evening at 6 ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki and open-source enthusiasts gather at '''Bay Area WikiSalon''' to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
			Before and after the brief presentation we allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks.
			<hr>
			In addition, this month we will have:
			* a brief presentation from {{u|Cullen328|User:Cullen328}} (Jim Heaphy) about the Misplaced Pages Teahouse
			* spontaneous ]s from the floor
			* community announcements from the floor
			<hr>
			For details and to RSVP see: ''']'''
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Ben Creasy}} and {{u|Checkingfax}} | <small>(])</small>
			+++++<br />
			P.S. Any help spreading the word through social media or other avenues is most welcome! We plan to announce this on
			various sites and invite various groups; if you would like to join in, check
			our meta planning page, and please note any announcements you are sending out:
			]
			Please feel free to add to, refine, reorganize or edit the above linked page: it is a wiki!
			We need more helpers and organizers, so if you see a need, please jump in, or talk to us about it! You can add your username to the meta page where appropriate, or create a new role!
			{{letterhead end}}] (]) 21:44, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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			== Reminder invitation to the December Bay Area WikiSalon ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			Hi, everybody.
			We are excited to remind you of the ninth in the Bay Area WikiSalon series that is coming up this Wednesday evening at 6 p.m.
			* Details (RSVP suggested) ''']''' (RSVP helps us know how much food and drink to bring in)
			What is a WikiSalon? A monthly safe and inclusive meatspace event conducted in organized chaos and we all clean up the mess afterwards. Livestream links for the presentation are available during presentation months, and will be forthcoming for those of you that cannot attend. December is a presentation month.
			<hr>
			Hope to see you there! {{u|Checkingfax|Wayne}} (and {{u|Ben Creasy|Ben}}) - co-organizers<br>
			Any last minute questions or suggestions? Please ping or email Ben or me. | <small>(])</small>
			{{letterhead end}}] (]) 05:10, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
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			== Archived link for December Bay Area WikiSalon ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			Hi, y'all.
			In case you missed it and want to watch the archive reel; the topic was The Misplaced Pages Teahouse and the presenter was well respected Wikimedian Jim Heaphy ]]]
			* (also includes intro, announcements, and a lightning talk)
			* Details about Bay Area WikiSalon for December ''']'''
			The full title of Jim's presentation was: ''Welcoming and Helping New Editors: A Month at the Misplaced Pages Teahouse: an overview of the Teahouse and an analysis of over 300 Teahouse conversations during the month of August, 2016''
			Jim gave a longer version of this presentation in October at in San Diego, California.
			<hr>
			Cheers! Co-organizer {{u|Checkingfax}} - and co-organizer {{u|Ben Creasy}} | <small>(])</small>
			<hr>
			PS: Mark your calendars now for Sunday, January 15 at 2 p.m. which will be Misplaced Pages's 16th Birthday party hosted by Bay Area WikiSalon! Details to follow soon. If you want to help plan it, get in touch with us ASAP!
			{{letterhead end}} ] (]) 01:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
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			== You are invited to a birthday bash to Celebrate Misplaced Pages's 16th Birthday! ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			'''Misplaced Pages Day 16 SF''' is a fun Birthday bash and ] on '''Sunday, January 15, 2017,''' hosted by ''''']''''' at the Wikimedia Foundation's ''Chip Deubner Lounge'' in the South of Market Street business district.
			]
			For details and to RSVP, please see: ''']'''
			The San Francisco gathering is one of a number of ] celebrations worldwide.
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{noping|Ben Creasy}}, {{noping|Checkingfax}} and {{u|Slaporte}} | <small>(])</small>
			<hr>
			PS: We need volunteers to help make this a fun and worthwhile event. Please add your name to the ''']''', and what you can offer. It is a wiki, so please make direct edits to the page.
			''Bay Area WikiSalon usually meets the last Wednesday evening of every month as an inclusive and safe place to collaborate, mingle, munch and learn about new projects and ideas''.
			{{letterhead end}} ] (]) 07:52, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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			== Reminder invitation to the ''Misplaced Pages Day 16'' birthday bash & edit-a-thon ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			'''Misplaced Pages Day 16 SF''' is a fun Birthday bash and ] on '''Sunday, January 15, 2017,''' hosted by
			''Bay Area WikiSalon'' at the Wikimedia Foundation's ''Chip Deubner Lounge'' in the South of Market Street business district and everybody is invited!
			]
			{| class="wikitable"
			! ''']'''
			|-
			|}
			<hr>
			See you Sunday! {{noping|Ben Creasy}}, {{noping|Checkingfax}} and {{u|Slaporte}}
			<hr>
			'''PS''': We still need more volunteers to help make this a fun and worthwhile event. Please add what you can offer and your name to the ''']''' or ''']'''. It is a wiki, so please make direct edits to the Project page. The event is already growing due to volunteers that have stepped up so far. {{smiley}}
			<hr>
			:''''']''''' ''meets one evening of every month as an inclusive and safe place to collaborate, mingle, munch or learn about new projects and ideas''.
			<hr>
			{{small|Note: the previous invitation had a bum wikilink. Sorry!}} | {{small|(])}} | ] (]) 06:43, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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			== Bay Area WikiSalon invitation for February 22 ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at '''Bay Area WikiSalon''' to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
			We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks.
			<hr>
			'''Please note: You should''' ''''',''''' '''and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name'''. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in.
			<hr>
			For further details, see: ''']'''
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Ben Creasy}} and {{u|Checkingfax|Wayne}} | <small>(])</small> | ] (]) 06:47, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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			== Bay Area WikiSalon February reminder ==
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			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 6 p.m.
			<hr>
			For details and to RSVP: ''']'''
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Ben Creasy}} and {{u|Checkingfax|Wayne}} (co-coordinators) | <small>(])</small> | ] (]) 02:59, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
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			== Your invitation: Bay Area WikiSalon series at Noisebridge ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at '''Bay Area WikiSalon''' to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. This month we are meeting at ] in the Mission near 16th Street BART (temporary change of venue). The good news is this means that you can bring spontaneous guests if you forget to RSVP!
			We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks.
			<hr>
			If possible, please RSVP as it helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in. For further details and to RSVP, please see: ''']'''
			<hr>
			See you soon! Co-coordinators {{u|Ben Creasy}} and {{u|Checkingfax|Wayne}}<br><small>('''Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice ]''')</small> | ] (]) 02:06, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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			== Reminder: Tonight is Bay Area WikiSalon at Noisebridge ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			<hr>
			Details and to RSVP: ''']'''
			(optional, but helpful for food and special needs accommodations)
			We are meeting at Noisebridge makerspace/hackerspace (temporary venue change) near 16th ST BART in SF.
			<hr>
			See you soon! Co-coordinators {{u|Ben Creasy}} and {{u|Checkingfax|Wayne}}<br><small>('''Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice ]''')</small> | ] (]) 18:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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			== Wednesday night you are invited! Bay Area WikiSalon ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
			]
			The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather for the '''Bay Area WikiSalon''' series to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.
			We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks. We will have some announcements and lightning talks from the floor, and a breakout session. This is our one year anniversary, so there will be cake!
			<hr>
			'''''],''''' '''and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name'''. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in.
			<hr>
			See you soon! {{u|Ben Creasy}} and {{u|Checkingfax|Wayne}}<br /> <small>(])</small> | ] (]) 06:19, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
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			== Everybody is invited to the May 31 Bay Area WikiSalon series! ==
			{{letterhead start}}
			<div style="text-align: center;"><big>Please join us in downtown San Francisco!</big></div>
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Shrink down your picture

The picture you added takes up too much space, shrink it down or you will need to use { { - } } marks. But by all means add it in if it is an real picture. Since your are a photographer maybe you can help add in pictures to other politicans because I have trouble getting them for many pages I edited. Just wanted to make sure you were not an vandal because there was a lots of vandalsim on pages by random ip adress users.CS California

You can shrink down your picture and up load a new one (check in file history of your file). Someone also needs to find out when he is born and where in guangdong he came from.CS California

Problematic Biased Input Response

Is it just me or is the entire article a word for word copy from his website?

It sure was, but I've reverted it back to a free version now. -Wiccan Quagga 05:16, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

There was no articles that were given to me that were campaign bias that left nowhere. the picture was the only one available from an old chronicle newspaper I had. The empty braket sign { { - } } was to organize the article around the large picture that was imputed.

Point 4 Please don't use brackets that lead to no where Which brackets lead nowhere

If the information was "disputed" just change it and indicate why, you dont have to make a big deal about it. As you commented no "bias information should be added." I agree that bias information should not be added. The secondary bracket edits were to fix the links so they just summarized the information instead of showing the whole link. NO LINKS were Deleted.

Your link were listed in an unorganized manner displaying the adresses check links on other politican cites they were all organized History page of leland yee articles:

• Death Threats Over Video Games
• Supervisor Yee's plan includes ban on new ventures in the Tenderloin, March 31, 1998
• Salon.com,Grand Death Auto
• Suit tying video game to murders may proceed
• Violent video game blamed for deaths, Matier and Ross

"By all the useless re-arranging you make it hard for people to research and cause some delay in accessing said information." (TalkAbout) How do people find stuff if it is unorganized?

You mentioned:

• Police and parent groups are concerned about violent video games causing children to be desensitized to violence. (why are you talking about parents when the article relates to Leland Yee?) They also believe that the video makers should be held accountable in these type of crimes. Others believe it is not the direct cause of the violence. (you indicated believed twice which is not factual. Why are they included. It still is unrelated to the main article leland yee. We are not writing about the relations between video games and desensitizing children) Both of Yee's bills passed with a wide support due in part by all the media attention and support by parents.(this last sentance should be added to the point with bill 1792)

Note that the bottem two points can be combined because they relate to Bill 1792 & 1793. Why was the combination reverted??? Death threats is a minor aspect and should be combined.

• Yee is the author of California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793, which was signed into law on October 7, 2005, which would prohibit the sales of "ultra-violent" games in California to persons under the age of eighteen. Judge Ronald Whyte issued a preliminary injunction against the law on December 22 2005. Judge Whyte will soon deliver his final opinion on the constitutionality of California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793
• Yee received death threat as a result of authoring Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793.
• Why were these point made significant since the article should be factual?
• Points I made still incorporated the non-bias information provided?

Point 7 The photo you uploaded has been removed on two occasions by the wiki folks...see your talk page because you do not cite the source.

Which wiki folks removed this check history! the only people who modify it are not even members of wikipedia. I have been modifying this page since 06:18, 30 May 2006 (check history) and the picture only has been taken off by non wikipedia users. The picture sent in by TalkAbout does not cite the source either.

Point 3 Please check your spelling. You wrote:

• Finance Committee, he championed fiscal responsibility and accountability and established the largest "Rainy Day" budget reserve in San Francisco's history. Yee

Why start an new sentance with just yee and not finish it? Everyone makes mistakes just fix it and indicate that it is an minor edit. You dont have to wine about spelling when it is such an minor issue. It seems like you copied this information through cutting and pasting. It is not problematic if you can easily change it and write bias information read articles linked. I don't know why you have to make such a big deal about such a small problemCS_California

Wiki Tutorials

1. Click on the redlinks for the non-existent article here: aging in place.
2. Then, in the first line of that new article, insert this code: #redirect]
3. Click "save", and that should do it! Smee, Thanks:-)TalkAbout 18:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

• Tutorial Help

"name" your citations. For example, I name mine usually by the last name of the author - like <ref name="Talkabout"></ref>, and the citation itself would go inside as normal. Then, to repeat it, you just would use: <ref name="Talkabout" /> - with no closing "</ref>". Make sense?Smee, Thanks:-)TalkAbout

Signing in Wikistyle and use of links

Hi just a hint on how to use the Wiki. Signing comments ; When you leave a post on a discussion page, sign off automatically using four tilda signs from your keyboard, that is the ~ sign usually made by an alt-n or similar depending on your input settings. Four tilda will automatically sign your username and time of post whilst hiding your IP address. Making links ; Likewise, the use of two square bracket signs such as [[ is to make a Wiki link automatically is NOT used to turn text red. It is NOT used for long sentances but for words with Wiki topic pages already established or worthy of establishing. When a single word turns red, it means that there is no existing wiki topic page for it to link to. Vandalism and 3RR policy It might serve you to read up on some of the official policies of the Misplaced Pages such as the Three-revert rule (or 3RR) and the processes by which to report vandalism or rouge users/IP address to the admins, e.g. Requests_for_investigation. If you do enough good work and contributions, you can asked to bemade an admin which gives you more power to protect the Wiki and defend it against vandals.Good luck. 195.82.106.244 14:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

• To indent contributions to discussion pages, use one or more colons, e.g.

It is convetion that each new contributor indents their contribution to a discussion to make it easier to read and see where one finishes and the next starts. Thanks. 195.82.106.244 14:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

• Headings don't use brackets.
• If you use brackets to link to topics with no pages, learn how to make new pages.
• Check to see if singular nouns already have a page, it is not necessary to make new pages for plurals as well. Learn how to make a link from a word to a slightly different equivalent topic.195.82.106.244 10:30, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Stanger195.82.106.244|195.82.106.244, I don't know how to reply so I gather you have access here some how? Sincerely, TalkAbout 01:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC) Hi, learn how to use the Wiki. Read the manual and guidelines. When reverting an article state that you are reverting and to which version. By doing so, you establish the pattern which makes it easier for the admins to decide who is right and who is doing wrong. Likewise if making an edit, state what the edit is in a brief impersonal manner, in the window provided for doing so, so that others know what you have done. Thank you.195.82.106.244 21:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Editorial Advice

(a) Try and find sources for the claims made; (b) if you cannot find sources, mark it as {{fact}}; (c) after waiting some time (discretionary), delete and move to talk. That is more or less the way I would do it. But there is no explicit policy that dictates that in that manner. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 18:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

ShotSpotter Gunshot Location System

Talkabout,

Thanks for adding that trivia. I recently added to the folklore of RWC, also. However, it seems I am destine to inform you that the very system you describe has never been shown to be effective. The reasons vary. In any case, I would be remise if I did not point this out, let alone add that to your fine addition. In any case, I considered it in poor taste if I was to edit your addition. I will allow you that happy privelege(sp?).

Best Regards, 05:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)meatclerk

Jesselp

Hi Apparently i am deleting the dicussions page.... All that i can say is that i am not. and loose all of them valuable discussions . jp

Pre-eclampsia

Thanks for comment and suggestion to come up with some other addition. I had rather intended to imply in the edit summary that steroids were given for sake of the baby because a premature delivery could occur, rather than specifically for the reason why premature delivery was to occur - my attempts to abbreviate this for the edit summary comment were less clear thna I had wished. I also thought the phrasing (of mother/family having to request) needed reworking for better encyclopaedic style; much monitoring is required and sentances such as "X & Y are monitored" or "Where a premature delivery is likely to occur administration of steroids helps minimise ..." seem, to me, to read better. More importantly the article already mentions the use of steroids, so this seemed duplication. However I agree some further mention of issues seems indicated :-) I have therefore copied your post to Talk:Pre-eclampsia, placing a response and possible suggestion there for other editors to join in over. David Ruben 03:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

link to bosnian

Hello, when you want to link to the article about Bosnia, please do not link to Bosnian, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the one of the options found on that page such as Bosnia (region) or Bosnia and Herzegovina by writing out ]. Regards, Jeff3000 02:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

my Bot

Please note the reason for the removal of Category:Allied health professions was because the category does not exist. Betacommand 06:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Passing by

cheery smiles! -all in all your page in a whole lot better nick than over my neck of the woods right now. Can we chat offline? searchin man

Saving you from on unwanted e-mails! TalkAbout 17:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

substantial unequivocal evidence already supplied

I gave you substantial unequivocal evidence in my nine point reply under 'Searchin Man complaint' as to why there is an urgent need for an NPOV on the article. Re-visit point 1 of the reply before vandalising the NPOV. And please don't accuse me of personal attacks, ..not yet anyway. searchin man 22:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I need some HELP

Hi,

I am having a mediation problem and would like some help on this in the Brahma Kumaris discussion page. I have a fellow Named:Avyakt7 AKA Riveros11,72.91.28.223 AKA 72.91.151.117,

It would appear that he wants some thing removed. I can't seem to find it, but will remove what I do find. Now here is the problem: This fellow has been placing others information up too. It all started with him sussing someone and coming on the wiki to complain about a forum. Now, I don't know how to go about this, nor am I authorized to removed it permanently. Any help/advice you can offer whould be most appriciated. TalkAbout 05:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you're asking. I can suggest, though, that you try a dispute resolution process, which will perhaps help clear things up. If you need an article to be deleted, you can look at Articles for Deletion for information. Good luck! Replace the {{helpme}} template if you need additional help. —Keakealani 05:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Keakealani,

No, I don't want the article deleted. He says there is some thing there in the Discussion Page that he wants deleted. On the other hand he has been actively trying to out other wiki participants? So, who do I write to get this resolved or how do I start with mediation for him. He seems to have several IPs.

The article is fine, he just wants to turn it into an advertisement for the organisation rather than a neutral informative article. Thanks TalkAbout 06:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

As Keakealani said, please read and try one of the methods listed at Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution if the problem persists. Cheers, Tangotango 08:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I need help with avyakt7(Riveros11) that has taken ownership of an article and removed an advertisement tag. Now I don't want to revert because he will state that I am the problem. Please note that the Brahma Kumaris article is in arbitration and I have had problems with this editor before on this one article as he is part of the BK IT TEAM. The article currently has a clean up tag due to all his editing and currently he is demanding to know who an editor is before he allows any editing? Can you help! PEACETalkAbout 17:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Cancel the Help...Admin Jossi already assisted. TalkAbout 17:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Greetings TalkAbout

Please realize that user.244 has been lying. DO you see that? Please do not try to cover this. Both of you are antagonistic to Brahma Kumaris. Both of you have been abusing it by placing your biased views in it. Currently, you are not qualified to mediate anything in this article, we need an "unbiased" mediator if you want to go that route. I would like to work that article so that it is "unbiased." In other words, I would like to work with you, so neither BKs feel left out nor user .244 and yourself. This article needs to be neutral. I don't know what happened with you and user .244 and to vent your views in a such a strong way, but WIKIPEDIA must not be the place for that.

Sincerely, avyakt7 Ps: If you would like to discuss about this article, feel free to contact me avyakt7atyahoo.com

Discussion archived and still no response to 9 point reply

That's over 4 days now and nothing, look I'll happily accept a response from the 'Old one' himself if he has anymore clue. searchin man 01:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

If I was you I would check your email

Signature problems?

TalkAbout, I've noticed that your signature does not seem to be working, where you have to go back and wikify your userid. If you've set this up intentionally, fine. If not, the problem could be that you have "Raw signature" checked on "my preferences" under the "User profile" tab. Unchecking this box should make the software automatically include your userid linked in your signature. –RHolton≡– 22:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

RHolton,

Problem solved! Similar to looking for my glasses only to find they are on my head.:) Thank you! TalkAbout 01:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

You can vote here

Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Recovery_from_Cults_(book) Andries 18:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

• Andries seems to think I could let you know about other relatd AFD's if I tell you in a neutral manner about them, but from past experience I think that's a bad idea. Suffice it to say this: let it be known to you that there might perchance possibly be other related AFD's out there on a related topic that you may also be interested in commenting on at some point in the future. Perhaps. There, I hope that will sound to any random roving Misplaced Pages Administrator just like a friendly pointer and not like canvassing. Yours, Smeelgova 19:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC).

External links

I have removed some of the links you added, as they pointed to a page that pretty much only contained links right back to Misplaced Pages, and doesn't appear to be a reliable source anyway. Please use wikilinks to point to other articles at Misplaced Pages. Thanks --AbsolutDan 19:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

While I understand you are trying to provide information to help people, Misplaced Pages is not here to be an instruction guide or a collection of external links. Information must be verifiable and notable to remain here. If the information isn't already out there in a WP:RS, Misplaced Pages simply cannot have it. --AbsolutDan 21:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Recovery from Cults, XBK info: A guide to life after leaving the Brahma Kumaris, 2006

I placed the {{external links}} tag on that article primarily because of the number of links. When an article needs its external links broken down into sub-sections, we've passed over the spam event horizon. If you disagree feel free to contest it at the article's talk page, but I feel the tag should remain until the links are culled quite a bit more. Thanks --AbsolutDan 23:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Template:Cults

• I have changed the formatting of Template:Cults, so that it can now run down the right side of an article, like

Smeelgova,

Sorry for the delay in replying, been having trouble with my camera memory cards for my projects. Looks great! It is Gold. PEACETalkAbout 18:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm currently debating whether to leave Misplaced Pages altogether or simply take a break. I've become disillusioned by all of the personal attacks and overall bad manners by users of opposing POV. Therefore, I would most appreciate it if you would post your opinions/comments on the Template:Cults Talk page. Hope you are doing well. Yours, Smeelgova 19:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC).

Images

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NPA

I am seeing that I am being implicated, along with the BKWSU IT team, in some kind of conspiracy or unethical behavior ]]. This is a personal attack in the form of repeated accusatory comments so I am issuing you with the first NPA warning.

Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

I should point out that I am currently the only representative of the BKWSU IT team posting on Misplaced Pages and that means that anything I post is circulated and approved by the team first. Other BK contributers are posting autonomously and have to take responsibility for their own conduct on Misplaced Pages. In communications I have had with other editors off-line I have basically recommended following all of Misplaced Pages's guidelines and policies since, apart from being unethical, bad conduct makes any editor less credible and liable to be banned.

If you would like to clarify anything with me by all means use my talk page or email me via my talk page but please don't just post sensational headlines on an article talk page implying "guilt by association".

Regards Bksimonb 04:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Bksimonb,

Dear Bksimonb, it was searchin man via an e-mail that said you three were in direct communication and even provided details of your activities. So, given that I see that there is no personal attacks on my part, as I stated prior I was going to be discreet about this, but since you bring it forward I see no need to be. So, perhaps you need to State in a public way that you do not support sussing people out,tracing IPs, attacking them personally (including starting rumors of others) and that Avyak7Riveros11 andsearchin man are not in direct contact with you or working at your direction. That you do not approve of language that is demeaning, sexually condescending towards females since you profess that you are a woman run organisation. Even though you acknowledge direct contact with them and offering guidance to them on how not to be banned, you have now established a secondary working relationship group. In any effort it is not a good idea to be in contact with others while trying to remain un soiled by their activities while in Official capacity of BKWSU IT team as the PR Voice of BKWSU.

When you came on I had some high hopes of working on a neutral but truthful way. I thought your first posts indicated that the BKWSU was perhaps having some thoughts about the following:

• Child Abuse
• Ex-Member attempting suicide
• Ex-Members committing suicide
• Member being asked to break all contact with their families
• Ex-Members having sever psychological problems due to the Tenents/Teachings/Indoctrination
• Ex-Members not being offered any Exit counseling.....

That is why I was so happy to address you as I truly sensed that this was the case, which it apparently is not. See, my motivation is seeing all the post problems and the havoc it causes in the lives of the Ex-BKs and their families. From a PR point I say you are loosing some points in the way Avyak7Riveros11 treated Green108 as I am sensitive to individuals and on-going issues. So, if you, Riveros (with numerous IPs) and Seachin Man see that I am delicate on how I handle a few....it is because I am aware. Perhaps I am taking on more concern, perhaps some that really should be shouldered by those that told them day after day of Destruction and of jumping off 5 stories to their death if they left. If someone such as my self has taken the time, I pose this to you and the organisation: Why are you not listening to the cries of those that have served you for years/decades, the children abused while in your care and why have you turned a blind eye and continue said practises?

To call some one BROTHER or SISTER is to indicate a bond, a bond that would say that you would carry this individual through times of hardship, to not leave them alone to suffer if it was the system that caused said suffering.

Bksimonb why deny the tenets or teachings. Be truthful, be a light of goodness that does not hide the wrongs, be a soul that is loving, as in loving those in need one find the ultimate truth. Do not abandoned nor thrash these brothers/sisters about for wanting to WARN others of the suffering they have been through or are going through.

Humanity is judged by the way we treat our weakest in society.

So, continue to try and have me banned if that is the only solution you see to hiding the truth.

In closing I must say one thing since Searchin Man has made it public in reference to the individual and that individual’s spouse. To pose even the question would say that you do not know who some of your most loyal people are. Do a little more reading and you will see the truth in bold print.

A lot of what Avyackt7Riveros11 erased had the citation in the bibliography which you have yet to address.PEACE TalkAbout 18:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear User:TalkAbout,

I have no personal interest in whatever email exchange you had with User:Searchin_man. I also don't see it as any concern of yours what communication I have with other editors by email. Other that what I have told you it is our own business who and what we discuss amongst ourselves.

Here is a suggestion. If you believe a user has violated Misplaced Pages's policies then use the correct channels to address this. Keep your complaint only to the user concerned. Do not rant and rave on the discussion page of an article. That is for discussing the article only.

Most of your response seems to consist of a rant against the organisation and my not addressing the points you raise. Let me make it clear that I am not here to address that. It is beyond the remit of the IT team of an organisation to answer to sensational allegations. I am here to stop the damage the article is causing the organisation by the disinformation and bias it currently consists of. I intend to do this by learning how Misplaced Pages works and bringing the article up to a standard more appropriate for an encyclopedia. I am confident I will achieve this simply by following Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines and taking the sound advice from admins such as User:Rholton.

Also, if you really want to rant about the organisation why not find a more appropriate outlet such as a personal blog? Misplaced Pages is just simply not for that purpose.

Finally, as to whether I trying to get you banned, well, that is really in your hands. You always have the option to remain civil and respectful of other editors, their beliefs and their affiliations.

Regards Bksimonb 06:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

Bksimonb,

First, Sir I feel personally attacked by this: “Do not rant and rave on the discussion page of an article. That is for discussing the article only." I have been civil to you and your members of the Brahma Kumaris organisation. What I see here is that you are trying to work the system to hide your true practices, to suit your PR needs under a shield of "verifiable" sources approved by your members, while leaving others out that are quite legitimate. The truth cannot be forever shielded in secrecy. TalkAbout 21:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Not sure if you are still around. I've been away for a while myself. Anyway, you are right that the last remarks I made were a bit harsh and perhaps uncivil. They may not technically break the NPA policy but are probably not in the spirit of it. I sincerly appologise for any offense caused. I should have used a more appropriate tone to express my views.

I am sorry I can not agree with your views about the BKWSU and my affiliation with it but I hope we can put this behind us and proceed with the same mutual regard that we started out with. Regards Bksimonb 19:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Iraq War

It seems the user is moving the bulk of the text to Rationale for the Iraq War. - RoyBoy 05:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Leland Yee

I left a response to your message in the talk page. Kowloonese 03:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Brahma Kumaris

Hello,

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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Srikeit 17:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Notes

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=145715950&oldid=145715378 http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=145715950

Vegemite

Yes I heard about that, it is a strange case, the actual FDA regulation stipulates that folic acid must be added to bread and cereals, but recently a few customs officials have started to interpret that as it must not be added to anything else, and have gone so far as to search the baggage of anyone who has an Australian accent (presumably they don't have anything better to look for). So far my illicit Vegemite smuggling ring (one jar in return in return for letting visitors stay with me) has kept me in stock ;)

Thank you for my cheese, and have a great day :) Sad mouse 20:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

recent note

hi talkabout,

What you have bought up has already been sorted out and it was concluded that it was not a personal attack, and any negative results have been rectified. I am no longer involved with wiki content, so any further comment or questions are unlikely to be seen and replied too.

thank you.

jesselp 18:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Babb Redemptive encounters

I am looking for more references for the article Sathya Sai Baba and Beliefs and practices in the Sathya Sai Baba movement. I understand that you may have Babb's book that contains a chapter about Sathya Sai Baba. I would be very happy if you could use it to expand or to reference mentioned articles. I would be even more happier if you could send me excerpts of the article or even a copy of the article. Andries 19:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't know if I will get into editing Sathya Sai Baba or wait until the arb case is done? :-)20:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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Temporary Injunction

A temporary injunction has been passed in Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Brahma Kumaris. All editors listed as a party to this case are banned from editing Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University until the case is settled.

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Hi, left a message on your talk page, it is OK to delete.PEACETalkAbout 07:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Bustos Media LLC

My main criticism of your page are the description of the owners, as the educational details seem resume-like, which is not allowed on wikipedia. If you changed that part it would no longer read like an ad.

On a side note, there is a certain format that business articles should have that I'm afraid I don't know much about. You may want to consider a layout akin to Ford Motor Company which has the info box to mention notable people in the company.

I'm afraid I can't offer very much help other than that, as I just patrol new pages. Thanks! Cmw4117 18:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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Bkell, All items have been fixed. PEACETalkAbout 18:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your work. Everything looks fine now. —Bkell (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Steve Poizner

I've put in some new section headers that will hopefully make it easier to navigate. Thanks for pointing that out. The infobox was gone before I had ever seen the page, so I don't know what happened to that. OCNative 05:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Brahma Kumaris

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

195.82.106.244 is banned for one year for a personal attack which contained a threat against another user . 195.82.106.244 is placed on Probation. He may be banned from editing any article which he disrupts by engaging in aggressive biased editing, especially that relying on inadequately sourced original research. Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University is placed on article probation. The principals in this matter are expected to convert the article from its present state based on original research and BK publications to an article containing verifiable information based on reliable third party sources. After a suitable grace period, the state of the article may be evaluated on the motion of any member of the Arbitration Committee and further remedies applied to those editors who continue to edit in an inappropriate manner. Any user may request review by members of the Arbitration Committee. Should any user violate a ban imposed under the terms of this decision, they may be blocked for an appropriate period of time. All blocks to be logged at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Brahma Kumaris#Log of blocks and bans.

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List of psychiatrists

• Thanks for the compliment on the list! I hope you feel better soon. Which template are you referring to? Smee 16:11, 18 January 2007 (UTC).

AfD consensus

Hi. I see you edited the vfd, after it had been closed. I will not remove it, but please refrain from modifying it after the debate is closed, unless you have something important to say. Thank you. AstroHurricane001 22:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone else removed your comment. At least it's in the edit history. I did not remove it at any point. AstroHurricane001 00:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar!

• Thank you so much! This was unexpected and a real treat, it's been fun learning about the graphic design stuff lately... Smee 00:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

SimonB of Microsoft

Actually, if you knew me you'd know how ridiculous the above heading is since I'm actually a keen open source advocate and don't use their OS or other software if I can at all help it. In relation to the thread on the BKWSU talk page I think the example of Microsoft is different since, according to the CNN report, they are actually intending to pay a blogger to represent them on Misplaced Pages. I have always been clear about who I am and what my conflict of interest is and this is detailed in my statement to Arbitration . And no one's paying me!

I'm here because the BKWSU article was presenting an aggressive and biased account and obviously we were hearing about it from people. It would be nice if we could have just send an email to Misplaced Pages and ask them to sort it out but I don't think that's how it works here. Look at it from our perspective. What options do we have? Though this is a massive time and energy sink the only option seems to be for someone, namely me, to sign up as an editor and join in the editing process. Fortunately I enjoy it (sometimes) and it is a great opportunity to learn (always) so I take back the "time and energy sink" comment but you can hopefully see what an organisation is potentially lumbered with on account of this wonderful Misplaced Pages thing and some of the editors that frequent it. Now I understand that as an editor with a "conflict of interest" I am "strongly discouraged" from editing the BKWSU article. Well, if I could be assured that a neutral editor would take up the task to be proactive in challenging poorly sourced, biased or aggressive editing of this an other articles I would gladly take a holiday or contribute to other articles I find interesting (having gone to all the trouble of becoming an editor and all). However, what I am observing is that only editors with a vested in interest in a topic like the BKWSU are actually prepared to do this. So I guess it's down to me and other concerned editors then. You may call this "whitewash" if you want but you can be darned sure that if there is any way I can challenge what I see as undue weighting, bias or inadequate references against the BKWSU and inappropriate behaviour by opposing editors towards me or the article then be rest assured that challenge I will :-)

If you feel I am doing something underhand, and, if as you suggest, you have documented this, then by all means raise a request for investigation, or whatever Misplaced Pages procedure you feel is most appropriate to deal with it. In the meantime, is it too much to ask that we keep whatever issues you have with me, or other editors, out of the article discussion pages so that we can concentrate on the article(s)?

Now I'm asking you, in the interest of fairness, if it is possible that we can work together to create a more balanced article that includes an account of criticism and/or controversies. I wouldn't go as far as to say the article is an advert as such since it doesn't really push anything that I can see (except the CNG project that I only just noticed. Yikes!). However I do take your point about the lack of these sections creating an impression that there is no criticism or controversy. Of course it would have to be NPOV, especially with regards to undue weight . Even the BKWSU's own books such as Adi Dev document the early reactions to the organisation, as do books like "Peace an Purity". Right now I am gathering reliable secondary sources, as I see you have too, but I have to admit that actually adding content to an article is proving more of a challenge to me, in terms of my research/writing ability, than I thought it would be. I'd be interested to hear where you are up to with this. Not because I think I "OWN" the article or anything but simply to see if it is possible for us to work together in a more relaxed and less confrontational setting.

Thanks & regards Bksimonb 11:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Bksimonb,

Listen, please understand that what ever future edits I make, are not personal and that I am just doing the research. If I find some thing of notability I will place that in as well as I do not believe in being one sided. Understand that I am being truthful here. Now as to Avyakt7. I find his attacks very unproductive and his "tone" demeaning. I think he has shown this tactic to work in getting others to give up on editing the article with great success I might say.

In addition I would like it if you would stop referring to "gorillas" when addressing me or points about me. If you must know I consider myself bi-racial. So, please take note, refrain from this as I do want to work with you, Appledell,and others in a positive fashion. Keep in mind that ALL people are beautiful and trying to get at them via a racial means is not civil and self degrading of the individual doing it and those they represent!

I understand that you are very competent in programming (glad to see you believe in open source) and considered one of the best on the IT TEAM. So, if you profess that it is not a TEAM effort I will note that once again. In the interim, let us clear the slate and begin a new and hopefully some thing can be worked out or at the very least some level of decorum can be gained. PEACETalkAbout 19:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Talkabout. Sorry not much time to respond in full right now except to say that Guerilla and Gorilla are two entirely different words with different meanings. No racist connotation at all. By "guerilla tactics" I mean sudden, targeted overwhelming attacks such as the hail of edits we see from 244's sockpuppet Some People.

In accordance with Thatcher131's advice I suggest we work with the article as it is now. No doubt we have widely different POV but I am sure we can work it out with understanding. I hope you don't mind if I start making some bold edits soon since there was quite a bit of carnage last night from our POV ;-)

Regards Bksimonb 13:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

BKWSU

Sir,

I thank you for keeping your comments off my talk page. I have no wish to become involved in whatever nonsense has gone before.

As you were one of the contributors involved in the edit warring and arbitration case, I am not entirely sure what your opinions are worth and suggest that you take your own advice, helping to move the topic forward by adding your own references and citations.

Some people 01:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Some People,

That would be fine with me but the article is for all to work on and if you don't want corrections made then add the complete citations not just part and that would solve the problem. In addition I do believe that the committee's resolution is binding on those involved and any that partake currently. See the note above the article. PEACETalkAbout 02:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Gavin Newsom

The Misplaced Pages doesn't permit people to speculate about posters' identifies on Talk pages. Please refrain from discussing Ragone at Newsom's talk page. It demeans Misplaced Pages. Griot 17:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Peter Ragone

Griot, I wasn't trying to disclose his identity rather pointing out that there was a full article about this in the Chronicle and that he admitted doing this when he is the paid spokesman. I do believe it is against wikipedia policy to have paid editors here on the articles ala microsoft .Frankly I think the Gavin Newsom article should have a critical section that includes his refusal of meeting with the voters and supervisors, the possible loss of the 49ers and his Chief spokesman's activities. So, I will let you be the judge as to if you believe it merits an entry…. Also, keep in mind this was posted there since 6/2006 and there wasn’t any reprimand on the one that posted it. Only this user got the reprimand since I provided a link to an actual news story on the very subject (I did note wikipedia was not mentioned). Possible entry:

Critical

Newsom's chief spokesman Peter Ragone admitted posting comments on local news-oriented Web sites using the identity of other people.

TalkAbout 21:40, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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Aging in place

The only problem you had was with the closing ref tags. They should be </ref>, not <ref/>. That's what messed with your article. I was about to put a speedy-delete tag on it, but when I opened it up to edit, I saw all that other text and wondered what was wrong. Glad to help. Realkyhick 08:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

• Answered you on my talk page. Smee 18:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for the barnstar! It's the first I've received. (I've awarded a few.) Realkyhick 04:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

SSB template

Hi there. Rather than reverting, please discuss your edits on the talk-page. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an appropriate Manual of Style that we can consult but I've asked some editors for their input. Ekantik 16:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

, missed this one. I think the compromise works. Thanks.:-)PEACETalkAbout 16:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Juan Gabriel

Any time :) If it creeps back, take it out again unless they can source it. We're trying to live up to standards here, after all! :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the wise advice...will do.PEACETalkAbout 16:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Christian view

TalkAbout Replied on my talk page and on article . Regards Bksimonb 21:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks & welcome back

Hi TalkAbout. It's good to see you back again! I was concerned you might have been mortally mortified :-O

I liked your tactful response. I can learn from posts like that. I have notified AMA about the sensitivity issue you drew my attention to so that any issues that arise will be dealt with tactfully. Thanks for letting me know.

Regards Bksimonb 15:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you...

... for your kind comments that you like my current user page look. It is most appreciated. Smee 21:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Clarification

It was smee voting for me. Lsi john 17:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I asked as I couldn't find the log for it...? I thought your vote was to oppose, so I just wanted it clarified as the voting has not taken a time log..approach. Is it your position and if so, make the corrections to it and proceed onward. I have a high regard for Smee and so felt open in asking about it. Smee is a very hard worker, works on a variety of subjects and I have always found him to be a fair person. We, haven't met. Greetings/salutations to you, may we work well in the future.:-) Always keep in mind that if I find some thing, it is merely a fact and not a personal thing. I read several newspapers, read things that normal folks find no interest in and I am intrigued by a mystery/puzzle/riddle/unfinished story(recording events via photos). PEACETalkAbout 17:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Lsi john, no worries...issue has been fixed.

PEACETalkAbout 17:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Now I'm confused. We seem to be discussing two completely separate articles and votes. I was responding to the link you left on Smee's page here. Lsi john 18:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Lsi john, Listen, I think there is some software issue here as I didn't remove any votes. I now even wonder if Smee placed a vote for you, but rather some one else. I am now concerned if other edits are disappearing. I would be a happy camper with say one vote (record kept), then a second one (record kept), as in the current state one can't figure out what happened. Wouldn't you agree? Edit conflict... PEACETalkAbout 18:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Lsi john, The lesson here for both of us is let him respond so we won't go in circles. So, go and vote on the second one please if you like. But, nice to meet you at any rate.PEACETalkAbout 18:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Lou Papan

On 22 May, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lou Papan, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Aquarius &#149; talk 03:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Congratulations! I think this is your first DYK?

If you wish, you can now utilize the userbox: {{User DYK|1}}, and the number can be adjusted to show number of created articles appeared on DYK, which looks a little something like: {{User DYK}}, (plus the number inserted).

You can also utilize the user box {{User Did You Know}}, by inserting {{User Did You Know|Lou Papan}} on your userpage. Smee 05:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC).

Smee, Thank you for the info above I will try it out and if I run into trouble I will ask for help. Lou, was bigger than life and could he work a room. Very nice man, took the time for young people, very personable and his aides were some of the best young minds within the party. Thank you for doing such a nice info box and fixing it up...looks very good now.TalkAbout 05:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Congratulations again on your first DYK. Smee 05:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC).

Smee, Good thing I am not a programmer...can't seem to get that working. Can you place it below my message/e-mail? Thanks, once I see how it is supposed to be I can get the gist of it.ThanksTalkAbout 06:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Um, it's really easy - just add {{User Did You Know|Lou Papan}}, and/or (could be both) {{User DYK|1}}, to your list of userboxes, somewhere in the list. Smee 06:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC).
  • Looks like you've got it. Happy authoring! Smee 06:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC).

Smee, I am impressed, you taught me to fish, rather than handing it to me! Good on ya (teaching qualities are rare)...you really should consider being an Admin! I would vote for you. PEACETalkAbout 06:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you. Interestingly enough, you are the third individual that has suggested this recently... Smee 06:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC).
  • The code for the reflist I did is simply, {{reflist}} -- Smee 22:59, 27 May 2007 (UTC).

note

BKsb

• http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Third_opinion&diff=prev&oldid=145737446
• http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Religion_and_philosophy
• http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=149830173 Removing editing
• http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Religion_and_philosophy&diff=next&oldid=148708726
• http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement Faith and Green108

Lou Papan

No problem. Indeed, it must've been confusing :) --Kimon 01:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Moral support

Hello. While I commend your offering moral support to Smee, I was disappointed to see you "taking sides" as if this is between Smee and I (or between Smee and Lsi john). Smee was blocked for the 6th time for disruptive behavior by a totally disinterested admin. Listen, there are qualities about Smee that I like and admire too and I urge her to build on those qualities. I am going to expand on that theme on my user talk page in an Open Letter to Smee (ps, there is nothing there that is meant to refer to you). Please do not further the contentious behavior by "taking sides". Regarding your specific points: spiritual spacecraft can be linked to spiritual spacecraft, not UFOs. And, why not stub an article for protocol module? I was going to do it for you but there are a few different usages of the term and I am not sure which one you are interested in. Take care. --Justanother 13:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Justanother, I appreciate that you took the time to write me for the following reasons. I frankly value you, think you are very bright and productive. As, you may know I don't like inappropriate words thrown about, or naughty suggestive ones. That said, given my background I can honestly say to you, that I have defended ones right to religion in a manner, time given and effort for many years and continue to today even though not in a formal manner. That said, I have always felt and believed that the right to religious practices can only be protected with freedom of information. In fact I was told/informed that this topic of Freedom of Information might interest you but had not approached it as I have not finished doing research on the project. I had informed Smee about a future project and as usual Smee is always willing to help.

• It grieves me to see the current state of affairs. I can recall that at one point Smee was considering leaving wikipedia and during that time I began to communicate with Smee on his/her talkpage. Now, I see Misplaced Pages as being a collaborative process, hopefully filled with wiki love and good wiki will. Imagine the idea of strangers coming together to work on some thing for the good of others throughout the world, giving of their time, effort and exchanging thoughts in the process, is truly remarkable. I value this venue as books are disappearing from the libraries and electronic media is being pushed forward as a replacement. Now as to the number of blocks you mention, I did see some of the early ones and in my opinion the individuals that brought it on were primarily inciting and causing mischief. Given the amount of work Smee produces, if one were to take assessment of said work the blocks would be a very small entry. That said, Smee has always been very contrite, and polite. I admire that Smee takes the higher road, doesn't attack but is willing to discuss things that most will not.

I am sorry you feel disappointed in me, or see it as "taking sides". I am glad to see that you are extending a hand of friendship to Smee and that you do find Smee of value here in the wikipedia community. That brings hope to my heart in that we can all get along and move on. My tea invite is still open.PEACETalkAbout 16:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

• TalkAbout, I wasn't going to post here, though I, too, saw your posting on Smee's talkpage. Having seen your response now, I would like to go on-record with you for a couple of things.

First, and most important, I would like to state very clearly that I am not happy that Smee is blocked. There is no joyous dancing in the streets going on. I find the entire situation very distasteful, unpleasant and quite sad. It is hurtful both to Misplaced Pages in general and to all the involved editors in particular.

For myself, I was not disappointed that you reached out to Smee. I was disappointed that you implied that the block was somehow unjust and that Smee is a great leader and that Smee had done nothing wrong and then you hummed we shall overcome as if to compare her situation to the persecution of the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the plight of negro slaves.

Your comments served to undermine and minimize the entire reason for the block. The fact is that Smee broke the rules, by using Revert as an editing tool and as a technique for content dispute resolution. This is an ongoing pattern of behavior and it is a problem. It was recognized by an outside admin, with no knowledge of any of the involved parties. And the admin took an action that was reviewed, and supported, by a second uninvolved admin.

You commented that you are glad Smee is reflecting. So am I. It is important that Smee take this opportunity to reflect on his editing practices. Comments that suggest that the block was unjust, or that someone else should have also been blocked, or that there is a noisy investigation will derail that reflection and are counter productive. Smee, and Smee alone, "is responsible" for Smee's decisions, conduct and actions.

Its ironic, actually, that the very trainings which Smee writes so strongly against, teach the concept of Personal Responsibility and Responsible Behavior and accepting the consequences of our choices and actions.

If you read Smee's talkpage (since the block), you will note that he begins each conversation by acknowledging that he was blocked for his conduct. But the more he is encouraged by others, with suggestions of unfairness in the block and overcoming, the more he begins to shift the focus away from himself (personal responsibility), and toward blaming other editors for his predicament (victim). Please be careful not to encourage conversations in this direction. It is his own behavior that he needs to be looking at right now.

Misplaced Pages needs Smee. But Misplaced Pages needs a Smee that can work in concert with other editors. Misplaced Pages needs a Smee that doesn't have to own every article. Misplaced Pages needs a Smee that doesn't use Revert as a standard edit response.

Misplaced Pages needs Smee's research capability, to locate sources. But, Misplaced Pages needs a Smee that finds sources for all sides of the issues, not just the sources which support a single point of view.

Misplaced Pages needs Smee's wkfy knowledge. But Misplaced Pages needs a Smee that can offer suggestions to editors, rather than cleaning up every edit for them.

Smee brings value to Misplaced Pages that nobody else can bring. Because, Smee is a unique individual, with unique views. But Misplaced Pages is a community that contains lots of editors, who must work in harmony and follow the rules. Misplaced Pages, and the articles here, are not something that anyone owns. So, Misplaced Pages needs a Smee who can work cooperatively with other editors, in a community with diverse views.

As my final thought, TalkAbout, I request that you neither suggest, encourage, support, nor allow this to be an "us against them" situation. We must all work together. When a parent spanks (or grounds) a child, it rarely seems fair to the child and it almost always gives pain to the parent. (I'm sure you've heard this hurts me more than it hurts you). And the spanking (or grounding) generally has nothing to do with the parent, and everything to do with the conduct of the child. (And lets not take that analogy too literally, as its the message that is important not the example. ok? thanks).

We each bring our own perspective (thats the us), and then we are supposed to write from a place of NPOV (thats the WE). There is no them, there need not be an against and there is nothing to overcome.

To Smee: I think you are an asset to Misplaced Pages and I look forward to the day we work together in harmony to create high quality great articles that get featured.

Happy Editing. Peace in God. Lsi john 18:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Lsi john,

First, I take issue with interjecting ML in the fray. As a person of color I have my communication style and I was communicating with Smee (so, I thought). That chorus goes beyond what you state (please check....as I do believe "slavery" was resolved during the civil war, but civil rights were the issue during ML's time), and is a song of courage/contemplative PEACE. As a young person I was called the "N" word, yet I choose to take the high road, when it is bantered about by others here, as I see it being used to serve another purpose. There is but a few degrees of separation you see, and that is the reason I choose to refer to myself as a person of color. Only in recent years did I realize that I had a very unusual childhood, saw things people only read about and it does trouble me when young people get mixed up about history. I can recall a couple of months back correcting some young speaker on the "Struggle in the South" and later telling an old timer about it. Find out why Bill Clinton is referred to as the "First Black" president.

Secondly, in my real life I often mentor young men, (you and another imply Smee is a she, no problem) and yes, I try to encourage leadership skills/attributes in all young people(Lsi john, you too can be a leader if you choose). Often in life we stumble, we pick ourselves up and continue. I see nothing wrong in offering a hand, or a word of encouragement. I do think that Smee is doing self reflection, which is good and was glad to see that Justanother is extending his hand out to Smee. Now, should I be silent in expressing my opinion here? Is my opinion that valued? Now, this is the second time you answer for Smee?!?

I see one being able to over come adversity in a positive way, seeing that it builds character, fortitude and enables the person to become an asset to society. I never inferred a them vs us mentality. Working together collaboratively is some thing that needs to be fostered. I did say to Smee "onward". Which translates to learn and move on. Don't give up. We all have value, we all have things to give/convey.

• Many times in my life I have been told to but out. This would not be the first nor the last I suspect.
• As to spanking the child:Smee is an adult. I have never spanked a child as I don't believe in violence as a means to solving a problem and I don't believe in harsh words as they too can cause damage, even more deeply than say a swat.

So, Lsi john, lets move on from here and try to be civil to one another. I have placed your message to Smee on his/her talkpage.PEACETalkAbout 21:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

AMEN:Case closed...TalkAbout 21:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Sir, (as an analyst I'll address your points in order)

a) I had no idea you were a person of any color whatsoever. And now that I know, it's still not important. To me, you are a person. Color, gender, race, sexual preference, and most other things are irrelevant. It's our conduct that defines who we are, not our color.

b) I meant absolutely no disrespect to Mr King whatsoever. None. Zero. If you took offense, then I apologize and request that you re-read it. The song you hummed relates to an ugly and shameful period in American History for parties on both sides of that situation. Without getting into a civil rights discussion (please?), the people who sang that song felt oppressed and vowed to overcome the oppression. My usage of the words 'negro slaves' was technically incorrect, and I offer to retract them in favor of 'oppressed negro population' if you prefer. It was the meaning, not my specific choice of words, which was important. For any offense taken, again I apologize. Neither offense, nor disrespect was intended to you, nor Mr King.

c) As a general rule, I try to address Smee as a he. I have been told both, and Smee has specifically refused to publicly clear up the question/confusion. I think it would be polite of him to clarify, but in this case privacy is not something I would deny him.

d) I did request that you not pick at the specifics of my spanking/grounding example. It was the concept I was trying to get across, not that Smee is a child. It was the best example I could think of at the time, and I included 'grounded' as an alternate substitution in the example. I tried to be clear about this, and I'm disappointed to see you miss the point and somehow feel that I was calling Smee a child or that I endorsed spanking. An analogy is not intended to be analyzed in detail. It is used to explain a position, without getting bogged down (and side tracked) in the details of the real situation.

The point was, whether preventative or punitive, user blocks hurt both the user and the community. And, its rare that a user will feel the block is just or fair. Encouraging a user to believe the block is unfair or unjust, is no different than a neighbor telling your child that you spanked (or grounded/punished/diciplined) him unfairly. It undermines your authority and your rules, and it's wrong.

e) I've never been uncivil to you, nor (to my knowledge) you to me. So I will take your remark as rhetorical.

f) Thank you. It was unnecessary to post it on Smee's page, but thank you for doing so. I know that he will eventually read this and, given my prior experience with him, many of the things I have said here may be hard for him to accept at face value. I wanted to include positive feedback for Smee and let him know that I do value his contributions. It's the way he contributes that is the problem.

Peace in God. Yours, Lsi john 23:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Lsi john,

Thank you for the analysis and yes I do like politeness as I see it works wonders. Now, just an FYI as you may not know, it is Black, not "negro"! For example:Driving while Black or Brown. As to " Encouraging a user to believe the block is unfair or unjust" is neither here nor there. Smee has taken it like a big girl and is busy dreaming up little info boxes or other articles I imagine. Now, if you want my personal opinion, parity would have served best. Now, consider that I think Justanother is a very bright person and has a notable sense of humour.

I do thank you for the analysis, no hard feelings and yes we all have a way of seeing the world. PEACE and Good Will to you.TalkAbout 00:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 7 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 2007 De Anza baseball players rape case, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Great job! Smee 07:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC) .

Thank you for all your help Smee and thanks to the DYK folks. PEACETalkAbout 16:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

• No worries. Others have commented by the way that it is a very well sourced article. You may want to solicit some help however, on copyediting and structuring. Smee 20:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC).

Where do I request this? Where are the comments?PEACETalkAbout 21:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Copyediting -- You could start by asking for copyediting help from User:Anchoress. Smee 21:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC).

Cyber Doctor merge

Hello. I've proposed merging Cyber Doctor and Cybermedicine. Since you created Cyber Doctor, I'd be grateful for your thoughts on this over at the talk page Talk:Cybermedicine. Thanks, Clicketyclack 10:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Revert was not a mistake

Hi Talkabout. The stuff I reverted was content that was cleaned up by Utcursch as part of the cleanup. It was re-inserted by Green108 and so it since Utcursch's edits were valid and should not have been undone without reaching a consensus in discussion. The material has been reverted several times by various editors now so I appreciate that it may not be immediately clear what the history is. I would be grateful if you could reverse the damage since the last thing I want is to get caught in an edit war (3RR and all that).

Much appreciated Bksimonb 19:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

I don't believe you. I'm not involved in editing the article, have no side to take, but I can recognize a sock when it appears an hour after a block is extended. Have a nice day, and please don't post on my talk page again. Thanks. IPSOS (talk) 05:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any block on my page and why did you put a sign on my front page. You sir are in essence calling me a liar. I am not anyone else, I always sign in as myself and do not find your unfounded accusations just and rather biased. I am requesting that you provide the complaint desk for Admins. TalkAbout 06:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFAR

Just so you know, User:IPSOS is not an admin. Flyguy649 _contribs 07:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for advising me of this. So, then may I remove his tag from my User page? Thank You, you wouldn't believe upsetting this was to me. PEACETalkAbout 08:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Also note that it wasn't me that filed the checkuser you refer to. Check the history of it. I filed another one earlier that did not include you. Regards Bksimonb 12:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

If you return to the requests for arbitration page, you will see that a checkuser/arbitrator has indicated that the sock allegation is not correct. Based on this, the matters seems resolved, and it would be in order for you to now withdraw the request for arbitration. As I am an Arbitration Committee Clerk, if you indicate that this is acceptable I will take care of the "paperwork." Thank you, Newyorkbrad 14:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, and sorry to have troubled you. I do thank you for resolving that I am not a sockpuppet. Sincerely/PEACE TalkAbout 19:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Apologies

Sorry for misidentifying you as a sockpuppet. I guess you simply had the misfortune to choose to reappear on the scene just 1 hour after Green108 had his block extended for evading it. Sometimes these things are just coincidence, it seems. IPSOS (talk) 01:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Please note the manner in which you make your comments to others as you conveyed some authority, which I have learned you do not have. I hold no rancor toward you and bid you a good day. PEACETalkAbout 19:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

IPSOS's Special Treatment

I have a question and it is one of equity. Why is IPSOS allowed to post inciting comments on others talkpages (and Users Pages) and when challenged in a perfectly well mannered way he opts out by "don't post on my talk page again". Keep in mind in my case he was claiming I was a sockpuppet and with Admin like authority went and posted this on my User Page . His tone was not too pleasant either. Now I see he has done this to another member and gone and cried wolf here, but please note that he failed to mention he posted this on this User's Page just as he did with me.

• I am bothering to write to you for two reasons. First, this type of action by IPSOS is contrary to a positive working experience here and is lacking in the wikispirit. Second, is that when he does this (posting on other User's Page) he is stepping beyond his authority and intimidating other Users which is plain wrong. Lastly, in my case I found his actions to be non-productive and using up resources that could be spent on "real" issues rather than his assumptions. So, in the act of parity perhaps you might find it fitting to tell him to stop placing "assumptions" that discredit others without validity. Thank you for your time with regards to these issues. PEACETalkAbout 19:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Please note

1) Wikilinks are never put in headings 2) External links should be titled with the actual title from the site being linked. 3) Punctuation goes before ref tags, with no space or line break.

Observing these rules might make you edits slightly less annoying to other editors. Edit warring to put these blatant mistakes back is idiotic. IPSOS (talk) 01:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Please also note

Misplaced Pages does not allow linking to mailing lists, bulletin boards, forums, etc. or their archives. We should also not link to free-hosted sites, such as on infogami.com. Sorry. IPSOS (talk) 01:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

De Anza case at AfD

Hello. This is a courtesy notice that I have nominated for deletion an article you have created or edited, 2007 De Anza baseball players rape case. The deletion discussion may be found here. Thanks, Wikidemo (talk) 11:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Person Centred Planning Peer Review

You've contributed in the past to Person Centred Planning Your opinion in the peer review that is going on will be very valued. Max (talk) 18:26, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

newspaper article

Hello. My name is Mary Spicuzza and I'm a reporter with SF Weekly newspaper. I'm working on an article about Misplaced Pages and would love to speak with you. May I give you a call or send you an email? Best, Mary Spicuzza Staff Writer SF Weekly (415) 659-2070 phone Mary.Spicuzza@sfweekly.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marynega (talk • contribs) 01:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

newspaper article

Hello. My name is Mary Spicuzza and I'm a reporter with SF Weekly. I'm working on an article about Misplaced Pages and would love to speak with you. May I give you a call or send you an email? Thanks for your time, Mary Spicuzza Staff Writer SF Weekly (415) 659-2070 phone Mary.Spicuzza@sfweekly.comMarynega (talk) 01:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I don't do wikipedia interviews, please contact their public relations department or the "HELP" desk. PEACETalkAbout (talk) 02:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hillary campaign photos

Hi. Thanks for adding the Hillary campaign photos that you took on February 1. But I'd also like to know the location of where the event took place, so I can add that in the captions. I'm guessing somewhere in California, but could you tell me the exact venue and town? Thanks. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the location id. I added your "supporters photo" that got pulled from the article, to the South Hall (San Jose) article, since it showed the structure well. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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The Judaism Newsletter Issue III -- Av, 5768 WikiProject Judaism (/to do) WikiProject Jewish History (/to do) WikiProject Kabbalah (/to do)

"Censorship" of names of G-d There is an interesting discussion currently taking place regarding whether or not it is acceptable to censor (i.e. G-d, HaShem->YodHey) names of G-d in articles to protect Jews who may be reading or editing the article. You can weigh in here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism#Yahweh. Article Cleanup Lists User:B. Wolterding has generously offered us use of his bot to generate lists that show which articles of ours are tagged for cleanup. You can read more about this service here: User:B._Wolterding/Cleanup_listings and if you would like to take him up on his offer, contact him on his talk page. In the News There is a collaboration drive to get Holocaust in Lithuania to good article status. For information about how you can help, see the talk page or contact User:Piotrus. WikiProject Kabbalah's only Featured and Good articles have been removed from the WikiProject, on the grounds that neither article (Diane Keaton and David Beckham, respectively) actually mention the subject's affiliation with Kabbalah. If you have sourced information linking either of these people to Kabbalah, please add it so the articles can be returned to the WikiProject. After a rather heated discussion, there are now two barnstars for use by the Jewish WikiProjects, {{The Jewish Barnstar}} and {{The New Jewish Barnstar}}, and you can choose which one you would like to use.. Remember: barnstars are for rewarding users who are doing good work on the project or on Judaism, Jewish History, or Kabbalah articles, and anyone can give anyone else a barnstar. If you see a user who you thinks deserves a thank you, give them a barnstar! To Do/Help Requests If you have some spare time on your hands, we could use an article about a Kabbalah scholar named Moshe Idel. According to HG there are quite a few sources easily available, you can contact him if you have questions. Be sure to nominate it for DYK if the finished article is eligible. The folks at Shimon Peres need some assistance from someone familiar with both the Hebrew calendar and language to help them figure out the subject's birthday. If you can help, please see Talk:Shimon_Peres#Birthday. New Members Judaism: Arigont, Avi, CheskiChips, Pini00001, Shirulashem, TaliaNadel, Tyciol, yehoshuafriedla Jewish History: 5768altalena, AniMate, User:Yosef.garibaldi.gmail, Pinnecco, Shirulashem, Tyciol Kabbalah: Shuliavrumi New Articles Bezalel Rudinsky (thanks Shirulashem!}, Jewish tartan (thanks Briangotts!), Hebrew spelling (thanks Epson291) We get a lot of articles that are being created and not announced! By announcing new articles, you attract attention to them, and the more people looking and editing the better they will get. If you would like your new article to appear in the newsletter, add it here for Judaism and Kabbalah and here for Jewish History. There are some 40 odd standing requests for Judaism related articles. Please make them! I would, but I'm too busy writing this. . Quick Links Judaism Portal Kabbalah Portal Israel Portal Articles for Deletion Request for Comment Article Requests WikiProject Judaism Stats 291 Project Members 6248 articles 2356 of which are Stubs 18 of which are Good 6 of which are Featured WikiProject Jewish History Stats 77 Project Members 1141 articles 244 of which are Stubs 10 of which are Good 10 of which are Featured WikiProject Kabbalah Stats 13 Project Members 165 articles 87 of which are Stubs 0 of which are Good 0 of which are Featured Misplaced Pages ads file info – #148

This newsletter was automatically delivered because you are a member of one or more Judaism related WikiProjects. If you would like to opt out of future mailings, please remove your name from this list. As always, please direct all questions, comments, requests, barnstars, offers of help, and angry all-caps anti-semitic rants to my talk page. Thanks, and have a great month. L'Aquatique 20:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

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Reminder! Women's History Month edit-a-thon

Just a friendly reminder about the Misplaced Pages Edit-a-Thon for Women's History Month :)

Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012 from 1:00 PM to 5:00 PM (PT)

Location: Wikimedia Foundation Offices 149 New Montgomery Street, 6th floor San Francisco, CA 94105

Bring: Your laptop and charger (we'll have some extra computers available), your questions, and your friends!

What to expect: A fun, laid-back environment with food, drink, a great mix of people, and a wealth of knowledge and resources.

Public transport: BART to Montgomery station and walk 1 block down New Montgomery St.

Reminder: The St. Patricks Day parade will be starting at 11:30 on Market Street. Market street will most likely be closed to cars so please plan your journey accordingly ;-)

When you arrive: A volunteer will be at the front of the building to greet everyone arriving 12:40 - 1:20. You will take the elevator up to the 6th floor.

If you are early: If you expect to come earlier than 12:40 to help set-up, please let us know, so we can give you a contact number.

If you arrive later: No problem. There will be a phone number posted to the front door of the office building. A volunteer will run down and let you in.

We can't wait to see you on Saturday! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 23:32, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thanks for attending the editathon and for writing a great new article! :) Hope to see you again soon! Accedie 03:18, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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Cullen Let's discuss it 18:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

You're invited: San Francisco WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon 2!

San Francisco WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon 2! You are invited!

The San Francisco WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon 2 will be held on Saturday, June 16, 2012 at the Wikimedia Foundation offices in San Francisco. Wikipedians of all experience levels are welcome to join us! This event will be specifically geared around encouraging women to learn how to edit and contribute to Misplaced Pages. Workshops on copy-editing, article creation, and sourcing will be hosted. Bring a friend! Come one, come all! EdwardsBot (talk) 23:34, 22 May 2012 (UTC) · Unsubscribe

San Francisco Wiknic 2012

	San Francisco Wiknic at Golden Gate Park
	You are invited to the second Great American Wikinic taking place in Golden Gate Park, in San Francisco, on Saturday, June 23, 2012. We're still looking for input on planning activities, and thematic overtones. List your add yourself to the attendees list, and edit the picnic as you like. —Max Klein {chat} 18:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for attending the second SF WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon

	Thank you for attending the second SF WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon
	TalkAbout, thank you for attending the edit-a-thon on Saturday. Your contributions to art therapy and Margaret Naumburg are so important to making Misplaced Pages the inclusive resource it is. I'm sorry I wasn't able to talk more with you - but you were surely engrossed in your work. Thank you again, and I hope to see you again soon. Sarah (talk) 20:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

SF Article Review Party! Fun times (and food) for all.

Hi, TalkAbout! As I told you last Saturday, the Education Program team is hosting an Article Review Party at the SF Wikimedia Foundation office on Sunday, June 24th (from 11ish–3ish). We'll provide food, drinks, music, and laughter. You just provide your brilliant mind and acute eye for reviewing articles. If you can spare an hour or two, please sign up and join us on this mirthful occasion. Hope to see you there! JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 22:25, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

You're invited! - Wiki Loves Monuments - San Francisco Events

Hi! As part of Wiki Loves Monuments, we're organizing two photo events in the San Francisco Bay Area and one in Yosemite National Park. We hope you can come out and participate! Feel free to contact User:Almonroth with questions or concerns.

There are three events planned:

• September 15, Saturday - A bike ride along San Francisco's waterfront
• September 22-23rd, Saturday-Sunday - Wiki Takes Yosemite
• September 29, Saturday - A sunset and harvest moon bridges, palace, boats and tower tour

We look forward to seeing you there!

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You're invited! Ada Lovelace Day San Francisco

You're invited! Ada Lovelace Day San Francisco

October 16 - Ada Lovelace Day Celebration - You are invited!

Come celebrate Ada Lovelace Day at the Wikimedia Foundation offices in San Francisco on October 16! This event, hosted by the Ada Initiative, the Mozilla Foundation, and the Wikimedia Foundation. It'll be a meet up style event, though you are welcome to bring a laptop and edit about women in STEM if you wish. Come mix, mingle and celebrate the legacy of the world's first computer programmer. The event is October 16, 5:00 pm - 8:00 pm, everyone is welcome! You must RSVP here - see you there! SarahStierch (talk) 19:53, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Aging in place

Hi, if you have time you might like to check some edits, made today, to your article. Regards Denisarona (talk) 21:23, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit-a-thon tomorrow (Saturday) in Oakland

Hi, I hope you will be joining us tomorrow afternoon at the Edit-a-thon at Tech Liminal, in Oakland. We'll be working on articles relating to women and democracy (and anything else that interests you). It's sponsored by the California League of Women Voters, Tech Liminal, and me.

If this is the first you are hearing of this event, my apologies for the last-minute notice! I announced it on the San Francisco email list and by a banner on your watchlist, but I neglected to look at the San Francisco invitation list until this evening. If you can't make it this time, I hope to see you at a similar event soon! -Pete (talk) 04:54, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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You're invited to the first-ever Misplaced Pages Iconathon!

Help build the visual language of Misplaced Pages at the first ever Wikimedia Foundation/Noun Project Iconathon

The Wikimedia Foundation is partnering up with the Noun Project to run the first-ever Misplaced Pages Iconathon on April 6th at WMF headquarters, and you're invited! What is an Iconathon: An iconathon is a co-design process where Wikimedia staff, the user community, and a few graphic designers collaboratively discuss what symbols could best represent a concept for an icon – for example, what's the best icon for New Editor, Revert or Oversight? Sketches will be converted into high fidelity icons by Noun Project graphic designers, and will be released under a free license for use by anyone on the Internet. Help build the 💕 icon set that anyone in the world can share and reuse! Logistics: The event runs from 10:30 am to 4:30 pm on April 6th at the Wikimedia Foundation office in San Francisco. Follow the signs at the door! We'll have plenty of paper and pens/pencils for sketching. How to sign up: Please register here using the code 'wiki' More info: About the Noun Project About Iconathons

Hope to see you there! :) Maryana (WMF) (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Wiknic 2013

Wiknic 2013
Sunday, June 23rd · 12:34pm · Lake Merritt, Oakland
Theme: Hyperlocal list-making

This year's 2013 SF Wiknik will be held at Lake Merritt, next to Children's Fairyland in Oakland. This event will be co-attended by people from the hyperlocal Oakland Wiki. May crosspollination of ideas and merriment abound!

Location and Directions

• Location: The grassy area due south of Children's Fairyland (here) (Oakland Wiki)
  • Nearest BART: 19th Street
  • Nearest bus lines: NL/12/72
  • Street parking abounds

EdwardsBot (talk) 04:49, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

You're invited...

to two upcoming Bay Area events:

• Maker Faire 2013, Sat/Sun May 18-19, San Mateo -- there will have a booth about Wikimedia, and we need volunteers to talk to the public and ideas for the booth -- see the wiki page to sign up!
• Edit-a-Thon 5, Sat May 25, 10-2pm, WMF offices in San Francisco -- this will be a casual edit-a-thon open to both experienced and new editors alike! Please sign up if on the wiki page if you can make it so we know how much food to get.

I hope you can join us at one or both! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 17:46, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

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You're invited! WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon at the University of California, Berkeley

Saturday, April 5 - WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon at the University of California, Berkeley - You are invited!

The University of California, Berkeley's Berkeley Center for New Media is hosting our first edit-a-thon, facilitated by WikiWoman Sarah Stierch, on April 5! This event, focused on engaging women to contribute to Misplaced Pages, will feature a brief Misplaced Pages policy and tips overview, followed by a fast-paced energetic edit-a-thon. Everyone is welcome to attend. Please bring your laptop and be prepared to edit about women and women's history! The event is April 5, from 1-5 PM, at the Berkeley Center for New Media Commons at Moffitt Library. You must RSVP here - see you there! SarahStierch (talk) 23:57, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

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You're invited! Litquake Edit-a-thon in San Francisco

You are invited! → Litquake Edit-a-thon → See you there!

In the area? You're invited to    San Francisco Meetup # 22   Date: October 11, 2014   Time: 1-5 pm   Place: 149 New Montgomery Street, 6th Floor, San Francisco, CA 94105   prev: Meetup 21 - next: Meetup 23 | All SF meetups & events The Edit-a-thon will occur in parallel with Litquake, the San Francisco Bay Area's annual literature festival. Writers from all over the Bay Area and the world will be in town during the nine day festival, so the timing is just right for us to meetup and create/translate/expand/improve articles about literature and writers. All levels of Misplaced Pages editing experience are welcome. This event will include new editor training. RSVP →here←. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:49, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, requesting help on process of renaming Suicide Prevention Hotline to Suicide Prevention Hotline Play. Thank you to anyone who responds. TalkAbout (talk) 15:41, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Do you have a source that suggests "Play " is apart of the title or does it simply indicate what it is? In such a case it would only be needed if there were two articles by the same name. Mkdw

ArbCom elections are now open!

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Bay Area WikiSalon series kickoff, April 27

Please join us in San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts in the San Francisco Bay Area will gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. We have two brief presentations lined up for our kickoff event in downtown San Francisco:

• The Nueva Upper School recently hosted the first ever high school Misplaced Pages edit-a-thon. We will hear what interests them about Misplaced Pages, what they have learned so far, and what they hope to achieve.
• Photojournalist Kris Schreier Lyseggen, author of The Women of San Quentin: The Soul Murder of Transgender Women in Male Prisons, will tell us about her work and how she researched the topic.

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. We will have beverages and light snacks.

Please note: You must register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on this point.

For further details, see here: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, April 2016

We hope to see you -- and until then, happy editing! - Pete, Ben & Wayne

Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series on May 25

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. We will have beverages and light snacks.

Please note: You must register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on this point.

For further details, see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, May 2016

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See you soon! Pete F, Ben Creasy, and Checkingfax via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2016 (UTC) | Subscribe/Unsubscribe to the SF Meetups notice.

Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, June 29

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We make sure to allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks. We will also have:

• A brief report on Pride edit-a-thon recently held at the San Francisco Publice Library, coordinated by Merrilee:

  What topics might we cover in a follow up?

  Find out more about resources your public library provides to help with editing (hint, it's more than just books!)

  Special announcement (secret for now but come and find out more!)

• Join in on an in person Wikidojo!

  Are you curious how your peers approach writing a Misplaced Pages article? This exercise, pioneered by Wikipedians Nikola Kalchev and Vassia Atanassova in 2015 and conducted in many places around the world, will help us all - from first-time wiki users to veteran Wikipedians - share ideas, while building an article together. If you have ideas (relating to Bay Area history, ideally) about a new article we could build (stubs and short existing articles are fine), please submit them ahead of time to coordinator Pete Forsyth. (User talk page or email is fine.)

  Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!

Please note: You must register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict.

For further details, see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, June 2016

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REMINDER/invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, June 29 at 6 p.m.

Please join us in downtown San Francisco tonight!

If you cannot join in person or want to view portions later:

• To join via Hangout on Air
• Via YouTube Stream

We will have:

• Light snacks, and time to mingle
• A brief report on the Pride edit-a-thon recently held at the San Francisco Public Library, that was coordinated by Wiki editor Merrilee
• A special announcement (secret for now but come and find out more!)
• Join in on a brief in person Wikidojo!
• Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!

Please register at: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cjLRrSTlEkGOPTQ-h6A0WvSFI4ZmIUl6jEHp_RYas-E/viewform and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict.

For further details, see: Bay Area WikiSalon, June 2016

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See you tonight! Pete F, Ben, Stephen and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:48, 29 June 2016 (UTC) | (Subscribe or Unsubscribe to this talk page notice)

Late breaking invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, July 27 (Wednesday) - change of venue - tonight

Please join us in the Mission at Noisebridge (one time change of venue)!

We hope you can join us today, Wednesday, from 6 p.m. on, at our July Bay Area WikiSalon. This month only, we are going to be at Noisebridge, a hackerspace/makerspace 1.5 blocks from the 16th & Mission BART station (see the link for directions). Some of us will be working on the Misplaced Pages article on basic income. All info here. Some good news - we do not have to be as strict about advance RSVP at Noisebridge, so bring spontaneous guests! (Registering ahead of time is still helpful, as always, as it will help us plan ahead.)

Come and hang out, have some light snacks. Wi-Fi is available, so please bring your editing device if you plan to edit.

Also, Pete just published a writeup of the Wikidojo exercise we did last month. Your comments welcome, if he missed anything! http://wikistrategies.net/ghost-town-royals-wikidojo

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. Mark you calendars now.

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:05, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, August 31

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi folks,

We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We make sure to allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks. We will also have a brief presentation for your education and possible enjoyment:

• Former EFF intern Marta Belcher will discuss crowdsourcing her Stanford Law School graduation speech using a wiki. The "WikiSpeech" was the subject of prominent national media attention in 2015, and more than half of her classmates contributed to writing and editing the commencement address via a wiki.

Please note: You should register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on speakers or wiki-related activities.

For further details, see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, August 2016

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:05, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Tonight: Live and archived links for Bay Area WikiSalon

Bay Area WikiSalon, Wednesday, August 31:

If you cannot join us in person tonight, we are streaming (and later archiving) the presentation by former EFF intern Marta Belcher. We expect her to be live starting between 6:30 or 6:45 p.m. PDT and talking and taking questions for about 30 minutes thereafter.

Here is the YouTube stream link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8V79s2-og
Here is the link to join the Hangout on Air: https://hangouts.google.com/call/ezrol7dafjfwxfh2ilpkjyxoaue

You can search for it on the Commons and YouTube later too.

Wayne, Pete, Ben, and Stephen

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:50, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, September 28

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi folks,

We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia enthusiasts gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We will have no formal agenda to allow people to freely share ideas and perhaps learn about Misplaced Pages through hands-on editing. Co-organizer Ben Creasy will be looking at election-related articles to enhance the information available in the upcoming November elections.

Co-organizer Stephen LaPorte has suggested doing an upload-a-thon for Wiki Loves Monuments. Niki, the California coordinator for WLM will be in attendance. WLM is an annual event and the official dealine is Friday the 30th for submissions to count towards awards.

Or, you can grab a couch, a booth, or a stool and do your own thing.

Please note: You should register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on future speakers or wiki-related activities.

For further details, please see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, September 2016. Mark your calendars now for the 3rd Wednesday in October, the 26th, when we will have a brief presentation.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

You are invited to a Wednesday evening event in SF

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi folks,

Please copy and share this on other talk pages. We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia enthusiasts gather at the Wikimedia Foundation lounge to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We will have no meaty agenda this month, but we will allow a brief period for:

• Open mic for anybody who attended WikiConference North America 2016 in San Diego last week and wants to share their takeaway
• Question & answer
• Open mic for announcements
• Maybe a focus on some topical election article editing with Ben?

Or, you can grab a couch, a booth, a stool or counter and do your own thing.

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Please note: You should register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on future speakers or wiki-related activities.

For further details, please see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, October 2016.

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PS: Mark your calendars ahead now for the 3rd Wednesday in November, the 30th (the week after Thanksgiving), at 6 p.m. when our WikiSalon will host a super awesome top secret mystery guest mingling in our midst. We will announce specifics at the upcoming WikiSalon.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:51, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Everybody is invited to the November 30 Bay Area WikiSalon

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

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Details and RSVP here.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:54, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Bay Area WikiSalon series: Everybody is invited this Wednesday evening at 6

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki and open-source enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

Before and after the brief presentation we allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks.

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In addition, this month we will have:

• a brief presentation from User:Cullen328 (Jim Heaphy) about the Misplaced Pages Teahouse
• spontaneous lightning talks from the floor
• community announcements from the floor

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For details and to RSVP see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, December 2016

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See you soon! Ben Creasy and Checkingfax | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here)

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P.S. Any help spreading the word through social media or other avenues is most welcome! We plan to announce this on various sites and invite various groups; if you would like to join in, check our meta planning page, and please note any announcements you are sending out: meta:Monthly WikiSalon in San Francisco#Announcements and promotion

Please feel free to add to, refine, reorganize or edit the above linked page: it is a wiki!

We need more helpers and organizers, so if you see a need, please jump in, or talk to us about it! You can add your username to the meta page where appropriate, or create a new role!

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:44, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Reminder invitation to the December Bay Area WikiSalon

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi, everybody.

We are excited to remind you of the ninth in the Bay Area WikiSalon series that is coming up this Wednesday evening at 6 p.m.

• Details (RSVP suggested) here (RSVP helps us know how much food and drink to bring in)

What is a WikiSalon? A monthly safe and inclusive meatspace event conducted in organized chaos and we all clean up the mess afterwards. Livestream links for the presentation are available during presentation months, and will be forthcoming for those of you that cannot attend. December is a presentation month.

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Hope to see you there! Wayne (and Ben) - co-organizers
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:10, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Archived link for December Bay Area WikiSalon

Hi, y'all. In case you missed it and want to watch the archive reel; the topic was The Misplaced Pages Teahouse and the presenter was well respected Wikimedian Jim Heaphy ]

• Archive link (also includes intro, announcements, and a lightning talk)

• Details about Bay Area WikiSalon for December here

The full title of Jim's presentation was: Welcoming and Helping New Editors: A Month at the Misplaced Pages Teahouse: an overview of the Teahouse and an analysis of over 300 Teahouse conversations during the month of August, 2016

Jim gave a longer version of this presentation in October at WikiConference North America 2016 in San Diego, California.

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Cheers! Co-organizer Checkingfax - and co-organizer Ben Creasy | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here)

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PS: Mark your calendars now for Sunday, January 15 at 2 p.m. which will be Misplaced Pages's 16th Birthday party hosted by Bay Area WikiSalon! Details to follow soon. If you want to help plan it, get in touch with us ASAP!

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

You are invited to a birthday bash to Celebrate Misplaced Pages's 16th Birthday!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Misplaced Pages Day 16 SF is a fun Birthday bash and edit-a-thon on Sunday, January 15, 2017, hosted by Bay Area WikiSalon at the Wikimedia Foundation's Chip Deubner Lounge in the South of Market Street business district.

For details and to RSVP, please see: Misplaced Pages:Meetup/SF/Wikipedia Day 2017

The San Francisco gathering is one of a number of Misplaced Pages Day celebrations worldwide.

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See you soon! Ben Creasy, Checkingfax and Slaporte | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this notice)

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PS: We need volunteers to help make this a fun and worthwhile event. Please add your name to the Project page, and what you can offer. It is a wiki, so please make direct edits to the page.

Bay Area WikiSalon usually meets the last Wednesday evening of every month as an inclusive and safe place to collaborate, mingle, munch and learn about new projects and ideas.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:52, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Reminder invitation to the Misplaced Pages Day 16 birthday bash & edit-a-thon

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Misplaced Pages Day 16 SF is a fun Birthday bash and edit-a-thon on Sunday, January 15, 2017, hosted by Bay Area WikiSalon at the Wikimedia Foundation's Chip Deubner Lounge in the South of Market Street business district and everybody is invited!

Details and RSVP here

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See you Sunday! Ben Creasy, Checkingfax and Slaporte

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PS: We still need more volunteers to help make this a fun and worthwhile event. Please add what you can offer and your name to the Project page or Talk about it. It is a wiki, so please make direct edits to the Project page. The event is already growing due to volunteers that have stepped up so far.

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Bay Area WikiSalon meets one evening of every month as an inclusive and safe place to collaborate, mingle, munch or learn about new projects and ideas.

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Note: the previous invitation had a bum wikilink. Sorry! | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this notice) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:43, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Bay Area WikiSalon invitation for February 22

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks.

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Please note: You should RSVP here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in.

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For further details, see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, February 2017

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See you soon! Ben Creasy and Wayne | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Bay Area WikiSalon February reminder

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 6 p.m.

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For details and to RSVP: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, February 2017

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See you soon! Ben Creasy and Wayne (co-coordinators) | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:59, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Your invitation: Bay Area WikiSalon series at Noisebridge

Please join us in San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. This month we are meeting at Noisebridge makerspace/hackerspace in the Mission near 16th Street BART (temporary change of venue). The good news is this means that you can bring spontaneous guests if you forget to RSVP!

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks.

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If possible, please RSVP as it helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in. For further details and to RSVP, please see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, March 2017

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See you soon! Co-coordinators Ben Creasy and Wayne
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Reminder: Tonight is Bay Area WikiSalon at Noisebridge

Please join us in San Francisco!

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Details and to RSVP: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, March 2017 (optional, but helpful for food and special needs accommodations)

We are meeting at Noisebridge makerspace/hackerspace (temporary venue change) near 16th ST BART in SF.

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See you soon! Co-coordinators Ben Creasy and Wayne
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Wednesday night you are invited! Bay Area WikiSalon

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather for the Bay Area WikiSalon series to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks. We will have some announcements and lightning talks from the floor, and a breakout session. This is our one year anniversary, so there will be cake!

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Please RSVP here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in.

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See you soon! Ben Creasy and Wayne
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Everybody is invited to the May 31 Bay Area WikiSalon series!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. This month we are taking it on the road to Noisebridge makerspace/hackerspace!

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks. There will be periodic guided tours of Noisebridge. You can stay late, on your own! YeeHaw!

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For details and to RSVP, see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, May 2017

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See you soon! Ben Creasy and Wayne
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The Bay Area WikiSalon is an unSalon this month!

Please stay where you are for an unSalon!

We are taking July off! Please gather your thoughts for changes that you would like to see in the next 10 months and present them at our July 26 WikiSalon.

Ordinarily, the last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at the Bay Area WikiSalon series to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We normally allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend.

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Mark your calendars now for Wednesday, July 26 at 6 p.m.! The venue will be the Noisebridge hackerspace/makerspace on Mission Street in San Francisco.

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Sincerely, Ben Creasy and Wayne | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:45, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

The Black Woman is God Edit-a-Thon in San Francisco, July 22

You're invited to The Black Woman is God Edit-a-Thon at SOMArts in San Francisco on Saturday July 22, 1-4 pm. It'll be at 934 Brannan Street (between 8th & 9th). Everyone is welcome to join this editing event, held in conjunction with The Black Woman is God exhibition to raise the online visibility of Black women artists and challenge the gaps in art history that erase or minimize Black women’s contributions as artists, activists and social change-makers. (Message requested by Dreamyshade and delivered on 14:23, 9 July 2017 (UTC). You can subscribe/unsubscribe to San Francisco event talk page notices here.)

What is Talk Page Theatre? Come find out!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Come find out what "Talk Page Theatre" is all about! The last Wednesday evening of every other month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

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We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks. We will be at the NEW Wikimedia Foundation offices! w00t!!!

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Please note: You should RSVP here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in.

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For further details, see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, November 2017

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See you soon! Ben Creasy, Nikikana, and Wayne | ( Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice ) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:30, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

SFMOMA Edit-a-Thon in San Francisco, March 8

You're invited to an Art+Feminism Edit-a-Thon at SFMOMA in San Francisco on Thursday March 8, 5-9 pm. It'll be at 151 Third Street, 2nd floor, free to the public. Everyone is welcome to participate in an evening of communal updating of Misplaced Pages entries on subjects related to gender, art, and feminism. (This message is from User:Dreamyshade. You can subscribe/unsubscribe to San Francisco event talk page notices here.)
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Bay Area WikiSalon invitation!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Periodically, on the last Wednesday evening of the month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to munch, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We allow time for announcements, informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Bring a friend! Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. This months focus is images!

We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks (maybe pizza too!).

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For further details and to RSVP, please see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, May 2018 (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)

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See you soon! Ben Creasy, Nikikana, Stephen, and Wayne | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:22, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

UPDATE! Bay Area WikiSalon moved to June 6!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Our apologies, but we are rescheduling to Wednesday, June 6 at 6:00 p.m. due to a WMF host scheduling conflict.

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For further details and to RSVP, please see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, June 2018 (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)

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See you soon! Niki, Ben, Stephen, and Wayne | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:38, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

REMINDER: Bay Area WikiSalon is Wednesday, June 6

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

When: Wednesday, June 6 at 6:00 p.m.

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For details and to RSVP, please see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, June 2018 (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)

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See you soon! Niki, Lodewijk, Ben, Stephen, and Wayne | (Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice here) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Bay Area WikiSalon invitation for July 25!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Periodically, on the last Wednesday evening of the month, wiki enthusiasts gather at the Bay Area WikiSalon series to munch, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We allow time for announcements, informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Bring a friend! Kid/family friendly. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. This months focus is reliable sources!

We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks (maybe pizza too!).

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For further details and to RSVP, please see: Misplaced Pages:Bay Area WikiSalon, July 2018 (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)

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See you soon! Avik (User:Quantumavik), Lodewijk (User:Effeietsanders), Ben Creasy (User:Ben Creasy), Stephen (User:Slaporte), and Wayne (User:Checkingfax)
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Bay Area WikiSalon invitation for September 26!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Periodically, on the last Wednesday evening of the month, wiki enthusiasts gather at the Bay Area WikiSalon series to munch, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We allow time for announcements, informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Bring a friend! Kid/family friendly. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. This months' focus is Did you know ... ?

We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks (maybe pizza too!).

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Details and RSVP here (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)

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See you soon! Avik (User:Quantumavik), Lodewijk (User:Effeietsanders), Ben Creasy (User:Ben Creasy), Stephen (User:Slaporte), and Wayne (User:Checkingfax)
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Last call for RSVPs for Wednesday evening

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hey, folks.​ Reminder:​ Wednesday evening ​at 6 ​is the Bay Area WikiSalon series​.​

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Details and RSVP here (note: we are meeting at the new WMF HQ at 120 Kearny Street!)

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See you soon! Avik (User:Quantumavik), Lodewijk (User:Effeietsanders), Ben Creasy (User:Ben Creasy), Stephen (User:Slaporte), and Wayne (User:Checkingfax)
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You are cordially invited to Stanford University to celebrate Misplaced Pages's birthday

Join us in celebrating Misplaced Pages's 18th birthday at Stanford University!

I am delighted to invite you to the 2019 Misplaced Pages Day party at Stanford, which will be held on Tuesday, January 15, 2019, at 5:00-8:30pm.

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There will be pizza, cake, and refreshments; both newcomers and experienced Wikimedians are welcome! We will have a beginner track with tutorials, and an advanced track with presentations, lightning talks, and tips and tricks. Admission is free, and you do NOT have to be a Stanford University student to attend.

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Details and RSVP here • register here

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See you soon! All the best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c)
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You are cordially invited to the SPIE Photonics West edit-a-thon on 02.02.2020

Join us for the SPIE Photonics West edit-a-thon this Sunday, 02.02.2020!

I am delighted to invite you to the SPIE Photonics West 2020 edit-a-thon, at Park Central Hotel (Franciscan I, 3rd Level / 50 Third Street / San Francisco, California), on Sunday, February 2, 2020, at 5:00-7:00pm.

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Newcomers and experienced Wikimedians are welcome to participate alongside SPIE conference attendees. Admission is free. Training will be provided.

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Details and sign-in here

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See you soon! All the best, --Rosiestep (talk) 06:59, 31 January 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging

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Invitation to Local Wikimania Event in San Francisco this Friday

Hi!

Wikimania is happening and hopefully you're enjoying the sessions. While it's fairly last minute, you're warmly invited to participate in the local Wikimania-themed meetup in the Wikimedia Foundation office this Friday (tomorrow!). You will have to register in advance, but we would love to see more people from the WikiSalon community participate! For more information and registration, please check out meta:Wikimania 2022/San Francisco Meetup.

The event will involve hacking, teaching, learning, and celebrating and we'll have snacks. We will have the opportunity to watch live sessions at Wikimania together in the afternoon. The rest of the day we'll have opportunity to participate in the hackathon, and we may have some on-demand workshops/learning sessions.

In case we run out of space, it's first-come-first-serve so let us know soon! Hope to see you there.

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