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			==Stupid hatnote==
	Why the picture change. This is one of my least favorite pictures of her. Change please?
			Nobody in the known universe is going to confuse one of the most iconic singers in popular music history with an obscure album track by a barely known band. Reeks of self-promotion. ] (]) 04:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
	--] 04:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
			:Let's reel in the rhetoric a bit.

			:You don't think we should have the hatnote. That does not make it "stupid".
	Definitely she is much more beautiful than this picture suggests.
			:As a Fleetwood Mac fan for several decades who has seen them in concert several times and Nicks solo once, I'd say "one of the most iconic singers in popular music history" is an exaggeration.

			:"Self-promotion"? I guess it's ''possible'' {{u\|Jax 0677}} created an account in 2008, edited for 4 years, became part of a Texas band in 2012, waited for the band's 6th album 8 years later and decided to use his 12 years of editing Misplaced Pages to back up the weakest possible self-promotion I can think of in 2020. Then again, it's more likely you just disagree with the hatnote.
	----
			:IMO, per ], "Mention other topics and articles only if there is a reasonable possibility of a reader arriving at the article either by mistake or with another topic in mind." It seems unlikely that a non-single and otherwise non-notable track from an album with no singles (does "Entertainment One Music" have A&R reps?) from a weakly notable band, it's unlikely someone came to Misplaced Pages looking for details on the song.

			:Additionally, the edit warring to remove the hatnote is absurd. The hatnote sat there for a month before an IP decided it was somehow "spam". They were reverted. That would be a good time to ] the issue. Instead, the IP removed it again. Another good time to discuss the issue... FlightTime reverted again, asking for discussion. Then we got the above, and {{u\|Escape Orbit}} removing it again.

			:Seriously. - <span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span><sup>]</sup> 03:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
	== POV ==
			::Sorry, I wasn't aware there had been edit warring about this, but I stand by my edit. Very few people are going to come to Misplaced Pages looking for this album track. The album track is not of any significant notability, otherwise it would have an article of its own. No-one is going confuse the album article with the BLP, or expect to find an article on the album track in preference to the BLP. I don't believe the fact it sat there for a mere month to be a good reason for it being kept any longer. I'm not going to speculate on why it was added, but the editor who added it was misguided.
	This article reads like a fan page or a press release.--] 19:42, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
			::I am, of course, happy to be reverted if anyone can put a good case why it should be there. But I doubt it, and can't image why anyone would think it needs discussed. --] <sup>]</sup> 08:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


			== Mystical stage persona ==
	----

			What is a "mystical stage persona"? The lede says she has one, but there seems to be nothing in the article to support it. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:27, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
	Someone might want to add to the pop culture section. There was a punk song with the lyrics "sit on my face, Stevie Nicks" which might be worth mentioning. I don't have time to look it up right now. I was using this page to teach me how to do music tables for another project I was working on. --] 20:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

			:I don't think that kind of wording belongs in an encyclopedia. Besides, the cited source is from a blog on her own website. I will remove it. /VFD ] (]) 12:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
	FWIW, The Rotters was a band from Ventura County, CA...

			:Nicks ], who in turn says Nicks supports him. The connection ]. Is this notable here, and how could it be written in this article? ] (]) 21:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
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			== 2023 concerts with Billy Joel ==
	hey stvie nicks is the qween of rock and roll and should be into the rock and roll halll of fame. i have liked her fir ever when i was born hahahah

			Below is a quote from the tour section in the article:
	== Spam link ==

			"In 2023, she and Billy Joel will perform a series of concerts across the United States".
	I removed a link to a site selling "Stevie Nicks style" clothes and jewelry (enchantedmirror . com), since it obviously did not belong per ]. Several anonymous IP addresses have been trying to add it back without discussion, so please remove it if it is re-added. ]] 19:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

			It is 2024 now, either the concerts happened or they didn't. Either way it is out of date. (] (]) 21:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC))
	== Voice ==

			== Stevie Nicks ==
	What do you think of making a section on her voice?

			'''She also playes the piano.''' ] (]) 13:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
	==Blindness==

			== Recommendation ==
	I've often heard that Nicks has very poor eyesight and may well be legally blind; surely this should be mentioned if it is true. (And if it is not, it's a common enough belief about her that should be debunked.) I haven't found anything conclusive about this, so if there's someone who can document this, please do so. ] <sup><font size="-2">]</font></sup> 20:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
	: I didn't think Misplaced Pages was in the business of debunking myths, but if you feel so strongly about it, go ahead and add it to the article. --] <sup>]]</sup>/<sub>]]</sub> <small>• </small> 05:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
	::Read my post again. Is she near-blind or isn't she? If she is, it belongs in the article. I do not feel strongly about Stevie Nicks, and would prefer that someone else who knows the subject matter better add this information. ] <sup><font size="-2">]</font></sup> 07:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

			The article's lead section appears to be overly descriptive of her accomplishments rather than providing a broad overview of Nicks' life and career. The extensive coverage of her awards distracts from the introduction of some of the article's other subtopics, like her artistry and personal life. ] (]) 12:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
	==Betty Ford twice?==

			== Touring with Joe Walsh ==
	This article makes it sound like Stevie went to Betty Ford twice for cocaine addiction. According to any interview I have seen with her, she claims that she had to make it through the "Rock A Little" tour before she could go to rehab. There should be some clarity in the writing as there seems to be some confusion with her time with Dylan & Petty in Australia vs. her Rock A Little tour ending in Australia and then the start of her stint at Betty Ford.
	Also, the straw, roadie and anal consumption of cocaine has NEVER been substantiated. In fact, Nicks says that this completely untrue. Therefore, those statements do not have a place in a Misplaced Pages article. ] 06:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

			The following sentence:
	==Breasts?==
	I have never heard that she had implants. Please someone find a source for that claim.

			''Nicks toured with Walsh in 1984.''
	There have been many many interviews where she has talked about the breast implants and how they made her sick.

			is inaccurate. The tour with Walsh as opening act was in 1983, not 1984. See Waddy Wachtel’s website for confirmation (Wachtel was the lead guitarist on the tour).
	== University of Southern California ==

			http://waddywachtelinfo.com/StevieNicks3.html ] (]) 17:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
	I heard from somewhere that she went to USC and was in the marching band and thats why they were on the song "Tusk". Any validity to that.

			what is Stevie Nicks husband name and what does he look like? ] (]) 11:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
	--I have never heard that. I'm an avid Stevie Nicks fan and do alot of reading and have never read anything even mentioning that. --] 06:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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Stupid hatnote

Nobody in the known universe is going to confuse one of the most iconic singers in popular music history with an obscure album track by a barely known band. Reeks of self-promotion. 2A02:C7F:8F1A:F700:53:B8E6:7522:7E49 (talk) 04:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Let's reel in the rhetoric a bit.

You don't think we should have the hatnote. That does not make it "stupid".

As a Fleetwood Mac fan for several decades who has seen them in concert several times and Nicks solo once, I'd say "one of the most iconic singers in popular music history" is an exaggeration.

"Self-promotion"? I guess it's possible Jax 0677 created an account in 2008, edited for 4 years, became part of a Texas band in 2012, waited for the band's 6th album 8 years later and decided to use his 12 years of editing Misplaced Pages to back up the weakest possible self-promotion I can think of in 2020. Then again, it's more likely you just disagree with the hatnote.

IMO, per WP:HNR, "Mention other topics and articles only if there is a reasonable possibility of a reader arriving at the article either by mistake or with another topic in mind." It seems unlikely that a non-single and otherwise non-notable track from an album with no singles (does "Entertainment One Music" have A&R reps?) from a weakly notable band, it's unlikely someone came to Misplaced Pages looking for details on the song.

Additionally, the edit warring to remove the hatnote is absurd. The hatnote sat there for a month before an IP decided it was somehow "spam". They were reverted. That would be a good time to discuss the issue. Instead, the IP removed it again. Another good time to discuss the issue... FlightTime reverted again, asking for discussion. Then we got the above, and Escape Orbit removing it again.

Seriously. - SummerPhD 03:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't aware there had been edit warring about this, but I stand by my edit. Very few people are going to come to Misplaced Pages looking for this album track. The album track is not of any significant notability, otherwise it would have an article of its own. No-one is going confuse the album article with the BLP, or expect to find an article on the album track in preference to the BLP. I don't believe the fact it sat there for a mere month to be a good reason for it being kept any longer. I'm not going to speculate on why it was added, but the editor who added it was misguided.

I am, of course, happy to be reverted if anyone can put a good case why it should be there. But I doubt it, and can't image why anyone would think it needs discussed. --Escape Orbit 08:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Mystical stage persona

What is a "mystical stage persona"? The lede says she has one, but there seems to be nothing in the article to support it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:27, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't think that kind of wording belongs in an encyclopedia. Besides, the cited source is from a blog on her own website. I will remove it. /VFD Very Fantastic Dude (talk) 12:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Nicks says "muse" about Harry Styles, who in turn says Nicks supports him. The connection was found Notable there. Is this notable here, and how could it be written in this article? TGCP (talk) 21:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

2023 concerts with Billy Joel

Below is a quote from the tour section in the article:

"In 2023, she and Billy Joel will perform a series of concerts across the United States".

It is 2024 now, either the concerts happened or they didn't. Either way it is out of date. (Fran Bosh (talk) 21:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC))

Stevie Nicks

She also playes the piano. 2601:243:2181:1AC0:5F0:AB77:8E6:24D7 (talk) 13:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Recommendation

The article's lead section appears to be overly descriptive of her accomplishments rather than providing a broad overview of Nicks' life and career. The extensive coverage of her awards distracts from the introduction of some of the article's other subtopics, like her artistry and personal life. Ramblinman1 (talk) 12:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Touring with Joe Walsh

The following sentence:

Nicks toured with Walsh in 1984.

is inaccurate. The tour with Walsh as opening act was in 1983, not 1984. See Waddy Wachtel’s website for confirmation (Wachtel was the lead guitarist on the tour).

http://waddywachtelinfo.com/StevieNicks3.html 198.102.58.250 (talk) 17:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

what is Stevie Nicks husband name and what does he look like? 2600:6C54:7E00:1AC7:E438:698B:E0AC:F7E5 (talk) 11:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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