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If you would like to edit that page, please discuss about it in the Talk page first. Otherwise, it will be considered vandalism. Your insults are also against WIKIPEDIA best practices and I will report you. If you would like to edit that page, please discuss about it in the Talk page first. Otherwise, it will be considered vandalism. Your insults are also against WIKIPEDIA best practices and I will report you.
] Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the ] if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits{{#if:{{{1|}}}|, such as those you made to ],}} are considered ]. If you continue in this manner you may be '''] from editing without further warning'''. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. <!-- Template:Blatantvandal (serious warning) -->


Best Wishes, ] 19:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC) Best Wishes, ] 19:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


User keeps making changes in the Brahma Kumaris page. Last warning. ] Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the ] if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits{{#if:{{{1|}}}|, such as those you made to ],}} are considered ]. If you continue in this manner you may be '''] from editing without further warning'''. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. <!-- Template:Blatantvandal (serious warning) -->

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Please do not change content without discussion. This is called vandalism. You were warned and blocked before. Please do not change content without discussion. This is called vandalism. You were warned and blocked before.


] 00:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC) Avyakt7
] This is your '''last warning'''. <br>The next time you ] a page, {{#if:{{{1|}}}|as you did to ],}} you will be ] from editing Misplaced Pages. <!-- Template:Test4 (Fourth level warning) --> ] 00:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC) Avyakt7

:No it is not called vandalism, actually. It may just be over enthusiasm or inexperience. Don't bit the newcomers, help them.

:] 02:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

== Personal attack by ] ==
:Maleabroad,

:OK, just to help you understand what is going on the Brahma Kumaris page.

:] is a Brahma Kumari from Tampa. BK Luis Riveros, a teacher and a recruiter for what he calls the "New Religious Movement" of the BKWSU. I personally do not agree is it is one. A "New Religious Movement" would make it another Kali Yugi cult. He is seeking to dominate the article by intimidating any other contributor away and recently he learnt the new trick of slapping Vandalism accusations on every one else to damage their reputation and have them blocked. Encourged by a group of BKs, he is attempting to re-writing the article along the lines of his chosen quotations from academic papers and exclude any self-published material from the BKWSU which is, of course, wholly acceptable. He refuses any other's input.

:If you want to contribute, it is probably best to enter into discussion about the article first and make conservative changes first. This is, of course, a waste of time because Luis does not want to listen and will ignore you. I tried to engage him in discussion via Arbitration and Mediation, notifying him of it, but he refused to engage. But, we have to try, if nothing else to expose what he is up to.

:I do not know where you are coming from as regards the BKWSU but best play by the rules of the Wiki. You could if you wish put in a complaint to the admins about Luis behavior because he is quite clearly attempting to use intimidation to dominate the article.

:Good luck. If I can help you, I will. ] 02:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

==Hi==
Just to notify you that a tendentious new user named ] has been POV-vandalizing ] and related articles. Just check his contribs {{Userlinks|Godblessindia}}] 22:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)



== Content dispute NOT vandalism ==

Please work with other editors on ]. Reverting dozens of edits as you have done might be considered vandalism, but what the other editors are doing (working on the article), does not. Please discuss your differences about what the content should be on the talk page, do not simply keep reverting to the version you like from several days ago. &mdash;] 18:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

:Would you please restore the work I have done adding diacritics and correcting spelling mistakes ? Every time you revert to an earlier version, you trash my work. I am really not happy with this ignorant, ill-mannered behaviour. If you can't cooperate, I shall refer this matter for arbitration.--] 23:36, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

== Branding other editors ==

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== Riveros11 and signing in when editing Discussion pages ==

Hey,

don't worry about that Riveros11 guy. Most folks can see what he is up to. My suggestion to you is to report him because he is deliberating trying to intimidate you from editing the BKWSU page as he is others by using the vandalism warnings. Others are doing so.

But please,

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This will automatically put in your name and the datestamp. Thanks. ] 03:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

==Thank You==
Maleabroad,
Thank you for your positive contributions to ] (AIVV), this is most helpful as I understand there is a wider interest in this religion. Any links to related articles would be helpful or cross references. Also, could you assist in keeping vandals from deleting the page as it is very hard to find others that are familiar with religions from this area or the terminology. So, you are a welcomed resource to this article. Thank you again.

==maga==
I did not say the Magi were descended from Rajputs. I said there was a Brahmin caste among the Rajputs called the Magacharya who are descended from the Iranian Magi. Exactly what you said. Also, the Rig Veda denounced the worship of idols or images as non-Aryan or mleccha. In the later Vedas and more prominently, during the time of the Indo-Greeks, image worship and idols played a more prominent role in Indian religious life, beginning with the Greco-Buddhist statues in ancient northwestern India (now western Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan). ] 20:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not responding sooner. I was busy. The Iranians, or their Indo-Iranian forbears at least, used to worship the Devas until for some apparent reason, they abandoned the Devas for the Asuras or Ahuras, switching the dichotomy. Is possible that tribes of the Aryans did this wholescale, signalling their transition into the Iranian branch. Or, the Iranians themselves, even after the split, still worshipped the Devas. However, by the time of the arrival of Zoroastrianism, the dichotomy was recorded to have been reversed and the Iranians from then on until the time of Islam, worshipped the Ahuras as opposed to the Devas. So the Iranians did worship the Devas in some form, but were compelled to switch the dichotomy and worship the Ahuras instead, either due to a disagreement with the Indians or due to theological pressures from Zoroaster. With regards to Indra and Indar, I'm not sure. I was under the impression that, since Indra, apart from little characteristics, has no apparent counterpart outside of the Indo-Aryan world, he was in some degree based on a historical Indo-Aryan leader who was deified for some sort of attempted genocide (ie: wiping out their ethnic enemies, either the Iranian Aryans or the indigenous Indians.). Hope that helps. ] 18:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== BKWSU and Hinduism ==

These people want to remove their activities as far from being classified to or connected with Hinduism as possible. The even claim that Raja Yoga is not Hindu.

I wrote a lengthy edit about the origins of the organization in the Sind, here and they tore it to pieces demanding citations and references from Western academics whilst refusing to look at accept those from the sub-continent - which were given. The thought that their founder Kirpalani was a Vallabacharya was just too much for them I think! Likewise they want to hide away the Brahmin principles which are quite ordinary in India.

I am very glad to be able to prove the actions of this American teacher who has been intimidating not just you and I but others also with his vandalism trick. ] 10:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

:Maleabroad,
:I have been away while doing some research to get the items removed by Riveros11 and the BK IT Team back into the article. I am in agreement with you on the value (historical/sociological/religious) of the origins of the NRM/Sect (Brahma Kumaris). Yes, I am in agreement that Riveros11 doesn't listen, nor does he discuss, nor enters into discussion in a neutral way. So, when I do bring forth the citations it would be nice if you could offer the Hindu meanings as I am not as well versed as you in that area. Also, please don't let Riveros11/Avyakt7 and all the many IP's that he uses incite you as your knowledge base is too valuable to other articles beyond this one to risk being banned. He seems to home in on editors that may pose a challenge and has had his focus on other editors. Also, please note that other editors like myself, are just trying our best to work on articles of interest to us, have good intension and are very dedicated.
:You are correct in that the Brahma Kumaris tell folks they can be of any religion to partake of the "Knowledge", but I see now that Riveros11 is claiming that it is now mainly a Western emerging religion, with a greater Western influence? Yes, it is odd considering that 90% of the BKs are of Indian origin....I wonder how they would take such news! Have you heard the term ERASURE? I first heard about it in the late 90's in a sociology conference (annual) in Houston Texas from a sociologist from Brown University. In essence his paper was about the sociological ERASURE (erasing people's history) within the black community to denote their history, their contributions and their identity (to lose this can be devastating). So, your efforts are not lost as I see the value of the origins, the value in the people from whom we take, the historical meaning within and yet others try to erase. I now see what he was speaking about in the world context of sociological study.
:So, thanks for hanging in there and look to future discussions with a neutral party such as yourself. PEACE] 01:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

::Maleabroad,

::I don't know entirely where you are coming you from, with regards the BKWSU issue, but you cant just blast a Wiki article like that. It will only work against your position. However angry and upset you are, however wrong you might consider the statements, you will only defeat yourself by acting in such a manner. Be cool headed.

::Wiki policy is a higher authority than truth and in this, and all other cases of the Misplaced Pages. Riveros11 will "win" purely because that references is an academic reference not you or his "point of view". If you want to make a statement. Unfortunately you have to find a citable reference, written by an expert, that supports you position. You could be of great help IF you can find reputable Hindu/India sources to support your references.

::This to me was where the article places the BKWSU in its proper Indian context and I'd appreciate your comments on it. ] 02:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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::Did you ever email him?--] 10:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

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Maleabroad, when I said "found" I said I found it in my search, not actually start the article, lol! Also, it was initially full of POV, probably added later on. It made statements suggesting Hinduism as being followed in Iran, when it was never followed there to begin with. Hinduism and Zoroastrianism both stem from a comon faith. Also, I'm not Zoroastrian, but I am a Pakistani of Pashtun background and indeed of ultimate Iranian origin. Some of my ancestors would definitely been followers of Zoroastrianism Afghan Historian 21:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

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Do not

Adding POV ramblings to articles is one thing, but to try to emphasise them by making the passage bold as per this edit is precariously close to vandalism.—Nat Krause 17:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks

For constructive edits to Hinduism related articles.Bakaman Bakatalk 04:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


Brahma Kumaris page

If you would like to edit that page, please discuss about it in the Talk page first. Otherwise, it will be considered vandalism. Your insults are also against WIKIPEDIA best practices and I will report you.

Best Wishes, avyakt7 19:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Cowards remark

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Mediterranean race

What on earth are you talking about? It's irrelevant because it is not about the "Mediterranean race", which is the subject of the article. It is also full of inaccuracies. One section was a general statement about the concept of "Caucasoids" and the other was about the sons of Noah! Also "Maleabroad", please don't hide behind anonymity. Paul B 18:12, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


Anti-Brahmanism

Dear User, your comments are valuable. /* Ambedkar and Brahmins */ Moved to the more relevant article Anti-Brahmanism article. You can contribute more.Ambedkaritebuddhist 13:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Maleabroad vandalizing Brahma Kumaris page again- last warning

Please do not change content without discussion. This is called vandalism. You were warned and blocked before.

72.91.4.91 00:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC) Avyakt7

No it is not called vandalism, actually. It may just be over enthusiasm or inexperience. Don't bit the newcomers, help them.
195.82.106.244 02:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Personal attack by Riveros11

Maleabroad,
OK, just to help you understand what is going on the Brahma Kumaris page.
Riveros is a Brahma Kumari from Tampa. BK Luis Riveros, a teacher and a recruiter for what he calls the "New Religious Movement" of the BKWSU. I personally do not agree is it is one. A "New Religious Movement" would make it another Kali Yugi cult. He is seeking to dominate the article by intimidating any other contributor away and recently he learnt the new trick of slapping Vandalism accusations on every one else to damage their reputation and have them blocked. Encourged by a group of BKs, he is attempting to re-writing the article along the lines of his chosen quotations from academic papers and exclude any self-published material from the BKWSU which is, of course, wholly acceptable. He refuses any other's input.
If you want to contribute, it is probably best to enter into discussion about the article first and make conservative changes first. This is, of course, a waste of time because Luis does not want to listen and will ignore you. I tried to engage him in discussion via Arbitration and Mediation, notifying him of it, but he refused to engage. But, we have to try, if nothing else to expose what he is up to.
I do not know where you are coming from as regards the BKWSU but best play by the rules of the Wiki. You could if you wish put in a complaint to the admins about Luis behavior because he is quite clearly attempting to use intimidation to dominate the article.
Good luck. If I can help you, I will. 195.82.106.244 02:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Just to notify you that a tendentious new user named User:Godblessindia has been POV-vandalizing Dalit and related articles. Just check his contribs Godblessindia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)Hkelkar 22:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


Content dispute NOT vandalism

Please work with other editors on Buddha as an Avatar of Vishnu. Reverting dozens of edits as you have done might be considered vandalism, but what the other editors are doing (working on the article), does not. Please discuss your differences about what the content should be on the talk page, do not simply keep reverting to the version you like from several days ago. —Hanuman Das 18:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Would you please restore the work I have done adding diacritics and correcting spelling mistakes ? Every time you revert to an earlier version, you trash my work. I am really not happy with this ignorant, ill-mannered behaviour. If you can't cooperate, I shall refer this matter for arbitration.--Stephen Hodge 23:36, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Branding other editors

Please stop branding all editors who disagree with you as "neo-Buddhists". That's a violation of the assume good faith policy. Also, please stop refering to their good faith edits as "vandalism" - they aren't. If you have a content dispute about an article, please apply the official dispute resolution processess. Thanks! —Hanuman Das 21:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Riveros11 and signing in when editing Discussion pages

Hey,

don't worry about that Riveros11 guy. Most folks can see what he is up to. My suggestion to you is to report him because he is deliberating trying to intimidate you from editing the BKWSU page as he is others by using the vandalism warnings. Others are doing so.

But please,

When editing on User Talk or Article Talk pages, please sign your name using four tildes ~~~~ when making your posts.

This will automatically put in your name and the datestamp. Thanks. 195.82.106.244 03:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank You

Maleabroad, Thank you for your positive contributions to Adhyatmik Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya (AIVV), this is most helpful as I understand there is a wider interest in this religion. Any links to related articles would be helpful or cross references. Also, could you assist in keeping vandals from deleting the page as it is very hard to find others that are familiar with religions from this area or the terminology. So, you are a welcomed resource to this article. Thank you again.

maga

I did not say the Magi were descended from Rajputs. I said there was a Brahmin caste among the Rajputs called the Magacharya who are descended from the Iranian Magi. Exactly what you said. Also, the Rig Veda denounced the worship of idols or images as non-Aryan or mleccha. In the later Vedas and more prominently, during the time of the Indo-Greeks, image worship and idols played a more prominent role in Indian religious life, beginning with the Greco-Buddhist statues in ancient northwestern India (now western Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan). Afghan Historian 20:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not responding sooner. I was busy. The Iranians, or their Indo-Iranian forbears at least, used to worship the Devas until for some apparent reason, they abandoned the Devas for the Asuras or Ahuras, switching the dichotomy. Is possible that tribes of the Aryans did this wholescale, signalling their transition into the Iranian branch. Or, the Iranians themselves, even after the split, still worshipped the Devas. However, by the time of the arrival of Zoroastrianism, the dichotomy was recorded to have been reversed and the Iranians from then on until the time of Islam, worshipped the Ahuras as opposed to the Devas. So the Iranians did worship the Devas in some form, but were compelled to switch the dichotomy and worship the Ahuras instead, either due to a disagreement with the Indians or due to theological pressures from Zoroaster. With regards to Indra and Indar, I'm not sure. I was under the impression that, since Indra, apart from little characteristics, has no apparent counterpart outside of the Indo-Aryan world, he was in some degree based on a historical Indo-Aryan leader who was deified for some sort of attempted genocide (ie: wiping out their ethnic enemies, either the Iranian Aryans or the indigenous Indians.). Hope that helps. Afghan Historian 18:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

BKWSU and Hinduism

These people want to remove their activities as far from being classified to or connected with Hinduism as possible. The even claim that Raja Yoga is not Hindu.

I wrote a lengthy edit about the origins of the organization in the Sind, here and they tore it to pieces demanding citations and references from Western academics whilst refusing to look at accept those from the sub-continent - which were given. The thought that their founder Kirpalani was a Vallabacharya was just too much for them I think! Likewise they want to hide away the Brahmin principles which are quite ordinary in India.

I am very glad to be able to prove the actions of this American teacher who has been intimidating not just you and I but others also with his vandalism trick. 195.82.106.244 10:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Maleabroad,
I have been away while doing some research to get the items removed by Riveros11 and the BK IT Team back into the article. I am in agreement with you on the value (historical/sociological/religious) of the origins of the NRM/Sect (Brahma Kumaris). Yes, I am in agreement that Riveros11 doesn't listen, nor does he discuss, nor enters into discussion in a neutral way. So, when I do bring forth the citations it would be nice if you could offer the Hindu meanings as I am not as well versed as you in that area. Also, please don't let Riveros11/Avyakt7 and all the many IP's that he uses incite you as your knowledge base is too valuable to other articles beyond this one to risk being banned. He seems to home in on editors that may pose a challenge and has had his focus on other editors. Also, please note that other editors like myself, are just trying our best to work on articles of interest to us, have good intension and are very dedicated.
You are correct in that the Brahma Kumaris tell folks they can be of any religion to partake of the "Knowledge", but I see now that Riveros11 is claiming that it is now mainly a Western emerging religion, with a greater Western influence? Yes, it is odd considering that 90% of the BKs are of Indian origin....I wonder how they would take such news! Have you heard the term ERASURE? I first heard about it in the late 90's in a sociology conference (annual) in Houston Texas from a sociologist from Brown University. In essence his paper was about the sociological ERASURE (erasing people's history) within the black community to denote their history, their contributions and their identity (to lose this can be devastating). So, your efforts are not lost as I see the value of the origins, the value in the people from whom we take, the historical meaning within and yet others try to erase. I now see what he was speaking about in the world context of sociological study.
So, thanks for hanging in there and look to future discussions with a neutral party such as yourself. PEACETalkAbout 01:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Maleabroad,
I don't know entirely where you are coming you from, with regards the BKWSU issue, but you cant just blast a Wiki article like that. It will only work against your position. However angry and upset you are, however wrong you might consider the statements, you will only defeat yourself by acting in such a manner. Be cool headed.
Wiki policy is a higher authority than truth and in this, and all other cases of the Misplaced Pages. Riveros11 will "win" purely because that references is an academic reference not you or his "point of view". If you want to make a statement. Unfortunately you have to find a citable reference, written by an expert, that supports you position. You could be of great help IF you can find reputable Hindu/India sources to support your references.
This to me was where the article places the BKWSU in its proper Indian context and I'd appreciate your comments on it. 195.82.106.244 02:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Email

Namaskaar. Could you please email me at desigeek111_AT_yahoo.com ? Thank you. Hkelkar 21:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Did you ever email him?--D-Boy 10:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

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Brahman in Earliest Buddhism

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Sati (practice)

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You must understand that lock evasion will only lengthen your block, for now, I will only bring it to 48h. Newer sockpuppetry will bring to longer blocks.--Aldux 18:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Sigh* I see you haven't understood, now the block is 96 hours. Also keep in mind that for WP:BLOCK you're edits made as a sock are not legitimate and as such shall be reverted on sight.--Aldux 01:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
(Double *sigh*) Maleabroad, let me really clear this time. If you insist in not observing the block, you risk receiving an indefinite ban from wikipedia. Please understand, with your behaviour you are putting yourself in an unpleasant situation.--Aldux 19:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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(Copied from elsewhere)

copying this comment by User:Afghan Historian from a contribution mistakenly put in article space, at Maleabroad (now deleted). Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Maleabroad, when I said "found" I said I found it in my search, not actually start the article, lol! Also, it was initially full of POV, probably added later on. It made statements suggesting Hinduism as being followed in Iran, when it was never followed there to begin with. Hinduism and Zoroastrianism both stem from a comon faith. Also, I'm not Zoroastrian, but I am a Pakistani of Pashtun background and indeed of ultimate Iranian origin. Some of my ancestors would definitely been followers of Zoroastrianism Afghan Historian 21:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

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please try to be constructive, avoid edit-warring, and discuss on talkpages. Otherwise you risk that your contributions keep being reverted. Oh, and it's om MANI padme hum, not MAHI, you may want to check your sources on that too. dab (𒁳) 08:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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May I please know what is the current to and fro reverts all about?Kanchanamala

Does this user know he has a talk page?

I have come to the conclusion that this user may not be aware of his talk page. In which case we are all just talking to ourselves! Oh, dear. Perhaps some one can clue him in via a minor edit on an article. PEACETalkAbout 04:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


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