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I thought they had 5 seats? |
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== Reducing the Ideologies == |
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: One seat in 2003 federal elections, 5 in the 2004 flemish elections, on a shared list with CD&V. ] |
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Looking at the infobox, it looks there are too many. I propose reducing them to two. The ideologies are below: |
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In the 5th Paragraph where the text moves to 1st person - can someone claify whether this is a quotation, or needs to be edited into encylopaedic style. --] 21:17, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC) |
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*Flemish nationalism |
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*Conservatism |
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This doesn't include getting rid of the historical ideology and positions. |
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== liberalism == |
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] (]) 20:16, 28 May 2023 (UTC) |
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I've added liberalism to the party's ideology. The chairman of the liberal organization ] has now become part of the party, and ] represents a liberal faction. ] 17:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:You really can't call a party liberal because some marginal politicians, looking for a new party, joined it. --] 18:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC) |
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::It is undeniable that Dedecker is a liberal faction in the N-VA, or do you beg to differ? What about Storme's liberal conservatism? Or the conservatism of De Wever? ] 18:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:::I know several N-VA members that are neo-nazis... --] 19:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC) |
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::::It's not because some members of a party adhere to a specific ideology, that the entire party should adhere that ideology. |
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::::If you want to call the N-VA liberal, because two of its members are liberals, then we should also call it fascist, since some of its members are fascist. |
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::::And please don't try and censor my remarks. There still is something like freedom of speech. --] 21:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:Flemish nationalism and conservatism is fine as far as solutions go.-- ] (]) 20:34, 28 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== cartel == |
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::I'd keep separatism too as it is certainly known for this. ] (]) 21:22, 28 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Flemish nationalism, encompassing separatism, and conservatism as enough! --] (]) 08:34, 29 May 2023 (UTC) |
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CD&V broke the cartel . ] 18:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC) |
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::::I would agree that there is no need for “separatism” if Flemish nationalism is listed, and is a more specific description as well. The separatism and regionalism references are best left to the article body, IMO.— ] (]) 09:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::Yea we do need more ideologies ] (]) 10:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::Including even more ideologies is not the purpose of an infobox. ] (]) 09:39, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::OK, I agree with this. ] (]) 09:40, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::I'll change the infobox soon. ] (]) 11:06, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::Alas, there is no need of "pro-Europeanism"—and the party has always been centre-right (a minor left-wing faction splintered at some point, but it was so small that it did not create any damage to the party). Thus, feeling bold, I am going to remove "pro-Europeanism" and "big tent". --] (]) 21:08, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::Okay :) {{ping|Checco}} Also, I've started a conversation of reducing the ideologies of Vlaams Belang too on its talk page. ] (]) 21:11, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::Currently, the introduction states that the N-VA is eurosceptic, while they fight for an independent Flanders in a strong EU. They sometimes criticize the bureaucracy within the EU and want to reform it completely, but they do fight for a kind of confederal model at European level, where each member state has rights and obligations. |
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::::::::By calling the party eurosceptic, they seem anti-EU. Later in the article I read soft-eurosceptic, I think this should also be in the introduction. ] (]) 08:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::The N-VA has become more and more liberal in the last 8 years, currently even the most liberal party according to well-known journalists such as Ivan De Vadder and Isolde Van den Eynde. So I think it is useful to include this, the party is still ethically conservative, although that has decreased enormously. ] (]) 08:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC) |
Looking at the infobox, it looks there are too many. I propose reducing them to two. The ideologies are below:
