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"According to the LA Times, the news station promotes ] and receives large sums of donations from the organization each year. NTDTV has aired some of the most ridiculous events hosted by their supporters, especially when ] claimed that he could fly into the sky near his home in Chicago, Illinois. However, he did not succeed and blaimed the failure on the poor weather. (], Mar.19,2004)"
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I added "according to" a few days ago when I first saw this because I was rather incredulous. I also could not find this in the LA Times when I searched. I have several reasons for disbelieving the accuracy of this citation.

: First, NTDTV may be run largely by practitioners, but Falun Gong and NTDTV are institutionally separate. Funding sources I know of for NTDTV are ads and its yearly gala. If any Falun Gong association really gave NTDTV money, I find it difficult to believe there was not a business reason for it, as practitioners view Epoch group media as separate (financially and organizationally) from Falun Gong, and would know to treat them as such. This citation does not address any such reasoning, or explain alternate reasoning.
{{yo|Isi96}} and {{yo|DanMan3395}} please discuss the issues in dispute here, if edit warring resumes whent the current protection expires, blocks are the likely response. ] ] 00:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
: Second, Li Hongzhi lives in New York, not Chicago.

: Third, according to the principles Li teaches, supernormal abilities are not to be displayed in public. In teaching Falun Dafa, I know of no exceptions made for his own except for a few conventions and fairs and such where he and some practitioners had a booth for qigong healing in order to promote Falun Dafa. Displaying a supernormal ability like this one makes no sense.
:I placed a warning template on their talk page, but they didn't respond. ] (]) 00:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
::https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view - the content removed violates the neutral point of view policy. Misplaced Pages is not a venue for personal opinion based bias. The content is opinion based and the citation sources are themselves opinion based. There is no value in putting personal political perspectives on here as it will just lead to edit warring on any subject that has any political underpinning at all. If you want to claim that Tim Pool is a right wing activist you need to cite a quote from him to that affect. Anything else is just opinion and/or conjecture. ] (]) 18:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Correction - "That NTD News is a right wing activism outlet". Confused 2 vandalism removals with each other. ] (]) 22:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
:::As previously mentioned, see ], ] and ]. ] (]) 00:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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@Isi96: and @DanMan3395: please discuss the issues in dispute here, if edit warring resumes whent the current protection expires, blocks are the likely response. Just Step Sideways 00:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I placed a warning template on their talk page, but they didn't respond. Isi96 (talk) 00:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view - the content removed violates the neutral point of view policy. Misplaced Pages is not a venue for personal opinion based bias. The content is opinion based and the citation sources are themselves opinion based. There is no value in putting personal political perspectives on here as it will just lead to edit warring on any subject that has any political underpinning at all. If you want to claim that Tim Pool is a right wing activist you need to cite a quote from him to that affect. Anything else is just opinion and/or conjecture. DanMan3395 (talk) 18:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Correction - "That NTD News is a right wing activism outlet". Confused 2 vandalism removals with each other. DanMan3395 (talk) 22:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
As previously mentioned, see WP:RS, WP:V and WP:YESPOV. Isi96 (talk) 00:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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