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# Unnessecary. And what's a 70% majority? 50%+1 is a majority, you don't need to point out that 70% is. ]] 12:34, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC) # Unnecessary. And what's a 70% majority? 50%+1 is a majority, you don't need to point out that 70% is. ]] 12:34, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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#There is no need for that. ] 11:55, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC) #There is no need for that. ] 11:55, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)
#Speedy delete criteria should be clear enough that there is no need to spell out what they exclude. ]\<sup><font color="gray">]</font></sup> 01:10, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC) #Speedy delete criteria should be clear enough that there is no need to spell out what they exclude. ]\] 01:10, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#] 02:26, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC) That's not what many people meant with their disagree votes. Many of the disagreements are not absolute as this proposal would suggest. #] 02:26, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC) That's not what many people meant with their disagree votes. Many of the disagreements are not absolute as this proposal would suggest.
# Strictly speaking unnecessary since CSD already specifies that "For any articles that are not speedy deletion candidates, use Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion." --] 02:42, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC) # Strictly speaking unnecessary since CSD already specifies that "For any articles that are not speedy deletion candidates, use Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion." --] 02:42, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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#] ] 16:14, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC): My reason is . As stated in the link a survey generates a concensus with Wikipedians. Just because a majority disagree doesn't mean the proposal should be rejected by Jimbo or any commitee that controls these things. That would make Misplaced Pages a pure ], which it is not.
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#Opinions may change soon. ] 21:30, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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#] Er, what? By definition, candidates for speedy deletion are those specified. Anything unspecified is therefore not a candidate for speedy deletion without need to explicitly say so. 05:55, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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Proposal IX (Deprecation)

(Vote) (Discuss)

If any specific proposal from I to VII (or proposal X) receives a 70% majority of disagree votes, Misplaced Pages:Candidates for speedy deletion should explicitly rule it out as a criterion for speedy deletion.

Votes

Agree

  1. Smoddy | Talk 00:14, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  2. Ld | talk 00:16, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Disagree

  1. BLANKFAZE | (что??) 00:03, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  2. Neutrality 00:11, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  3. Ground 00:11, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  4. Xtra 00:33, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  5. max rspct 00.34 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  6. David Gerard 00:40, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  7. ugen64 00:46, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  8. JRM 01:02, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)
  9. MarkSweep 01:19, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  10. Vamp:Willow 01:38, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  11. A lot of these are vague. How would we explicitly rule out something that's already unclear?--Sketchee 01:45, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  12. ‣ᓛᖁ♀ᑐ 02:11, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  13. Rje 02:14, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  14. Kevin 02:17, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  15. Carnildo 02:34, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  16. Antaeus Feldspar 02:46, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  17. Peter O. (Talk) 02:52, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  18. Ral315 03:21, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  19. Sc147 03:25, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  20. Ливай | ☺ 03:50, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  21. Antandrus 03:58, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  22. Adam Bishop 04:06, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  23. DJ Clayworth 05:22, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  24. Ben Brockert 05:57, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  25. Mindspillage (spill your mind?) 05:59, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  26. Korath (Talk) 06:15, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  27. Unnecessary. If an article does not fit the criteria for speedy deletion, it is not a speedy deletion candidate. --Slowking Man 07:47, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  28. Jeff Knaggs 09:01, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  29. Serves only to muddy the waters. RadicalSubversiv E 09:34, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  30. Rafał Pocztarski 10:47, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  31. Agree with Slowking Man. Wikimol 12:47, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  32. Pointless. David Johnson 13:29, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  33. Tuf-Kat 14:42, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  34. BrokenSegue 15:15, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  35. Jayjg | (Talk) 17:17, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  36. Jrdioko (Talk) 17:53, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  37. RickK 21:32, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  38. Thue | talk 21:55, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  39. hfool/Wazzup? 23:44, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC). Makes the whole thing a mess.
  40. BSveen 00:42, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
  41. Joshuapaquin 02:55, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
  42. gK ¿? 03:36, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  43. Frazzydee|✍ 04:09, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  44. Walt Pohl 06:59, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  45. jni 10:16, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  46. Ryan! | Talk 11:02, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
  47. Gentgeen 11:17, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  48. Xezbeth 11:37, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
  49. Bucephalus 12:00, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  50. Cyrius|✎
  51. Naive cynic 13:16, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  52. Tompagenet 13:21, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  53. Gamaliel 14:07, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  54. Mailer Diablo 16:52, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  55. Proteus (Talk) 17:39, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  56. Either it is a candidate for speedy deletion, or it's not. I don't see the point of pointing out what's not on a list of what is outside of "everything else". -- Francs2000 | Talk ] 20:21, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  57. Keith D. Tyler 21:00, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC) Pointless.
  58. Shane King 01:43, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC) All policies should always be open to review. Why block off the potential to change our minds as circumstances dictate?
  59. Dbiv 21:24, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  60. Deathphoenix 00:02, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC) Not necessary.
  61. Superfluous. Wyss 04:37, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  62. Mackensen (talk) 05:31, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  63. SWAdair | Talk 08:00, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  64. Unnecessary. And what's a 70% majority? 50%+1 is a majority, you don't need to point out that 70% is. 12:34, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  65. Warofdreams 13:06, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  66. Dante Alighieri | Talk 20:19, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)
  67. Plato 23:10, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  68. Hapsiainen 07:08, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)
  69. SocratesJedi 07:47, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  70. Viriditas | Talk 10:44, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  71. There is no need for that. Josh 11:55, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)
  72. Speedy delete criteria should be clear enough that there is no need to spell out what they exclude. GeorgeStepanek\ 01:10, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  73. ike9898 02:26, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC) That's not what many people meant with their disagree votes. Many of the disagreements are not absolute as this proposal would suggest.
  74. Strictly speaking unnecessary since CSD already specifies that "For any articles that are not speedy deletion candidates, use Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion." --JuntungWu 02:42, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  75. Mikkalai 03:09, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  76. Jiang 08:36, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  77. most of the proposals are good ideas for certain circumstances. Explicitly ruling them out is a bad idea imho -Thryduulf 10:59, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  78. Norg 15:17, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  79. AlexTiefling 18:09, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  80. Dejvid 20:38, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  81. ] 08:39, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  82. bernlin2000 ∞ 16:14, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC): My reason is here. As stated in the link a survey generates a concensus with Wikipedians. Just because a majority disagree doesn't mean the proposal should be rejected by Jimbo or any commitee that controls these things. That would make Misplaced Pages a pure democracy, which it is not.
  83. foobaz·✐ 19:44, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  84. Opinions may change soon. Paddu 21:30, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  85. RedWordSmith 22:10, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)
  86. Already implied. -- Grunt 🇪🇺 01:18, 2005 Jan 10 (UTC)
  87. jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:14, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  88. Unnecessary 23skidoo 06:10, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  89. Indrian 07:20, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)
  90. Markaci 10:00, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  91. Trilobite (Talk) 13:40, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  92. Martg76 16:22, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  93. Am I reading this right? A vote on having a policy about not having another policy? GET REAL PEOPLE --Cynical 20:26, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  94. CryptoDerk 22:23, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)
  95. JoaoRicardo 04:21, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  96. Starblind 20:58, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)
  97. kaal 01:22, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  98. bbx 02:11, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  99. ] 07:18, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) Unnecessary and redundant.
  100. BesigedB 17:04, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) Redundant
  101. you have 3 cows... if 2 of them are horses... Pedant 03:46, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC)
  102. Eric119 Er, what? By definition, candidates for speedy deletion are those specified. Anything unspecified is therefore not a candidate for speedy deletion without need to explicitly say so. 05:55, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  103. Proposal bad. Make brain hurt. Edeans 08:02, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  104. Aphaea 02:26, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  105. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 03:14, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  106. AlexR 14:35, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  107. No need to clutter up the rules when those don't fit are by definition then not CSD. RedWolf 21:02, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)
  108. Rich Farmbrough 23:18, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)