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			== Injector page edit 2 ==
	== Re: "level-headed and balanced assessment of the situation" ==
	No problem. This is a very delicate situation where groups have dug in trenches long before this specific issue came up. Emotions can run high, and with all the mounting ridiculousness on Twitter and FB, it's a relief to check the Talk page and find someone like you there. Please, keep it up. ] 19:07, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

			Some time ago now, you wrote:
	=== The above ===
	I have left the above on my talk page not as indicative of my level-headedness, of which I possess almost none, but because in the over five years I have been editing, no-one has ever suggested before that I might be the calm voice of reason. I look forward to it happening again in 2020 or so.

			< If I get the time I'll chase up my copy of OUP "How steam locomotives really work" and rewrite the unsplit page. >
	A cynic would observe that, on this occasion, some of the other editors involved may have been associated with the "ethics in internet misogyny" crowd, and that even I look good next to them. Particularly if that cynic was me getting back to my usual unreasonable self. :-) ] (]) 16:53, 29 September 2015

			Are you in a position to summarise here what the book has to say about how injectors work? Does it have the ring of truth?
	== ] Page Edit ==

			(I'd like to know whether the book is worth buying for how it treats this topic).
	Hi, I'm the person who made the change to the https://en.wikipedia.org/Injector page that you recently undid. Can you tell me what your issue is with my edit? Also, I have no idea how to communicate on wikipedia here so please feel free to tell me I'm doing something wrong - literally just made an account to respond to your undo. Honestly, there are a lot of problems with the Venturi/Bernoulli pages as well as the related pages that I'd like to help fix ] (]) 13:22, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
	:It's uncited, and there are cites to say it works as the page currently describes it. ] (]) 20:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
	::Uncited? It was a quote from an existing citation (#10), and I clearly cited the quote. So...how is that uncited?
	::The citations that, as you put it, "say it works as the page currently describes" don't actually do that. If you read citation #3, which I have, it matches my edit and not the existing text.
	::I can't say how accurate it aligns with #4 since that's not accessible online, but my guess is not very well since the existing explanation is factually incorrect. Nevertheless, using the existing citations on the page, I have 2 of them that agree with my change, zero that agree with the existing text, and 1 that we can't evaluate because it is inaccessible.
	::So...do you still believe the revert is an improvement? If it makes you happier I can replace the Operation section with an exact copy/paste from existing citation #3 (instead of the copy paste from citation #10 with you rejected). Does that work?] (]) 22:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
	:::I added cite #4, which does mention the Venturi effect, which is important; if the input steam remained above atmospheric pressure the water would never get into the combining cone at all. Much of the page is confused because it can't quite decide if it's about boiler injectors or other devices. ] (]) 22:30, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
	::::Can you directly quote cite #4 to me then?
	::::The article says "reducing its pressure to below atmospheric which enables it to entrain a fluid" implying (perhaps unintentionally?) that low-pressure is necessary to entrain the fluid. Low pressure might be required to get the fluid up into the combining cone, but per cite 3 and cite 10 it has nothing to do with the entrainment - they clearly state that's momentum exchange via friction/viscosity.
	::::Also, in your statement, "which does mention the Venturi effect, which is important; if the input steam remained above atmospheric pressure" - low pressure is only required in a lifting injector. It's not required in a non-lifting injector. Furthermore, what support do you have for your assertion that the low-pressure (in lifting injects) is a result of the Venturi effect rather than simple viscosity?] (]) 00:01, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

			TIA

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	== Battle of Talas ==

			:I am pretty-well starting afresh, but if you ever see this, I certainly would recommend the book on this subject, yes. ] (]) 13:37, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
	Hello. See the page https://en.wikipedia.org/Byzantine%E2%80%93Sasanian_War_of_602%E2%80%93628 There that parameter is using not just standart terms Victory or Inconclusive. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:See ]. Feel free to suggest fixing that on the talk page of that article, but don't commit the error elsewhere just because you found it committed somewhere. ] (]) 07:01, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

			== i want you to create my wiki pge ==
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			can you create my wiki oage? ] (]) 23:37, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
	You made mention of some discussion, but a discussion involves two or more people. A discussion never happened. Just because you feel something isn't notable doesn't make it so. There are lots of notable people, events, etc. without an article. I don't want to get into a revert war. So don't revert. <span style="background:red"><span style="color:white">Mr. C.C.</span><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></span> 05:59, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
	:It is you who failed to discuss it, so unless you do, I see no reason your inclusion of apparently non-notable entries should stand. If need be I'll launch an RFC which will, of course, agree with me that the article should be organised in common with the overwhelming majority of list articles. ] (]) 20:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

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	==False flag==
	I don't understand why you think the Rhine confederation flag Is a "fictional flag" <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:29, 7 December 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	*There is discussion on the talk page. ] (]) 02:32, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
	Actually pinkbeast and Drmies there is a reason I did all those edits. its because of the flags like the second Saudi state, Hungary, and confederation of the Rhine I didn't want the flags to be removed just like how Yemen's 1923 flag was removed. I hope you two understand.
	:I have no idea what you're alluding to with "how Yemen's 1923 flag was removed", but as Drmies says, ] explains very clearly how that flag is fictional. It might be better to discuss it there if you have any reason to suppose it's not. ] (]) 22:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
	I can't it says that" the discussion is closed please do not modify it" plus I am new in the editing stuff, that is probably why you think I am socking. even though I understand why you think that it is a fictional flag. but according to me that's not the case. Me saying that the Yemen flag from 1923-1927 was removed just search flags of Yemen and you will see
	:] does not say anything of the kind, so please explain yourself there (I think you may be seeing that text on an entirely different discussion on ]). It seems unlikely to me now you are a sock since the other person restoring the fictitious flag has never used a talk page at all, although it does also seem unlikely you are an expert on Napoleonic-era flags. If you want to refer me to something pertaining to the flag of Yemen, please provide a link. ] (]) 22:38, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
	:Having looked, if you mean , then the image was removed from Commons because there was no information about its source. Obviously when the image didn't exist anymore, there was no point in the page referring to it, but also this is an entirely different case to this one where I have removed the flag from Misplaced Pages pages because there is no reason to suppose it is authentic. ] (]) 22:47, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
	You might be right pinkbeast but besides the confederation of the Rhine. I have been concerned over the flag change on the second Saudi state and the early flags of Hungary and many more.
	:Then use the talk pages of those articles, not my talk page, to discuss why the changes are not appropriate. ] (]) 02:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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	Hi, I noticed you keep disputing the headteacher section that I'm trying to upload to the ]. All headteachers up to 1960 are in the book I originally referenced, the rest are archived in writing in the school itself. I don't see the problem. ] (]) 20:32, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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	:The book you referenced for headteachers up to the 1970s, you mean? I can only go by the cites actually provided, and the cites actually provided were a book published in 1960 for events in the 1970s (so I know you're willing to list a cite that doesn't actually support the material in the article) and some cites that didn't actually list the dates in question.
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	:To boot, the list of headteachers doesn't really seem to merit inclusion. None of them are notable in the Misplaced Pages sense. ] (]) 21:45, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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	Hi, I only changed the wording in the St Mary's School, Gerrards Cross article because , that whole section about Gwyneth Bebb is copied from Attain News. I've rewritten it, if you don't like it fix it but don't revert it back. Thank you. ] (]) 07:00, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
	:Right. Had I known it was a copyvio I would not have reverted it the first time. I presume you have checked the rest of the page. ] (]) 07:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
	:However, it would help if you had read my edit summary. Bebb v Law Society _did not_ open the legal profession to women. ] (]) 07:03, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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	:The 2017 image has been deleted as copyvio. It seems astonishingly that if you had a perfectly good reason for not using it you'd start by coming here and issuing bogus threats! ] (]) 23:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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	:::No, it was deleted because it was a copyright violation. ] (]) 01:47, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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	Could you please '''merge''' the 2 pages :
	https://en.wikipedia.org/Kilich_Khan
	and https://en.wikipedia.org/Nawab_Khwaja_Abid_Siddiqi

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	As both pages "refer" to the ''same person''.
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	:I've no special powers there. See ] to propose a merge. ] (]) 04:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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	:: Thanks, had to place a template and probably wait for someone to do the merge.] (]) 10:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC) thanks again!

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	lol not sure if u r a cat person :P

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	Hi Pinkbeast. Just FYI page 3 of the May 1, 1988 LA Times report listed in the article says that Frank Dux refused to reveal his age, though the journalist adds that he is 32. This would put his date of birth between 2 May 1955 and 1 May 1956. I don't know if it's appropriate lo list his date of birth at 1955-1956 though, and i figured close enough was better than no data, so I put in 1956. Happy to leave the year out entirely though.

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Injector page edit 2

Some time ago now, you wrote:

< If I get the time I'll chase up my copy of OUP "How steam locomotives really work" and rewrite the unsplit page. >

Are you in a position to summarise here what the book has to say about how injectors work? Does it have the ring of truth?

(I'd like to know whether the book is worth buying for how it treats this topic).

TIA

81.135.234.168 (talk) 12:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

I am pretty-well starting afresh, but if you ever see this, I certainly would recommend the book on this subject, yes. Pinkbeast (talk) 13:37, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

i want you to create my wiki pge

can you create my wiki oage? 49.36.213.97 (talk) 23:37, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

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I made a new Stark Naked 6 film. There is no known filmer, and Mamie has said on X (https://twitter.com/Mamievandoren/status/1632611277825781761), that she intends these films to be used freely. GreyChen (talk) 23:13, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

No, there she is saying there is no paywall. That is absolutely not the same as giving permission for them to be uploaded on Commons. Pinkbeast (talk) 23:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

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