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Section sizes Section size for False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (86 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 14,198 14,198 Veracity and politics 5,547 10,063 Use of repetition 4,516 4,516 Business career 56 29,811 Real estate 3,474 3,474 Other investments and debt 7,200 7,200 Philanthropy 3,118 3,118 Sports 8,628 8,628 Other 4,190 4,190 Perceptions 3,145 3,145 In The Art of the Deal 13,207 13,207 September 11 attacks 6,374 6,374 2016 presidential campaign 18,497 21,237 Border wall with Mexico 2,740 2,740 Presidency 58 236,999 Fact-checking Trump 22,011 22,011 Credibility polling 2,397 2,397 Commentary and analysis 14,716 17,812 Purpose and effect 3,096 3,096 Specific topics 88 194,721 Inaugural crowd 7,246 7,246 2016 presidential election 7,674 7,674 Denial of Russian hacking and election interference 4,300 4,300 Denial of collusion with Russia 4,295 4,295 Dismissal of FBI director 4,435 4,435 Personal lawyer 4,874 4,874 Spygate conspiracy theory 5,415 5,415 2018 California wildfires 1,384 1,384 Special counsel investigation 5,142 5,142 Economy 15,966 15,966 Family separation policy 2,693 2,693 E. Jean Carroll sexual assault accusation 2,529 2,529 Article II and unlimited executive power 1,232 1,232 Hurricane Dorian 23,076 23,076 Meeting with Iran 1,295 1,295 U.S military pullout from Kurdistan 1,514 1,514 Obamagate conspiracy theory 13,552 13,552 Joe Scarborough murder conspiracy theory 7,748 7,748 Advances for black Americans 1,502 1,502 Republican Party approval rating tweets 2,478 2,478 Ilhan Omar 1,081 1,081 COVID-19 pandemic 41,982 41,982 The military and veterans 4,778 4,778 Voting by mail 2,024 2,024 2020 presidential election 12,388 12,388 January 6 attack 14,030 14,030 Inter-presidency 65 116,396 2021 California gubernatorial recall election 1,272 1,272 COVID-19 healthcare discrimination against white people 1,031 1,031 Spygate conspiracy theory 1,545 1,545 Drop boxes in the 2020 presidential election in Wisconsin 1,115 1,115 Federal prosecution (government documents case) 4,731 4,731 Federal prosecution (2020 election case) 497 497 Claim of intervening in 2018 Florida vote count 1,604 1,604 2022 announcement speech 4,938 4,938 2023 CNN town hall 1,637 1,637 2024 presidential campaign 8,776 8,776 False and misleading statements by topic 48 49,693 2024 presidential election 1,040 1,040 Immigration and crime 9,073 9,073 Global warming and climate change 5,740 5,740 Foreign policy 3,056 3,056 Healthcare 944 944 Abortion 654 3,292 Roe v. Wade 2,638 2,638 LGBTQ claims 665 665 Indictments 1,743 1,743 Music Modernization Act 1,089 1,089 Real vs. AI-generated images 20,808 20,808 Hurricane Helene 2,195 2,195 Events 13 39,492 Biden vs. Trump presidential debate 2,742 2,742 Speech at the Republican Convention 2,042 2,042 CPAC Speech 518 518 NABJ interview 4,863 4,863 Mar-a-Lago news conference 7,609 7,609 Elon Musk interview 6,106 6,106 Howell, Michigan speech 1,006 1,006 Harris vs. Trump presidential debate 14,593 14,593 Sanewashing of Donald Trump 24,979 24,979 Public opinion 5,256 5,256 See also 248 248 References 29 29 Further reading 2,583 2,583 External links 19 720 Fact-checker archives 701 701 Total 482,100 482,100

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Too long

At the risk of stating the obvious, it's probably about time to consider how to break this article up. The subject matter is simply too broad and there is too much material that should be included, but for practical reasons we can't jam it all in. This page reminds me of the classic cartoon gag when you open the closet door and it explodes with millions of things flying out. Suggestions? -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Finding things Donald says that are false or misleading, is, in the words of Tom Cruise, a target-rich environment. Dividing the article into sub-articles would lessen its impact. It should be long. We could do some relatively minor copy editing for conciseness of language, though that is labor intensive and unlikely to offset the influx of new material in an election season. I'm OK with leaving it substantially as-is, with some of the mentioned copy editing. —RCraig09 (talk) 01:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

I have to disagree for practical reasons. Articles should not be so long that they are difficult to navigate or load for those using a device with limited bandwidth or a slower connection. And we have reached that point. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Attempt at spin-off:s per topic or time-period, perhaps? Pre-presidency/presidency and onward, something like that? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Btw, article is currently at 16240 words readable prose, WP:TOOBIG indicates something should be done. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:19, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

I think that is a pretty good idea. Three sub articles which can be linked from here would work. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Agree. The article intro is about the presidency. Thus we focus on those 4 years, and put aside the non-political and strictly businesses topics. We retitle the article as "Disputed statements made by President Donald Trump". (That opens the way for follow-up should he win the 2024 election.) So what article titles pertaining to the non-presidential periods of his life? E.g., suggestions, that comport with (this) "Disputed statements by President ..." article? Ugh! Suggestions are needed. – S. Rich (talk) 02:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

I suggest splitting in three: in general, then during his presidency, then post-presidency. The "in general" article could have the main things while the sub-articles could have more things. LilianaUwU 22:42, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Normally this proposal would make sense under WP:TOOBIG but this is an exceptional case. I am not keen in splitting into small meh articles, because it waters down the voluminous scale of Trump's Firehose of Lies. When viewers are linked to this Holy Mother of God page, it makes a huge impact in its current size. Chrisdevelop (talk) 04:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Proofless claim of Kamala never working at McDonald's

For the past couple weeks now Donald Trump has been claiming without evidence that Kamala Harris never worked at McDonald's. Today he "worked" a shift at McDonald's and posted about it again on TruthSocial, and now there's a lot of news articles being written about it, like these NYT, WHY, ABC7, AP, USA, etc. I don't know why he's going to such great lengths to propagate this but I think it should be documented on the page considering how many times its come up and how blatantly false it is. ☞ Rim 19:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

What is blatantly false? She can't verify she worked there, but there are photos of Trump at McDonald's for a photo shoot. Dhensley2012 (talk) 12:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I imagine if you called up Little Ceasers and asked them if I worked at one of their stores in 1990, they probably wouldn't have that record either. And even though I did, I certainly couldn't prove it now. There's no reason to retain basic records for that long, both individuals and companies routinely shred documents when they are outdated. A large company like McDonalds doubtless have written procedures on exactly when to do so.

However, saying She can't verify she worked there implies she has tried and failed to do so, which I've not personally seen in any of the reporting, probably because it doesn't seem important to rise to the bait while Trump is doing a photo-op working a fryer for a few minutes in a McDonald's that temporarily closed for this event.

Politicians tend to exaggerate their past or where they came from when it suits their purposes, there's ample evidence of that, but I suspect the reason Harris hasn't "proved" she worked at McDonalds is that it isn't seen as an important point by her campaign. Just Step Sideways 18:08, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Of course, Donald Trump is a pathological liar, and lies like most people breathe. The Washington Post published this article, titled, "No, McDonald's didn't confirm Trump's baseless claim about Kamala Harris" that says:

The restaurant chain — obviously not unhappy at the attention — sent a message to its employees that was obtained by The Washington Post. It indicates that no records of Harris's employment exist, but makes clear that this is not an aberration and not a reason to think that she didn't.

"Though we are not a political brand", the message reads, "we’ve been proud to hear former President Trump's love for McDonald's and Vice President Harris's fond memories working under the Arches. While we and our franchisees don't have records for all positions dating back to the early '80s, what makes '1 in 8' so powerful is the shared experience so many Americans have had."

The reference to "1 in 8" is to a corporate marketing program highlighting that (it claims) about 1 in 8 Americans have at some point worked for the chain. As McDonald's clearly accepts that Harris did.

The article also says, "The restaurant was closed, and the cars that went through the drive-through were supporters who had been screened by the Secret Service." Naturally. Carlstak (talk) 21:34, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Even though Trump's claims are unsubstantiated, we can't really place this information in this article because records of her working at McDonald's have probably been destroyed because it was a long time ago. Maybe it'd be better to place the information at Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign, since then it wouldn't imply whether or not Trump lied and there could also be more details about Trump's McDonald's visit, since that also doesn't really fit into the topic of misinformation and is more of a campaign strategy. That Tired Tarantula 22:03, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

That seems reasonable, Trump is clearly trying to turn it into a last-minute campaign issue, for reasons that are not entirely clear. It's not as if he could even try to pass himself of as ever having been a working class person himself. I'm surprised the Secret Service let him handle a deep fryer. You can really get hurt if you don't know what you're doing. Just Step Sideways 00:00, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Suggested "lies" turn to be true

I've never edited wiki before. I'm aiming to be honest, so I want to edit the Spying comment. As it's been reported through Washington Post, CNN, and others that the Clinton campaign did in fact spy on the Trump campaign. I know this will go no where, not I gotta ask, will this edit get approved? Dhensley2012 (talk) 12:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

The standard for inclusion in is verifiability via coverage in reliable sources. You say it has been reported through several of these, if that's the case it would be helpful if you were to provide links to that coverage. Just Step Sideways 17:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I can find no such reporting by Washington Post and CNN. O3000, Ret. (talk) 21:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

False or misleading statements or Alleged false or misleading statements?

I checked some of the Washington Post explanations of the "false or misleading claims" (at https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/) for topics I'm knowledgeable about. Some of the explanations are not in contradiction with Trump's statement; for some others, the explanation provides no proof that Trump's statement is "false or misleading"; or the Washington Post provides just a personal opinion, often because no consensus study exists on the topic; for a few others, the Washington Post provides sources that are very questionable; in some cases, Trump's statement is just somewhat oversimplified or exaggerated, but not wrong or misleading, which may be acceptable for a statement designed for a speech to a wide audience. Since clearly some of Trump's statements picked by the Washington Post are not "false or misleading statements", shouldn't the article be called "Alleged" false or misleading statements? Jacques de Selliers (talk) 22:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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Change the title of the section "Sanewashing of Donald Trump" such that the word "sanwashing" includes quotation marks around it. It should look like this: "Sanewashing" of Donald Trump PepsiStripMine (talk) 22:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I want to get input from other editors first: is there a precedent regarding neologisms in section headings? Bowler the Carmine | talk 17:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

I favor not using quotation marks. WP:NEO considers when neologisms can actually form the basis for entire Misplaced Pages articles... such as Sanewashing. From realiable sources such as AP and Editor and Publisher and Columbia Journalism Review, it is clear that sanewashing is a widely used term and has quickly become part of our language. Arguably, it's no longer a neologism. —RCraig09 (talk) 17:43, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Concur with NOT using quotation marks. PianoDan (talk) 19:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Marking this as answered as editors have weighed in. Also note MOS:SCAREQUOTES. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:40, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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