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==Houston Bush==

Changed the shorthand name "Houston-Intercontinental" to "Houston-Bush" in the listing of destinations, because that Houston airport's official name was changed several years ago to George Bush Intercontinental Airport" and the shorter "Houston-Bush" is the most common shorthand name used now.

== Use of "JFK" in History section ==

Since the History section is mostly about the airport before 1963, it seems confusing that the "JFK" abbreviation is used throughout to refer to the airport. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;''']'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">]</span></span> 15:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

:Three years, five months later, I happen upon your comment here (actually, I was looking for something like it), and as appears to occur frequently on this talk page, I see your very worthy observation has been ignored. I'm here to add that I think you raised an issue that has a direct bearing on the quality of this article. You raised it well over three years ago, yet no one has seemed to care. '''Repeated, routine references to this airport by the name "JFK", in describing events that occurred prior to the airport's having borne that name, represent anachronistic, unnecessarily confusing, and hence substandard writing. They need to be corrected with time-appropriate expressions for the airport.'''--] (]) 05:07, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

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== Qantas to Sydney ==


== Aeroflot suspension ==
The continued listing of Brisbane as the Qantas destination in the destinations table is very unhelpful. Nowhere does Qantas, JFK or Brisbane Airport mention this link. The flight number of QF11/12 is to suggest it is a continuation from Sydney, which is supported by Qantas, JFK and Sydney Airport information. The page really should either list Sydney or omit the information altogether and simply have a note of the fact the flight number suggests it is a flight to Sydney but the plane usually returns to Brisbane. It is also important to note that at least once a week the plane actually does come from Sydney. ] (]) 06:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)Lala295


Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return
Per WP destinations criteria, destinations should only be included if BOTH the aircraft and flight number are the same. Even though QF operate the B74E from LAX-SYD on Tuesdays, it is different than the one operating JFK-LAX, per ]. While I agree something needs to be done about this soon, for the time being I have kept Brisbane in the table as psychologically speaking, same aircraft/different flight number is more seamless than same flight no. and different aircraft. Qantas does sometimes depart the LAX-SYD flight on time even if the JFK-LAX flight is delayed and arrives afterwards. --] (]) 14:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
] (]) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)


Qantas flies from JFK to SYD now, instead of JFK - BNE. On the Qantas website, the flight from JFK - SYD (QF12) is displayed as one flight, with a stop, but still the same flight, while JFK - BNE (QF12, QF 16) is displayed as two flights, still with one stop. -- ] (]) 20:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC) In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (] (]) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))
:I think you will find that QF12 mysteriously changes aircraft type in Los Angeles. ] (]) 01:00, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
::From a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner to and Airbus A380. ] (]) 04:36, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


:Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK ] (]) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
== Timetables ==


::Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (] (]) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))
I've reverted the addition of the timetables again, mainly as the references given are dynamic links, meaning they keep changing and will likely quickly go out of date with the content. If you can find static content that actually confirms the destinations (rather than ever-changing timetables), then I'll be more inclined to allow these to be added. ] (]) 13:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
* The airline booking site references do not accurately verify direct destinations from the airport. They operate as a search engine to a bunch of destinations including those accessed indirectly and do not single out direct destinations. I see @Mealer2015 has also tried the same on other airport articles. ] (]) 20:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)


Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on ]. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. ] (]) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
== Removed in popular culture ==


:I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. ] (]) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
I just removed the pop culture section


== Major robberies section ==
{{tq|The New York City John F. Kennedy International Airport appears in the 2007 ] film '']'' and also appeared in the 2013 ] film '']''.}}


It's unsourced so violates ], and also, these are both animations where JFK was a minor setting, not the main topic or setting of the work. ] (]) 00:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC) Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. ] (]) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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Aeroflot suspension

Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return DisneyAviationRollerCoasterEnthusiast (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (VenFlyer98 (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))

Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK 108.50.206.142 (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (VenFlyer98 (talk) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))

Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on WP:CRYSTALBALL. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. Coastie43 (talk) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. oknazevad (talk) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Major robberies section

Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. 173.59.118.212 (talk) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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