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I'd need a professional body statement (such as the APA, AAA or AAPA statements on race) from biologists and/or geneticists on what they think about the subject of "race"... This is of course for the R&I article. Please let me know if anything comes to mind. Thanks in advance.--] (]) 15:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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I must inform you you have no right to manipulate my discussion page. Are you insane? Do not obligate me to report you. You have been noticed.--] 17:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I have not "manipulated" anything. I have translated some French and Spanish into English. This is English Misplaced Pages. I might just as well accuse you of "manipulating" my talk page when you leave a message. | |||
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I'd like to personally apologize for failing to re-check the source of that passage when you suggested it. I should have, but didn't, relying upon my earlier notation instead. I posted the full citation of the passage on the talkpage. Thanks, --] <small>]</small> 14:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
:That's funny coming from a new user whose first action in Misplaced Pages was to post insulting coments in my own talk page . ] | |||
:No problem. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Appreciate it. ] (]) 15:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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::The warning can stay as far as I'm concerned, it has no relevance, it is illegitimate and carries no effective force. It is evidence of a series of attempts at intimidation of good faith users by calling them "vandals". Anyone can see that what I did was not vandalism. They damage themselves more than me by posting these "warns". ] 06:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== I call for a truce (una tregua). == | |||
== Thanks == | |||
I think just about every actor here has in some way been at fault. We may not agree politically and we each clearly have our own trusted group of collaborators, but that should not in itself be reason for us not to be able to work together or at least along-side each other during the coarse of our overlapping time here. Wobble, you clearly do not understand (let alone appreciate) the New Falanges s purpose and positions, I think if you were to read some of their writings you would find yourself pleasantly surprised, they are not your grandfather s fascistas; also, technically you are right in claiming the privilege to translate text from another user s talkpage, but it would surely have been more courteous of you (and in no way onerous) if you had also taken the time to make the immediate effort to explain yourself, the comment no pasarán was entirely uncalled far (it was blatently aggressive). Baliño, I think you should frankly make yourself scarce for a while. To Sugaar I have nothing to say.] 06:31, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
I never thanked for your condolence note last year, but I appreciate it more than I can possibly express. All the best, in friendship. ] (]) 16:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
*''technically you are right claiming the privilege to translate text'' | |||
:No, not "technically". I have this right. Just as you have the right to post here. There is no way to leave "secret" messages here, we are all responsible for our own contributions and edits. I do not hide behind Welsh when I want to talk to other Welsh users. This is English wikipedia, we post in English, it's common ]. ] 06:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:The ''no pasarán'' was not a personal attack, nor was it any sort of insult. I was defending myself from another user who had accused me of "vandalism" implying that I am "insane". Please ask an administrator to investigate, I'd be happy to cooperate as I've done nothing wrong. ] 06:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I am only interested in producing ballanced articles. I want all articles to reflect ], ] and ]. I also think we need to use ]. I have not been involved in these "race" articles untill recently, they are not my primary interest here, but I feel I have been drawn into them because there are so many POV pushers on these articles, these pov pushers especially distort their sources (by claiming they say things they do not) and also try to include non-reliable sources. I am not interested in anthropology, I know a bit about molecular biology and genetics, so these are the areas I tend to cover. To produce a neutral point of view we need to say that some peoplebelieve that race is a biological phenomenon, and that others do not. It is incorrect to claim that every scientist believes that "race" is a biological phenomenon. I am happy to include all points of view, but it seems that some editors do not want to include the point of view that they disagree with. This is a breach of the NPOV policy. I see no merit in namecalling or in fighting over who is "right" or "wrong". There are just different "points of view". So we include all points of view, and we cite them from reliable sources. It's simple. ] 06:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Race and intelligence mediation == | |||
I see you had some recent vandalism trouble, isn't that just too bad.--] 18:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Vandalism of my user page doesn't bother me. Why should it? I don't know how people can be bothered about it, it just get's revereted anyway. I reverted some edits to some Scottish football pages that were really badly written, and the person who made the original edits took exception. I don't know anything about Scottish football, but I do know about poor edits and neutrality and encyclopaedic standards. As I say vandalism to user pages is futile (and impotent), it achieves nothing and usually gets reverted quite quickly. It takes more time to do the vandalism than to revert it, especially with ]. The vandalism made me laugh out loud, it's quite funny. Like this made me laugh as well. ] 20:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I do not understand what is going on here. Who are these "fascistas" and why do they need a truce? what does that last comment mean? --] 18:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
Wobble, | |||
I've responded to you ] at the mediation. slrubenstein has made some suggestions about revising the statements to adress your concerns, and I'm waiting on your approval before I do so. sorry for any confusion about my purpose on the page. --] 17:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
I do not know what to do with "fascistas" or what is that they want. I do think that it needs attention. I am not sure what exactly however. It might be good to report it if you know how.--] 20:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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: I am leaning towards just ignoring the "fascistas". I think they must be just some kids playing around. And as you say, they cannot make any headway at all because they will just reverted. If they fight too much, they will just get banned. --] 21:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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You clearly missed the entire point of his comment "friend." He said he was 5 10 ''but'' | |||
his mother only 5 2, but that's exactly it we're talking about a woman, more interesting would be to know his mother's father's height. You see demons where there are none, I suggest you see therapist for your "fascist" ghost delusions.--] 05:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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I'd also ask you to leave a note for {{user|David.Kane}} on his talk page. Whatever your opinion of the draft itself, I think he deserves thanks for putting a lot of time and effort into making the revisions. --] 18:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:I am disregarding this "warn" because it is spurious and does not constitute any relevancy to "vandalism". ] 06:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
Hi Wobble,</br>coming over from Commons where your image ] has been tagged for deletion. While the presented rationale isn't that convincing, I see a problem with personality rights as this is an indoor shot of fully identifiable non-notable people. Honestly, do you have the informed consent of the parents for broad publication of this image under a free license? --] (]) 07:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Ummm, I am their parent. ] (]) 15:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Huxley races == | |||
Friend I strongly suggest you not associate with ] he's a known Basque Ultra-Nationalist and hence ] sympathizer. This rat is cornered.--] 11:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
Hi Wobble. Your map http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Huxley_races.png lists ] under number 1. Because you say "map of the distribution of human races by Thomas Huxley", I am not sure whether the terms used by Huxley must stay as is. What I am getting at, is whether Bushmen should not be replaced by Bushmen (or San) and ]. ] (]) 17:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I don't see how he can be a "Nationalist" and an Anarchist, these things are opposite. I will leave messages where I see fit, and associate with whoever I want to. Personally I disapprove of violence as a way to gain political change, but I can accept that some people see violence as a legitimate political option. If Sugaar believes that Basque people have the right to self determination then it is his prerogative, and I would generally agree that this is true for all ]. In fact violence is more associated with ''falangists'' and ''fascists'' than with libertarians. How many people did Franco, Mussolini, Saddam Hussein, Hitler and Stalin (also a ''fascist'' in my opinion) illegally torture and murder? ''Fascists'' and ''falangists'' traditionally use indiscriminate violence in order to maintain fear in a population they seek to dominate, this is why dictatorial regimes all have their lists of the "missing". Some terrorist organisations use similar tactics, such as the 9/11 bombers. Traditional European terrorists like ETA and the IRA are generally more descriminate and have not used indiscriminate mass murder, but have generally attacked what they see as "legitimate targets". I don't agree with either form of murder, but I can differentiate between indiscriminate mass murder and the use of violence against specific targets. ] 11:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, I see your point. I don't know. I used the term bushmen because that is what Huxley used. I simply don't know if the people he meant correspond to the same group as what we might call San today. In general I think there would be no problem with the change though. ] (]) 09:59, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
Give up, you will not be able to hold the fort all by yourself, plus the others will soon be arriving.--] 13:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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This makes no sense. What do the regional aspirations of groups in Spain have to do with black people?--] 13:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Why are you being hard headed and reverting my edits, you've had your fun, but the article as it is stinks worse than spoiled cabbage. Why do you insist?--] 13:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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I think explaining everthing in terms of cross-mating between caucasians and Africans on the one hand and caucasians and Orientals on the other, is a bit simplistic, and perhaps a bit too much information. If you don't mind I took the liberty of suddenly adding to the caption that genetic varaition is gradual (as opposed to discrete categories) and that Sforza himself does not believe in race, so that the gist of what you're saying is represented, withot trying to go into too much unneeded detail. ] 20:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Human genetic variation article review == | |||
I hope you don't mind but I reverted your latest edits. The whole point of the gallery is to illustrate the definitions with specific examples and you're deleting almost everything useful such as references to specific definitions. First you were offended by any talk of genetics, and now you're even offended by basic dictionary and census definitions. Why don't you just nominate the whole aticle for deletion? ] 07:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Your friend Sugaar has been misbehaving again, please keep him in line, he's becoming rabid.--] 07:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Moving ] - ongoing poll == | |||
We seem to be having a cultural difference. In North America it's considered extremely offensive and racist to call an Australian aboriginal or any other non-African black, so we can't take the attitude that everyone in the gallary is black. The term black has special meaning to people of African descent and it's very offensive to people of African descent to see the term black used to describe others. Thus, in order to be NPOV, all we can say is person X is black by this definition but not by that definition. ] 08:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
This is to let you know that an ongoing poll is taking place to move ]. | |||
You are the one who is favoring one definition over another by making statements like "this is an exclusive concept and would exclude many Black people of non recent African ancestry." The very fact that you are calling people with non-recent African ancestry black is favoring the broader definition. Hence in order for the article to be NPOV, we can't call ANYONE black or not black, all we can do is report how they are classified by various definitions. ] 08:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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You wrote: | |||
''To claim that the Africocentric POV is just a POV is neutral, to claim that this is an exclusive concept and would exclude many Black people of non recent African ancestry is true,'' | |||
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It's not POV to say that the concept excludes people, however it IS POV to say that the people being excluded are black. Because there's no agreed upon definition of who is black, the article itself should never refer to anyone as black or not black, yet you did this repeatedly. Now had you wrote, ''this is an exclusive concept and would exclude many dark skinned people of non recent African ancestry'' or ''this is an exclusive concept and would exclude many people who are considered black in certain countries'', that would be NPOV because then you are not making the POV assertion that the people in question are in fact black. I also don't care for the tone of the statement because calling one definition of black exclusive is true, but has a negative connotaion, as if there is something wrong with black being defined that way. Now I understand your concern that the exclusive definition of black seems over emphasized, but this is simply because virtually all the cited definitions of black people emphasize African ancestry. Even the definition you provided on the talk page which I recently added to the article emphasized African ancestry. The article is little more than a collection of definitions of a social construct and the purpose of the gallary is simply to illustrate the aplications of those cited definitions. The article has a North American bias only to the extent that North Americans are in a position of influence, so most of the cited sources people can find are by North Americans, since North Americans tend to dominate the web and other forms of communciation. Perhaps Australian aboriginals would have a very different definition of what it means to be black, but unless they publish it in some notable accessible forum, an encyclopedia the depends on reliable sources can't cite it. That may not be fair, but that's wikipedia. ] 11:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
I saw on the genetics projects page that you were interested in genetics, but not any particular genetics-speciality. Would you perhaps like to help with the genetics collaboration of the month, the ] article? That's a fairly broad article, since it does not focus on one specific disease and I thought you perhaps could come with some input. Best. --] (]) 11:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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You must be so looking forward to the new biography by her sister "Wobble"? | |||
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Bought/read it. Only thing missed out is the invitation card for the 'D.N.A. Helix' funeral... | |||
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== Problematic Phylogeny Diagram from 2007 == | |||
Hi Wobble, I see that you are the author of this diagram, from 2007: https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Molecular_lineage.png | |||
My impression is that it was intended to illustrate some basic concept about phylogeny in a generic way. However, unfortunately, with the letters A and B on it, it is being taken quite literally by some readers who have written to me. They are supposing that there is some unnamed, "Ancestral Haplogroup" ancestral to human Y-DNA haplogroups A and B, and which '''still survives to the present'''. They have been barraging me with questions as to whether it is A00, or what it would be. I participated as a volunteer project admin in the discovery of A00, and was a co-author of the paper about it in the AJHG. I'm continuing research on A00, so people are looking to me for the scoop. I keep telling them that there is no "third branch" as they are thinking. Do you think we could come up with a diagram that will illustrate phylogenetics in a way that is not going to give them the wrong idea? Thanks! ] (]) 18:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:The image is clearly a schematic of how mutations arise, and not meant to be representative of the actual Y chromosome phylogeny. After all, that itself is under constant review as new mutations are discovered, and the mutations aren't labelled as Y chromosome mutations would be, after all, haplogroup B is defined by B-M60, and I don't label that mutation as B-M60. Also there must have been an an ancestral Y chromosome to haplogroup A, that fact it is no longer extant doesn't mean it never existed. I don't mean to seem rude, but what I'm hearing from you is "some people are just too stupid to understand a simple schematic". This is an encyclopedia, it doesn't contain original research, it should contain explanations and illustrations that aid understanding of concepts. I made this image a very long time ago, and I haven't been involved in Misplaced Pages seriously for six years or more, I got very burned out with the constant wikilawyering and politicking. Personally I think the image is clearly illustrative of a concept, and obviously not meant to be taken literally. It's not a great image, I am sure that many people could produce something far more aesthetically pleasing, I don't pretend to be very good at drawing, I only wanted to help people understand why Y chromosome mutations are sequential and define haplogroups. I really don't care what you do, put it up for deletion, whatever. I'm done giving my time to help people who only ever attack and criticise you for it. I don't particularly feel responsible for the fact that some people are too stupid to grasp the basic concept of a schematic. ] (]) 04:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Need you to point me in the right direction
I'd need a professional body statement (such as the APA, AAA or AAPA statements on race) from biologists and/or geneticists on what they think about the subject of "race"... This is of course for the R&I article. Please let me know if anything comes to mind. Thanks in advance.--Ramdrake (talk) 15:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Mea culpa
I'd like to personally apologize for failing to re-check the source of that passage when you suggested it. I should have, but didn't, relying upon my earlier notation instead. I posted the full citation of the passage on the talkpage. Thanks, --Aryaman (talk) 14:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
- No problem. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Appreciate it. Alun (talk) 15:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
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I never thanked for your condolence note last year, but I appreciate it more than I can possibly express. All the best, in friendship. Guettarda (talk) 16:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
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Wobble,
I've responded to you here at the mediation. slrubenstein has made some suggestions about revising the statements to adress your concerns, and I'm waiting on your approval before I do so. sorry for any confusion about my purpose on the page. --Ludwigs2 17:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
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there 's a draft of an outline at Wikipedia_talk:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2009-11-12/Race_and_Intelligence#Proposed_outline. You have not yet commented on it, and I am preparing to give the outline to David.Kane (per current agreement in mediation) to enter a draft of the article in mainspace. There will be a review/revision period after the draft is entered in which any issues can be addressed, so if you have no immediate comment, or can't get to the mediation page to make a comment, you can participate in the review and we can address any concerns you still have there.
sorry for the bulk message. --Ludwigs2 11:02, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
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A new draft of the race and intelligence article is being edited into mainspace, based on discussion in mediation. It should be completed sometime on 4/1/2010. I am posting this notice to mediation participants in the hopes that those who have not contributed recently to the mediation will come back to review and comment on the draft, and help discuss any revisions that need to be made. You may make any reviews or comments at the mediation page, and we will discuss any revisions that need to be made.
I'd also ask you to leave a note for David.Kane (talk · contribs) on his talk page. Whatever your opinion of the draft itself, I think he deserves thanks for putting a lot of time and effort into making the revisions. --Ludwigs2 18:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Race
you might want to keep an eye on this discussion. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Wobble,
coming over from Commons where your image File:Twobrothers.jpg has been tagged for deletion. While the presented rationale isn't that convincing, I see a problem with personality rights as this is an indoor shot of fully identifiable non-notable people. Honestly, do you have the informed consent of the parents for broad publication of this image under a free license? --Túrelio (talk) 07:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ummm, I am their parent. Alun (talk) 15:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Huxley races
Hi Wobble. Your map http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Huxley_races.png lists Bushmen under number 1. Because you say "map of the distribution of human races by Thomas Huxley", I am not sure whether the terms used by Huxley must stay as is. What I am getting at, is whether Bushmen should not be replaced by Bushmen (or San) and Khoikhoi. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 17:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I see your point. I don't know. I used the term bushmen because that is what Huxley used. I simply don't know if the people he meant correspond to the same group as what we might call San today. In general I think there would be no problem with the change though. Alun (talk) 09:59, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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I saw on the genetics projects page that you were interested in genetics, but not any particular genetics-speciality. Would you perhaps like to help with the genetics collaboration of the month, the genome-wide association study article? That's a fairly broad article, since it does not focus on one specific disease and I thought you perhaps could come with some input. Best. --LasseFolkersen (talk) 11:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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You must be so looking forward to the new biography by her sister "Wobble"?
2.27.113.92 (talk) 18:50, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Bought/read it. Only thing missed out is the invitation card for the 'D.N.A. Helix' funeral... 2.30.208.50 (talk) 19:51, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
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You participated in a Burma RM in the past so I'm informing you of another RM. I hope I didn't miss anyone. New move attempt of Burma>Myanmar Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Problematic Phylogeny Diagram from 2007
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- The image is clearly a schematic of how mutations arise, and not meant to be representative of the actual Y chromosome phylogeny. After all, that itself is under constant review as new mutations are discovered, and the mutations aren't labelled as Y chromosome mutations would be, after all, haplogroup B is defined by B-M60, and I don't label that mutation as B-M60. Also there must have been an an ancestral Y chromosome to haplogroup A, that fact it is no longer extant doesn't mean it never existed. I don't mean to seem rude, but what I'm hearing from you is "some people are just too stupid to understand a simple schematic". This is an encyclopedia, it doesn't contain original research, it should contain explanations and illustrations that aid understanding of concepts. I made this image a very long time ago, and I haven't been involved in Misplaced Pages seriously for six years or more, I got very burned out with the constant wikilawyering and politicking. Personally I think the image is clearly illustrative of a concept, and obviously not meant to be taken literally. It's not a great image, I am sure that many people could produce something far more aesthetically pleasing, I don't pretend to be very good at drawing, I only wanted to help people understand why Y chromosome mutations are sequential and define haplogroups. I really don't care what you do, put it up for deletion, whatever. I'm done giving my time to help people who only ever attack and criticise you for it. I don't particularly feel responsible for the fact that some people are too stupid to grasp the basic concept of a schematic. Alun (talk) 04:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
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