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The result was '''Speedy keep'''. Not a useless topic. ] 02:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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Useless topic purely created for trolling/nation bashing see contributor, is none other then the infamous Indian nationalist ] who is a racist and has made ethnic slurs, see the Raf pending against him ] 15:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC) Useless topic purely created for trolling/nation bashing see contributor, is none other then the infamous Indian nationalist ] who is a racist and has made ethnic slurs, see the Raf pending against him ] ] 15:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
*{{user|Hkelkar}} is not the sole editor of the article, and the neutrality disputes are being worked out on the talk page. The article is poorly sourced, with many citations being unusable. However, a quick Google Scholar search turns up a whole boatload of usable sources for an article on the subject of Pakistani nationalism, some of which are:
**{{cite journal|journal=Tijdschrift voor Economische en Sociale Geografie|volume=93|issue=2|pages=149|date=May 2002|doi=10.1111/1467-9663.00191|title=Process of Othering in the case of India and Pakistan|author=Sanjay Chaturvedi}}
**{{cite web|title=The United States and South Asia:Trapped by the Past?|author=Selig S. Harrison|work=Current History|publisher=Current History, Inc.|date=December 1997|url=http://www.currenthistory.com/archivedec97/harrison.html}}
**{{cite journal|title=The State and Civil Society in Pakistan: From Crisis to Crisis|author=Iftikhar H. Malik|journal=Asian Survey|volume=36|issue=7|date=July 1996|pages=673&ndash;690}}
**{{cite journal|title=Ethnicity and State Power in Pakistan: The Karachi Crisis|author=Moonis Ahmar|journal=Asian Survey|volume=36|issue=10|date=October 1996|pages=1031&ndash;1048}}
**{{cite paper|author=Malik, Hafeez|title=The Growth of Pakistani Nationalism, 800 AD &ndash; 1947 AD|date=1961|location=Syracuse, New York|publisher=]}}
**{{cite paper|title=Foundations of Pakistani Nationalism: The Life and Times of Allama Iqbal|author=MH Khatana|work=Prof. Dr. S. Razi Wasti's Collection, GC University Libraries, Lahore}}
**{{cite journal|title=Why Pakistan's Unity Was Jeopardized?|author=Feroz Ahmed|journal=Pakistan Forum|volume=2|issue=3|date=December 1971|pages=4&ndash;6|doi=10.2307/2569081}}
**{{cite journal|title=The Idea of a Pakistani Nationhood|author=Anwar H. Syed|volume=12|issue=4|date=Summer 1980|pages=575&ndash;597|doi=10.2307/3234301}}
**{{cite journal|journal=Inter-Asia Cultural Studies|publisher=Routledge|volume=6|issue=3|date=September 2005|pages=318&ndash;340|doi=10.1080/14649370500169946|title=A national culture for Pakistan: the political economy of a debate|author=Saadia Toor}}
*Thus whatever problems that there are with the article can be solved by working from sources. The nomination appears to be an attempt to mis-use AFD for solving a neutrality and sourcing dispute. The proper venue for that is the article's talk page, where indeed such discussions have been ongoing for several months. '''Keep'''. ] 17:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, I did not even create the article. It was created by another Pakistani User ].] 20:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
'''Keep''' Bad faith nom from a user who himself has made racist and sexist attacks. See {{Userlinks|Street Scholar}}, his block log, and extensive list of complaints against this disruptive user. ] 19:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
::Also, see , concerning street scholar. User routinely makes sexist, racist and drogatory comments, is extremely disruptive, blanks sourced content across pages (vandalism) and is generally trollish in behavior. Perhaps admin should close this AfD early on account of the extreme bad faith behind the nom.] 20:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' -- bad faith nomination based purely on a content dispute with the article. While I have no desire to get involved in the content dispute, proposing an article for deletion isn't the way to fix things. (I've learned this lesson the hard way.) --] - ] 20:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' -- can't say as I'm a big fan of Hkelkar's style, but the article is a notable subject and fails no deletion criteria. --<span style="font-family:Verdana;">]]]<small><sup>]|]</sup></small></span> 22:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy keep. Not a useless topic. El_C 02:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Pakistani nationalism

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Useless topic purely created for trolling/nation bashing see contributor, is none other then the infamous Indian nationalist Hkelkar who is a racist and has made ethnic slurs, see the Raf pending against him here StreetScholar 15:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Hkelkar (talk · contribs) is not the sole editor of the article, and the neutrality disputes are being worked out on the talk page. The article is poorly sourced, with many citations being unusable. However, a quick Google Scholar search turns up a whole boatload of usable sources for an article on the subject of Pakistani nationalism, some of which are:
    • Sanjay Chaturvedi (May 2002). "Process of Othering in the case of India and Pakistan". Tijdschrift voor Economische en Sociale Geografie. 93 (2): 149. doi:10.1111/1467-9663.00191.
    • Selig S. Harrison (December 1997). "The United States and South Asia:Trapped by the Past?". Current History. Current History, Inc.
    • Iftikhar H. Malik (July 1996). "The State and Civil Society in Pakistan: From Crisis to Crisis". Asian Survey. 36 (7): 673–690.
    • Moonis Ahmar (October 1996). "Ethnicity and State Power in Pakistan: The Karachi Crisis". Asian Survey. 36 (10): 1031–1048.
    • Malik, Hafeez (1961). "The Growth of Pakistani Nationalism, 800 AD – 1947 AD". Syracuse, New York: Syracuse University. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
    • MH Khatana. "Foundations of Pakistani Nationalism: The Life and Times of Allama Iqbal". Prof. Dr. S. Razi Wasti's Collection, GC University Libraries, Lahore.
    • Feroz Ahmed (December 1971). "Why Pakistan's Unity Was Jeopardized?". Pakistan Forum. 2 (3): 4–6. doi:10.2307/2569081.
    • Anwar H. Syed (Summer 1980). "The Idea of a Pakistani Nationhood". 12 (4): 575–597. doi:10.2307/3234301. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
    • Saadia Toor (September 2005). "A national culture for Pakistan: the political economy of a debate". Inter-Asia Cultural Studies. 6 (3). Routledge: 318–340. doi:10.1080/14649370500169946.
  • Thus whatever problems that there are with the article can be solved by working from sources. The nomination appears to be an attempt to mis-use AFD for solving a neutrality and sourcing dispute. The proper venue for that is the article's talk page, where indeed such discussions have been ongoing for several months. Keep. Uncle G 17:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I did not even create the article. It was created by another Pakistani User User:S Seagal.Hkelkar 20:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep Bad faith nom from a user who himself has made racist and sexist attacks. See Street Scholar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), his block log, and extensive list of complaints against this disruptive user. Hkelkar 19:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, see this, concerning street scholar. User routinely makes sexist, racist and drogatory comments, is extremely disruptive, blanks sourced content across pages (vandalism) and is generally trollish in behavior. Perhaps admin should close this AfD early on account of the extreme bad faith behind the nom.Hkelkar 20:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep -- bad faith nomination based purely on a content dispute with the article. While I have no desire to get involved in the content dispute, proposing an article for deletion isn't the way to fix things. (I've learned this lesson the hard way.) --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 20:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep -- can't say as I'm a big fan of Hkelkar's style, but the article is a notable subject and fails no deletion criteria. --Elaragirl 22:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.