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== Questionable opinion pieces about the US as a state sponsor of terror == | |||
== Medical treatment == | |||
This quote is very subjective and opinionated, probably written by people with a bias against the US. | |||
I think a state should give medical treatment to a terrorist in the same way that a doctor would treat a murderer. Doing so does not mean that the state sponsors terrorism. Therefore unless someone replies with a good reason I will remove the sentences on medical treatment. | |||
"The U.S. Government, which has repeatedly engaged in sponsorship of terrorism as a feature of its foreign policy," | |||
I believe it would be necessary to cite that the state did not properly detain and prosecute the person for terrorism after their recovery from treatment. | |||
] (]) 19:30, 23 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
If you actually read the sources, they say things like "the US supported the South African apartheid government". While supporting the apartheid government was morally questionable at best, its completely illogical to say that the government itself was a terrorist force. Just because a government is immoral doesn't mean its synonymous with terrorism. Calling it a feature of foreign policy is even more absurd. This is like calling the US a state sponsor of terror because it does trade with China which has subjugated the Tibetans and Uyghur Muslims. | |||
== Highly biased == | |||
You can certainly criticize US foreign policy mistakes in droves, but it's an entirely different statement to claim that US used terrorism as a feature. The author, Edward S. Herman, is incredibly biased and has an axe to grind. The source is trash basically. Supporting a government you don't like isn't terrorism. A country that supports Iran for example wouldn't itself be a state sponsor of terror even though Iran is. It's not like a communicable disease. | |||
https://www.jstor.org/stable/29766326 <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 06:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Just look at United States section and Turkey's. Nobody in living earth can understand why the US has little section compared that they support most terrorists on earth. Why don't include all comments other people's quotes when you wrote to United States section but, you include all peoples quotes as a fact to Turkey's section? Half of the Muslim countries on world constantly accuses the US to support terrorism. Yet there is no quote on them. --] (]) 11:06, 26 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:At some point we identified a scope problem. The definition of state sponsored terrorism needs to be clearly defined before we go through the specific sections. I have added some of this - some studies consider it as inclusion on the US state sponsored terrorism lists, but there are other definitions that describe terrorist organizations as "proxies" in post World-War II warfare. Turkey is not known for engaging in much proxy warfare throughout it's history except for recent accusations about ISIL - even so the length of the content is an issue. (The same is true for the section on Saudi Arabia). An obvious place to trim content is the weak and minor sources that are used, especially if they are self-published on personal websites that have no editorial oversight. I have removed some of these.] <sup>(])</sup> 13:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Citation issue in "India" section == | == Citation issue in "India" section == | ||
Section claims Sri Lanka has accused India of sponsoring terrorism but the linked citation shows exactly the opposite; an errant minister redacting his statement | Section claims Sri Lanka has accused India of sponsoring terrorism but the linked citation shows exactly the opposite; an errant minister redacting his statement | ||
==China is supporting northeast india terrorist group== | |||
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/chinese-agencies-helping-north-east-militants-in-myanmar-4468384/ | |||
==Right Wing Indian politicians and their role with state sponser terror== | |||
Many Indian riots was program by State to target and kill people from a community. We may include that also in India section. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Questionable opinion pieces about the US as a state sponsor of terror
This quote is very subjective and opinionated, probably written by people with a bias against the US.
"The U.S. Government, which has repeatedly engaged in sponsorship of terrorism as a feature of its foreign policy,"
If you actually read the sources, they say things like "the US supported the South African apartheid government". While supporting the apartheid government was morally questionable at best, its completely illogical to say that the government itself was a terrorist force. Just because a government is immoral doesn't mean its synonymous with terrorism. Calling it a feature of foreign policy is even more absurd. This is like calling the US a state sponsor of terror because it does trade with China which has subjugated the Tibetans and Uyghur Muslims.
You can certainly criticize US foreign policy mistakes in droves, but it's an entirely different statement to claim that US used terrorism as a feature. The author, Edward S. Herman, is incredibly biased and has an axe to grind. The source is trash basically. Supporting a government you don't like isn't terrorism. A country that supports Iran for example wouldn't itself be a state sponsor of terror even though Iran is. It's not like a communicable disease.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/29766326 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.59.115 (talk) 06:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Citation issue in "India" section
Section claims Sri Lanka has accused India of sponsoring terrorism but the linked citation shows exactly the opposite; an errant minister redacting his statement
China is supporting northeast india terrorist group
Right Wing Indian politicians and their role with state sponser terror
Many Indian riots was program by State to target and kill people from a community. We may include that also in India section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.48.108.42 (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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