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Revision as of 11:38, 13 November 2006 editAdam Carr (talk \| contribs)26,681 edits I will go deleting this material for as long as is necessary to deter this person. This has nothing to do with the issue of cannibalism, it has to do with the behaviour of this person.← Previous edit		Latest revision as of 13:41, 6 December 2024 edit undoMitch Ames (talk \| contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers187,838 edits Undid revision 1261507036 by Mitch Ames (talk)Tag: Undo
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	I will go deleting this material for as long as is necessary to deter this person. This has nothing to do with the issue of cannibalism, it has to do with the behaviour of this person in continually spamming this page while making no effort to edit the article or do anything contructive. 11:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

			== Inclusion? ==

			Why indigenous australians refers to both aboriginal and torres strait islanders in general? I dont have any idea torres strait islander is such little population but significant australians. ] (]) 01:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

			:Please be on the lookout for a user such as the above with Indonesian IPs making disruptive edits to do with Torres Strait Islanders on Misplaced Pages. This question has been answered before for them, so I'm ignoring it. ] (]) 01:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

			== Removing c from black ==

			I hit Enter too quickly on so the summary is not complete.

			What I meant to say is that is still ], because:
			* Neither reference says that Deacon used the phrase "black cunt" (being shouted at her while growing up). We might all "know" what the ref means, but it is still SYN.
			* In , Deacon does not say that the phrase was shouted {{em\|at her}}, only "Growing up, I always heard the words ... {{em\|from white people}}" (which could have been shouted at other people), and "It's still common ... being shouted at us."
			] (]) 05:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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			I'm not sure that is a good idea to have the Aboriginal Flag only, because Indigenous Australians includes Torres Strait Islanders, who have a ]. {{tl\|Infobox ethnic group}} does not appear to support two flags. Should we have no flag instead of only one? Can we make a ] to put there (subject to copyright rules, because the ] is non-free). ] (]) 13:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

			Fair point. ] (]) 00:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

			== Oral tradition ==

			] and the literature section of this page is missing information on oral traditions. Some sources below, I'd be very happy to help out.
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			] (]) 16:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

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			:Why this has no connection with Indigenous North America, and it is all too common for those from the region to use terms that are historically depreciated and offensive. ]] 06:27, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

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Inclusion?

Why indigenous australians refers to both aboriginal and torres strait islanders in general? I dont have any idea torres strait islander is such little population but significant australians. 2404:8000:1027:D5FD:CCA9:4FA5:4C8D:A8A2 (talk) 01:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Please be on the lookout for a user such as the above with Indonesian IPs making disruptive edits to do with Torres Strait Islanders on Misplaced Pages. This question has been answered before for them, so I'm ignoring it. Poketama (talk) 01:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Removing c from black

I hit Enter too quickly on so the summary is not complete.

What I meant to say is that is still WP:SYN, because:

Neither reference says that Deacon used the phrase "black cunt" (being shouted at her while growing up). We might all "know" what the ref means, but it is still SYN.
In Munro 2020, Deacon does not say that the phrase was shouted at her, only "Growing up, I always heard the words ... from white people" (which could have been shouted at other people), and "It's still common ... being shouted at us."

Mitch Ames (talk) 05:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Flag

Re this edit ...

I'm not sure that is a good idea to have the Aboriginal Flag only, because Indigenous Australians includes Torres Strait Islanders, who have a different flag. {{Infobox ethnic group}} does not appear to support two flags. Should we have no flag instead of only one? Can we make a single image with both flags to put there (subject to copyright rules, because the Torres Strait Islander flag image is non-free). Mitch Ames (talk) 13:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Fair point. Research17 (talk) 00:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Oral tradition

Indigenous Australian literature and the literature section of this page is missing information on oral traditions. Some sources below, I'd be very happy to help out.

Kowal2701 (talk) 16:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

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Why this has no connection with Indigenous North America, and it is all too common for those from the region to use terms that are historically depreciated and offensive. Gnan garra 06:27, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

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