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*** You did an excellent job, thanks. --]|] 16:35, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC) | *** You did an excellent job, thanks. --]|] 16:35, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC) | ||
****Thanks. I have removed the cleanup tag. --]] 17:10, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC) | ****Thanks. I have removed the cleanup tag. --]] 17:10, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep''' and cleanup. Yes, it's a mess but it's marginally better than nothing. --]] 14:02, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' and cleanup. Yes, it's a mess but it's marginally better than nothing. --]] 14:02, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC) | ||
*Obvious '''keep'''. Why the time-wasting nomination in the first place? ] 14:52, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC) | *Obvious '''keep'''. Why the time-wasting nomination in the first place? ] 14:52, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC) | ||
*Cleanup needed, but valid subject. '''Keep'''. ] 14:59, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC) | *Cleanup needed, but valid subject. '''Keep'''. ] 14:59, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC) | ||
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*'''Keep''', the article should never have been nominated for deletion. -- ] 00:17, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC) | *'''Keep''', the article should never have been nominated for deletion. -- ] 00:17, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep'''. I agree with Crevaner, it is indeed "clearly a keeper". -- ] 00:21, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC) | *'''Keep'''. I agree with Crevaner, it is indeed "clearly a keeper". -- ] 00:21, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC) | ||
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==Syntax errors== | |||
The writing here is inconsistent. It starts off saying that the Three Tenors are a series of concerts, then the second paragraph mentions the Three Tenors ''giving'' a concert. So which is it? Are they a concert or are the three tenors who give concerts? I'd say the latter, but I'd like to hear what others say. Also, should ] be mentioned? I know he's been the conductor at some of the most popular concerts, but I'm not sure if his association with them is more than incidental. Can anyone comment? -] 07:49, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC) | |||
:That inconsistency was probably a side-effect of my attempts to wrestle the pre-existing article into shape. I should have thrown it out and started afresh, with "The Three Tenors" being the singers, of course. ] in fixing it. --]] 09:07, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC) == | |||
Seinfeld episode that mentions the other two several times, yet refers to Carreras only as "the other guy". | |||
Needs expert commentary about the range and other technical abilities of each singer during the concert series and when in his prime. | |||
==Vocalists vs Singers== | |||
Why in the intro are Domingo and Carreras refered as vocalists and Pavarotti as singer? Could someone give a good explanation? Cheers --] (]) 22:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
: Because the bulk of the tenor corpus is in Italian, not Spanish: their tonality was affected, singing with a distinct Spanish accent. I'll cite Verdi's funeral as a sigil of the depth of music in the soul of the Italian nation: despite the composer's instruction for simplicity, no music, the crowd started to express it's own epitaph in Va Pensiero, the Chorus of the Hebrew Slaves. It takes a native speaker to get that right, and they were not. | |||
==RE: "Legal Issue" segment== | |||
Who has conspired? Very confusing explanation. Can someone rewrite? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
==Wagner== | |||
I take great exception to the line about amps affecting their performance of opera from being the Gesamtkunstwerk which 'Wager conceived'. Not all of what they sang was opera, most of the opera they sang predates Wagner, and Wager was just one man with one idea (however revolutionary) about what opera should be. It ignores the bel canto school and everything pre-Wagnerian, in one throwaway comment. Also, there is no citation. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Concerts and world tours == | |||
I added description for the world tours of concerts. So far in the article 25 different Three Tenors concerts are mentioned. However some concerts are still missing. According to some references the total number of their concerts is more than 30, which means that at least 6 concerts are missing. Unfortunately I couldn't find sources with more information about those concerts. If anyone has more info on that please contribute. In addition perhaps we can add a table listing the concerts inside the article for more convinience.] (]) 06:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:This was already quickly fixed. ] (]) 01:06, 2 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Incoherent. BJ 13:15, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep and send to cleanup. Definitely notable. --rbrwr 13:59, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Update: I have done quite a lot of cleanup work on this article since it was nominated. --rbrwr 16:31, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- You did an excellent job, thanks. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 16:35, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have removed the cleanup tag. --rbrwr 17:10, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- You did an excellent job, thanks. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 16:35, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Update: I have done quite a lot of cleanup work on this article since it was nominated. --rbrwr 16:31, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep and cleanup. Yes, it's a mess but it's marginally better than nothing. --fvw* 14:02, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC)
- Obvious keep. Why the time-wasting nomination in the first place? Dan100 14:52, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)
- Cleanup needed, but valid subject. Keep. DJ Clayworth 14:59, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Strong keep, Weak cleanup. It could use cleanup, but many articles on more important subjects are in more urgent need of cleanup. This will do. It is far from incoherence. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:48, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep and remove cleanup tag. Yeah, it's not the perfect article, but how many are? There are soooooo many needier Cleanup candidates going back months--this can wait for normal, organic improvements. Niteowlneils 16:06, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Good article. And looking back through the history, I can find no reason for listing this on VfD at any stage. The very first version might have been a deletable substub, but one minute later it was a good stub at least. Andrewa 20:02, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, it's how they've funded their retirement. Wyss 00:38, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep . Xtra 01:13, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep Tuf-Kat 19:19, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Why was this nominated? If an article needs revision, that's not a criteria for VfD, IMO. 23skidoo 06:42, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, a world famous group consisting of, arguably, the three most famous tenors in the world. If the article was messy to begin with, it should have been sent to clenup not here.
- Keep. --BenM 15:25, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. And please stop deletion trolling. Mark Richards 21:46, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Delete nominator for bogus nomination - David Gerard 23:19, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. There should be a warning and then ban implemented for repeatedly listing articles which are unanimously voted keep. However, I do not think this would apply to Benjaminong. GRider\ 18:26, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep - The 3 tenors are a genuine subject. -- Judson 21:45, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep - Clearly a keeper Dmn / Դմն 00:14, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, the article should never have been nominated for deletion. -- Crevaner 00:17, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with Crevaner, it is indeed "clearly a keeper". -- Old Right 00:21, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
end moved discussion
Syntax errors
The writing here is inconsistent. It starts off saying that the Three Tenors are a series of concerts, then the second paragraph mentions the Three Tenors giving a concert. So which is it? Are they a concert or are the three tenors who give concerts? I'd say the latter, but I'd like to hear what others say. Also, should Zubin Mehta be mentioned? I know he's been the conductor at some of the most popular concerts, but I'm not sure if his association with them is more than incidental. Can anyone comment? -R. fiend 07:49, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- That inconsistency was probably a side-effect of my attempts to wrestle the pre-existing article into shape. I should have thrown it out and started afresh, with "The Three Tenors" being the singers, of course. Be bold in fixing it. --rbrwr 09:07, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC) ==
Seinfeld episode that mentions the other two several times, yet refers to Carreras only as "the other guy".
Needs expert commentary about the range and other technical abilities of each singer during the concert series and when in his prime.
Vocalists vs Singers
Why in the intro are Domingo and Carreras refered as vocalists and Pavarotti as singer? Could someone give a good explanation? Cheers --Karljoos (talk) 22:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Because the bulk of the tenor corpus is in Italian, not Spanish: their tonality was affected, singing with a distinct Spanish accent. I'll cite Verdi's funeral as a sigil of the depth of music in the soul of the Italian nation: despite the composer's instruction for simplicity, no music, the crowd started to express it's own epitaph in Va Pensiero, the Chorus of the Hebrew Slaves. It takes a native speaker to get that right, and they were not.
RE: "Legal Issue" segment
Who has conspired? Very confusing explanation. Can someone rewrite? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.173.5 (talk) 07:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Wagner
I take great exception to the line about amps affecting their performance of opera from being the Gesamtkunstwerk which 'Wager conceived'. Not all of what they sang was opera, most of the opera they sang predates Wagner, and Wager was just one man with one idea (however revolutionary) about what opera should be. It ignores the bel canto school and everything pre-Wagnerian, in one throwaway comment. Also, there is no citation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.25.60 (talk) 00:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Concerts and world tours
I added description for the world tours of concerts. So far in the article 25 different Three Tenors concerts are mentioned. However some concerts are still missing. According to some references the total number of their concerts is more than 30, which means that at least 6 concerts are missing. Unfortunately I couldn't find sources with more information about those concerts. If anyone has more info on that please contribute. In addition perhaps we can add a table listing the concerts inside the article for more convinience.Clicklander (talk) 06:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Orphaned references in The Three Tenors
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of The Three Tenors's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "NYT":
- From Hibari Misora: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE7DA1E3EF936A15755C0A96F948260 New York Times obituary June 25, 1989
- From The First Emperor: Lois Morris and Robert Lipsyte, "The Met's Way Out-of-Town Tryout", New York Times, 14 May 2006, (accessed 7 December 2006)
- From Andreas Scholl: Oestreich, James H. (15 November 2011). "Bringing Back the Baroque in a Revival Tailored to the Met". The New York Times.
- From Japan: Strom, Stephanie (July 15, 1999). "In Japan, Mired in Recession, Suicides Soar". The New York Times. Retrieved September 20, 2008.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:19, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- This was already quickly fixed. Rmm413 (talk) 01:06, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
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