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Revision as of 06:19, 28 October 2019 editNaomiAmethyst (talk | contribs)Edit filter managers, Extended confirmed users, Rollbackers, Template editors6,269 edits →There needs to be a documentation link on User:ClueBot III: Reply.← Previous edit Latest revision as of 08:50, 30 December 2024 edit undoCiaPan (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers12,152 edits Reverted good faith edits by 2605:59C8:409B:4E10:A5C5:6CFD:BC29:C2E2 (talk): Test editTags: Twinkle Undo 
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== Question regarding ClueBot ==
== "redundant" sections ==


Can I please see the source? (A github url for ClueBot) ?
Please make the documentation clarify exactly why and when NG creates "duplicate" user talk page sections, such as adding a second - identical - "October 2019" section when an editor (or even NG itself) has already created one. Please provide a succinct summary AND policy links, not just one or the other. I checked the FAQ but it didn't help. I did a casual browse of the archives and sure enough: this has been asked before. Time to improve your docs! :) Thanks ] (]) 14:11, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Is it being run on someone's PC or is it being run in the cloud?
:See as to why the bot creates duplicate headings. Pinging in {{u|Cobi}} for your comment about improving the documentation and FAQs.-- ] (]) 17:18, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
I have more questions than I have answers coming to this page.


Thanks ] (]) 12:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
== There needs to be a documentation link on ] ==
:@] the bot runs on Wikimedia Toolforge and its source code is . <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 13:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

]. -- ] (]) 04:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
:It is. It's transcluded onto that page: ] -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 04:59, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

::There is no link to the documentation. -- ] (]) 05:08, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? The documentation is on ]. Why does there need to be a link to it given it is already on that page? -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 05:10, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
:::Furthermore, readership doesn't make a whole lot of sense on ] -- that userpage isn't really used for anything. That's why I removed the template you added. -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 05:17, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

::::The documentation is in need of much improvement. Can't do that without a link to that documentation page. Most templates and tools have links to view their documentation page.

::::I was curious as to why such an old archiving tool has documentation in such need of improvement. The readership partially explains it. Not having a link to the documentation page is a much bigger reason. Not having a link to the table of contents on the talk page explains it a little more. These are 3 ease-of-use problems. -- ] (]) 05:33, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

:::::{{ping|Timeshifter}} '''Readership is pointing at the wrong page.''' This is ], so the readership template is for ], not ].
:::::The "" links on sections in the userpage work fine and take you to the documentation page:
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:::::Clicking on any of the "" links takes you to:
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:::::-- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 05:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

::::::I am interested in the readership of all the pages that lead to the documentation page. It is very confusing getting to that documentation page. I am especially interested in the readership of that documentation page. I can't do that if the documentation talk page is redirected to here. -- ] (]) 05:57, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{outdent|:::::}} You can, of course, dig into viewership of any page with without having to have access to the talk page. -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 06:19, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

== How many people use Cluebot archiving versus Sigmabot archiving? ==

I am trying to figure out why people would not want the archiving tool (Cluebot) that also fixes links broken when threads are archived. -- ] (]) 05:26, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
:ClueBot III is used by about 8,500 talk pages. See . -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 05:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

== "age" parameter. Is it OK to do it like this: "720 (30 days)" ==

Hours is not intuitive for the age parameter. Days would be a lot better. But in the meantime can I put the number of days in parentheses? -- ] (]) 05:31, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
:It's not supported, and may break if things change, however, due to a quirk in the way that it looks for numbers, that might work. -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 05:41, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

== There needs to be separate documentation talk pages ==

I noticed after I tried to start a new section on the documentation talk page that you redirected it to here. I think that is a bad idea.

There is separate documentation for all the different Cluebot tools, and trying to combine them here on a busy talk page will cause nothing but confusion, and people bailing out on helping out.

I notice that you, Cobi, are a new admin with little experience outside these much-needed bot tools. Please take some of my advice about this stuff. I am in the top 3000 editors on Misplaced Pages. -- ] (]) 05:55, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
:Given that I've been an admin for more than 10 years, I find it odd that you find it necessary to condescend that I am a new admin; and while I may have little experience in the article space outside of anti-vandalism, that is irrelevant given the subject of your argument is the technical aspects of Misplaced Pages, which I am very familiar with. I redirected the talk page here as it is better to keep the discussion here where people watch this page. Most people who are willing to help watch this page, not the various dependencies of the ClueBot userpages. This is not a busy talk page, generally, as it gets about 5 sections per month or so. ] and ] are not a substitute for sound reasoning. -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 06:13, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

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Question regarding ClueBot

Can I please see the source? (A github url for ClueBot) ? Is it being run on someone's PC or is it being run in the cloud? I have more questions than I have answers coming to this page.

Thanks Vidyagamerfromaus (talk) 12:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

@Vidyagamerfromaus the bot runs on Wikimedia Toolforge and its source code is here. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 13:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)