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Political marriages in India's protection has been upgraded to indefinite extended confirmed level , would you consider removing pending changes protection since it's no longer necessary? Ratnahastin (talk) 03:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

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Did you forget to actually do the unblock here? --jpgordon 20:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, any idea who RodeoReal76164 is?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:02, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Bbb23: Possibly a stupid question, but isn't that Daronandon? Polygnotus (talk) 18:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
No idea. I suppose I could request a CU. Honestly, I know nothing about the history of this whatever-it-is.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Oh yes, that's a good point. Now that I read their comments on the Talk page more closely there does seem to be some similarity. Chetsford (talk) 00:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
On further examination, Polygnotus, I think you're correct and have filed an SPI here. Chetsford (talk) 03:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Some of the word and phrasing use might lead one to believe it is MartinPict or one of its affiliated accounts. Beyond that, I could only speculate. Chetsford (talk) 23:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
All this drama on one of the most boring articles on Misplaced Pages! Polygnotus (talk) 08:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hello Chetsford,what are the specific issues with my article and how can I address them? SheneganShaw (talk) 02:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi SheneganShaw - you have four sources. Two of those appear to be your analysis of YouTube videos. This is problematic from the standpoint of both WP:OR and WP:RS. Your other two sources are offline -- which is totally fine -- but don't contain enough information (i.e. publisher, page number, etc.) by which we could determine, at a minimum, if they're RS, let alone WP:VERIFY their contents or existence. Please also read WP:SIGCOV. Chetsford (talk) 02:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
I have two book sources (that do include pages, authors, and titles, I dont see the issue) and two indepth videos by Olympic wrestlers describing and performing the techniques. I don't see how I am outside of the rules or short on reference. The issue also with wrestling techniques is that information about them is much more videod than written, and yet still I found two good literature sources... Ive been trying to publish this for so long, please help me SheneganShaw (talk) 19:18, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi SheneganShaw - you're free to resubmit it if you feel my review was not correct and another editor will be along soon to look at it. Chetsford (talk) 19:35, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

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I don't think we need the bit between discussion pivoted and To get back. Polygnotus (talk) 03:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Trouble not yourself with worry. Chetsford (talk) 05:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
That's the kind of person I am. Polygnotus (talk) 08:43, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Question on Red Square Christmas Market

Excuse me, but how do the warnings on my article make sense? No where do I promote the Christmas market, by that logic any article about any event like that should be considered promoting it. And also it, could you please explain why the sources are unreliable? Viceskeeni2 (talk) 20:07, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

IMO, the first two sentences of the "Stands" section reads like a tourist brochure. Insofar as sources go, Radio Sputnik is on our list of deprecated sources. That said, if you disagree, just remove the tags - no problem. Chetsford (talk) 00:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
So I can remove those two on the top of the article if I remove the Radiosputnik article? Viceskeeni2 (talk) 08:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Sure, or you can just remove them if you don't think they're valid or whatever. Our policy on deprecated sources is here -- WP:DEPS. You can review it and see if you feel it applies in this case. I'm not the sheriff of Misplaced Pages. Chetsford (talk) 08:33, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Alright, thanks 👍 Viceskeeni2 (talk) 09:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Watford DC line

You declined my RPP request for the above. The offending editor is back with a revert (diff) plus a very childish response on the talkpage discussion. Would you be prepared to revert the page to a stable version then protect? 10mmsocket (talk) 20:21, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

10mmsocket -- I just undid the editor's latest edit. If this happens again, please let me know and I'll address it at the user-level. Chetsford (talk) 20:28, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
You are a fine person. Many thanks. 10mmsocket (talk) 20:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Internship and Trainee J1 Visa Program

Hello, in response to the comment left on the sandbox for the titled draft article "Internship and Trainee J1 Visa Program": "Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Misplaced Pages. You can find it and improve it at J-1 visa instead."

The sections in the main J1 Visa Misplaced Pages article do not reference directly what the Internship & Trainee Programs are; the linked Misplaced Pages articles for the words "Internship" and "Trainee" separately reference a general overview of what the terms mean, yet not the specific program considerations and requirements. Meanwhile, another J1 program is linked to it´s own article "Summer Work Travel", specifying the direct requirements of the program, for example. The existing J1 Visa article does not include specific information detailing the Internship & Trainee program, which has many similarities to the Summer Work and Travel program, and should therefore have it´s own article in the same vein.

Keeping all this in mind, please reconsider the possibility of publishing the rejected article.

Thanks. Rafaelegs2024 (talk) 15:32, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Rafaelegs2024. I'm afraid I don't understand the difference between Internship and Trainee J1 Visa Program and J-1 visa, however, this may be a personal failing. I'll ask someone else to review your draft in short order. Thanks for your patience. Chetsford (talk) 15:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Rafaelegs2024 - please see my comment here. Someone should be able to look at this in the near future and remedy any error. Thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Chetsford (talk) 15:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks for the DYK review. In it you said that ... Stuff may be questionably reliable for BLPs ... could you please clarify why you think this? I'm just curious as I haven't heard someone question its reliability before. It might be the largest news media website in the country. ―Panamitsu (talk) 00:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Panamitsu - disregard my comment. I had it confused with a different Stuff. Chetsford (talk) 00:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Ah, haha. No worries. ―Panamitsu (talk) 00:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Can I get extended confirmed rights on my account to post on Magnolia677's talk page please? 114.164.101.147 (talk) 19:05, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

No. Extended confirmed rights can't be granted to IP editors. You'll need to register an account, make 500 edits, and wait 30 days. Chetsford (talk) 19:10, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
But I need extended confirmed

I need to post something on Magnolia677's talk page

Can you at least take off the extended confirmed protection on her talk page then
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Tell me what you need to post and I'll pass on the message at some point in the undetermined future. Chetsford (talk) 20:10, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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