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The personal attack intervention noticeboard (PAIN), created on ] ], was intended as a counterpart to ]. A person with complaints over ] could, after giving warnings, report a personal attacker on this page.
==={{User|LSLM}}===
*Reported twice:


Unfortunately, the noticeboard generated a considerable amount of controversy. While ] is usually a clear cut case, and administrator intervention (i.e. blocking) is usually uncontroversial, determining whether a comment is a personal attack, incivil, or just simply blunt and frank, can be quite ]. That led to a lot of arguments, flame wars, tit-for-tat disputes and ] on this page. Even after several warnings as well as changes to the header designed to instruct users on how to use this page, this noticeboard continued to deteriorate. Due to this deterioration as well as some particularly poor exchanges in December 2006, the entire page was ], with the result that the noticeboard was closed on {{#formatdate:10 January 2007}}.
*Warned twice:


The closure of this noticeboard does not mean that personal attacks are tolerated; they should never be. It simply means that complaints over personal attacks are moved to different, and more appropriate venues such as the ], ] or, as a last resort, ].
*Continues attacks:
] 00:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:*LSLM '''blocked for 24 hours''' for personal attacks. --''']]''' 18:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


===Procedure===
::*Is he working around the ban? If so, he is doing it with more personal attacks... . Veritas et Severitas was his signiture. The arguments in ] (3rd diff) seem in line with LSLM's previous comments...] 19:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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==={{User|NazireneMystic}}===
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This user left some inappropriate comments on the Talk:Ebionites page and . User logged in anonymously (63.215.29.103 and 209.244.30.107) and left his name. This user has been warned previously by an admin and received two blocks for similar behavior. Slow learner. Requesting a 72 hour block this time. ] 23:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

:Adding one more from subsequent edit on Talk:Ebionites page . ] 14:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

:I forgot to mention that this user has a second alias with an identical talk page which avoided the previous blocks ]. ] 15:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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==={{User|CrnaGora}}===
] has gotten somewhat frustrated in several disputes, and it has gotten beyond control (very sadly). In an edit summery, while reverting ], he wrote in rough ] ''I fuck your mother, Nikola! I understand Montenegrin better than you understand Serbian. Momisan I am on yours side till my deaths''. This user is normally '''very''' constructive, but this is not the first occasion that he reacted, as nuclear reactors do (when they overheat). On one occasion before he called a user a ''Serb whore'' - and I warned him indeed for trying to ease down his tempter several times. --] 15:51, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

:Blocked by user Duja for 24 h for personal attacks. ] 16:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

=== {{User|195.84.40.9}} ===

The user posted insulting words and keeps on posting clean up marks on articles in wikipedia without explaining why.

(cur) (last) 11:15, 6 December 2006 195.84.40.9 (Talk) (←Created page with 'HEY, stop removing the cleanup tag from Banate, Iloilo without saying why. <font size=1 color=white>you stupid fuck.</font>

Try to edit this page and see how his post will read. He tries to use certain conventions (using font size=1 color=white in the template of his post)to hide his uncivil attack to other users. This user discredits wikipedia. News is already spreading around the academe that wikipedia is no longer a credible source of information and articles are said to be opinions of authors whose creditbility is in question. I think contributors like '''User: 195.84.40.9''' add to this ill reputation that is being spread about wikipedia. If you change "font size=1 color=white" to "font size=1 color=red" of in the template od his post on my user page talk will read as follows:

(←Created page with 'HEY, stop removing the cleanup tag from Banate, Iloilo without saying why. <font size=1 color=red>you stupid fuck.</font>

Very clever and malicious attacks!

Check my user talk page and the thing he posted: ] {{unsigned|85.20.31.49}}

:'''Warned''' by ] at about 12:30 on Dec 7 --<font color="#06C">]</font> 14:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

==={{User|67.110.68.99}}===
Abusive edit summaries and talk comments . Warning only made things worse. He requests that we "do something about it". ] <sup>]</sup> 19:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Blocked for 24 hours.''' Will try to keep an eye on this one. ] 20:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
*: I also left a warning and will help monitor the behavior. --<font color="#06C">]</font> 20:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)



==={{User|Magencio}}===

I have already warned him twice for the following abuses: , calling me terrorist.

Now he's made a new personal attack saying (allegedly in the name of banned user Albinomite, of whom he admits to be a meatpuppet):
<blockquote>
The difference is a meatpuppet's got claws and can fight back. "Suck kind of people should not even exist," what kind of people do you mean exactly? Please elaborate. Also I have a message from Albinomite: ''Estamos hartos hasta los cojones de lambeculos comunistas como tú, si tanto repudias a España entonces ¿por que no te largas a Venezuela o Cuba? Ahí seguramente estarías feliz con el resto de los monos y comunistas''.''Legio Semper Fidelis''.--] 12:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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Translation of the Spanish language part: ''We are sick of arse-licking communists like you, if you repudiate spain so much then why don't you go away to Venezuela or Cuba? You would surely be happy there with the rest of monkeys and communists''.
The ''Legio Semper Fidelis'' part (Latin) seems a fascist/militarist slogan: "always faithful to the Legion", whatever that means. --] 13:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Final warning issued.''' Will try to keep an eye on this. ] 21:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)



==={{User|K42}}===
User did not like , so user left at my talk page. I used "npa3" to , and user . User then returned to my talk page and . &mdash;&nbsp;] ] &mdash; 23:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Final warning''' given to user; he seems to have a history of similar problems. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

'''User has continued personal attacks after final warning,''' ("scum", "rat"), and threatening to make . With that threat in mind, I should point out that user also edits from ] (see where reinstates vandalism). Editing as IP, of editor who reverted the earlier vandalism. That may or may not have been a personal attack, in any case it occurred before final warning, but this last round on Shell's user page was a direct ''response to'' the final warning. &mdash;&nbsp;] ] &mdash; 15:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Blocked for 24 hours.''' Will try to keep an eye on this. ] 22:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

'''User has now attacked blocking admin''' Luna Santin, with . &mdash;&nbsp;] ] &mdash; 06:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

:Wow.. All he had to do was wait a day, and he'd be able to edit again, but now? He's probably earned himself an extended block.--] 06:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

=== {{User|Factanista}} ===
] has just made uncivil comments about ]. In ], he said ''I consider that propaganda of yours''''disgusting'' and ''regardless of your GreaterSerbian''] for details]''propaganda''. These are heavy ]. --] 23:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
:User doesn't appear to have been warned about personal attacks and since this is the only attack presented, no further action was taken. Also, he's describing the actions of someone who he feels is labeling him, not directly attacking a person. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
::He has made all kinds of other personal attacks, including inviting Jesus to "f**k" my mother, among many others. Anyway, the user got banned as established that he's the sockpuppet of ], so I guess it's no longer important. --] 17:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)



==={{User|195.224.113.189}}===

] has sworn and made deorgatory remarks, eg. "resident dickead" and "TO BE HONEST I COULDN'T GIVE A TOSS WHAT YOKELS LIKE YOU WANT TO TELL YOURSELVES." at ]. Warning posted to their Talk page but behaviour has continued. ] 13:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Left a note.''' Will try to keep an eye on this one. Let me know if I miss anything. ] 05:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)








==={{User|Esteqlal}}===
New user. Single purpose disruptor. Made personal attacks in my talk page, I warned him but he keeps blanking his talk page and bogus warning me back. Incivil edit summaries. Causing disruption through his personal attacks to me. ] 20:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Warned.''' Sockpuppetry may be afoot. ] 22:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

==={{User|Wbroun}}===
Also:
* {{user|207.195.254.25}}
* {{user|65.78.116.33}}
* {{206.225.96.5}}

New user. Multiple instances of personal attacks. Warned three times on user talk. Warned and given advice by me and other admins in article talk pages to avoid PAs and engage with civility.

;Diffs:
* First warning:
* Second:
* Third"

After being warned three times, he continues: .

As I have been involved in editing that article as a third-party editor (I am not associated with the subject of the article in any way or manner), and given the animosity demonstrated by this user, it may be better that another admin takes the necessary action to curtail the disruption caused. ] <small>]</small> 03:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

This user continues:
* Fourth diff

I would appreciate it if someone takes a look. ] <small>]</small> 04:43, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Could someone take a look at this? ] <small>]</small> 20:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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This page is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference.
Either the page is no longer relevant or consensus on its purpose has become unclear. To revive discussion, seek broader input via a forum such as the village pump.
This process has been discontinued per this discussion.

The personal attack intervention noticeboard (PAIN), created on 7 October 2005, was intended as a counterpart to the request for intervention against vandalism page. A person with complaints over personal attacks could, after giving warnings, report a personal attacker on this page.

Unfortunately, the noticeboard generated a considerable amount of controversy. While vandalism is usually a clear cut case, and administrator intervention (i.e. blocking) is usually uncontroversial, determining whether a comment is a personal attack, incivil, or just simply blunt and frank, can be quite subjective. That led to a lot of arguments, flame wars, tit-for-tat disputes and wikilawyering on this page. Even after several warnings as well as changes to the header designed to instruct users on how to use this page, this noticeboard continued to deteriorate. Due to this deterioration as well as some particularly poor exchanges in December 2006, the entire page was nominated for deletion, with the result that the noticeboard was closed on 10 January 2007.

The closure of this noticeboard does not mean that personal attacks are tolerated; they should never be. It simply means that complaints over personal attacks are moved to different, and more appropriate venues such as the administrators' noticeboard, dispute resolution or, as a last resort, arbitration.

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