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	|On June 2, ''']''' was updated with a fact from the article ''''']''''', which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on ].
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			'''Monthly Challenge''':
			;Article News
	Speaking of gay, guess who's back? --] 13:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
			* Three articles were promoted to ] status this month: ] (]), ] (]) and ] (]). Congratulations to ] and ] (twice!) respectively for all their hard work!
	==Fair use rationale for ]==
			* Three new articles appeared on the ] as ] items: ] (]), ] (]) and ] (]), started by ], ] and ], respectively.
			* ] deserves kudos for his current drive to provide quality LGBT photos from the ] area. One of the more recent photos is posted on ], and you can check out the gallery on ].
			;Project News
	Thanks for uploading ''']'''. The image description page specifies that the image is being used under ] but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Misplaced Pages articles constitutes fair use.
			* There is now the beginning of a ] to possibly be included in the ]. Your suggestions are welcome; there may be many core LGBT topics still missing.
			* We have a ] whose articles need to be checked for ]. This effort is necessary and urgent, to comply with Misplaced Pages's ]. Please take a few moments to source one article; if you've got time, do another.
			* ] identified all the articles that were in subcategories of ] but not yet tagged with ], about 1,400 articles. These have been completed, though ] will make periodic runs through the cats to find any new entries. Thanks Satyr!
			* The number of articles within our project's spectrum (6,667 currently) should now be relatively stable and only grow with article creation. However, if you find a category that should be included, please let ] know so it can be included in the bots runs.
			* Work is underway to improve the ]. Please add any good quality (free) photos you come across on LGBT articles to the gallery ]. Also if anyone would like to volunteer to help in maintaining the portal, please make yourselves known on the Portal's ].
			* If you see any ] or any other ] related to LGBT topics, please remember to add them to the ]. Thanks!
			; Member News
	Please go to ] and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
			* Our membership continues to expand. 22 new users have joined the WikiProject: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]. Please make them feel welcome!
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			] 05:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
			==Any Proof that Slovenia is a developed Country?==
			]] 20:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
			==]==
	If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "]" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on ]. If you have any questions please ask them at the ]. Thank you.
			You may want to weigh in at ], since you were involved in a previous discussion of this article. - ] | ] 05:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
			== Thanks! ==
	This is an automated notice by ]. For assistance on the image use policy, see ]. 03:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
			Quick note to thank you for doing a lot of the updates on the ] page. I started to bring it up to date, but had to leave the article unfinished, and when I returned, you had completed much of it - much appreciated! ] 15:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
	== ] references ==
			== ] ==
	It would be nice if English translations for Romanian news article titles could be provided. Regards. ] 03:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
			Hello there.<br><br>Why do I get the feeling that everything I say on ] is being ignored? Oh right -- because everything I say on there IS being ignored!<br><br>I am not lying through my teeth when I talk about working on the article offline -- you would have seen this if you had checked the history to see why the article had grown so long.<br><br>You're probably going to say "no", but could you possibly delete the articles you created, because it will cause HUGE problems tomorrow when I implement the changes I've been working on for the past month (trust me -- I didn't just split the articles and create a template and category like you did; I made several big changes and 1 HUGE one).<br><br>I've brought the article this far with my strange editing habits (which I'll explain if you'd like to understand them), I need you to trust me for just 1 more day. You may send me an email if you wish. ] (]) 09:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
	:Thanks! Tomorrow, I'l probably go and covert them to ]. ] 04:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
			Thank you so very much!
	Okay, I converted everything except the Pravda and Nadiafax links, because they were inaccessible. The ''Journalul'' title also lacks a translation (I think it's because it was added after I made the above comment), and I commented out the last ref because it seemed to have an improper url or something. It linked to the program for 2006. ] 21:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
			Be sure to check the article(s) about 15 or 16 hours from now for a pleasant surprise...
	== GayFest discussion ==
			] (]) 17:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
	Do you have any idea on who these guys, Anonimu and Biruitorul are? They look very much like what I read in the news about "Noua Dreapta". Disturbing... ] 18:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
			You forgot <nowiki>]</nowiki>...
	== Vanadals ==
			] (]) 17:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
	This has been around for a couple of months, in the article on Romania:
			Thanks! Could you possibly delete ] which I accidentally created with a misspelled title?
	19:57, 10 April 2006 Mashu (History)
	By war's end Austria-Hungary and the Russian Empire had collapsed, allowing Bessarabia and Bukovina to unite with the Kingdom of Romania in 1918. Transylvania was annexed to Romania by force in the Treaty of Trianon in 1920.
			I'll also be putting a question on ] &mdash; perhaps you might be able to help me?
	Can you revert to:
			Thank you for your patience.
	19:55, 10 April 2006 RadioKirk (...)
	By war's end Austria-Hungary and the Russian Empire had collapsed, allowing Bessarabia, Bukovina and Transylvania to unite with the Kingdom of Romania in 1918. Union of Transylvania with Romania was ratified in the Treaty of Trianon in 1920.
			] (]) 10:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
	==]==
			==Arbitrare==
	Romanian Metrocat was blocked without any ArbCom or CheckUser to establish a link to a vandal. Help her! --] 17:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
			Salut Ronline, am o întrebare pentru tine. Sînt implicat într-o arbitrare legată de articolul Transnistria . Unul dintre arbitrii care au acceptat cazul este Kirill Lokshin, rus de origine. Mă întreb dacă nu ar putea avea un partizanat la această arbitrare. Îl cunoşti? Există posibilitatea de a recuza un arbitru, iar dacă da, crezi aşa ceva oportun în cazul de faţă? Şi despre ceilalţi arbitri te rog spune-mi dacă-i cunoşti şi dacă ţi se par serioşi.--] 20:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
			:Mulţumesc pentru răspuns. Observaţie: "arbitrar" în loc de arbitru, "involvat" în loc de implicat arată de parcă n-ai stăpîni chiar bine limba română. Nu eşti născut în România?--] 22:05, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
			Ronline, a question to you:
	==Unblocking request==
	Salut! Vreau numa sa iti spun ca vreau sa imi fie deprotectat ] cat mai repede, si tu iesti cel mai in masura sa ma ajuti. Iti multumesc mult! Toate cele bune, ''']''' 6 Iunie 2006
			Did Marius express doubt in ]'s credibility, based on his ethnicity ("''rus de origine''") and asked, whether his status as an arbiter can be challenged ("''a recuza un arbitru''"), because he cannot allow opposition into his arbitration ("''nu ar putea avea un partizanat la această arbitrare''") in his first post above (please correct me if I mistranslated something)? If true, then this is a remarkable display of ethnicity-based prejudice, IMHO, because Kirill didn't even voice his opinion yet. I would like to add this as evidence of disruptive behavior to the arbitration, in such a case. If not, my sincere apologies will go to both of you. --] 00:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
	==PNG==
			: Hm, so it's "...''because he may have a biased opinion''". A slight mistranslation on my part it is, then. While it's not nice to assume such things based only on someone's name, it probably doesn't qualify as "disruptive behavior". I think I'll let this slip, then. After all, considering that Marius' opposition has been mostly Russian-speaking, I find his request understandable, but not justifiable. Thank you for your time and effort. If you'll need some help in translating something in the en-ru-de area, please let me know. --] 11:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
	In ciuda tuturor antipatiilor personale, o regula de bun simt o reprezinta sustinerea afirmatiilor cu argumente. Te-as ruga sa consolidezi opinia potrivit careia PNG se situeaza doctrinar la extrema dreapta cu ceva mai mult decat un extras dintr-un cotidian central. Daca sustii existenta unui partid neo-fascist in Romania, trebuie sa si demonstrezi. Pana la proba contrarie, un partid politic este etichetat conform propriilor declaratii doctrinare. Si ca o mica observatie politologica... caracterul actiunilor recente ale presedintelui PNG se situeaza pe pozitii antitetice cu notiunea de dreapta moderna.--] 08:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
	== ARCHIVE ==		==Buses WikiProject==
			I notice that you have edited lists of bus routes recently. You might be interested in helping with the new ], especially the proposed ]. We are also working out when a bus route should have its own article and other issues. --] 15:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
			== Help logging on ==
	Please ohh please, for the love of god. Being a bit dramatic, but with '''OVER''' 100 discussions on your talk page, I suggest that you archive previous discussions that are not ongoing. Especially stuff from 2004 and 2005. Just trying to make your talk page more user friendly. ] 01:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
	:You are quite welcome. Most people plan to do stuff, but unless someone comes along with a stick and pokes them, they don't do it. :) ] 08:23, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
			Hello, you have been randomly selected from the list of admins for a request for assistance. Specifically, this assistance is that I am for some reason unable to log on. When attempting to log onto my account, the login page informs me that I input the wrong password, and clicking on the new password button results in the page telling me no email is on record, though I was under the impression that I had given one. I have not changed my password recently so I don't know what could be going wrong. The user account is ]. If you can help me with this, I would appreciate it, but I do recognize that due to security issues there may be nothing that can be done. In that case, I am quite willing to start a new account. --] 01:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
	== ] ==
			==WP: not a soapbox==
	Please, if you're going to be uploading my pictures off of flickr, use the original size ones.
			Am observat noua ta menţiune pe pagina personală, de susţinător al independenţei Transnistriei. În acest context doresc să-ţi reamintesc ceea ce ţi-am scris în 5 Noiembrie 2006 00:55: '''"Nu te preocupa de imaginea României, ţi-am scris că nu-ţi cer să acţionezi ca român ci ca administrator la Misplaced Pages"'''. Cererea mea se bizuie pe politica "wikipedia is not a soapbox". În ceea ce mă priveşte, te asigur că nu îmbunătăţirea imaginii României în lume este ceea ce mă determină să contribui la Misplaced Pages, deşi s-a insinuat despre mine că aş fi în slujba serviciului secret român . Urmăreşte în continuare ] şi ghidează-te strict de politicile Wikipediei, nu de opţiunile politice. Ceea ce m-a făcut să te contactez este propria ta declaraţie că eşti împotriva cenzurii, nădăjduiesc să fie sinceră această afirmaţie şi să accepţi necenzurarea informaţiilor contrare convingerilor tale politice. Dacă faci vreo afirmaţie despre mine, totdeauna să ai diffuri care să-ţi susţină afirmaţiile (cum spuneam în 21 octombrie 09:42: ''"Încearcă să nu te bizui pe zvonuri ci pe fapte"'').--] 14:36, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
			:Eu apreciez puncte de vedere şi criticile de bună credinţă de la alte persoane. Dacă cumva ai impresia că am scris ceva la Misplaced Pages care se poate numi dezinformare, te rog anunţă-mă, respectînd regula care am pomenit-o mai sus: "să ai diffuri care să-ţi susţină afirmaţiile" (în mod excepţional, fiind implicat în arbitrare, aş prefera să primesc prin e-mail exemple despre eventualele mele greşeli). În rest, cred că n-ai citit cu atenţie mesajul meu: eu NU intervin la articolele de pe Misplaced Pages pentru a îmbunătăţi imaginea României. Cred că drepturile omului în general, ale moldovenilor în special, sînt încălcate în Transnistria iar oamenilor de acolo trebuie să li se apere drepturile independent de părerea guvernului român (care, de fapt, nu prea se amestecă, contrar cu ceea ce cred unii opozanţi ai mei din Misplaced Pages). Ca să fac o paralelă, ungurii din Ardeal pot cere respectarea anumitor drepturi independent de poziţia guvernului Ungariei.--] 11:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
			==LGBT WikiProject newsletter==
	Also, there is if you wanted to upload it.
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			'''Monthly Challenge''': Stand for '']'' or support some candidates after May 5...
			;Article News
	- ] 08:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
			* ] is a ].
			;Project News
			* A taskforce dealing with LGBT publications has been proposed. If you are interested in getting involved, consider signing up at the projects' page.
			* Our ] list is looking good. It's still a bit slim on LGBT history articles, non-American LGBT media, and important LGBT biographies. Do you have suggestions?
			* ] has done an amazing job taking photographs of LGBT celebrities. Thanks David! People interested in collaborating with him and setting up a photography taskforce should contact him or drop a note at the project's ].
			* The ] still needs a bit of love and attention :-). Again, any good quality (free) photos you come across on LGBT articles can be added to the gallery ]. Volunteers to help out with the Portal are extremely welcome- make yourselves known on the Portal's ]. Updates to the current news items are helpful.
			;Deputy coordinator elections
	:Yeah i'm loving Romania, i've been here since January. My photos are for the taking, so grab them if you have more photos you would like to upload. I have some HDR images of other landmarks in Bucharest i would like to put together, but i don't have a computer so i can't do it till i'm back in Australia. I'm from a small town called ], did you spend most of your time in Australia in Sydney?
			*WikiProject LGBT studies is looking for new Deputy Coordinators to help out with various essential tasks in organising the project. To nominate yourself or contribute to the discussion, please go to: ]. The deadline for nominations is May 5 and the elections will last a week after that.
			*Candidates so far are: ], ] and ].
			*The elections will be pretty simple- everyone just endorses their favourite candidate(s). The three with the most votes at the end of the week are the new deputy coordinators, who will assist ] in keeping the project running.
			;Member News
	:-] 13:23, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
			* Our membership continues to expand. 22 new users have joined the WikiProject (bringing our total membership to 182): ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]. Also ] who rejoins us having previously been a member as ]. Please make them feel welcome!
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			This month's project newsletter (hand delivered as ] and ] are away). Best wishes, <span style="font-family: Verdana">]]</span> 03:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
	::Ah yes i know of ]. I'm here until next thursday. Are you uploading the photos or should i re-upload them?
			== The Great Sesotho Debacle of 2007 ==
	::-] 13:45, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
			Hi.
	== Anittas ==
			I thought of undoing your moves but I felt that it might not be a great idea after all. However, it is my view that vandalism (let's not lie to ourselves -- that's EXACTLY what "Dawntreader"'s edits were) should be '''reverted''', not accepted and worked around.
	Do you think there is something I (we) could do for him? ] 12:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
			The same reason why I edited the articles offline is also the reason why I didn't just revert him (and I have rather little patience for persons with certain behaviours).
	:FWIW, I've more or less volunteered to correspond with him and to pass through (by one means or another) substantive remarks, but I've made it clear that I will not pass through insults, etc. If we want to do something formally, the right thing would probably be to start an RFC in which we could discuss that his conduct, while still not perfect, seemed to be generally better the last few months, etc. I don't think Misplaced Pages does itself any favors when someone who has mostly reformed is punished for previous conduct. And I think it is important that none of this was about intellectual dishonesty. - ] | ] 07:12, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
			The argument is not really over, and the consensus is false. This issue is rather complex. See the recent discussion on ] for a related and ongoing debate and an example of the true nature of this "consensus" (Mark has taken a short week break, thus the cliffhanger).
	== NorbertArthur ==
			What do you think is the optimal action for now? The vandal is not dead quite yet (check the histories and follow the 3 anonymous vandals).
	NorbertArthur is the block you put on him. - ] | ] 07:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
			] ] 08:58, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
	== Move ] to ] ==
			Well, I do think it's vandalism since:
	Ronline,
			#The articles looked just fine
			#am anonymous user shows up
			#he makes abusive statements
			#then he makes extensive changes, within comments, text, and links, obviously not caring about the adverse effects
			#then, after I alert to 3RR in an edit summary, he decides to report me for violating it (at this stage I was ignoring his actions, so I wasn't reverting)
			This sounds like vandalism and trolling.
	we have finished the merger of ], ] and ]. The main text is now found at ] and we've decided to move it to ]. That page is, however, used as a disambiguation page and I cannot simply move the article to that location, and received a message stating that only administrator can perform the operation. Could you please move the page. ] 15:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
			Wait before you answer while I explain the prefix situation...
	http://mo.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrator
			The "Se" in "Sesotho" does not mean "language." It is a noun class marker which is an inalienable part of the morphology of the word. That's simply the way the word looks.
	== Sitenotice on ro: ==
			For example, "education" is derived from "educate" through a change in morphology. The change implies that the word is a noun, but it is not valid to simply use the root without the suffix.
	Hello. Bogdangiusca tells me you're an admin on ro. The sitenotice about wikimania (]) needs to be translated and put up on all projects. Can you please put it up on ]? Thanks. ] | ] 11:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
			"-sotho" is a root, which is made meaningful with class markers (], ], ], etc).
	== 3 revert rule ==
			The "Se-" marker in this case does indicate language, but the class has many other types of nouns.
	Hello Ronline, would you be so kind to enforce, or ask some other admin to enforce the 3RR rule on the page ]? There are two trolls and one anon IP (maybe a sock) that reverted text today several times (4-5 times each, I presume). ] 18:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
			*seponesa the police force
	: It appears to be over. As concerns your reply, I found it a bit funny, because in a 3RR incident, there's always two parties (at least). One cannot infringe 3RR by himself. :) ] 13:10, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
			*sefofu blind person
			*sefate tree
			*seanamarena traditional blanket
			*sekgathe verbal tense
			etc.
			So yes, it is a tad complicated...
	== technical question ==
			] ] 11:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
	Who is authorized to perform sockpuppet checks? Is there an automated service for doing it? ] 13:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
			==Thank you==
	:See ]. --] 13:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
			I just need to thank you for the vote and comment ]. I feel honored. ] 22:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
			==Vandalism?==
	== Standardized look for geographical infoboxes ==
			What exactly is my vandalism?--] 12:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
	Hi - I created a proposed guideline for geographical infoboxes I expect you might be interested in, please see ]. -- ] <small>(])</small> 00:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
			:For example and . Ronline, why aren't you blocking this guy? If he's not Bonnie, then he's his twin brother, and he has provided plenty of reason. He has also called me an irredentist and even in an edit summary . ]] 12:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
			Removing words that are not backed-up with sources it's not vandalism. My source is CONSTITUTION. Who cares if there was for months before there. That's not an argument. Have you solid sources to back-up your version? I need a link from constitution.--] 12:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
	=="ethnically East European"==
	Yeah, but not all East Europeans are Slavic. You know that. You're a Romanian I assume. You must hate being called Slavic, but you are certainly still proud to be "East European" nonetheless. ] 06:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
			:I suggest you to register at the Misplaced Pages and read the discussions so that you completely understand the topics you would like to be involved in. Everybody is interested in reading what your opinion is, try not to behave as an outsider. --] 13:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
	==Cleanup for ]==
	Hi, you added a "Cleanup" tag to this article on June 11 without indicating what is wrong with it. We need more info on that, thanks. ] 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
			==]==
	== Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (geographic names) ==
			Actually I don't know the exact regulation regarding the use of minority languages in Hungary. (Don't know if there is a 20% rule like in Romania.) There are minority self governing bodies with elected representatives on settlement levels, also on county and national levels - eg. there is a country level Romanian Minority Self Government with elected leaders. <br />
			And I don't mind at all if the Romanian name appears in the infobox. If there is somebody reverting you I will try to convince him/her. Are there more ethnic Romanian settlements in Hungary?
			--] 13:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
			Update: There are three settlements in Hungary with more than 20% Romanian inhabitants. The third one is ], I changed this article too. --] 16:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
	sal.
			In Hungary there is no such clear-cut limit like the 20 % in Romania. It is mainly the business of te local municipalities whether they use minority names or not, according to the wishes of the minority self governing bodies. So nobody should worry about that Romanians in Pusztaottlaka constitute only 17 % not 20 % - the Romanian name is used by the Central Statistic Office also. ] 19:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
	am revenit pe wikipedia, si primul lucru pe care lam facut a fost sa incerc sa solutzionez problema ] topicul ''Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (geographic names)'' din paginile despre ]. am sters numele magyare ale diviziunilor administrative ale regatului magyar trecute ca nume alternative pt numele diviziunilor administrative ale Romaniei in paragraful de inceput, in conformitate cu conventziile stabilite de wikipedia. ]
			==Answer==
	anul trecut am incercat sa solutzionez aceeasi problema dar din cauza ca nu am comunicat bine cu ceilaltzi editori romani, lucrurile au capatat un aspect superficial de "reglementat" (ma refer la ])
			I saw the discussion of Romanian and Hungarian users about names of the places in Romania and the conclusions of that discussion are wrong even for places in Romania not to mention attempt for imposing this solution to places in other countries. The main question here is whether reason for such usage of names is scientific or political. Misplaced Pages is not a place for promotion of political ideas no matter if such idea in this case is irredentism or minority rights. Purpose of Misplaced Pages is a scientific one and from scientific point of view, the reader of Misplaced Pages indeed should have information about varios names of such places, but you people (Hungarian and Romanian users from Talk:Odorheiu Secuiesc) turned the question of where such names should be written into the pure political question and that is not good direction into which Misplaced Pages should develop, not to mention that your "compromise" (or what ever) is against Misplaced Pages naming conventions. In another words, since Misplaced Pages is a scientific encyclopaedia written in English language, names used here are those that are used in English. I can give you concrete examples of the whole problem: let just pick any random article, for example ]. So, it is village in Serbia with Hungarian majority and Hungarian name for the village is there if somebody (from scientific point of view) would like to know this name. Now the question is whether we should writte there bolded "'''Bogojevo''' or '''Gombos'''" instead just bolded "'''Bogojevo'''". Usage of more than one bolded name here is justified if such names are used in English, but it is not case here. For geographical purposes, English language use only official names used in these countries (i.e. if alternative English (but not non-English) names for such places do not exist). In the case of Bogojevo, it is very well illustrated here: http://www.fallingrain.com/world/YI/2/Bogojevo.html You can see that only official name that is commonly used in English is listed here in the beginning, while all other non-official, non-English names are listed below, but not in the same place where official name is listed. Also, if you try google search, you will see that Hungarian name Gombos is indeed not widely used in English and that it could mainly be found in Hungarian-language websites: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=bogojevo+gombos&btnG=Search Furthermore, the first sentences of the articles should be brief and should not contain too much data of low importance that would only confuse readers. In another words, I do not see scientific reasons (if there is any please say which one that might be) for usage of non-English non-official names bolded in the first sentence. Also, Misplaced Pages is not obligated to follow any official policy of any state including policy of usage of minority languages - such state policies are made with only purpose to help to members of such minority to preserve their language and culture within the country, but that still does not mean that English language use names in their languages for geographical purposes and that such names should be written in Misplaced Pages in the first sentences or in the infoboxes (unless you want to turn a scientific question into political one, which is, as I said, not appropriate on this non-political web site). For example, I see a scientific justification that we writte Hungarian names in the infoboxes of ] or of ] because such names are used by majority of local inhabitants, and therefore it is likely that readers of English Misplaced Pages would saw such names in other web-sites, books, etc, so this information indeed could be useful for them, but I do not see a point of writting Romanian or Hungarian name in the infobox of ] because such names could not be of any use to Eglish readers (of course if somebody still want to know such names, there is a "Name" section in the article where he can found them, and that is quite enough from the scientific point of view). Regarding usage of bolded Serbian names in the first sentences of Sviniţa, Pojejena and Socol, that is equally wrong as this what I previously spoke about, but since I do not have time to work any more on the articles about Sviniţa, Pojejena and Socol it is your chooice what you will do with these articles, but I want to ensure high quality of the articles about places in Serbia and therefore usage of Misplaced Pages for political naming purposes (instead for scientific ones) cannot be acceptable. ] 09:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
	nu shtiu daca ai fost in cunostintza de cauza cu votul privind numele alternativ al judetzului Harghita.
			:And just one more illustration how ridiculous whole question is: if we start to writte non-English names bolded in the first sentences of the articles, we would also have to use Serbian Cyrillic for such purposes and therefore, we would not have "'''Bogojevo''' or '''Gombos'''", but we would in fact have "'''Богојево''' or '''Bogojevo''' or '''Gombos'''" and that would be nothing but stupidity. This also illustrate how wrong usage of bolded Serbian names for Sviniţa, Pojejena and Socol really is when you do not use Serbian Cyrillic (and Cyrillic is a primary Serbian script). ] 10:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
			::Well, as for official names of the places, in Serbia there are no other official names of the places than Serbian ones. Only official use of minority or regional languages is regulated by law, but there is no official regulation about official names of the places. I understand 20% population limit used in Romania (and for example also in Macedonia), but such limit does not exist in Serbia: for example, in ], besides Serbian, also Hungarian, Slovak and Rusyn are in official use, no matter that these ethnic groups are not larger than 5% population. Also, the fact that these languages are in official use do not obligate local authorities to use multilingual road signs, as you can see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Welcome_to_Novi_Sad.JPG (Table in the entrance in Novi Sad is written only in Serbian Cyrillic and Serbian Latin, while some other road signs are written only in Cyrillic). Therefore, usage of official languges of Vojvodina is not same as usage of official names - all official publications of Serbian and Vojvodinian government (published in Serbian language), use only Serbian names of the places, while Hungarian, Romanian or Slovak names are used only in publications published in these languages, i.e. non-Serbian names are used as any other word from non-Serbian languages (and only as part of official usage of such languages). Basically, this mean that Hungarian, Romanian or Slovak names are in use only in the Hungarian, Romanian or Slovak texts, but not in general official use (In opposite case, Serbian texts would be also obligated to contain such non-Serbian names, but they do not have such obligation). Regarding your motivation for "spirit of tolerance and pluralism and a greater use of minority languages" that is still an example of political motive. No matter if political motives are with good or bad faith, that is still something very different from the basic purpose of this web site and that purpose is to collect and present knowledge. Therefore, if you want to present knowledge about Romanian names for places in Vojvodina and Serbia, I suggest that you writte new article similar to these two: ] and ]. ] 14:56, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
			:::And by the way, why you changed this: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=L%C3%B3r%C3%A9v&diff=130533042&oldid=130522399 Aesthetically, sign "-" is much better than "/", not to mention that I really hate "/" sign used in such cases. Although, we speak here about one same name written in two scripts, imagine that this road sign say "Нови Сад/Novi Sad": http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Welcome_to_Novi_Sad.JPG No, that would be just too confusing...] 15:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
			Hi Ronline, I would like to thank you for adding Hungarian names to the leads of many Slovak articles. Good work. As to your other idea, please find my response under your comment on my talk page. Cheers. ] 15:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
	te informez (si voi informa si altzi editori romani) despre aceasta intentzie a mea de a reglementa articolele referitoare la Romania in acord cu conventziile enciclopediilor renumite.
			:In any country where official bilingual names of the places are used, state government is obligated to use equally all official names in official publications no matter in which language such publications are published. i.e. in the case if these minority place names are official, government in Belgrade would be obligated to use such names in its publications, but it never use such names, which means that state does not recognize these names as official. As I said, we have here two very different things: "official usage of languages" and "official usage of place names" - these terms are very different and if state recognize "official usage of the language" that does not mean that it also recognize "official usage of place names" (The basic problem is that you mixing these two terms). Regarding Novi Sad, you did not understand at all what I wrote to you about it: Novi Sad IS the place where minority languages are official (no matter if minorities comprise 1% or 6% or 20% or 40% of population - that is completelly irrelevant for official language usage in Vojvodina). And what I said is that if minority languages are recognized as official in this municipality that DOES NOT obligate local authorities to have multilingual road signs because minoririty names of the places are not considered official in Serbia. And I am really not sure do some localities in Vojvodina have bilingual road signs (perhaps northern municipalities with Hungarian majority have them, but I am not sure about this anyway). Regarding "/" sign, for me, it is very ugly that it stand between two names with no empty space between "/" and the names (And it is not ugly but it is hard to read and too confusing for readers). ] 09:02, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
	de forma "riul Mures are nume alternativ Maros deoarece curge si prin Ungaria, judetzul Mures nu are nume alternativ Maros pt ca nu este impartzit de Romania cu Ungaria"
			===My 2c===
	probabil ai observat ca articolele privitoare la magyari si secui editate de editori care au un POV (sau sunt dezinformati) evidentziaza Transylvania ca pe un fel de entitate administrativa, bagand laolalta si banatu si crisana si maramuresu in ea. pt acesti editori tot ce a fost odata sub administratzia magyara se afla acum in Regiunea Transilvania, nu in judetzele sau regiunile administrative ale Romaniei. tot ce a fost odata sub administratzia magyara trebuie musai sa aiba nume alternativ magyar. kit ca doar 5% de magyari locuiesc in judetzul Hunedoara de exemplu. am incercat sa clarific ce inseamna ] pt a putea defini o conventzie care sa evite asemenea imensitate (articolele despre jumatate din teritoriul romaniei sa aiba nume alternative magyare si sa fie asociate cu o Regiune Transilvania)
			I'm not going to interfere with your friendly exchange <tt>>;)</tt>, just to throw in an info:
	io unu consider ca motivul din spatele acestor editari ale articolelor despre teritorii care au fost sub administratzie magyara in trecut, si anume incercarea de a induce cititorului wikipediei ideea ca exista o entitate administrativa Transylvania care sar afla sub administratzia Romaniei cumva impotriva naturii (consider ca editorii respectivi sunt afectatzi de propaganda revizionista magyara).
			Article 11:
	ok, in concluzie, cred ca va trebui in cele din urma sa ma adrese Comitetului de Arbitrii in solutzionarea acestor "nume alternative magyare pt tot ce a fost odata sub administrarea Ungariei" si "Regiunea Transilvania" ] 07:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
			<blockquote>§2. The unit of local self-government is obliged to enter the language and alphabet of a national minority in official use always if the percentage of that national minority in the total population on their territory reaches 15% according to the latest census.</blockquote>
			<blockquote>...On the territories from paragraph 2, names of public authorities, names of units of local self-government, of settlements, squares and streets and other toponyms shall also be displayed in the language of the respective national minority according to respective orthography and grammar rules and tradition. </blockquote>
	:: Ronline, cred că ar fi bine să te implici şi tu în discuţia pe care a deschis-o Criztu, la ]. Cred că ştii care e părerea mea despre această problemă (mi-am exprimat-o la ]), dacă e cazul pot să mi-o exprim şi la Mediation Cabal, dar cred că tu poţi să susţii poziţia ta mai eficient. ] 08:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
			]<span style="font-size:70%;">]</span> 08:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	==Gibraltar==
			:Thanks for that Duja! So, that means that in localities where minorities make up more than 15% of the population, the minority name should be listed in the infobox and in the lead. That's the model currently being implemented in Romanian localities, such as those with Serbian populations of over 20% (], ], etc.) My intention here is in no way nationalistic - in fact, I was the one who supported the boldening of alternative names in Hungarian or Serbian at Romanian localities, and I have argued with many Romanian users over this. I'm just very frustrated that Panonian is absolutely unwilling to compromise. It would be great to reach a consensus over this as well have done, peacefully and rationally, at ]. ''']''' ] 09:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	Hi Ronline!
	We would appreciate your outside opinion in the following RfC!
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Gibnews
			::Well, by his own admission, Panonian is a bit short-tempered, but can be compromised with (although requiring handling in gloves :-). ). Actually, he's fairly tired of defending Vojvodina-related articles, and the subject of naming was a long-standing subject of nationalist attacks from various sides; he come up with the compromise solution of creating #Name sections and he's certainly reluctant to change it.<br>Now, I don't have a sensible suggestion (note that we do have <tt>name_alt</tt> parameter in {{tl|Infobox Serbia municipality}}, which is used for said 15%+ municipalities, like ]). Note that, since all 6 languages are official but the percentage of minorities highly varies from town to town, and there are historical German, Turkish and/or Latin names, having a "Name" section ensures that everything relevant is listed without cluttering the lead. Personally, I don't have a problem with your <nowiki>]</nowiki> suggestion. ]<span style="font-size:70%;">]</span> 09:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	Thanks alot!
	--] 11:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
			:::I understand why there is a separate Name section: because Vojvodina has 6 official languages and because indeed all those names may clutter up the lead. That in itself is not a problem, since a "Name" section is a valid way of placing alternative names. However, if such a section is established, then there should be a link from the lead. Panonian was also concerned (mainly with regard to Slovak rather than Vojvodinian articles) that a multilingual infobox may be confusing, as the reader will not know in which language each name is. However, this can be achieved through language tagging, which I have implemented on a provisional basis at ]. Do you think that would work? ''']''' ] 09:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	==Redirect==
	Can you redirect ] to ]? Thanks. 15:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
			::::Sorry, it looks plain ugly; I'd rather suggest , where the 15%+ minority language name is stated in the lead, and others go to #Name section; in that way, it becomes immediately clear. I'd also propose not using the "alternate name" in lead everywhere, e.g. for purely Serbian settlements with no other relevant names, like ] (but I'd also like Panonian to comment). ]<span style="font-size:70%;">]</span> 09:57, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	== Misplaced Pages Naming conventions ==
			:::::Yeah, I think your model is better. The only reason why I implemented the tags were because Panonian said that the infoboxes also needed some specification. I think the current model works well. As to "alternate names" link, I'm not sure at what level it should kick in. I agree that in a locality that's 97% Serbian it would be awkward. I guess it should be used where we would normally use alternate names in the lead. ''']''' ] 10:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	sal, am deskis un topic pe aceeasi tema a numelor alternative pt diviziunile administrative ale unui stat http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions#Administrative_division_may_have_an_alternative_name_.3F am mentionat acolo si faptul ca team intrebat de ce numele magyar al Romaniei nu este oferit ca nume alternativ in articolul Romania. ] 18:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
			:::::::The law presented by Duja is not a law of the state of Serbia, but law of the ] and this state does not exist anymore. Anyway, as I already said, Misplaced Pages is not obligated to follow official policies of the states, therefore even if such 15% limit exist in the state, there is still no reason that Misplaced Pages use it. Purpose of Misplaced Pages is to collect and present knowledge not to implement policies about minorities. ] 15:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	take a look at the french wikipedia, see how is treated as oposed to ] 09:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
			::::::::It is a law of Serbia as well, by the Constitution Law, until Parliament of Serbia brings a new one. I do agree that it doesn't bind Misplaced Pages though. I also fail to see the rationale for this ]; over & out. ]<span style="font-size:70%;">]</span> 15:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	take a look at the magyar wikipedia see how and are treated. u'll see no efforts from magyar editors of magyar wikipedia to translate the romanian name of Csongrad County, or Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg (romanian alternative name Sabolci-SatuMare-Bereg). why are editors of the romanian articles on english wikipedia so keen on ofering magyar alternative names for administrative divisions of romania, yet they dont offer the romanian alternative names for hungarian administrative divisions in the magyar wikipedia, or even in english wikipedia ? ] 10:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
			:::::::::But that law does not say that we have to write minority names into the infoboxes. Does it? ] 17:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	==Minority groups in Greece==
	] si ]. Te rog sa intervii si tu in incercarea de a stavili ethnocentrismul si ultranationalismu grec. Check out . Ce fac ei nu se cheama ''weasel words''? Si de ce sterg labelul ''sectfact'' cand e clar ca (cel putin) acea sectiune nu e NPOV. Te rog sa intervii. (Bogdan a facuto) Mersi 20:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
	== Oroare ==		==Please stop...==
			...your disruptive edits in Serbia-related articles. I understand that you have to prove your political point, but that is against everything that Misplaced Pages is - you will receive longer answer from me when I come home, but until then, please try to do something useful for wikipedia instead to push your personal views about wiki policies and usage of the names. Thank you. ] 19:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
			:Ok, I came home from my job, so longer answer now: first, I do not know why you think that agressive revert wars that you started will solve any problem? I had in the past to deal with much more agressive revert warriors than you (do not consider this offensive), so I just want to suggest that you do not waste your free time for nothing. Second, I already asked you to provide scientific reasons for your edits, and you did not done such thing - the only reasons that you presented are political ones and such reasons are not acceptable for scientific web site. Now, please explain your last edits in Vršac and Bela Crkva articles, i.e. please answer this question: do you believe that readers of Misplaced Pages are so stupid that they cannot find "Name" section for themselves so that you are sent by God to point them into that direction??? I would really want to know this answer. Of course, here is my explanation for my edit: names that are not widely used in English are not so important thing that should be in the first sentence of these articles - the first sentence (and first paragraph as a whole) should contain only most important informations about the subject, i.e. basic informations about location and population of the place. If you think that this is wrong, then please tell me reason why these names would be important enough to be posted in the first paragraph? Regarding WP:NCGN, it is ridiculous that you remind me that I should respect it when you do not respect it by yourself in Romania-related articles. Anyway, WP:NCGN is only a guideline or "friendly suggestion", but not obligation that must be followed blindly (no matter that I follow it for the most part). Also, why you again mixing "official languages" with "official place names" when I explained to you difference between these two terms - if you want to see that explanation again, just read my previous posts on your talk page. Also your claim that "no one here so far has advocated that these names be implemented because these cities somehow belong to neighbouring countries" is just ridiculous because if you see edit histories of many Wiki pages you will see that you are very wrong - irredentist claims are main reason for inclusion of such names into articles for many users. Also, if "this is not about neighbouring countries at all" then why you as a citizen of the neighbouring country want to push POV that could be seen as irredentist by some people (no matter if you really have irredentist intentions or not)? Also, my basic reason why I do not want to see "known also by several alternative names" sentence into first paragraph is because such sentence make article ugly and disrupting main story line of the article. Also, it is very correct that such "alternative names" are irrelevant and unknown because, for example, "Romanian" and "Hungarian" names for Vršac are nothing but twisted versions of the Serbian name, and that is a case with largest number of place names in Vojvodina (and in Romanian part of Banat as well, by the way, but it is a question that I do not want to raise anyway). As for you refering to the "rest of Misplaced Pages", I really regret that much of Misplaced Pages has been taken over by various irredentists from various countries who waste their free time to prove "rights" of their country or of their people to certain outlandish teritories and their presence here is indeed a big damage for this project. ] 21:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
	uitete si u la articolul ] . se vorbejte acolo de '''' . ''"The territory known today as Transylvania consists of a region of 16 counties "'' - de 3 ori vai. ] 13:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
	== explanations ==		==Thanks==
			Mulţumesc - for your efforts to make en-wiki a more tolerant, friendly and pleasant place. ] 20:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	sal ronline, am vazut explicatia ta din edit la Tulcea, cu "tatarii sunt diferiti de turci". cred ca nu e nevoie sa scrii asemenea lucruri evidente, ca doar no sa sara nimeni sa itzi dea revert lol. cred ca abia atunci cand editul tau este "controversial" abia atunci merita sa pierzi timp cu dat explicatii in edit ] 12:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
			:I agree with Zello. Multumesc foarte mult. --] 05:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
	a, si sunt curios, cum se conjuga Rroma la plural, nu Rromas ? and how is Rromas different from Romas ? ] 12:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
			::Thanks, --] 07:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
	==I suggest==
	I suggest a reference to the respective historical region in the infoboxes of Romanian counties. Tell me what you think. ] 21:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
	:Thanks for your support. Could you check and give me your opinion on the debate at ] and, in case you agree with me, ask Critzu to explain himself? ] 10:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
			==Conclusion...==
	== need mediation ==
			Now Ronline, let me tell you my opinion about best naming policies in Misplaced Pages:
	Please I need help.
			*(1.) In the first sentences of the articles and in the infoboxes we can use only generally accepted most common English names (We primarily writte Misplaced Pages for English-language readers and we should not confuse them with so many names in the infoboxes and in the first paragraph of the article where other more important things should be)
	I need mediation in a discussion about the article Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses.
			*(2.) If English-language readers want to know other names used for the subject, such names could be written in the "Name" section where they easy can find them
	There is a document called Declaration of facts in wich the JW assosiation 1n 1933 explains to Hitler its position in favour of the regime and the regime Ideals.
			*(3.) We can have separate article sections named "Language" where we can describe official language policies, i.e, we can say which languages are used as official by local or state authorities.
	This try of the JW assosiation did not succeeded and Hitler continued is persecution vs JW.
	They want to hide the document and want to give the document a different explanation because it is a bothering truth in JW history. But the document speaks by itself.
	Please I would like mediation. They do not correct our work they simply delete it, most of the time without any explanation in the discussion.
	Need mediation
	--] 12:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
			From the scientific point of view, my opinion is very logical and very much in accordance with scientific purpose of Misplaced Pages. There is really no any logical reason for usage of so many non-English names in English texts because such names do not mean anything to English-language readers. Of course, since I am tolerant person and since all rules can have exceptions, I did not removed minority names from the articles about places where ethnic minorities are in majority (places like ], ], etc). But of course, since every tolerance have its limits (especially when there are no scientific reasons for things beyond those limits), I am kindly asking you not to start more revert wars about articles about Serbian municipalities. If you want to discuss with me how we can improve these articles from the scientific point of view, I am always open for such discussion. In fact, perhaps we can cooperate and improve those articles: we can find all alternative names for all places and we can post them into "Name" sections of all arrticles or we can write "Language" sections in all these articles where we would describe official language usage policies in these municipalities, but please, do not push something that have no basis in science and in common sense and that is rather disruptive than anything else. ] 21:54, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
	==1919 Ro-Hu war==
	Please see , , , ] 16:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
			==Bilingual infoboxes in Romania==
	==]==
	Can you please show this user (did not edit his personal page) what we do with vandals? Check out his edit history at ]. ] 18:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
			A Romanian user, Roamataa began deleting minority language names in the infoboxes, see for example ] and ]. Indeed Roamataa deleted Hungarian names all over the infoxes in Cluj County (about a dozen villages). As far as I know there was a consensus among Romanian users that they accept bilingual infoboxes (with 20 % population limit), and there was no problem with them in the past half year. Please try to speak with Roamataa if it's possible about his campaign. ] 00:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
	== Wikţionar ==
			== Re: ==
	Salut! Am făcut un bot care să mă ajute în munca de pe Wikţionar şi am nevoie de aprobarea comunităţii pentru a i se acorda statutul. Te rog, vezi ]. Merci mult! — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
			But why do you say the infoboxes are not bilingual? In fact their are in 5 languages available and personally I added a lot of names in Hungarian (, , , (Unirea don't have 20% hu but the hu name is specified in the infobox) and many other). The Romanian, Hungarian, Ucrainian, German and Latin name are displayed on many of them. Please explain why do you think they are not multilingual. The only thing I changed is their title.
	== RE: Johnny Lee Clary - Please help ==
			You know as good as me that these articles are about communes (the NUTS IV administrative level of Romania), areas, administrative divisions of Romania and their names exist only in Romanian (the same of Romania development regions or counties) and this has nothing to do with how many people live in. The Popeşti village may be called Varfalva, but the commune is is an area which name it is oficially only ro.
	Hey there, my name is Nick, my username is Potters house and I have encountered a problem with trying to provide any information about Johnny Lee Clary. I have posted this post off to other staff members also. I am not sure if this is the best route to resolve this, but can think of no other way.
			And it was not me who decided these are communes (I did not created the articles, I did not added the Template:CommunesCluj). Please check also the ro infobox on communes and you'll see that in the title it write clear "commune" and it is in English a commune (it's not important what you or me believe).
	The article Johnny Lee Clary has been deleted. I have known Johnny through telephone conversations and email for a short time now (about 3-4 months). He recently came and shared his life story in for our church group for the first time just two weeks ago. Before I met Johnny I became interested in his story i.e. his conversion from the head of the KKK in the US, to being a Christian Minister who now teaches against race hate groups. I found the article ] as it still is today, deleted, except for some small talk. If you read the talk you see what I have said at the time (notice I have gotten no reply, probable my fault as I don’t know heaps about WIKI policy). From my understanding Johnny Lee Clary was posting as The KingOfDixie and looks like he tried to change a few things on Wiki concerning the KKK. While this is a controversial subject, Johnny being the former leader of the KKK would probably know a thing or two and be able to contibute, but that’s another story. He eventually made an article about himself i.e. Johnny Lee Clary. Johnny being quite new to Wiki and ignorant of rules of conduct found himself at odds with some admins and had his site deleted.
			:Şi câteva cuvinte pe scurt: Acum putem să stăm cu toţii să ne contrazicem sau să colaborăm. Văd că la Unirea, Alba ai atins un consens corect. Dar văd şi că există o campanie iniţiată de câţiva utilizatori decişi să schimbe / elimine numele româneşti şi care au transformat totul într-o prostie politică. Nu eu am stricat consensul existent ci cei care au vrut ca numele oficiale româneşti să fie schimbate cu altele. Ştii bine că ar putea fi acum invocate şi proceduri ca WP:NCGN sau altele şi să fie cerut să apară doar numele oficiale engleze, cf procedurilor. Dar poate că avem alte lucruri mai bune de făcut. Iar legat de cutia pt comune, trebuie să apară specificat faptul că e comună. Asta nu înseamnă că nu se poate găsi o soluţie rezonabilă şi acceptabilă pt toţi. Dar nu soluţii care să ne fie impuse cu forţa, atâta vreme cât oricum politica de acceptare a numelor la localităţile transilvănene este deja foarte permisivă, spre deosebire de altele. Dacă vrei să găsim un consens corect eu sunt deschis spre a-l stabili.--] 06:30, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
	Whilst observing Johnny over the last 3-4 months I have noticed that he is very outspoken against race hate groups such as the Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK etc. This, more often than not, lands Johnny in the hot seat. He has experienced persecution from racist groups for his departure from the KKK and voiced opinions against these racist organizations on his webpage, www.xkkk.org. Johnny has also received multiple death threats.
			::You mean something like ''Comuna Călăraşi'' and ''Harasztos Kommuna''? I think this is fair enough for both sides. But where is the convention for infoboxes at Misplaced Pages that the name is displayed in all officially-recognised languages of a locality? As far as I know the convention is to use the official English name in titles. I don't mind to have it writen in other languages, by respect for the people that live there (I too have hungarian friends and relatives), but where is the obligation to do this? I will check the rest of your observations.--] 07:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
			:::OK about the infobox title. It is fine for me to have the title of the infobox containing a title like Comuna Călăraşi/Harasztos Kommuna. --] 08:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
			==Roma series template==
	Because of his bold stance against these racist groups Johnny has become accustomed to hatred directed at him by those same groups. Johnny concluded that perhaps the guy who deleted the page ] was a white supremist. I am hoping to clear this up. Before he told me this, I started to create ], after hearing nothing from posting in user talk on Johnny Lee Clary's article. I wasn't 10 minutes into the ] article when it was issued a deletion notice, and then before I had time to reply (about 5 minutes) it was deleted! I was amazed. I told this to Johnny and he said the main reason he was told that he couldn't have an article was because he was not prominent enough.
			Hi, good initiative. In fact, I had this also in mind, but I planned it for later, when I would have added more info about the Romani people and culture, since now most of the articles are in a sorry state, are not really describing the Roma. Thanks, ] 08:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
			== Don't understand ==
	Johnny has a very famous testimony and has been on multiple TV shows like Oprah, Donahue, Jerry Springer, etc, and even recently when he preached in our town he made front page news, a double spread on his life, and the local ABC interviewed him live, which is not bad for our town (LISMORE NSW Australia) See http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history .
			Why did you added all the hu names to ]? --] 11:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
	When ] came to our town hardly anyone knew or cared, yet ] is allowed an article (and rightfully so), but more people know of Johnny. As to whether he is famous or not, just Google search him and see all the TV interviews and radio interviews he does. He hangs with some of the most prominent Christian leaders in Australia. Besides this, just being the former KKK leader should be enough for an article (he doesn't even get a mention in the KKK one, and would be deleted). He was also a Pro Wrestler. So he is prominent in Christian circles, he is prominent amongst race hate groups, and he is also prominent in the WWE wrestling.
			== Nice signature! ==
	Johnny asked me to test the waters for him to see if he was being persecuted by someone from a race hate group. So I created some sites, ] ] and ] - the name of Johnny's Ministry. These have been fine until yesterday. I cannot understand why these sites are just issued a deletion notice? Just because they mention JLC? I was hoping to discuss these things but they are just deleted. The one on Wade Watts is about a black gospel preacher who was one of the leaders in the civil rights movement in the US and was good friends with Martin Luther King. He took Johnny Clary under his wing and even ordained Johnny as a minister (to this day Johnny is the only white man ordained in the All Black Baptist Church). But his article is up for deletion because I mentioned Clary and had a link.
			How do you get the link to your User Talk page in your signature, please? I've tried putting this:
	That is why I am writing to you to see if you can help. It seems to me that the person(s) deleting all articles which even mention Johnny Lee Clary has an agenda. I thought that wikipedia admins had to keep a neutral stance on every article. It seems like this guy has a vendetta against JLC. Why delete the Wade Watts article. That is guilt by association and could be proof that all deletions are because of racial discrimination! I hope this is not the case and would think that it is politically motivated, as Johnny is a strong supporter of George Bush and Antaeus Feldspar of Kerry.
			:<nowiki> ''']''' ] </nowiki>
			in the SIGNATURE box of my user preferences and ticked RAW SIGNATURE but the envelope symbol still doesn't seem to link to my Talk page. ''']''' ] 16:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
			== Communes name ==
	See:
			For some of the communes and villages in Romania I will have to move them to a name consisting in their name and the name of the county (Băişoara -> Băişoara, Cluj), like on rowiki. This is because I intend to create the articles for the existing villages and otherwise will have duplicate names. --] 17:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush.
			==kommuna==
	My hope is that Johnny will be able to have an article like any other famous person, minister, former KKK leader, or pro wrestler, and that Johnny and anyone connected with him and his ministry will in future have certain rules set in place that do not allow the wholesale deletion of the articles associated with him, but that they will be at least discussed.
			Thank you for including this expression, I think, however, there is a better Hu word for this: "község" meaning settlement, also, community. There would be another word, too: "járás", but until we can specify the best solution, I would suggest "község", like on the homepage of Ilieni Commune (www.illyefalva.eu) Kommuna in Hungarian rather means ] --] 21:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
			I agree with KIDB. Indeed kommuna makes me think that in Romania anarcho-sindicalist groups began to flourish :) ] 23:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
	I thank you for reading this long winded post. I have only been using WIKI for about a year myself so I need your help, I don't really know what else to do. I hope you can help. I personally think that Johnny's story is one that is beneficial to the cause of reconciliation between races and to the3 unity of society as a whole. It would be a shame if WIKI became known for having covert racists. Of course I hope that this is a misunderstanding and that all will be cleared up soon.
			== "sockpuppet" hunt ==
	Here are some links that might help.
			Hi Ronline, and thanks for the clear-eyed and helpful contributions to the various naming-convention wars. I have a specific concern, unrelated to the recent debates but related to one of its participants. ] has just embarked on a massive campaign of tagging about 20-25 anonymous IP contributors' userpages and the userpages of two registered users as "suspected sockpuppets of banned user VinceB." I didn't bother looking into all the IPs contribs, since they are all from Vince's established IP range and I do know he's been still hanging around, but what concerns me is the registered users. Neither of them bear any resemblance to Vince to me, especially not this Lazio fellow. They both appear to be rather nationalistic Hungarians still sore about Trianon, but that's hardly anything unique. Their writing styles are completely different from Vince and in Lazio's case, his command of English appears vastly superior.
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Wade_Watts
			I don't know much about sockpuppet-tagging procedure, but common sense tells me that Panonian may be out of line here with his little witch-hunt. I just wanted to let you know in case something needs to be done in a case like this. ] 14:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
	http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:TheKingOfDixie
			Update: never mind. Looks like we have more of a real sockpuppet invasion than I thought--ugh. ] 16:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Operation_Colorblind
			==Erdeniss==
	http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Threeafterthree
			Thanks for doing the reverts, I was lazy to do it last night and now I see I have nothing to do :-) --] 07:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
			== ? ==
	http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Potters_house
			Can you please tell me why are you are reverting my edits? Do you have something against showing pictures and names of Romanian villages? Please stop. --<span style="border:1px solid red;padding:1px;">]|<font style="color:blue;background:yellow;">]</font></span> 13:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy
			== Discussion ==
	http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Antaeus_Feldspar
			I started a discussion at ]. Your opinion is welcome. --<span style="border:1px solid red;padding:1px;">]|<font style="color:blue;background:yellow;">]</font></span> 08:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush. Perhaps the bias is political and not racial?
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	The link for page: John Clary has already been deleted!
			Hi! I was passing by, I saw your current userpage and I wanted to express my support for your promotion of these right causes. Otherwise, I keep being busy in real life, so my work here is still going on a slower pace than I would like. ] 17:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
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			== László Almásy ==
			Hey - I see that you've put ] in ]. There is no reference in the article - do you have one available? Thanks! -- <span style="background-color: #EECCFF;">]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> (] | ])</span></span> 20:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
			:Have you gotten a chance to look this up? Thanks! -- <span style="background-color: #EECCFF;">]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> (] | ])</span></span> 21:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
			==Palmerston North==
			Hi Ronline. Do you feel like answering the points raised by Rossnixon on the PN Talk page? Just feel I should back off slightly for a while. ] 09:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
			==Mobile networks==
			Ronline, I placed a message on the ], because the ratio of mobile phones in Hungary is now over 100%. --] 21:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
			==Panonian==
			Can you please advise how to protect Misplaced Pages from the anti-Hungarian activities of ]? On the disambiguation page of he is doing a revert war against three users (including me), pushing his POVs.
			# My position is that Greater Hungary basically means the former Hungarian Kingdom. A simple Google search proves that most sources use Greater Hungary in this meaning. However, Panonian thinks that this meaning is only of secondary importance. He is convinced "Greater Hungary" as a political goal of Hungarian extremists, is more attached to this expression and the latter should be the first in the disambiguation list.
			# He is also convinced that a biased editorial should be included in the disambiguation page which I, as a Hungarian, consider rude and offensive against my Nation.
			For me it is now obvious that Panonian is using Misplaced Pages to do anti-Hungarian propaganda. His revert war against three other editors has been going on for 4 days. He never violated the 3RR rule because he waits usually for many Hours until his next revert, but he did 7 reverts during these days. We tried to discuss it with him but it is an impossible mission, he always writes a couple of sentences trying to demonstrate he is right. Can you possibly suggest an administrator who could deal with this issue? --] 21:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
			:One more note: I would support an NPOV article similar to ], Pannonian seems rather to be a supporter articles full of ''"citation needed"'' marks. --] 06:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
			::Thanks. --] 15:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
			==Zanya/Zanea==
			Hi! I recently made the article for the ] neighborhood/village of ]. Currently in this commune there are recognized 7 villages. Usually Zanya/Zanea was included in the village Ciurea as a neighborhood. In the recent years, informally, it started to be named also as village. I see that Zanea is named as village, but still the number of official villages is 7. You have much more experience in locality official names on Misplaced Pages, so I'd like to ask you which name you think it should come first. In fact, first of all, I'm not sure when an inhabited area is officially considered as an informal neighborhood which name should have priority. Thanks, ] 12:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
			:Hmm, after more study of the Google search, I see that also the Romanian name is used (in fact only this variant appears). I didn't know about this exposure, that's why I considered first the Romani variant. ] 13:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
			:::Btw,
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			Thanks for the info. Actually the idea to start such articles (I have in my mind others too) came when I wrote at ] about the ], now a list of articles selecting mostly negative and steretypical features. However, I'm still thinking how to tackle that unrealistic list. About the portal, yes it is necessary too, just I'm looking for more available time to write about the fundamentals of the Romani culture (the same as it was the case of making public ''Roma series template''). ] 14:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
			== Salut :D ==
			Hello, I was just wondering...are you the same '''''Ronline''''' that posted all those ] and ] music videos on YouTube? ] <sup> ] | ]|]</sup> 19:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
			== for ] ==
			''Salut!'' Would you, by any chance, be interested in voting here? --] 04:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
			==Query==
			Hi, Ro. I have a quick question: do you happen to know why the template for the Romani project includes all pages it tags in template and banner categories (like )? My guess is that it is a script error, but I am prestigiously incompetent when working with templates, so I can't be trusted to try and fix it. ] 22:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
			:Cheers. Judging by ], it doesn't need to be reviewed page-by-page. ] 00:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
			== question!!! ==
			if romania isent a slavic courty im nto saying all of it is im sayign abotu 60 percent is why do they find the racial genes of nordic peoples livign there and the percent of those people are about 60 percent of romanians.and why do we find so many slavic words in romanian languge i would nkow im half romanian and i lived there.the real romanians have tan skin black hair and dakr eyes i have resaerched the analasis of dacian remains and they show hight consetraion of millinia in upper derma wich means that that dacians were a dark complexioned dark eyed people.wich today the slavic romanians call by diffrent names ether then its onw there are to groups of people in romania one is light people blue eyes brown or ligth hair and the other real romanians dark hair dark eyes and tan skin.so in my aswere yes romania is a very slavic coutry seeing as about 45 percent of people in romania are beeing of slavic ansestry.
			== wat i have meant... ==
			no that is not wat im trying to prove at all.i am trying to prove that most of the people are slavic thats why they have a slavic mixed languge abot 60 percent of them are.as for romanian languge yes it is a latin and should belong to latin europe but only the laungede most people there dont have anythign with latin to do eople exepct for the ones mixed with romans.the people there are romanized slavs romanized germanics the majority of them are and the 30 percent or so romanized thracians.thracians did not belong to any latin group of people but rhater to near eastern people ranging from iran all the way to west turkey thats were the proto-thracians lived int he years wehn they migraited to europe in the south of iran ofcousre not the north im not sayign that thise thracians were iranians but studies of culture and there heritage reveal them as a near eastern people that belonged to there own group of people or one other group of people whos languge has been also extincted.but i said that because i come to my conclusion why would u call it latin europe when the people there have little to do with latin people at all exept of there langgue wich they adapted and exept those peopel mixed with roman colonists.u can only use that term as a top term to classify them in that cultural languge group.but if u want a term that is more into the subject u can not say that they are a regular latin courty.same goes for latin america were in some areas the people jsut speak spanish but have little to do with spaniards exept the mixed ones.u can only say it as a top term.im not arguing with u im just trying to say that so u dont jsut have black and white decsisios but also alternatives..thats all im trying to say.
			==Rjecina's proposal ==
			Please read Croatian user, Rjecina's message on my talk page. He also had problems with Panonian. What do you think about his proposal? Thanks. --] 18:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
			==Szetey==
			You may beinterested in news. Roll down the page to see the whole article. --] 10:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
			:OK. tell me when you are ready with the article, I will cross-check it with Hungarian references. --] 10:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
			::Well, bundás kenyér is quite a heavy stuff and is the best if you can have some paradicsom (possibly some onion, too) with it, similarly to vinete, which, I suppose, Hungarians learned from Romanians. About Demszky - he is a politician after all and this says everything. Even if he was a brave anticommunist and was harrassed and beaten by the police of Kádár, many people think that the 17 years he has spent in office as the Mayor of Budapest was too long. --] 08:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
			==Demszky==
			I can't assess his activities as I am neither a politologist nor an urban planner, but the POVs about him :-) from left and right can be read in the ] article. The overall perception? It depends. If you talk to a supporter of conservative parties, you will learn that he is an evil person destroying the once-beautiful Budapest. If you listen to Socialists or Liberals, you will hear that he is the only person able to save the city from evil FIDESZ politicians. --] 11:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
			==Thank ''you''==
			Ro, I am deeply honored, since you are one of the editors I look up to. I'm actually glad we get to collaborate on at least one project (though my contributions there are somewhat limited in scope). Thank you, and not just for the barnstar. ] 18:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
			I echo Dahn's sentiments. Thank you very much, Ronline, for your generous award of the barnstar, and so much else. I appreciate it. ] 00:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
			== Autistic South Bolzon ==
			Regarding your edit : There is a discussion on ] about that (again). In short: Brittanica calls the province "Bolzano/Bozen" , while the autonomy statute on the official website uses "Province of Bozen - South Tyrol" . Incidentally, that website itself and several other places use "Autonomous Province of Bozen - South Tyrol" (in the copyright tag at the bottom). The website of the Provinvial Statistics institute uses "Autonomous Province of Bolzano". Other official sites use only "South Tyrol".
			Some have pointed to ], saying we shouldn't necessarily be looking for or using the official name at all, but instead use the ''widely accepted English name''. Someone objected to the bilingual naming and removed the "Bozen", and of course there are sites that use only "Bolzano" for the prvince as well...
			I'm out of ideas right now, but using Bolzano/Bozen or Bolzano exlusively seems to me to be confusing for the reader. The widely accepted English name seems to be either "Alto Adige" or "South Tyrol", when you search Google and Google news. —''']''' (]) 19:38, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
			:Personally, I agree that "ST" is the least confusing compromise, and that was the version used until an IP ] many articles. It was reverted twice, first by ], then by me, and then another user came and changed it again. I don't think consensus will be easy to find on this one. —''']''' (]) 00:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
			::joined your conversation at Aldebaer's talk page. Note that it has been South Tyrol for a long time because a large set of users with a particular POV have made it this way. It is by no means a compromise if you understand the political implications. ] 01:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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			I just created this article on this very topical subject. The subject matter would make for a good featured article, so I am hoping to enlist your help to get it there qualitatively. ] 02:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
			*Oops, you work fast! I made some changes off line and posted them, then I realised you had already tucked in, I think I reversed it in time! ] 08:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
			==Query==
			Hi, Ro. I know you have been involved in creating various Romania-related templates, and I could use a second opinion on a particular detail. I left a comment at ]. Thank you. ] 14:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
			==Discussion about false map==
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=prev&oldid=65690238
			If you want to see something interesting you must to look article ], PANONIAN map of Serbia in 1918 and our discussion about this map. Discussion is on discussion page of article for which I have given you link. In last week I am fighting with PANONIAN that this fantasy map in which even Pecs and Timisoara are Serbian territory be deleted on wiki. ---] 19:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
	then
			==Help==
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=next&oldid=65690238
			Hi, I see that you are an admin here, so please help me about this: ] harassing me claiming that I am "fundamentalist" and accusing me that I said things that I did not said: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3ABorders_before_and_after_Yugoslavia&diff=146127770&oldid=145876340 Can you please tell him not to call me "fundamentalist" and twist my words because these false accusations are really not pleasant. Also, you can see that he call other users "fundamentalists" as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3ANikola_Tesla%2FNationality_and_ethnicity&diff=146129581&oldid=146118836 As an admin you can remind him that he should behave civil and provide arguments for the subject of dispute not to harass other users on personal basis. I would really appreciate your help here. ] 20:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
	Also note his contributions:
	Featured articles:
	· African American literature -- My first featured article. Thanks to everyone who gave feedback. While I didn't start the article, I obsessed on it for an entire month and wrote most of the copy.
	· Ku Klux Klan -- I began work on this article after it became a featured article. Since then I've mediated several editorial disputes on the article (including one of which kept the article from being delisted as a FA) and made a large number of edit. ] 00:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Nick.
			: At least the map of Kingdom of Serbia in 1918 is false indeed. Baranya and other territories were under military occupation of Serbia, but noone recognised the occupation. Otherwise another map created by PANONIAN suggests that the unconstitutionally created and short-lived Serbian Voivodship was a voivodship of Serbia while the Principality of Serbia under Ottoman rule had nothing to do with this Voivodship. I support the deletion or modification of these maps. --] 21:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
	== Tot Wikţionar ==
			::Koppany, this was already discussed on the proper talk page, so why you do not read whole discussion there? These regions officially united with Serbia and SHS Kingdom in 1918 and this Kingdom was recognized by the international community in 1919, while Hungary was officially recognized one year later (in 1920). Also see Hungarian source that I used as a source for borders in my map: http://terkepek.adatbank.transindex.ro/kepek/netre/167.gif Also, Voivodship of Serbia certainly was not "unconstitutionally created" and reasons why these two territories are showed with same colour are also explained on the proper talk page. You are welcome to participate in discussion on these talk pages if you want because talk page of user Ronline is really not a proper place for that - I only asked here user Ronline for help about one specific question and this is not place where other questions should be discussed because all these articles and images do have their own talk pages. ] 22:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
	Bună! Mai am o rugăminte. Am vrut să adaug 2 spaţii de nume noi, dar la Bugzilla mi s-a cerut sondaj. Aşa că am făcut o propunere, ]. Pentru că şi aşa comunitate nu prea există, am pus ca sondajul să dureze 3 zile. Vrei să participi şi tu, dacă ai 2 minute? Merci mult! — ] <sup>]</sup> 18:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
	== Request ==		== Bačka ==
	Hi Ronline,		Hi Ronline,
			I would like to ask you to help me on the discussion page with user PANONIAN regarding to the article http://en.wikipedia.org/Ba%C4%8Dka. As summarization: PANONIAN wrote the Demograpics part with some explanation. I think PANONIAN's work is a very good summarization of the viewpoint common among Serbs. But there exist another viewpoints, in this case Hungarian, which may differ form Serbian. For example: in the article it is written that the 1941 census was unreliable, but nothing is written to censuses 1921 and 1931. Hungarian historians think 1941 census was relaively reliable, but here were many problems with 1921 and 1931 censuses. I don't want to say that Hungarians hold the divine truth and the Serbs not, but according to Misplaced Pages's NPOV every relevant viewpoints has to be presented in a fair way.
	Would you be able to answer ? In my opinion, you're the user who can answer it the best. Mulţumesc! &mdash;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">]</span> 22:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
			I don't want to write here all my problems with that section; I think I've summarized them in a fair way. At first please read Demographic (2) part on discussion page, there are 4 (in fact: 3) points, which I think not neutral, the explanation why I consider it not to be neutral, and a proposal.
	==Transylvania==
	Please take a look at what ] has begun doing in the article ]. This man has called for mediation, has opened ten debates on the same topic in various places, has been proven wrong every single time, and now he just adds the same views without even caring. Please give your input on the article's talk page about whether this is or isn't trolling/vandalism. ] 16:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
			Thanks for your help in advance: Csaba Faragó
	Please take a look at ] and ] also... ] 20:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
			] 12:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
	:We need to protect the article taking in view what is happening at the time I am writing this. ] 15:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
			==Help==
	== Hungarian language officialy recognised in Romania ==
			Can you help with this user: http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Wallak I suspect that it is sockpuppet of banned user Bonaparte and he vandalizing various articles related to Romanians and Vlachs. Can we do something about it? ] 19:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
	hi Ronline, i hope u read the law about the use of the language of the minorities in the localities where these minorities form 20% of the population. If you formulate this concept as "Hungarian language officialy recognised in Romania" then in my opinion you can present an official document of ROmania written in Hungarian language. The fact that public signs have the hungarian name of a city does not make that sign an official document. as the documents with the hungarian translation of an official document received by an ethnic hungarian are not oficial documents. ] 17:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
			:Can you also translate for me what this link say: http://www.adevarul.ro/index.php?section=articole&screen=index&id=25504&search=Timoc ] 19:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
	==Dear mediator==
			::I told you one more time: I'm Wallak and don't remove sourced information because you'll be reverted.--<span style="font:bold 11px Arial;display:inline;border:#000066 1px solid;background-color:#ECF1F7;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">]</span><sup>]</sup> 19:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
			::::Use this link also: http://www.adevarul.ro/index.php?section=articole&screen=index&id=25504&search=Timoc
	Ronline, we need your mediator skills and monitoring on the problem which exists on ]. I was personally attacked by By ]: "A Russophobic LDingley aggressively pushes his POV in Georgian-Abkhaz conflict despite myself being exceptionally mild with my changes after ghirla asked me to keep an eye. Judging from his swinging hot temper I start suspecting that he is in fact a sock of a Georgian nationalist, contrary to the photo in his user page." Also the talk page on that article is going nowhere. We need your help. Thanks in advance. ] 18:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
			<blockquote>
	== Your GA nomination ==
			'''Iugoslavia recunoaste apartenenta vlahilor din Valea Timocului la minoritatea romaneasca'''
			(66 afisari, 2002-11-06) Prin acordul privind minoritatile, semnat, luni, la Belgrad, de catre presedintii Ion Iliescu si Voislav Kostunita, statul iugoslav recunoaste dreptul apartenentei la minoritatea romaneasca din Iugoslavia al celor aproape 120.000 de vlahi (cifra neoficiala), care traiesc in Valea Timocului, in Serbia de Rasarit. Reprezentantii romanilor din Iugoslavia, profesori, ziaristi, scriitori, i-au multumit, ieri, la Pancevo, sefului statului pentru aceasta intelegere cu guvernul de la Belgrad. Acordul este considerat de importanta istorica pentru romanii din Valea Timocului, care, din timpul lui Iosip Broz Tito, traiesc fara drept la invatamant si viata religioasa in limba materna, practic nerecunoscuti ca etnie. "Nu vom face ca fostul regim, sa numim noi care sunt minoritatile nationale sau sa stergem cu guma alte minoritati", a spus, ieri, Rasim Ljajic, ministrul sarb pentru minoritati, la intalnirea de la Pancevo a presedintelui cu romanii din Iugoslavia. Deocamdata, statul iugoslav nu a recunoscut prin lege statutul vlahilor de pe Valea Timocului, insa de-acum va acorda acestora dreptul la optiunea etnica, va permite, in decembrie, constituirea Consiliului Reprezentantilor Romani si va participa in Comisia mixta romano-iugoslava la monitorizarea problemelor minoritatilor sarba si romana din cele doua state. In Iugoslavia traiesc cateva sute de mii de romani. Presedintele Ion Iliescu s-a angajat, ieri, pentru o politica mai activa privind romanii din afara granitelor: "Avem mari datorii fata de romanii care traiesc in afara granitelor. Autocritic vorbind, nu ne-am facut intotdeauna datoria. De dragul de a nu afecta relatiile noastre cu vecinii, am fost mai retinuti, mai prudenti in a sustine cauza romanilor din statele vecine. (...) Ungurii ne dau lectii din acest punct de vedere", a spus presedintele, precizand ca romanii trebuie sa-si apere cauza "pe baza de buna intelegere".
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			There isn't a strong controversy. Everything related to the Vlachs (Romanians) of Serbia can be add it in the main article ]. Even the Serbian Gov. recognize them that they are Romanians so there isn't any need to create artificial articles about new minorities. --<span style="font:bold 11px Arial;display:inline;border:#000066 1px solid;background-color:#ECF1F7;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">]</span><sup>]</sup> 15:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
	{{User:Run!/GA}} ] 08:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
	==]==		==Vlach language==
			Panonian, the point here is that it must be mentioned that in the census there is such thing as a Vlach language. I'm not saying we shouldn't mention that. "They are officially recognized as separate languages" --> Yes that should be mentioned. However, ''in truth'' they are the same, so it cannot be asserted that the "Timok Valley Vlachs" speak "Vlach". There is no such thing as Vlach! It is one thing to say that "The Vlachs of Serbia speak Vlach" and another one to say "Serbian authorities consider Timok Valley "Vlachs" to speak the Vlach language, even though the language they speak is identical to Romanian" or even "Many Vlachs say that they speak the Vlach language, but this language is identical to Romanian" What I'm saying is - as per the NPOV policy, it's not wrong to mention the word "Vlach". However, it shouldn't be stated as truth. ] 11:30, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
	I would like to ask you whether this word was used as a personal name in Romanian language or not in the past or the present. I know that it means shepherd in Romanian but Panonian claims that it was also a name. If that's true I'm not against to mention it in the ] article. I'm also sure that his Romanian ortography in the form ''Bac'' is incorrect. ] 16:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
			:See my reply on my page. As much as you want to be NPOV, here you're very POV if you support Serbia's Gov. POV. --] 08:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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	Hi, I saw you corrected the orthography. Do you have any guess about the existence as a personal name? The conflict is over now and the final version is quite good - well-sourced and neutral. We also have two articles about the names, it came out that they are of different origin. If the Romanian name exists than it is certainly a relative of the Serbian one (]), and would be great to mention it there. If not then we should delete from the town etymology as it is accepted that the town was named after a person not an occupation. ] 01:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
			01 august 2007 Azi 01.08.2007 la sediul din Negotin al CNRS a sosit confirmarea inregistrarii Consiliului National al Rumanilor din Serbia (in limba sarba se utilizeaza sinonimul arhaic pentru roman,“vlasi”). Consiliul reprezinta comunitatea romaneasca din Timoc si are precizat in statutul sau '''utilizarea ca limba materna a limbii romane literare''', transmite corespondentul Romanian Global News din Timoc.Necesitatea inregistrarii acestui consiliu a fost data de faptul ca romanii din Timoc (peste 250.000) au o situatie diferita de romanii din Voivodina (circa 35.000), iar obiectivele fiecareia dintre cele doua comunitati sunt diferite. Daca cei din Voivodina au avut si au scoli si biserici in limba proprie inca de pe timpul Imperiului Austro-ungar, romanii din Timoc de mai bine de 200 de ani sunt supusi unui intens si agresiv proces de asimilare care a lasat numeroase urme in mentalitatea si onomastica comunitatii si a facut ca in zona Timocului sa nu existe scoala si biserica romaneasca.
			</blockquote> Have you read this? or you ignore it?--] 08:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
	== Deleting revisions ==
			Thank you Ronline, and please don't ignore simple facts that happend these days. This is history for the Romanians of Serbia!--] 08:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
	I noticed you were discussing with with ] - you might want to take a look at ] on meta. Thanks. &mdash;]]] / 14:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
			You are proved to be a fighter for the minority rights, regardless of their ethnicity, sex..etc. It's the same problems with the minority rights of the Romanian community from Serbia. keep up your good work! ;-) --] 09:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
	== Romanian name ==
			Why they say I'm Bonny? can you ask a CheckUser?--] 18:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
	See this: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Bač#Romanians There is relatively large Romanian minority living in the town, thus I think that Romanian name for the town should be included into preface part too. Is it correct name for this town in Romanian "Baci" or something else? ] ] 20:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
	== hello Ronline theBlackbay here  ==
			==Inserting constant POV==
	'''Help From fellow Wikipedians against censorship!'''
			See {{template:Europe topic}} where Mikkalai is inserting Transnistria in the list even if it is a breakaway region of Moldova and so it will last forever.--] 06:44, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
	Thank you for your time I was wondering if i could ask your opinion?? :)
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			== Chronic fatigue syndrome ==
	Also any contribution you would like to make to improve the article please consider!
			Just a note to inform you that I've reverted your forking of ]. Firstly, there was no discussion whatsoever to make such a move, which should have happened given that the ] on some days gets at least 10 edits a day. Secondly, different treatments are proposed by different "schools of thought"; disconnecting this information would lead to fragmentation of the article and an opportunity for the proponents of either school to take control of a subarticle. Thirdly, there are other sections that would equally well benefit from splitting off.
	Really i wouldn't ask if i did not really think this article worthy.
			If you still think the article should be split up, please let me know. At any rate, it cannot happen without discussion. ]&nbsp;|&nbsp;] 11:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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	==Vino la pagina de discutii Transnistria==
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	În 17 septembrie va fi referendum în Transnistria legat de independenţa regiunii. Cu această ocazie probabil multă lume va căuta pe Misplaced Pages informaţii despre Transnistria. Am încercat să adaug în articol nişte informaţii legate de acest referendum, anume:
			Our Peer review project is struggling at the present, with only a few people reviewing the articles. While it is certainly possible to submit articles for a general peer review, a review by members of the LGBT community can be of additional value for LGBT specific writing. There are several articles currently up for review on a wide range of topics. At the very least, reading the articles will undoubtedly broaden your intellectual horizons :-)
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	- faptul că mai multe organizaţii antiseparatiste au lansat un apel la boicotare, considerînd referendumul "farsă"
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			;Pederasty article controversy
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	Userul Willian Mauco, care pare fan Tiraspol, mereu mi-a şters adăugirile. (vezi istoria paginii)
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	Puteţi vedea la pagina de discuţii Transnistria ce argumente a adus. Anume: ăia care cer boicotarea referendumului din Transnistria sînt foşti KGB-işti, că aşa zice o organizaţie rusească de analiză (a dat un linc pentru asta). Întîi a spus că respectivii nici nu sînt din Transnistria, ci doar din Basarabia, dar i-am dovedit că unii dintre semnatarii apelului la boicot sînt transnistreni. Am fost împăciuitor, i-am zis că n-are decît să adauge părerea organizaţiei ruseşti că antiseparatiştii sînt foşti KGBişti, că n-are decît să-i considere pe cei care vor boicotarea referendumului drept băieţi răi, dar faptul în sine, că s-a cerut boicotarea referendumului, trebuie menţionat. Degeaba, mereu mi s-au şters adăugirile - pentru celelalte 2 fapte nici n-a adus argumente.
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	A mai fost o adăugire care a şters-o, despre arestarea a 4 persoane din Transnistria care sînt împotriva separatismului (între timp li s-a dat drumul). În cazul ăsta am renunţat eu să mai insist pentru includerea informaţiei în articol (deşi informaţia e incontestabilă), tocmai fiindcă n-am vrut să mă cert prea mult.
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	În perioada asta cînd agenţiile de ştiri vor menţiona referendumul de la Tiraspol, se va citi articolul Transnistria în Misplaced Pages poate mai mult decît într-un an întreg. De aia acum e nevoie să existe în articol informaţii despre contestarea corectitudinii referendumului. Nu cer să se menţioneze ca adevăr absolut faptul că referendumul e incorect, ci doar că există unii (OSCE, 45 din 46 ţări ale Consiliului Europei, unele organizaţii din zonă şi din Basarabia) care consideră asta. Vă cer de aceea sprijinul ca să interveniţi pe pagina de discuţii Transnistria pentru a susţine rămînerea informaţiei în pagină şi să repuneţi informaţia atunci cînd Mauco o şterge (eu nu pot să verific chiar 24 de ore din 24). Evitaţi atacurile suburbane, păstraţi ton civilizat. mulţumesc.
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	Who is William Mauco Here is an article about a Misplaced Pages celebrity, William Mauco, and his relations with the International Council for Democratic Institutions and State Sovereignty (ICDISS), an organisation "which seems to be a front organisation for a Kremlin-backed rogue statelet called Transdniestria" (quote from the article) http://0.bypass-filter.com/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL2Vkd2FyZGx1Y2FzLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbS8yMDA2LzA4L2dvdGNoYS0yLmh0bWw%3D
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			== The difference between Romania and Poland ==
	==Transnistria's update==
			This is a cool link showing the difference of treatment between Romanian and Poland. You will see that the latter is actually respected, regardless of its shortcoming (which are important) . ] 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
	Am observat că ai intervenit la articolul Transnistria, dar a avut grijă Mikkalai să-ţi şteargă adăugirile. Eu am făcut şi o cerere de ridicare a protecţiei la care nu s-a răspuns.
			==Revisiting an issue==
			Hi, Ronline. On Jmabel's talk page, I have raised ]. I don't know if you want to get involved in assessing the arguments and counterarguments, but I would welcome any input from you, given the extended and volatile nature of the polemic on this topic, its importance to present-day politics, and the one-sidedness nature of virtually all arguments brought up against the text. Thanking you in advance, ] 00:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
			== Cyprus economy ==
			Hi. You added the following statement to the economy section of the article about Cyprus, and I have two questions.
			"Its per-capita income is slightly lower than that of the big four European economies, but higher than the European Union average."
			1 - Am I safe in assuming that the "big four" are the U.K., Germany, France, and Italy? If so, then I will clarify that in the article.
			2 - Is there a reference for this information? The paragraph makes it appear that it comes from the existing reference.
			I appreciate your help. ] 02:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
			== Montenegro ==
			...why precisely did you add ''by linguists''? --] 14:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
			:It cannot be connected with Bosnian because of several things. Firstly, the Bosnian language ''factually exists'', i.e. those who want to understand Bosnian can do so by finding Bosnian-language-educated professors, reading Grammars and Primers. There are works specifically written in Bosnian language. However, there is no such thing with the Montenegrin language - it doesn't exist beyond a paper adopted into legal act (politically) several days ago. Additionally, 100% of speakers of the Bosnian language consider their language a language - over 80% of the speakers of the Montenegrin language, consider it a dialect of Serbian, while only 20% think it's a separate language.
			:In the end I understand what you want to say - but see ] and ]. I am trying to pair up for general neutrality of the Misplaced Pages, and hence that. As you can see, all my proposals were rejected - and the current version is in my opinion a bit too POV, and probably even more from your edge of view. --] 15:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
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			Hey, ], it's that time of the month again (no not ''''']''''' &mdash; get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the ] ] newsletter from your ] ]. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!!
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			===Alice and her harasser===
			Let's start with some good news: ] and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. ], on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the ]. We seem to have a sort of ] thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes <bright smiles all around>.
			===Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher===
			] got ] this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.
			==="My Fellow Americans"===
			On a more serious note, ] has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.
			===Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages===
			] (not the ], but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Misplaced Pages, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful ] has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?
			===Beat writer arouses Irish guy===
			And speaking of passions, ] has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator ], mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Misplaced Pages purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the ] and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.
			===Love those Texas Longhorns===
			Did you know that one of our ], ], lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a ] to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).
			===Point and Counterpoint===
			Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, ] was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.
			===Drudgery on offer===
			] is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
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			The article ] certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it ] Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.
			===This month's Wiki stars===
			] (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer ] has decided to spice up ] this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles ''''']''''' and ''''']'''''. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the ] became a ] Rah rah, siskumbah! ''Go, team, '''GO!!!!'''''
			===And the Oscar goes to...===
			Not content to run for ], plucky Bannon won a ]... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are ], ] and ]. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth ] ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.
			=== Fresh faces to brighten our pages ===
			Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy.
			===Leather and lace===
			On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by ], who desperately wants to get the ] copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!
			===Late breaking news===
			A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble ] was delisted from the ] due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that ] should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a ''challenge to improve'' (and good Lord, I sound almost ]).
			===Champagne dreams and caviar kisses===
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			Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our ] cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of ] in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the ] persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy ] on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out.
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			In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a ]! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your ] never turn into a ].
			Kisses,
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			] Ho, ho ho (but not '''''that''''' kind of ]!) and ], everybody! Yes, that's right. It's time for the ] of the ] ] newsletter. This ] ] is cruising into Christmas and counting down the days to a ] It doesn't matter if you're ] or belong to some ], ] ]. ] one and all, so let's curl up around the fire, sing some ], drink some ], and have a ]. But before we do, perhaps your ] ] ] should spread the ] news from [[Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject LGBT studies|everyone's favorite project....
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			<b id="news_quelle">Quelle Suprise! ] is a Queen!</b><br>
			Our dear ], never a stranger to controversy, recently decided to delve into the ] of the ], and what did he discover? King James had more than appreciative eyes for ] Naturally, Haiduc felt the need to share this news with the community, but instead of being praised for his scholarship, he was reviled. In fact, one rabid heterocentrist even rummaged around in his own wardrobe until he found an old pair of ] to play with. All seemed lost until astute editor ] noticed some odd postings and did some sleuthing of his own. The socks were uncovered, the ] was ] and readers the world over were able to learn that Good King James regularly ordered tube steak from the menu of the day. Thank you, Haiduc! Thank you, Jeff! And let Miss Julie add (for readers who ]) that ] tastes just like ]!
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			<b id="news_britney">]</b><br>
			Well, maybe it's not Miss Thang, herself, but it's the next best thing: ]! he stirs up just about as much controversy as his idol does, even here on Misplaced Pages. Though it's all a bit of a muddle, one of our editors hopes you can drop by the talk page and leave a message of hope for those battling the forces of obstructionism in that little corner of the Wiki World. It is so hard to spread enlightenment. As ] herself said, "You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think".
			<b id="news_gameshow">]</b><br>
			Wallowing in cash from the latest , the powers-that-be have decided to sponser a little contest here to improve the articles, with a Grand prize of $100. Yeah. Just enough for a ] dinner for the family. Still, the thought is nice and the goal is noble, so we should support it. Our little Queer beehive has taken a look at what's on offer, and both the ] and ] are well represented. The ever useful ] has made a little list, which can be found ] (if that malignant bot hasn't archived it already, that is). So find a pal, roll up your sleeves and dive right in. Let's show this Encyclopedia just what Queers with firecrackers up their....err, I mean, let's show the others what we can do.
			<b id="news_jonsi">]</b><br>
			I can't pronounce his name, but he's awfully cute, he's deliciously foreign, and best of all...he's '''''GAY!''''' But he won't be for long, if ] have their way. A concerted effort has been under way for a while now, designed to neuter poor Jon (pretend I put a little accent thingy over that O) and make him into a sort of rockin' ]. So please watchlist this hunka man, and '''''keep him queer'''''! If anybody questions you, tell them "Miss Julie sent me".
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			<b id="news_sequel">Everybody loves a sequel</b><br>
			Readers not afflicted with ] will remember that last month we had a little story about ]. That proved so popular that we bring you the sequel: ] and his stalker. After a chance meeting at the ], this anonymous user took a shine to our Benjiboi, and has been showering him with attention on virtually every board on Misplaced Pages. Flattered though he is, Benjiboi finds the attention a bit distracting, and administrators have been seeking various remedies for this. It has proven difficult, as the stalker has an IP address that changes quicker than ] in a telephone booth. So perhaps some of you would like to watchlist Benjiboi's page, and lend a hand if you see some love letters from an 11 digit friend. I was actually thinking we should get Alice's harasser and Benjiboi's stalker together. Then we could have another sequel, sort of like ]. Any bets as to who would win??
			<b id="news_special">Not quite the second coming, but special just the same</b><br>
			Let me be the first to give a warm, wet, Love Boat kiss (though not with tongue) to our newest Project members: ], ], ], ] and ]. Even in the month of our Saviour's birth, your popping into our Wikipedian lives is a blessed event indeed. As Jesus Himself said, ] He did say that, didn't he? I think he said it. In any event, if he was standing next to me now, I'm sure he'd say it, and add, "Happy homo editing!"
			<b id="news_battle">Battle of the Misplaced Pages Stars!</b><br>
			Indomitable ] is holding her own in Misplaced Pages's answer to ]: ] For four feverish weeks, she has mastered the challenges and not been eliminated from the competition. Drop by the FAC page and show Ann you love her....or give her the hook (I'm not supposed to tell you how to vote). Giving our plucky Ann reason to hope is the recent promotion of ]. If Miss Julie has her way, we will have the entire alphabet of Queerdom Featured here on Misplaced Pages soon! And I would be remiss if I did not give a warm, Lesbian salute to our own ], who showed Misplaced Pages with ] that even ] are no protection from the Love that dare not speak its name, and got a ] for her efforts.
			Climbing the Misplaced Pages career ladder is ], who has not only written, but is now promoting ] to ]. Best of luck, Tim, and remember: there are no small parts, only small actors. We're sure you'll be trading that green circle for a gold star soon (assuming you get the green in the first place!).
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			<b id="news_needelves">Santa needs elves</b><br>
			Yes, I know: packages need buying, trees need trimming, egg nog needs drinking. The holidays make many demands on our time. It's ...well, it's a bitch, is what it is. So I wouldn't blame you for skipping this little section and putting off my request until next year. But...think of the children. Our future. They need quality information about the homosexual "lifestyle" if we are to ]. That's why I am asking you to drop by ] and give your meaning as to the efforts of your fellow gay Wikipedians. And think: in this season of kindness and good will to all, isn't it nice that I am pointing you to someplace where you can (in a Wikiloving way, of course) rip someone a new asshole? Think about it...and those children with their shiny, bright eyes, thanking you for contributing to their future.
			Even more festively, consider joining in on the ] of our favorite articles. Here you can bandy about such words as "homophobia", "Right-wing Christian agenda" and my personal favorite, "just who do you think you're pushing around?!?!?". If you play your cards right, there might even be an ] for you. :-D
			<b id="news_urgeappeal">Urgent Christmas appeal</b><br>
			] asked me to ask you to edit ] as part of the Collaboration Project. She's an old dead poet (Miss Bishop, not Tovojolo. I've never actually met Tovojolo. She's probably very young and attractive. Maybe somebody should ask if she's single), but she was a flaming homosexual long before most of us had even been conceived, so we owe her some respect. Tovojolo actually asked me for the last newsletter, but Miss Julie forgot. Bad Miss Julie. She was so busy boosting morale it just slipped right by her. ], maybe you need to ] again to get Julie back in line.
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			<b id="news_dorothy">Surrender, Dorothy!!!!!!!</b><br>
			] has attracted the attention of a group of....the more senior elements of our gay society. They disagree with our thesis that ] was the possible source of the term, and demand we change the article to reflect their contention that ] was the origin. The problem is, their source didn't check out. So we agreed to disagree. Well, we at the project did. They got kinda mad at us, said unkind things, and started edit warring. Though they are old, they are certainly quick, and could revert the article faster than my nimble fingers could press the undo button. To quote the divine Miss Parker, every time I saw the article on my watchlist, I thought to myself, ''"What fresh hell is this?"''. The page was protected by sympathetic administrators, but keeping an eye on it will keep Dorothy safe from ]
			<b id="news_ambrosia">Ambrosia</b><br>
			Our dear ] has been busy indeed, lately. He recently made fruit salad out of ], turning a once nasty word into a damn good article, and saving it from deletion! Congratulations, Benjiboi! I hear he has turned his attention from fruit to ] now. Before he is through, he will have turned every major food group gay on Misplaced Pages!
			<b id="news_early">Christmas came early</b><br>
			Yes, indeed! Valued administrator ] was raised out of the mire of mid-level management and placed squarely into the ] And Miss Julie is just too proud of him not to mention that '''''he got the most support votes in the history of Misplaced Pages'''!'' Congratulations, WJB! We know you will not prove ] correct!
			<b id="news_you">You!</b><Br>
			Yes, '''''you'''''! It's '''''you''''' who make this project shine! It's '''''you''''' who make Misplaced Pages such a valuable resource for all humanity! And it's '''''you''''' who make Miss Julie's dull life just a little bit better. So I want to take this moment to thank each and every one of '''''you''''' for all '''''you''''' do here. ], everybody! ]! ] ] ] And for our ], I wish you a ]. And if I didn't mention '''''your''''' favorite December holiday, well, it's because I feel it's so special I should just keep it between you and me. Always remember: ]
			May we all have a joyous holiday season, and a safe, healthy, happy and prosperous 2008.
			With love from ]
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			== salut, ai un e-mail sau o adresa de messenger? ==
			salut, ai un e-mail sau o adresa de messenger? vreau sa discut ceva cu tine urgent ] (]) 12:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
			== ping ==
			Please read your en wikinews talk page. (I've also emailed you. sorry for spam). ] (]) 11:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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			==Ferentari riot==
			Hello. Could I ask you to look at ], in particular Dl.goe's edit and Jmabel's talk page message? I'm pretty sure my version (really yours) is more accurate, but since you wrote the article, I thought it would be a good idea to inform you of the issue. Thank you. ] (]) 00:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
			==Compasiune==
			Îmi exprim compasiunea pentru ]. Dacă n-ar fi armata rusă, la fel ar păţi separatiştii şi în Transnistria.--] (]) 20:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
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			Ms Julie is .. unavailable .. this month, so Isaac and Gopher have stepped in to put this newsletter thing together. We may not be as funny as you're used to, but if you'd like a free drink, come see me at the bar. That might help. Maybe. And no, there aren't any flashing lights or fancy pictures this month - I'm still recovering from a whopping hangover. Julie's recovering too, but that's a story I'll let her tell.
			;Two New Featured Articles (and...)
			* ] was promoted to Featured status on ] ]. If you don't know Ms. Goldman, she was a Lithuanian anarchist. Aren't many of those around, really, so having one of our very own is special. She'll be dancing the Cha-Cha on the Promenade deck later tonight.
			* ] was promoted to Featured status on ] ]. Faithful readers may remember ] moaning that we didn't mention this promotion in the last newsletter. Happy now?
			* ] seems to have been ] - he was downgraded to "B class" on ] ]. What a way to end the year!
			* Let's see - we started December with 35 FAs. We added two and dropped one. So somewhere there's a missing FA - has anyone seen one lying around?
			;Jumpaclass Contest winner
			The winner of 2007's ] is {{User|Fluffball70}}! Congratulations, Fluffball! Despite strongly being urged to select ] as the next ], she has chosen ] as her prize: please contribute to its improvement - or ] for this year!
			; Ze ]
			The marathon efforts of Dev920 against her astonishing abilities of procrastination continued this month, and she managed to update the ]'s main articles. Whether she will finally beat her procrastination pixies in submission and update the biographies remains to be seen, but Jeffpw has leapt to the rescue and taken it upon himself to do all our lovely news. ], lend us your goodwill and your eyeballs, and mosey on over to see all Jeff's hard work.
			Also, back in October 2007, ] and ] worked diligently on the "WP:LGBT Random Quote" and "WP:LGBT Random Picture" sections of the portal. They added many new quotes and pictures but, and yes here's the cat's meow friends... you can now use these on your own user pages! To add the "WP:LGBT Random Quote" to your own userpage, use: '''<nowiki>{{Portal:LGBT/Quotes}}</nowiki>''' And to add the "WP:LGBT Random Picture" to your own userpage, use: '''<nowiki>{{Portal:LGBT/Pics}}</nowiki>''' If you'd like to see it in action, check out Allstarecho's userpage for both in action and Benjiboi's ] for the Quotes in action!
			The long, slow race toward FP status continues...
			;Bisexual Awareness Month
			Folks in ] are celebrating Bisexual Awareness Month. For our own wikicelebration, ] suggests we try to bring ] at least up to ] status. Working on the ] article would be encouraged, but do it stealthily - they don't like us to be *too* open.
			;A cunning plan
			In a move sure to bring her fame and fortune at last, {{User|Dev920}} has proposed that an FA buddying system be set up, to help nudge frightened tikes who also happen to write killer ass articles over that initial first ] hurdle. Anyone interested in shepherding duties, or anyone interested in being ] (handcuffs are optional), do drop Dev an RSVP so she can start battering those darned pixies...
			;New members
			Let's give a big '''Love Boat''' welcome to all our new members: ], ], ], ], ], ] ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]. We're glad to have you all aboard!
			;New task-force?
			] has mentioned a desire to work on .. desire. Specifically literature by and about LGBT desire. To facilitate "LGBT Literature" taskforce, there will be ] and ] on the foredeck later in the afternoon. ] if you're interested.
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			== Treaba buna ==
			A bit late perhaps, but great job on getting ] featured. Thanks again, ''']]]''' 23:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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			Congradulations on the promotion of CFR, however late it is. If you have not already done so, I suggest you join the ]. Cheers, ]] ] 23:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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			== LGBT WikiProject Newsletter ==
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			;'''Article Milestones''' ] is a male ] in Irish mythology.]]
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			Things are happening over at Misplaced Pages sister project ''Wikinews''. First, ] became the first openly-Trans reporter to by the Wikinews community. Second, project member ] is going to ] at the invitation of the Rio Convention & Visitor's Bureau. ]
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			;'''Lambda Book Report'''
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			;'''New members'''
			Let's give a big '''LGBT''' welcome to all our new members: {{User|Dylankidwell}}, {{User|Jay*Jay}}, {{User|Ftmichael}}, {{User|AgnosticPreachersKid}}, {{User|Phyesalis}} , {{User|Tullerk}}, {{User|Ravenwhitehorse}}, {{User|TigressofIndia}}, {{User|Yohan euan o4}}, {{User|Masculinity}}, {{User|Renegade Replicant}}, and {{User|Youngwebprogrammer}}!
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			<small>Delivered by SatyrBot around 17:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)</small>
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			== Planeta maimutelor ==
			Uite, stiind ca esti ateu militant, iti trimit link-ul asta, sa te ingrozesti:
			http://www.jurnalul.ro/articole/118803/planeta-maimutelor
			Cand vad cat de bigoti sunt unii, incep sa iti inteleg frustrarea (nu insa si alegerea filozofica a ateismului). ] (]) 08:46, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
			== ], ] ==
			As I expected, the provocations of ] become clearer, and there is an involvement of ] and ]. There is also Bonny, but I'm concerned another edit war will start. ] (]) 10:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
			I also resent the message on ]. I have seen no such message before. At last news, chauvinism (including Romanian one) is not punishable here. Or, if we choose to write it, then we should also say "Russian chauvinist", "Communist extremist", etc. Maybe Mikka should be warned about this policy breach. ] (]) 10:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
			Ok, there's Irpen, too. And I got warned under the blanket "Eastern Europe" decision of the Digwuren ArbCom. By El_C, of course. ] (]) 12:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Am propus articolul pentru a primi statutul de articol de calitate, însă cererea mea a fost repsinsă. Au existat multe obiecţii (chiar multe care nu aveau nicio legătură cu criteriile pentru ]), şi le-am îndeplinit până acum pe toate (mai puţin unele dintre ele care erau păreri personale, şi nu ţineau strict de criteriile pentru articole de calitate). Acest lucru îl poţi vedea ], unde se află conţinutul de la ], la care am adăugat comentariile mele despre ce s-a făcut şi ce nu. A mai rămas doar textul articolului (proza), care după cum relatează ceilalţi utilizatori nu este foarte corect (calitatea limbii engleze folosite este slabă). Am înscris articolul pe pagina ], numai că va dura destul de mult până ce se va găsi un corector ortografic, care să verifice articolul. De aceea dacă ai timp, te invit şi pe tine să faci unele corecturi la articol. Cu mulţumiri, --] (]) 11:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
			== Romanian check ==
			Hello Ronline. Could you please verify ? Thanks. Regards, <strong>]]]</strong> 21:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
			==Rate on quality scale==
			Hi, I am working on ] and trying to expand it.You wrote you are interested in Taiwan so I would like to ask you to watch that article and rate on the scope of Wikiproject China or give me some opinions or comments on this article. This is my first time to contribute on wikipedia.I will be thankful if you could give me more ideas about this article.Thanks] (])04:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Hi. Any thoughts on ]? ] (]) 15:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Hi, you seem to be a fairly prolific editor here at Misplaced Pages. So, I don't understand why you would change 'are' to 'is' in ] if it explicitly states NOT to change it? I would imagine that if there was a note explicitly asking not to change it, then one would question why that was there. Anyways, please see the Talk page next time an inline comment like that is made because a note like that usually suggests that an issue was previously brought up on the Talk page and was subsequently resolved with the inline comment. Thanks. (The relevant discussion can be found at ]) ]&nbsp;<span style="font-size:small;">(])</span> 03:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
			:Replied on my talk page ]&nbsp;<span style="font-size:small;">(])</span> 03:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
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			==Voting==
			Hi! Here is a voting about Bendery/Bender/Tighina: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Bender%2C_Moldova#Statement_of_Title_Solution --] (]) 19:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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			Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! I'm not one to be writing newsletters, but I miss our cruise director, ], and our project is drifting along with a few leaking plugs in the bottom of the boat. Hey, it happens. Every group we join goes through changes. If Misplaced Pages weren't so interesting it wouldn't also be so frustrating sometimes. And vice versa. More than one Wikiproject has ]s blowing through it, but this is one that can't afford to let that happen. Even if you pop in to the ] of the project, you can let us know you're still around.
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			=== WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles ===
			It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main ] article was delisted as a ] last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to ].) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the ] about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled.
			=== Is Pride POV? ===
			We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic ], much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is ]. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on ]? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a ] on the verandah and stop caring?
			=== ] and ]===
			For the love of all that is holy, no ] jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering ] Supervisor ]'s article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of ] and the ]. While it may be accurate, there is a ] regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer...
			===Queer Studies is offensive! ===
			The established branch of study known as ] was brought up as an ] because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors.
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			What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-], on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put <nowiki>]</nowiki> around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the ]. Or you can start with the ], where the ] received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by ]'s wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the ], which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th . The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website .
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			Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the ] and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate.
			===This month's Wiki stars===
			This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) ] became a featured article in May. This is ] since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as ]. I don't care what ] says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think ] would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!)
			===Compulsive hoarding of templates ===
			Once I saw a harrowing episode of ]'s ] where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and ] in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page.
			===] and magazines===
			] suggests we create an article on ], as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (], ], ], ], ], ], and ]). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help.
			A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably '']'', '']'', and '']''.
			=== Mom's nagging for Pride Month ===
			It's June, Pride month. Wear ], stay hydrated, get a ], then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of ]s just got fed the f*ck up by the ] and dragging them all out to the pokey ''again''. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss ]
			=== Fresh faces to brighten our pages ===
			Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] , ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ].
			It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Misplaced Pages.
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			We miss you, ], as well as all the others who have graced our project and are on wiki-breaks or just got fed up with all the nuttiness and went to live their lives. Get your ] and hurry up and come back. --] (]) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
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			Get back to work bitch!
			I'm Ronline's pimp.
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			If you can add a some references and expand the article, than it doesn't need to be deleted, but in it's current state, something should be done.] (]) 21:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
			==GayFest GA Sweeps Review: On Hold==
			As part of the ], we're doing ] to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the ] and I'm specifically going over all of the "Culture and Society" articles. I have reviewed ] and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a ]. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. I have left this message on your talk page since you have significantly edited the article (based on using ). Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix with the assistance of multiple editors. I have also left messages on the talk pages for other editors and a related WikiProject to spread the workload around some. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --] (]) 00:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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			Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! Updates about our latest happenings in the gayest corner of Misplaced Pages.
	Rezultatul actual e că s-a inclus în articol doar o menţiune despre organizaţiile internaţionale care nu recunosc referendumul şi faptul că s-a redus electoratul cu 7% (dar fără menţionarea dubiilor pe care aceasta le ridică), dar nimic despre boicot.
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	Am avut probleme cu Mauco şi Mikkalai şi la un alt articol - ]. Era acolo o propoziţie "As stated by an OSCE document ethnic Moldavians in Transnistria overhelmingly opposed unification with Moldova", dar acel document OSCE pur şi simplu nu conţine o asemenea frază (şi nici nu m-am lămurit pe deplin ce document e, căci linkul dat, la insistenţa mea, de Mauco, este de la state.gov dar nu apare numele celor care au alcătuit documentul). CÎnd i-am cerut documentul OSCE, Mauco a schimbat vorba, a zis că sînt alte studii care arată dorinţa moldovenilor din Transnistria (deci: nu numai a slavilor din regiune, ci chiar a moldovenilor) e ca să nu se unească cu Moldova. Am propus varianta "Some Moldavians in Transnistria oppose the unification with the Republic of Moldova", dar s-a şters. S-a scos doar "overhelmingly", a rămas "Moldavians in Transnistria oppose unification...", iar pagina a fost protejată.
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	Poţi vedea la istoria respectiv discuţia paginii toate astea - ţi le scriu ca să înţelegi cu cel fel de oameni avem de a face.
			An unfortunate effect of a group less active than in the past is that our articles lose integrity. This one is at ] for that reason. The ] is quite active as a result. You have the opportunity to help. This is the corest of our core articles, and it needs some attention because it gets a lot of controversial input from many sides. If you can spare any time to edit the article, please do what you can.
			;'''] is at ]!'''
	După ce trece referendumul eu mă gîndesc să cer o arbitrare în problemele astea cu Mauco (eventual şi cu Mikkalai), tu ce părere ai? Sînt nou la Misplaced Pages, nu prea ştiu cum funcţionează comisiile astea de arbitraj, de aia îţi cer sfatul.--] 07:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
			Soon after we were informed that Homosexuality is being scrutinized, we heard the same for one of our few Featured Articles. As a participant of the Featured Article process, I think this is actually a good thing. The standards for Featured Articles are getting higher with time. But as a member of this project, that means that a few of ours may be de-listed unless someone can swoop in and save them. This one has to do with the designation of homosexuality as a crime in Germany. Most of this article's sources are in German. If anyone has any particular skill in this area, please lend a hand!
			;'''] is at ]! Wtf is going on?'''
	== Votează contra ştergerii articolului ] ==
			I know you folks think I have much experience in a gay bathhouse, and I hate to disappoint you, but I actually do not. I seem like the sort of person who likes to stroll about in a towel. Shocking, no? It appears that ] is single-handedly addressing all the problems with this article at its GA Review. While that's pretty impressive, it's also no doubt exhausting. Can anyone help out there?
			;'''Two ]s and a nominee!'''
	Împreună cu EvilAlex (un tip din Tighina - Transnistria) am creat un articol despre propaganda separatistă a Tiraspolului ]. I s-a cerut ştergerea. Te rog ajută-ne să păstră articolul, votînd contra ştergerii. Destul s-a şters din articolul principal ], Misplaced Pages e plină de propagandă a Tiraspolului, să avem măcar un articol care explică această propagandă--] 18:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
			In what I hope will counter the jolt of re-evaluating three Good or Featured Articles, ] and ] passed as Good Articles, and ] (famous San Francisco oft-raided gay bar) is nominated, all by ]. Rock on, man. You're a machine. Good luck with your nominations. What is it about women that make them gay icons? And are there lesbian icons that aren't lesbians? How about bisexual icons? Am I the only lesbian who reacts with soul-trembling fear at the sight of ]?
			;''']'''
	== European Union Statistics ==
			New WP:LGBT studies member ] has done this cool thing. If you click on that link, you'll see all the articles, categories, templates, and miscellany up for deletion. They're usually there because they're not considered to be ]. That can be a relative concept, and sometimes it has to be argued that topics pertaining to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender issues ''are'' notable.
	G'day. I saw you've edited economic statistics on the ] page. Would you be able to check if this by ] is an accurate change to the statistics. I thought you may have a better chance of verifying this than me. Cheers, ]|] 11:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
			;'''Completely naked women!'''
	==Mihai Maghiaru==
			Ha! Made you look! Even the guys are looking. Gay pioneers ]'s and ]' collection of photographs are up at the . Want to see images of the ? How about , drag queen extraordinaire, and Stonewall Riots participant? Or the contact sheet for ] that showed ? Ok I did mention naked women, and it's true. I found naked pictures of Barbara Gittings. But I scrolled through all of them and you'll have to as well. I'm not that mean, though. . How cute is she?
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	Bine ma daca chiar in asa hal nu vezi ce folos are articolu pune mana si rescrie-l nu-mi zice mie ca are probleme, ai priceput? Sa nu incepi cu aiurelile tale iarasi ca ne trebuie surse idioate da, ca deja mergi prea departe. ''']''' 2 Octombrie 2006
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			It seems a recurring issue which articles to tag, and what to say about a topic that's tagged. Certainly, because an article falls under our scope doesn't necessarily make the person gay. Florida Governor ] has been rumored to be gay in some newspaper accounts. Although we all know ] is supergay, he won't admit it so instead he does the absolutely awfulest anti-gay things on the planet to deflect suspicion. ], the red headed stepchild of the LGBT world, is tagged with an explanation we have yet to decide if we'll keep.
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			In the lurking I do around and about on Wiki, I've long been astounded at the forbearance Benjiboi has for the utterly insane. Perhaps not so much, since the message on Benji's talk page notes frequent absences due to homophobia and transphobia. But it takes some kind of ... ''something'' that I don't have to face the constant anti-gay POV Benji does.
			Benjiboi is a a bit of a ], a ] and also a member of ] in addition to being a LGBT project member. A few of Benjiboi's favorite links for making the wikiverse more fab are:
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			#], a must for anyone redecorating an article.
			#], a wonderful and fully linked essay about sourcing and why we need more and better sources.
			#, which also searches Google books, is a great help in finding reliable sources.
			;'''Member Spotlight: ]'''
	==Ajutor pentru arbitrare==
	Am avut nişte dispute cu ] pe articolul ], în care acesta pretinde că majoritatea moldovenilor din Transnistria susţine regimul separatist de la Tiraspol. După lungi discuţii, am cerut mediere, pe care tipul n-a acceptat-o în 7 zile (n-a spus clar că nu acceptă medierea dar pur şi simplu n-a semnat că acceptă), iar apoi am cerut arbitrare http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Union_of_Moldavians_in_Pridnestrovie
	Pînă acum doar 1 arbitru a acceptat arbitrarea. Ştiu că eşti admin, ai putea convinge şi alţi arbitrii să accepte arbitrarea ca să rezolvăm odată această problemă? De preferinţă, arbitrii să nu fie nici români nici ruşi. De aproape o lună pierd timpul cu articolul ăsta, aş avea alte lucruri mai bune de făcut. Dă-mi măcar un sfat despre cum se procedează în cazuri din astea.--] 16:38, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
			Becksguy didn’t start actively editing until May 2007. His most frequent tasks on Wiki include reverting vandalism to LGBT articles and creating new project-related articles. He comes from New York state, and to prove not all of us are teenagers (ha! I am so totally 15!) he's in his 60s and retired.
	==GDP e 108 BN EUR ]==
			Becksguy considers his biggest triumph on Misplaced Pages so far was a ] in December 2007 for the first-ever newspaper report on what became ], in the '']''. He's also helped save several project-related articles from deletion. His lowest moment here was getting involved in the discussion on a particular terrorism related article, thinking he could help calm the roiled waters on an extremely contentious subject with multiple edit wars and passionate editors.
	BUCHAREST, Romania The Romanian Cabinet on Friday approved a 2007 draft budget, with an estimated deficit of 2.8 percent of gross domestic product, Prime Minister Calin Popescu Tariceanu said.
			Here at WP:LGBT, he creates and improves articles that present notable LGBT related subjects in a fair and balanced way, and tries to include more of the significant alternative sexuality related subjects without being an activist, and works to better source project-related articles.
	The planned deficit reflects a lack of agreement between Romanian authorities and the International Monetary Fund, which urged the government this week to balance the budget to keep a growing current account deficit under control.
	But Tariceanu said the budget deficit was narrow enough to meet EU criteria of 3 percent of GDP and maintain economic stability.
	"Romania had its best economic evolution in decades when we didn't have an agreement with the IMF. We proved that we could manage Romania's economy in a way that is now appreciated by the IMF and by rating agencies which have been improving the country's rating," Tariceaunu said.
	Romania's standby agreement with the IMF collapsed last year due to disagreements on taxation, monetary policy and budget issues, with the government rejecting the IMF's suggestions to raise the value-added tax from to 22 percent from 19 percent to slow down a rapidly rising consumption and balance the budget.
	Romania has a budget surplus of 1.6 percent for the first nine months of 2006, but plans to spend it on infrastructure projects and have a budget deficit of 2.5 percent at the end of the year, a plan criticized by the IMF.
	Tariceanu said the country, which is scheduled to join the European Union in 2007, would contribute €1.1 billion (US$1.38 billion) to the EU budget, and also plans to spend heavily on education, public health and developing its transport infrastructure.
	According to the draft, Romania hopes to receive €2.26 billion (US$2.83 billion) from the EU, but the EU aid depends on which projects the bloc approves for financing.
	'''Romania's gross domestic product is estimated to grow by 6.4 percent in 2007 to reach 381 billion lei (€108 billion; US$135.3 billion), with inflation estimated to slow to 4.5 percent from about 5.7 percent this year.'''
	After deep recessions in the 1990s, Romania's economy has been growing rapidly since 2000, with the GDP expected to grow by 7 percent this year.
	http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/13/business/EU_FIN_ECO_Romania_Budget.php
			On Misplaced Pages as a whole, he says, "I think we need to learn better what processes work for a massive collaborative project. Some of what worked well for a more informal small project doesn’t scale up well. Process is not as important when the participants know each other. We need to get more of the current members to be more active. If more members were energized, the project would be able to accomplish more. We should be, in effect, the smaller and included Misplaced Pages for LGBT related subjects. Overall, I wish we could focus more on content creation and improvement, and less on vandal fighting."
	==Violare 3RR de Mauco==
			;'''Fresh faces to brighten our pages'''
	Am făcut raport pentru 3RR violation de William Mauco
			Welcome to all of our new members!: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]
			If you have a question about anything, drop your question on ]. We'll do our best to answer.
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	Ai putea rezolva să se aplice regulile Misplaced Pages în acest caz? În alte 2 cazuri mai vechi cu acelaşi personaj (raportate tot de mine), a scăpat numai cu avertisment , în timp ce Greier a primit ban o săptămînă pentru 3RR. Aş vrea să cred că la Misplaced Pages regulile se respectă şi sînt aceleaşi pentru toţi.--] 20:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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			''"A ] decision in 1958 reversed a 1956 ruling by a federal district court that U.S. postal authorities were correct in prohibiting the mailing of the ]'s ] magazine. The lower court had ruled that ''ONE'' was not protected by the ] because the magazine's contents 'may be vulgar, offensive, and indecent even though not regarded as such by a particular group ... because their own social or moral standards are far below those of the general community ... Social standards are fixed by and for the great majority and not by and for a hardened or weakened minority.'"'' - Michael Bronski in ''Pulp Friction'', 2003
	: A check of the edit record of the article in question will show that the 4 edits are not reverts. They are different, each one with an improvement over the other. They take into account a continuing discussion and critique in Talk. As such, they are not 3RR but the normal editing and evolution of an article based on feedback from others. - ] 02:04, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
			Thanks for being weak and having lowered standards with me. --] (]) 00:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
	In a follow-up, I noticed some highly suspect and unethical behavior by MariusM in this article, in clear violation of ] which as you know is official policy. Among other things, it deals with ] and states that meat puppets are treated similarly to sock puppets. They should not be solicited to circumvent things like 3RR restrictions which are in place for a reason. Quote: "It is considered '''highly inappropriate or unacceptable''' to advertise Misplaced Pages articles that are being debated in order to attract users with known views and bias, in order to strengthen one side of a debate." Nevertheless, this is what ] did here: at 22:59. He wrote in Romanian so English-only readers would not understand the request. He explained that he needed ] to delete a paragraph so that he (MariusM) wouldn't be caught for ]. Then, at 23:25, EvilAlex did as he was told with a misleading edit comment. Minutes later, at 23:31, MariusM then returned and deleted the evidence of his request, overwriting it with a meaningless comment on something else and a misleading edit log entry. - ] 02:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
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			==Vitoria-Gasteiz==
	::Mauco, you enjoy playing with meatpuppets . Don't pretend you are virgin. You are one of my teachers about how to work on Misplaced Pages, as I have little experience here.--] 08:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
			May be do we need your comment on this ]?? Thank you. ] <small>]</small> 03:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
	::Observ la tine, Ronline, comportament de politician. Nu te interesează principiile Wikipediei ci crearea unei imagini proprii de "moderat", care să-ţi aducă voturi la alegeri de administrator. Din cauza nerespectării principiilor, unii editori valoroşi s-au retras din Misplaced Pages, şi e păcat.--] 09:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
	:::Rugămintea către Alex era '''după''' ce făcusem raportul 3RR, pentru a repara ceea ce Mauco stricase încălcînd 3RR. N-am folosit la adresa lui Mauco expresia "vandal rus propagandist KGB" ci doar "Vandal care refuză medierea", ceea ce e corect dat fiind că refuză medierea la ] (şi la acest articol am folosit expresia). Încearcă să nu te bizui pe zvonuri ci pe fapte--] 09:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
			== Note ==
	I take offense at all of these accusations. Please check my editing record and then point out specific errors, instead of labelling me with smear. Being labelled a KGB propagandist is particularly hurtful and not based in fact. It is also in violation of the Misplaced Pages policy against personal attacks, ]. If this continues, I will simply delete all of these entries and may be forced to report the users who make them. - ] 15:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
	:Tipic ] argument. Mauco, if you claim I labelled you as KGB propagandist, please provide proofs. There are other users who arrive at this conclusion, I don't know if they are right. You claim you understand Romanian, than you should understand also the message I wrote to Ronline.--] 09:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
			I posted a question on ]. Please have a look. Thank you. ] (]) 00:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
	== Your sig ==
			==Image copyright problem with Image:PC logo small.png==
	Please remove the images from your signauture per ]. Thank you. ] 00:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
			Thanks for uploading ]. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of ], but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets ]. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an ] linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check
			:* That there is a ] on the image's description page for each article the image is used in.
	==Your message==
			:* That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.
	I have responded to your 3RR query on the Administrators noticeboard. I was initially mistaken about a small piece of information, but I hope you can see that my edits from there on have altered my previous wording. Thank you. ]] 10:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
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	:Any case where there is involved a manipulation or change in available information is going to be a tricky one. I'd say it would be much easier to cool things down at this stage by discussing and avoiding problems with the available information. ]] 10:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
			This is an automated notice by ]. For assistance on the image use policy, see ]. --] (]) 05:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
	Hey, thanks for contacting me! I'm so proud... my talk page has been so lonely :(
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	I don't see a previous version, so no block (I see one insertion, that being the previous version, and three reverts). The changes, however, are insubstantial, in my opinion, and had he inserted the information again in that or a similar form I certainly would've. As it stands, the situation is over and I'd content myself with "YOU! YOU! Stop that business ''right now'' and get back to constructive editing!" I also agree with Centrx's stance, which is that they're both being difficult and if one was blocked, they both should be. Basically, you're doing fine, keep up the good work :) ] ] 07:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
	: Ab-so-''lutely''! ] ] 07:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
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	Am primit şi eu 3RR report de la Mauco . El a încălcat regula de 3 ori şi a scăpat, îs curios dacă eu voi fi blocat la prima abatere, ca să mi se confirme impresia că la Misplaced Pages se aplică dublu standard. Lui Mauco i-ai luat apărarea, sînt curios dacă-mi iei apărarea şi mie, domnule politician. Cum n-am primit atenţionare prealabilă, cred că nu se califică pentru blocare conform regulilor Wiki.--] 09:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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	:Am reţinut punctul tău de vedere: "I do, however, issue a strong warning to User:EvilAlex and User:MariusM". Bineînţeles, nu şi pentru Mauco (care e la a 4-a încălcare a 3RR). EvilAlex n-a avut nici un raport contra lui într-un an de lucru la Misplaced Pages, vrei să-i dai warning fără să se fi făcut raport întîi. Nu crezi că-ţi încalci atribuţiile (sau ţi s-a urcat la cap funcţia de admin?)? Fă întîi raport contra lui EvilAlex, dacă crezi necesar, şi lasă alt administrator să hotărască (dar informează şi partea în cauză). Nu fă pe prostul că acum ai descoperit mesajele dintre mine şi EvilAlex, ele au fost discutate cu 1 zi înainte în celălalt raport 3RR despre Mauco, în care am explicat contextul. Cui foloseşte ca din articolele despre Transnistria să fie eliminată singura persoană care chiar s-a născut acolo (mai precis la Tighina, dar şi aceasta e stăpînită de Transnistria) şi a cărui familie încă locuieşte acolo? Wikipediei, în nici un caz.--] 12:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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	:P.S. Consider folosirea limbii române în user page-uri ceva absolut firesc. N-am de gînd să mă las intimidat de şovinismul anglo-saxon. Nu am văzut să existe o politică oficială a Wikipediei englezeşti împotriva altor limbi pe user page-uri şi cred că doar userul respectiv are dreptul să se declare nemulţumit.--] 12:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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			<font color=red>'''Wake up WP:LGBT! It's time to kick in gear and get some things done!'''</font>
	:: The point was not the communication in Romanian. The point was the switching between English and Romanian. When you talk teaming up on pages like the now-deleted ], when you did your to-do list together, when you solicited 3RR skirting, and when you agreed to write emails back and forth; all of that was in Romanian. Then when you talk about more innocent and benigh subjects, all of that was in English. When you covered up the Romanian-language langauge collussion, just a few minutes after the act, this was blanked by overwriting it bland, non-committal comment to each other in English.<br>
	:: It is behavior like this which automatically would make anyone think that something not-so-Kosher is going on, and assume bad faith, contrary to the normal Wikiprinciple of ]. All of that could have been avoided by being open and consistent. For instance, just communicate in English (since this is English wikipedia, and you have to understand that most admins and other users are not familiar with Romanian). Or, if you prefer your own native language, then at least stick to it. What makes the alarm bells ring is not the use of Romanian, but the suspicious switch between Romanian for the "iffy" measures and the use of English for the rest. - ] 13:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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			;'''''Wake up!'''''
	Thanks for reverting the vandalism (LBGT section) on ]. We've had a problem with one guy very obstinately vandalising that section for months. I also replied to your vote on the ]. --] 18:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
			I say this to myself as much as I say it to all of us. I work a lot by myself or with individual editors who spend time at ]. It seems on November 5 a fog was lifted off my brain that helped me realize that we have massive potential in this project to get things done. Take this allegory, for instance: ''On Wednesday, Nov. 5, 1980, my 10th-grade American history teacher started class by unfurling The New York Times. She pointed to its triple banner headline: “Reagan Easily Beats Carter; Republicans Gain in Congress; D’Amato and Dodd are Victors.” “Save this paper,” she told us. “This is the start of a whole new era.”''
			It definitely seems a start to a whole new era now. If planets align correctly to remind us that whatever advances we may have made in electing what appears to be an ] in the US, the moons that revolve around those planets also serve to illustrate it's not that simple. Florida, Arizona, and California all appear to have banned ]. As someone who was married in California and lives in Florida, this is particularly poignant. We seem to be at the juncture of two converging paths. If we maximize our efforts and take the right ones, we might just be able to affect some change for ourselves.
	At the FAC page for Belgrade, you opposed because of copyright problems with some of the photos and their layout. I (believe I have) fixed both problems, would you see the article and comment again? ] 21:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
			;'''The power of Misplaced Pages and ]'''
	==Vot==
			Though what we do is an interesting hobby for some, we have the power to make a difference. California's ballot initiative to ban gay marriage was a fierce fight. It's being challenged right now, but just look at how Misplaced Pages played a role in that: in October 2008, 360,238 people read its article. On November 5, an astounding . I commend the editors who work on that article—both those who support and oppose it. A look at the talk page shows a concerted effort to keep it civil and accurate.
	M-as bucura daca ai lua pozitie in alegerile de admin care tocmai au loc pe wiki romana. --] 20:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
			;'''What can we do?'''
	==Anti-racism campaign==
			How do you fight ignorance? With information. That's what Misplaced Pages is for. This project is overwhelming with '''8,576 articles''' in its scope. We can continue to work piecemeal as we have in the past, or we can focus on goals. These are examples of areas we can concentrate on.
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	Hi Ronline, being aware of your desire to create and develop articles related to diversity and minorities in Romania, I'd wonder whether you could somehow manage to transform this () campaign, aimed to rid Romanian football of racism, into a valid Misplaced Pages article. Examples of existing articles regarding anti-racist initiatives in the world of football include ] and ]. It'd be great if you could look into it, seeing how you seem to wish to raise awareness of minority-issues and promote tolerance in Romania, and considering that this campaign has already received some attention nationwide. Thanks. - ] 16:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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	:Thanks, the article turned out great. Would be great to have it in Romanian as well, sooner or later, but only when you have time of course. - ] 09:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
			There are more than 8,000 articles to work on. Can we build a list of priorities? Can we build enough enthusiasm to work on these? What if we had editors who oversaw progress in these areas and reported to the talk page or in the newsletter? Surely someone here wants to report on the progress of sex articles.
	==Probleme cu 3RR==
	Iar te deranjez Ronline. Am făcut azi alte 2 rapoarte pentru încălcarea 3RR de Mauco, la 2 articole diferite şi
			Tony Perkins (]) from the conservative ''']''' The Republican Party is without direction. What's going to take the place of a moderate voice will not be pleasant to our ears. Watching and improving articles of subjects that have opposed gay rights in the past will be of vital importance very soon, I predict.
	Administratorul rus Alex Bakharev l-a absolvit pe Mauco în amîndouă cazurile.
			;'''But WP:LGBT is not a very active project'''
	Primul caz (Sheriff) Nu-l blochează pe Mauco, spune doar ca a protejat articolul. Pretinde că amîndoi am încălcat 3RR, de fapt doar Mauco a încălcat. A băgat ; în DIFFurile incriminatoare, ca să nu mai funcţioneze legăturile.
			All we can do is start somewhere. The first step is answering this newsletter on the project talk page. Join in the discussion.
			;'''More things we can do'''
	Al 2-lea caz (Transnistria) Iarăşi îl iartă pe Mauco pe motiv că a protejat articolul (da, l-a protejat, dar în varianta care-i convine lui Mauco). Iarăşi bagă ; în DIFFuri ca să nu mai funcţioneze legăturile. Mauco a eliminat din comentariul meu aşa zise atacuri personale , dar de fapt n-am folosit vreun limbaj nepotrivit, am spus că e “edit warrior” (dovedit prin desele 3RR rapoarte), că “is pushing his POV” pro-expansionismul rus (ceea ce e adevărat) şi, cel mai important, că e colaborator al publicaţiei on-line “Tiraspol Times” ceea ce e 100% adevărat – vezi - de altfel a fost un articol în publicaţia britanică "The Economist" despre eforturile regimului de la Tiraspol de a-şi face propagandă pe internet şi cred că Tiraspol Times şi Mauco sînt parte din acest efort. Dacă doreşti îţi dau informaţii mai amănunţite.
			* Give out more ''']s''', and let each other know that what they're doing is valued.
			* Create a guide to '''stave off burnout''', because editors in this project get burned out faster than others. There are many hills to climb.
			* Bring back the '''monthly collaboration project'''.
			* Participate in LGBT '''Peer reviews'''.
			* Get familiar with the characteristics of '''Good Articles''' and get our top priority articles to ].
			* Keep our ] and ] '''updated'''.
			* Use the Newsletter, Moni3! You can suggest what to send out in the newsletter, too!
			* Offer research materials, copy editing, ideas, and '''support''' to '''your fellow editors'''.
			* Keep the '''] informed of problems''' and discussions we should know about.
			;'''Proposal: Put Importance Levels on articles'''
	Deci, numai azi Mauco a încălcat 3RR de 2 ori şi nu e blocat. A mai încălcat regula de 4 ori şi tot fără urmări. Ce părere ai? (mă interesează inclusiv părerea ta despre introducerea de ; în DIFFuri, ca să nu mai funcţioneze legăturile). Poţi interveni peste Bakharev şi face regulile respectate? Eu ştiu că eşti alofil declarat, dar fă excepţie de faptul că sînt român, fă-ţi treaba de admnistrator de a face respectate regulile Misplaced Pages (vezi că ruşii nu se sfiesc să ia parte în disputa asta). Iar articolul “Transnistria” te rog adu-l la forma de dinainte de intervenţia lui Mauco, să fie blocat în forma aceea, nu în forma dorită de Mauco, pînă mai discutăm pe talk page (mereu mi se zice să discut pe talk page, dar am discutat în prostie, vezi talk pageurile respective, care sînt mult mai lungi decît articolele propriuzise).
			If this was decided long before I was a member, maybe it's time to revisit it. Other WikiProjects, such as ] determine that some subjects have an importance category: Top, High, Mid, Low, or None (undetermined). If we decide that our most core articles, it might help to organize which articles to address first. Top importance, for example, would be ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], for example. High importance would be ], ], ], ], or ], and so on. This can be a matter of discussion, or perhaps we could have someone in charge of determining these levels for all the articles we have tagged.
			;'''So, like ], ]'''
	Raportul 3RR din 23 octombrie în încă "pending", dacă nu vrei să te bagi peste Bakharev poţi face o blocare pe raportul ăla.
			The editors I have admired in the past, who have done great things alone, and who I think can help us all do extraordinary things now: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] (I ''will'' marry you), ], ], ], ] (I know you're out there), ], and my very ] copy editor, ].
			These are the editors I've seen working (and I know I'm forgetting a few). There's more of you out there I haven't seen. Some of you are new. We need all of you. Please help.
	Între timp observ că diferiţi administratori ruşi consideră că eu sînt problema --] 03:13, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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	ce conteaza daca el e cu gayyyiii la fel l-a sustinut si pe Nodu, pai de ce nu ii blochezi mai Ronline? Ai si uitat cine te-a ajutat sa ajungi Admin? Cine te-a propus? :) Treci la fapte M. si treci peste orgoliile tale si apuca-te si fa ceva util pentru Romania. ] 20:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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			Miami, January 18, 1977 after the gay rights ordinance was passed: ''While ] and the others were creating the beginnings of the repeal effort, (gay activists) Basker, Campbell, Kunst, and the other (gay rights) ordinance supporters congratulated themselves on their success and then quickly disbanded... There was no organized recognition or celebration of the victory. As one activist remembered, "We just went home." They had little idea of the battle that was before them.'' - Fred Fejes in ''Gay Rights and Moral Panic'', 2008
	:Scuză-mă că te-am pus în situaţii dificile, dar dacă eşti admin poartă-ţi crucea! De acord cu ţelul de a avea o enciclopedie bună, dar cred că Mauco e un obstacol în calea acestui ţel. Dacă şi alţi utilizatori - cazul lui EvilAlex, dar mulţi alţii - sînt contra lui Mauco e fiindcă şi-au dat seama (de altfel, sînt şi nişte utilizatori baltici , cred că o să renunţ la a discuta cu românii şi mă orientez pe baltici, sînt oameni mult mai serioşi şi îi interesează adevărul despre Transnistria mai mult decît pe români). "Încearcă să rezolvi problema prin discuţie", mă sfătuieşti, dar ai avut curiozitatea să te uiţi pe talk page-urile despre Transnistria, Sheriff (company), Renewal (Transnistria) şi altele pe această temă? Am discutat cu Mauco de îmi vine rău, repetă mereu aceleaşi argumente, e un trol. Acum vreo 10 zile i-am scris un mesaj lui EvilAlex '''după''' ce Mauco încălcase 3RR, să repare ce Mauco stricase prin încălcarea 3RR. A folosit mesajul ăla ca să scape de pedeapsă la 3RRul respectiv, dar mă întreb: în viitorul cincinal are Mauco dreptul să încalce 3RR de cîte ori vrea şi se poate scuza mereu cu acel mesaj dintre mine şi EvilAlex? Deocamdată scorul e 6-1 pentru Mauco, adică el a încălcat 3RR de 6 ori, eu 1 dată, iar ieri a fost 2-0 pentru el. Aşadar, nu sîntem amîndoi la fel de vinovaţi (3RR-ul meu e vechi, nu e ceva recent). Eu încerc să respect regulile, dar văd că la Wiki respectarea regulilor nu e la modă. "Administratorii care au comentat la 3RR sînt toţi foarte competenţi în domeniu". Păi ce comentarii au fost la cele 2 încălcări ale 3RR de ieri ale lui Mauco? Doar comentariul lui Alex Bakharev că amîndoi am încălcat 3RR, pe care apoi singur l-a şters că a văzut că nu e adevărat. Repet: ieri, singurul care a încălcat 3RR a fost Mauco (de 2 ori), nu mă lua cu comentariile la 3RR-ul de acum 10 zile. Ca să nu se mai întîmple probleme de 3RR trebuie să se blocheze cei vinovaţi. Apropo: pentru încălcarea mea de 3RR veche eu singur m-am suspendat de la Misplaced Pages mai mult de 24 ore (am pomenit asta la raportul 3RR respectiv). Nu te preocupa de imaginea României, ţi-am scris că nu-ţi cer să acţionezi ca român ci ca administrator la Misplaced Pages. Nu mi-ai răspuns ce părere ai despre a lui Bakharev de a băga cîte o ";" în DIFF-urile cu încălcarea 3RR de Mauco, astfel încît lincurile să nu mai funcţioneze cum trebuie (le-am reparat eu mai apoi)--] 00:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
			Don't go home yet, please. --] (]) 00:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
	'''English:''' Ti-am raspuns pe pagina lui Marius. Nu vreau sa te conving sa faci ceva impotriva convingerilor tale. Dar felul in care tu lipsesti si te eschivezi de la datoria ta fata de noi ceilalti ma enerveaza. Fa ce vrei, nu vreau sa te conving de nimic. O sa apelam la altii mai binevoitori, ca la tine nu se poate. Ia-o ca pe un repros, ti-a spus foarte bine Arthur pe tine mai mult de intereseaza gay-ii decat ce e legat de Romania. Bonaparte
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	'''Romanian:''' I replied to you on Marius' page. I don't want to convince you to do something against your conscience/beliefs. But the way in which you try to dodge away from you duty to us makes me angry. Do what you want, I don't want to convince you to anything. We will appeal to others who are more benevolent/willing, because with you it's not possible. Take this as a reproach, Arthur told you very well when he said that you are more interested in gays than that linked to Romania. Bonaparte
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	:'''Romanian:''' Salut. N-am cum să-l blochez pe Mauco fiind că ar fi văzut ca o acţiune tendenţioasă. Plus că rolul meu aici nu este să îi "apăr pe români" la orice cost. În orice caz, ajutorul meu la "cauza românească" se vede prin alte feluri, mai paşnice, precum dezvoltarea articolelor despre sistemul de transport din Bucureşti (doar Bucureştiul şi Londra au articole aşa de complete în acest domeniu) şi chiar articole despre minorităţile rome şi LGBT ("gay-ii"), care spun lumii că în România există respect pentru minorităţi şi deci că suntem o societate tolerantă, deschisă şi "europeană". Pentru mine, asta ajuta românii mult mai mult decât polemici şi edit-war-uri despre Transnistria, care multe cu România nu prea are. ]] ''']''' ] 13:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
			==You may be able help me with this==
	:'''English:''' Hi. I can't block Mauco since this will be seen as a tendentious/hostile action. In addition, my role here is not to "protect Romanians" at all costs. In any case, my help to "the Romanian cause" is manifested in other, more peaceful ways, such as the development of articles related to Bucharest's transport system (only Bucharest and London have such complete articles in this field) and even articles about the Roma and LGBT minorities ("gays"), which tell the world that in Romania there exists respect for minorities and thus that we are a tolerant, open and "European" society. For me, this helps Romanians a lot more than polemics and edit-wars about Transnistria, with which Romania does not have many associations. ]] ''']''' ] 13:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
			Hi, Ro, nice to see you're back. I have a query you may help with. I'm not familiar with the finer points of electoral systems and how they are paralleled by Romania, but, after going through several pages, I concluded that Romania's new system was most likely a variant of ]. I urged those contributing to the 2008 election article to add this info or at least look it up. The variant I wrote down on the talk page was more or less copied into the article by another user, whereas a third (who was apparently stalking me over stuff in some other article) strongly objected to the terminology and claimed that I was wrong. For all I know (and care) he may even have been right. However, the text in the article was then modified to this: "] mixed member system". So fine, I'm wrong, but then why on earth would they keep the text, avoid a specific link, and link to a vague article? ''If'' I was right the first time, why not just keep the link to "]"? ''If'' I was wrong the first time, why is it that they modified the link to something vague, but kept the text very much as it was?
			Anyway, if there's anything you can do to sort this out, I'd greatly appreciate it. And if it turns out I was right the first time, could you please modify the link back to what it was? Thanks. ] (]) 02:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
	::'''Romanian:''' Salut Ronline. A fost un semnal sa incepi sa-i ajuti asa cum ai promis. Cred ca esti destul de inteligent ca sa-i poti ajuta fara sa fie vazuta actiunea ta ca si una tendentioasa. Si Romania are cu paginile de acolo, pentru ca exista o minoritate, cea romaneasca pe care nu o apara nimeni. Cum ai tu grija de minoritatile de la noi, de ce nu ai apara chiar romanii nostri de acolo? Oriunde sunt romani ei trebuie protejati.--] 15:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
			:Many, many thanks. Hope you keep in touch: I'm sure I speak for all of Romanian wikipedians (the ones who matter) when I say that we have been missing your great input and contributions. I was going to ask your opinions on several other stringent matters, but I myself have been backlogged for a long while and not so keen on getting involved in the "capital issues". If you have the time, please look over ] and the corresponding talk page - I can't begin to summarize all the problems raised there, I we haven't yet summarized them all, and the debate involves one of the new and most destructive trolls (who has previously ran amok on the article) - so I'd understand if you should want to postpone it. It could however be something within our common areas of interest. Cheers, ] (]) 06:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
	::'''English:''' Hi Ronline. It was signal to start helping them as you promised. I think you're intelligent enough to help them without this being seen as a tendentious action. And Romania is related to those pages, because there exists a minority, the Romanian one, whom no-one protects. In the same way that you take care of our minorities, why don't you protect our Romanians from over there ? Everywhere where there are Romanians, thye must be protected. --] 15:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC), Translation by Ronline.
			==Re-ordering of Template:Same-sex unions==
	:::Ronline may I remind you that this is English wikipedia. On a personal note: your communication with banned troll is disgusting. `'] 18:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
			Hey, I just saw that you re-organised the mentioned template. Although I added the categories ] and ] I have to agree that it's indeed too much clutter. However, I do think it is relavant to the table since both articles give an overview of the specific rights per country of both continents. Is there a way, without creating too much clutter in the table, to include them in some way? Take care, ] (]) 12:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
	::::I am not giving you any lessons. I am saying my opinon that your behavior is disgusting. Encouraging vicious trolls who do not show any remorse is deplorable. You may have al free speech you need, just as I have my right to exercise my option of free speech to say ]. And if it is your will to disagree with community, then let community keep in mind that there are nationalistic troll feeders among admins. `'] 18:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
			== FYI: New project AdminWatch (working title) ==
	Making no judgement of the stuff above, I also request the conversation in English Misplaced Pages to be conducted in English. If Bonny needs to contact Ronline in private, he can use "email this user" button. I request this translated. I trust Ronline to translate this himself and there is no need to ask for a third party translation. --] 05:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
	:You are preaching to deaf. Disrespect and disregard of community among quite few romanians is unbeatable. `'] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
	::And what about you miky? you started your anti-romanian capaign more then one year ago...community will bann you..
			Hi, only found out today about your project ], which got off to a good start (I read through the project page and the discussion page) but faltered on the way to completion. A new project that a bunch of us are working on is ] (working title). Please feel free to drop by at any time and weigh in with your thoughts and your experience.--] (]) 22:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
	==Terminology==
	Ronline, haven't you designed the articles for various ethnic communities in Romania to include mentions of their immediate successors? I mean, isn't "Albanians of Romania" synonymous with "Albanian Romanian" for all ''logical'' purposes? does wikipedia ''ever'' separate the two terms? Dpotop has since been creating an article on "Greek Romanian" separate from "Greeks of Romania" (I have since redirected it, but I'm bound to mmet a protest). Please, let's establish clear criteria once and for all, and not toy around with the obvious - I especially resent such measures because users who initiate them do not even bother with consistency (as it is, "Greeks of Romania" features both criteria, because all he has created was a pitiful stub!). ] 14:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
	:Thank you. On the issue of minorities: I do not know if the mention of separating the two terms within the article is stringent (consider that people who are simply ''married'' to an xRomanian have represented xRomanians in Parliament...), and it may turn out to be self-evident to Anglo-Saxon eyes (and I personally am not convinced that it is a stringent requirement from even the rather whimsical Romanian perspective); it could, however, be referred to in the lead.
	:On the issue of Gret-Greater, I agree with that (as I was just telling Dpotop). Of course, the name of the party would not implicate the notion in the least, and we would have to explain the discrepancy on the party page (or both pages). Currently, both articles give "Great" as an alternative. ] 11:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
	== Please evaluate an edit ==		== Roma as a Romani group ==
			There are discussion for the creation of an article about Roma as a Romani group, but there are some problems about the best way to do that. Can you take a look, if you have the time, please? The discussion are mostly at ]. Thanks! ] (]) 10:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
	Hi, Ron. Dahn, consider of an anonymous to be a serious personal attack and asks me to investigate. I do not read Romanian. Is it really a personal attack? Is it a serious one? Is it involved the dispute over ]? ] 23:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
	:Thanks, Ron. Dahn thinks that the anonim is ]. I gave Timor a warning and think that it is enough at the moment since it is his first civility offense as far as I can tell. ] 23:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
			== Admins on ro.wp ==
			Hi. You've got some ] for this week :D Cheers. --] (]) 22:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
	Hi. Though nobody asked my version of the facts I'll try to expose it briefly. Several weeks ago ] and I engaged in a debate whether ] art suffers from "undue weight". The exchanges have been animated, yet never uncivil. Then, Dahn accused me of being ]. I am not Azotlicht, nor am I any other user. Few days ago, Dahn displayed a from his archives, accusing me of being the author. I am not the author of this personal attack.
			:Hi, Ron. Related to what Gicu wrote above, please check your talk page on ro.wp. Cheers. — ]] 14:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
	Since it appears that in my case the burden of proof has been reversed and accusations are taken for granted, it's me who has to proof innocence. Therefore I am courteosly asking for a checkuser in both cases: Azotlichid and "Cosma from LA". After reading the latter I can understand why Dahn hates me. However, it was not me, for God's sake ! Being a Romanian and being engaged in a debate with Dahn doesn't make me automatically suspect of attacking him personally. Since Dahn is often involved in conflicts, following the logic of accusation = condemnation, I risk to be the culprit of every further "disruptive behavior" against Dahn. Thank you, --] 16:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
	==Admin abuse on meta, any suggestions?==
	Hello Ronline,
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	One admin (I presume), ] has blocked me on meta for one day. He is POV -pushing some nonsense over the fact that the Moldovan nation is in the process of merging with the Romanian one (sic!), and that the Moldovan language is very-very different from Romanian. You can see it here ]. I tried to edit and explain what's wrong, but the guy simply blocked me. I think he's trying to push some Montenegrin wikipedia, and is drafting wikipedia policies allowing it.
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	It's the first time I'm blocked, and it's probably a case of blatant POV-pushing by an admin on meta on policy issues.
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	Can you advise me? Can you do smth against this guy?
	If I didn't understand his position well, tell me and I'll try again. :/
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			== Same-sex marriage in California ==
	:: Thanks. ] 10:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
			I read on an earlier talk page that you too agreed that only MA and CT should be listed under same-sex marriage, yet a user keeps putting CA back with despite the fact that the marriages are no longer able to be performed, only recognized. I don't believe that CA has any place there, but the user seems to think otherwise. How do we resolve this or make a compromise? I honestly find its inclusion in the category to be confusing. ] (]) 02:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
			== Reverting cut-and-paste moves ==
	Another remark: I'm still blocked on meta. Millosh blocked me on nov 14, with a message saying he blocked me for one day. One day passed, and I'm still blocked. is the block log. It's interesting to see that he blocked another guy on Nov 13, on the same "Montenegrin wikipedia" issue, and the other was unblocked immediately. ] 10:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
			Next time you find that someone has done many cut-and-paste moves, don't revert them with the page move function. Instead, just do a normal revert. When you reverted these moves with the move page function, like at ], you deleted all of the page history before January 2009. I only found out about this problem while checking out my old deleted contributions. I'm currently in the process of cleaninng the page history messes up. ''']'''] 03:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
	===How does a policy draft get adopted?===
	I refrained from interfering with Millosh for now. I don't have the means: the guy seems to be ready to do anything, and he's got the support of the "language committee" guys, most of whom push obscure languages. It's a sort of "coalition of the willing". :)
			==Re:Rio Grande do Sul==
			Hi, Ronline. There is much confusion between gay and activists here in Brazil and certainly those of Rio Grande do Sul are the most prominent, but misunderstand what happened (and have more access to the press than in other regions of Brazil). And unfortunately the news of the BBC contain large errors (possibly also the journalist did not understand very well what was happening) ...
			Federal law in Brazil (Law 6015 of 1973, article 127) provides that "The Registration of Titles and Documents will be made a transcript ... of particular instruments, to evidence the obligations of any conventional value. " Based on this article, valid throughout Brazil, homosexual unions are being recorded, as if a contract on any trading arm etc. As some registrars felt that the homosexual union can not be registered to go against the Constitution, refused it. The Court of Rio Grande do Sul in 2004 ordered the registers that record such contracts, based on the above article. This happened in other parts of Brazil also, but there was so much news in the press. The contracts are recorded even in areas where no such order of the court, because many registrars never refused the registration or have been doing so since that decision in Rio Grande do Sul (in the city of São Paulo, had similar decision well before that, in september,2002, see http://www.irtdpjsaopaulo.com.br/1Vara.UniaoEstavel.htm, in portuguese). Two other states have the same administrative order to register: Roraima (http://www.athosgls.com.br/noticias_visualiza.php?contcod=24661) and Piauí (http://www.meionorte.com/noticias,tj-pi-obriga-cartorios-a-registrar-uniao-homossexual,49632.html). See that the law is federal. The fact that some states clarify that contracts must be registered does not mean that the contracts in other states can not be recorded. In many places the contracts are recorded because there is no doubt that really can be.
			But the contract can not compel a third person to do something (and unrelated to the peace courts, which celebrate marriage, which are recorded in another public registry). The order (not law, only an administrative order of the court) does not require judges and judges of peace, only the records that record all such contracts. The great mistake in the BBC report is referring to "judge of peace" which are those that celebrate marriage. There is no rule about that in Brazil. And as Article 22 of the Constitution, only the Union may legislate on civil rights (which includes the right to family, marriage, inheritance etc.).
			See the old and the current figure. At first (left), only the Rio Grande do Sul (the southern most state of Brazil) appears as allowing civil union; in the new one (right), all Brazil appears. That seems much more correct, then the Brazilian law is the same and these contracts are recorded in various parts of Brazil.
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			Thus, I expect the text to make clear that the legislation on marriage or civil union is the same anywhere in Brazil, as already occurs with the final figure. Thanks, ] (]) 13:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
			===New response===
			Hello, Ronline! I want to response your question to Luiz30 (in fact, he has writed to you because I ask him. I am graduated in Law (sorry my poor English...) and I know reasonably about gay rights in Brazil. I have problems with my account here (I want only “Jur” as pt.wiki, but I didn’t have sucess).
			Yes, all gay couples can register their partnership anywhere in Brazil. In three states (RS, RR and PI), and in São Paulo city), the ] must to register. In other places, there is no explicit order (I guess). This does not mean that the civil law notary do not respect the law (which is federal). In such states, if the ] refuses to register it, he is committing an administrative violation. In locals where there is nothing written, the ] interpret the law, but if anyone disagree, he can contest him. In Rio de Janeiro, I found where the ] explain the same-sex civil union can be register there.
			In Brazil, a private agent similar to ] can register contracts, any contracts. In Brazil, the Public Registers Act, (Act 6015 of 1973) lists several kind of notary where you can register something: Registration of Real Estate, Civil Registration (births, marriages, deaths), Registration of Legal Entities (associations, foundations, small businesses ) and Registry of Titles and Documents (where you register any other type of contract). There are thousands of such ] in Brazil, known as "notary". The people in general does not know the difference between different sort of notary. But they are all headed by individuals (which is subject to public contest), but the registers are public (when the owner leaves, he must pass the entire collection to the next responsible for the registers). An official marriage (between man and woman) is registered in the Civil Registry, but these contracts (same sex) are registered in the Registry of Titles and Documents (for generics contracts), but all these registers are the responsibility of an individual who receives a delegation of government (civil law notary).
			What rights have the partners? '''None!''' It is only a contract between two capable people, which may create rights and obligations between themselves. Register it in office means that everyone must recognize that union exists; none can say “it don’t exist”. But that does not give automatic right to inheritance, tax advantages, immigration rights, social security. It can not generate obligations to third parties (only the obligation to recognize that the contract exists).
			This contract is not similar to the PACS in France or Portugal, because it don’t creates rights against third parties. These contracts are registered in a generic civil law notary where, for example, I can register a love letter or the owners of two dogs can register the marriage of their dogs ... The Registry of Titles and Documents (in Portuguese:”Registro de Títulos e Documentos”) is a notary that accepts registering anything that is not against the law. In the decision in the city of São Paulo, it was decided that there it´s possible to register the coexistence of a man still married with another woman. What effect has this contract or another between two men? In practice, only to facilitate proof in a future prosecution (about inheritance, for example). There is much controversy in Brazil if such unions are or not treated as stable unions between persons of different sex (the last are in Federal Constitution). The rights are still depending on each specific court decision.
			The bill in 1151 is very different, because its text provides rights for social security, immigration, discount in income tax, and provides that the recgisters are made in the Civil Registry (the same civil law notary where marriages are registered). In this bill, the registered partnership will modificate marital status (I guess this is too strong and the bill current text - as emended in Low House - don’t contain this). For register, they must prove that they are not married or have no partnership with another person (currently there is no control in that generic register).
			A current right for same-sex unions is the social security (only for workers in the private sector). But that is not in law but in a court decision of 2000 that forced the INSS (the Federal Social Security Institute) to recognize the homosexual partner as beneficiary. The justice forced the INSS to issue an ordinance allowing this, but the case was not finally dismissed until today (there are several appeals against that decision pending the trial). The partnership is now registered in this office is a generic way of proving to the INSS this partnership.
			The text that you showed () is very good and very technical and looks great, without errors, I guess. See that large advances on civil partnership in Brazil are in the field of judicial decisions, which are gaining more importance as confirmed by higher courts in Brasilia. In terms of laws, I agree with the text that there are few state and local laws granting rights to social security to the gay partner of local public server (I don’t know exactly what states are these, I have to find it, but I remember I have seen some news about it).
			In conclusion, it is correct to say that in Brazil the fact unions can be registered anywhere in the country. However, there is not a standard contract, the partners choose what to write, but the simple registration does not provide any automatic right for the couple (except social security for private workers, until the court decision requiring the INSS to recognize it). Sorry the extense message... Hugs, ] (]) 23:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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			==Jhonghe vs. Zhonghe==
			I see you moved the entry for Jhonghe City to Zhonghe City. It looks like you are saying that this is the new official transliteration? Can you please indicate a reference for the official change? I just checked the official city website , and they have Jhonghe in the banner. Thanks! ] (]) 22:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
			:AJseagull1, as of January 1, 2009 ] officially replaced the various older Romanization systems in use in Taiwan. Except for the name of Taipei (''Taibei'' in Hanyu Pinyin) most other place names will likely slowly migrate to the new standard. --] (]) 05:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
			== ] Newsletter (June 2009) ==
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			<big>'''The ] Newsletter!'''</big><br/> Issue XVIII: June 24, 2009 <br />
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			<big><font color=red>'''Yo, happy ] y'all - are you ready for your ]?'''</font></big>
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			;<u>]</u>
			;How do you change the world? You can start by writing an incredible article for the world's encyclopedia. Moni3 kicks it old school again with ] - ''a series of spontaneous, violent demonstrations against a police raid that took place in the early morning hours of June 28, 1969 at the ]. hey have become the defining event that marked the start of the ] in the United States and around the world.'' It's a featured article hitting the mainpage this Sunday to mark the 40th anniversary of the events. So first off, wow! Clever and cool. Moni3 has been recently named hottest delegate to Obama's bookclub but that may not be official yet. (Shhh!)
			Otto4711 mentioned that gee we really should swamp the DYK section with LGBT-related articles for use on the 28th as well. We have eight or so in the ] and if you push yourself to get an article together you might be able to get in on the fun. <big>'''Do this now!'''</big>
			The official rules for DYKs can be found ]. Once you have expanded an article 5-fold or created an article with at least 1,500 characters of prose, place your DYK thread ]. Use handy tool to count your 1,500 characters. As a suggestion, when you add your potential hook, include the character count and a link to the source(s) that confirm the hook. These will be confirmed anyway but may help.
			;<u>Trans quotes needed for ]</u>
			The layout for the individual quotes is ] (just copy/paste into one of the red links on ]). Then ] has to be upped to match the new # of total quotes (not counting quote zero).
			;<u>Obama proclamation</u>
			On June 1, June 2009 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month, citing the riots as a reason to "commit to achieving equal justice under law for LGBT Americans". Excerpts at the bottom.
			;<u>F*ck me I'm famous</u>
			I was interviewed by ''Misplaced Pages Signpost'', the weekly in-house newsletter, for the ]. The ''Signpost'' has nearly 1,000 Wikipedian subscribers and arguably many of those folks actually read it. It came about rather quickly and my worst fears - that it was an elaborate hoax by a troll - were apparently unfounded. I hope y'all feel I did fine by the project, I did my best to avoid the phrase "]" but otherwise did ok.
			;<u>Free image appeal</u>
			A friendly reminder to consider taking photos while you're ] at various ]es and ]s. Consider donating them to the world at ]. I'm sooo totally over having to deal with lovely images being deleted and argued about. If they are just free they are then also freely usable worldwide. And no, they don't need photos of your ] or ].
			;<u>]</u>
			]'s daughter was a famous lesbian and now he's a famous ], possibly the most famous in the world. This also serves as a friendly reminder that we recently updated ] - it's not perfect but should help inform on those gnip-gnop battles that do seem to drag on, and not in the ].
			;<u>R U Popular?</u>
			] is a new handy place to see which LGBT-tagged pages are the most popular in any given month.
			;<u>Article alerts</u>
			As part of the redecorating at ], the article alerts and keyword search alerts are handily located at the top of the page. Always fascinating to see what's up. All help appreciated on those.
			;<u>Glambert</u>
			] is soooo gay - surprised? Neither is anyone else. Nuff said. ] was ] but apparently he wasn't terribly in either.
			;<u>Community Quilt reminder</u>
			] - update it and add yourself!
			;<u>Our own little IRC home</u>
			The LGBT studies project does have its own free ] channel, {{IRC|wikipedia-en-lgbt}}, for coordination, collaboration and socializing. This channel is hosted on ] and can be accessed in one of two ways: If you already have an ], click the link to the left. If you do not have an IRC client, you'll need to get one installed on your computer first. Once you've done this, then click on the link to the left.
			For more general information on IRC and a listing of other useful Misplaced Pages-related channels, see ].
			The project had at one point another channel at {{IRC|LGBTproject}} but as the original people associated with the setting up and administration of that channel have seemed to have disappeared, this new channel has been set up. Plus the new channel is inline with required naming conventions for Misplaced Pages related IRC channels. So, feel free to use this channel. Such a channel gives opportunity to discuss the latest happening on articles, the LGBT project itself, latest happening in your life with "wiki-friends" here, etc.. You can say things on there you normally wouldn't here on Misplaced Pages (keeping it civil of course) like talk about the latest hot guy/girl or tell a joke.. you get the point. Anyway, see you there - eventually!
			;<u>LGBT to-do list (held over from last edition)</u>
			* Give out more ''']s''', and let each other know that what they're doing is valued.
			* Create a guide to '''stave off burnout''', because editors in this project get burned out faster than others. There are many hills to climb.
			* Bring back the '''monthly collaboration project'''.
			* Participate in LGBT '''Peer reviews'''.
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			* Keep our ] and ] '''updated'''.
			* Use the Newsletter, Moni3! You can suggest what to send out in the newsletter, too!
			* Offer research materials, copy editing, ideas, and '''support''' to '''your fellow editors'''.
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			{{cquote|There are many well-respected LGBT leaders in all professional fields, including the arts and business communities. n both the White House and the Federal agencies -- openly LGBT employees are doing their jobs with distinction and professionalism. <br/> LGBT youth should feel safe to learn without the fear of harassment, and LGBT families and seniors should be allowed to live their lives with dignity and respect.<br/> At the international level, I have joined efforts at the United Nations to decriminalize homosexuality around the world. Here at home, I continue to support measures to bring the full spectrum of equal rights to LGBT Americans. These measures include enhancing hate crimes laws, supporting civil unions and Federal rights for LGBT couples, outlawing discrimination in the workplace, ensuring adoption rights, and ending the existing "]" policy in a way that strengthens our Armed Forces and our national security. <br/> As long as the promise of equality for all remains unfulfilled, all Americans are affected. If we can work together to advance the principles upon which our Nation was founded, every American will benefit. During LGBT Pride Month, I call upon the LGBT community, the Congress, and the American people to work together to promote equal rights for all, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity. <br/> I call upon the people of the United States to turn back discrimination and prejudice everywhere it exists.'' - Barack Obama, , The White House (June 1, 2009).}}
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			== Romanian Misplaced Pages ==
			Wouldn't you like to return to the Romanian Misplaced Pages? I don't know what was the reason of your departure, but the project needs as many administrators as possible. I hope to see you back there! ] (]) 18:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
			== What to do about Vlax Romani? ==
			I'm currently taking the lead on figuring out what to do about the Vlax Romani Misplaced Pages (rmy:). Its only administrator, Desiphral, has been abusing his account on various languages' Wikis, letting other people use it for paid editing. I firmly believe that he should not be an administrator anywhere, given his actions and his support of paid editing.
			However, I realize that in suggesting he should be de-sysopped on Vlax Romani, I need to suggest some kind of way forward for the Vlax Romani Misplaced Pages. This is particularly difficult because (a) I know next to nothing about the language, and (b) it's a situation I have very little control over because I'm just an en: admin who does very little inter-project coordination.
			I see that you've done some editing there, and you appear to know the language. If, as I hope, an effort starts ] to find one or more people who are willing to become rmy: admins to replace Desiphral, would you be willing to do so? Do you know of any other trustworthy contributors who speak Vlax Romani?
			Thanks, ] (]) 01:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
			== :O ==
			OMG, you're an atheist ROMANIAN? I never knew there was such a thing! And I thought I was the only Romanian living out of the city I was born in... :P sorry, not wiki-related... X( --] (]) 13:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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			== Version of Nuclearvacuum to international LGBT map ==
			The version of LGBT rights international may by Nuclearvacuum is wrong and has many mistakes. For example in countries like ] or ] homosexuality is illegal. Pleas have a look on the mistakes by Nuclearvacuum. ] (]) 11:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
			== Quick question concerning ] ==
			Hi Ronline :), considering how up to date you are with the status of same-sex unions around the world, I was wondering if you knew if the common-law scheme ] was still on the table, or if the debate has died for the time being. I was going to add it to the ] article, but even after some careful searching, I couldn't find any recent updates. Thanks for being such a great contributor on the same-sex marriage articles! ] (]) 02:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
			:Thanks so much for finding out about the current status, as you mentioned, the status in Italy seems to be pretty unpredictable. I found the links to be of great help and appreciate you helping me out with the information.<br>It will also be interesting to see how the status in Greece plays out. While the country seems to be very socially conservative, I'm been surprised by how many high-ranking religious leaders and additional government officials have been relatively apathetic towards same-sex marriage. I remember reading a while ago that originally the partnership scheme was intended just for opposite-sex couples, so I assume the party adjusted their platform. I know there's a similar proposal in Bulgaria, but ] seems to be a bit cloudy on the subject, first stating that a registered partnership bill is included in the family code but does not benefit same-sex couples and then slightly implying that the government intends to introduce such? Or at least that's just how I read it.<br> Anyway, thanks for clearing up what's going on Italy. Considering how far behind they are when compared alongside other Western European nations, it will be interesting if a future government decides to just go ahead and introduce a same-sex marriage bill. ] (]) 02:46, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
			::I agree, I guess it's simply wishful thinking for Italy to go ahead with full same-sex marriage, and despite increasing support, as you said, the Vatican still remains a heavy influence. It will be interesting to see how the status plays out within the Balkans and surrounding countries, as these nations seem to have even less gay-friendly attitudes than those in the Baltic states. The push for same-sex marriage in Albania is what really surprised me, as I remember when I created the ] article I initially thought of abandoning it as I never thought that developments would ever occur within the decade, especially since as of now, it's one of the few European countries without an anti-discrimination law. It seems like more and more surprises from countries that seem the least likely for such continue to have progress concerning same-sex marriage, and it will be interesting to see how it develops in Asia, particularly East Asia. Thanks again for being so helpful. ] (]) 16:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Please see ]; unless you concur that the article is ready, the nom should be withdrawn. If you concur it is ready, you might want to add your name as a co-nom. ] (]) 16:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
			==For your consideration...==
			...as they say: ]. I thought it was about time the article was expanded - but please review my edits if you have the time and feel like it. Anyway, I hope to see you around more often. Best, ] (]) 22:27, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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			Good evening! I wanted to take a moment to thank you for the poll results that you added to ]. I also wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind using ] in the future. I realize that you're an admin, and I hope I'm not crossing a line or anything, but I'm sure you know how helpful edit summaries can be for those of us who are checking our watchlists. Thanks. :-) –] (]) 23:55, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
			== More poll results ==
			Hi again; I thought you might be interested in some new poll results for ]. Here is the link: –] (]) 23:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
			== Help ==
			NU stiu exact unde sa apelez. Am contribuit de mai multe ori la articolul ] dar tot timpul e sters de aceeasi user. Acuza fals. M-am chinuit zile intregi sa fac ceva cu articolul respectiv dar tot timpul e sters de acelasi user. Ce pot face?? Il pot reporta?? Multumesc foarte mult.] (]) 01:39, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
			== Radio Guerrilla ==
			Could you look in on ]? Looks to me like it is accumulating vanity material, but I don't know enough of what is going on in Romania today to dare to take it on. - ] | ] 02:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
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			== Re: ==
			Hi Ronline! Thank you for raising the issue at my talk page. I think you were practical to remove Australia from the list, as even while the bill is not ''technically'' dead, we do have to apply a fair degree of probability to the worldwide status as it changes so frequently and remains so unpredictable. I had once pondered over whether or not Taiwan should be included, but I deemed for a change in that present legislation to be too unlikely to be worthy of inclusion. I think Australia, and any other similar case that should arise for that matter, should be treated proportionally. It's a shame that Australia is lagging behind, particularly when greater (potential) progress is being achieved in Albania, though on that subject, I've found it a bit strange to not have discovered any surfacing updates since the initial report. While in most countries the lack of a public vote is crucial to preventing anti-same-sex union bans from being passed or marriage laws from being repealed, it's a little disappointing that the government isn't responding to the public opinion, but once again, as far as these matters are concerned, that tends to be a good thing; just not in Australia's case.
			Hmm, as far as the listings for officially dead bills are concerned, I'm personally a bit wary of including legislation that had been presented but never voted on, and subsequently died due to time but not by any form of vote. A mirroring example of this would be with Israel, where a same-sex marriage bill was introduced, but never voted on and later expired after a changing of government. Examples that would correspond with Australia would be Latvia and Switzerland, where a registered partnership bill and a same-sex marriage bill in the latter had been introduced, but voted down by a committee. These had been added several months ago, but were swiftly removed. I'm similarly wary about including these listings in the article, as it would contradict with past criteria for other like-minded articles, such as ]. I'm sure that there have been quite a few measures introduced and then rejected by a committee across the world, such as Paraguay (civil union) and Costa Rica (same-sex marriage), and I feel the list would grow far too complicated and overcrowded if such were to be included, and I would imagine that it would be difficult to track down the majority of such votes, especially when they have occurred in countries as backwards towards LGBT rights as Paraguay and Latvia. My personal criteria would be the following:
			*Include a listing if the bill had been rejected in the Upper House or Lower House
			*Include a listing if the bill had passed, but had been vetoed by the head of state
			Two hypotheticals that I can think of would be if such a law had been rejected via referendum (such as if Switzerland had rejected the registered partnership law), in which we would make a note under final outcome of its repeal. The other hypothetical would be concerning a status akin to that of Venezuela. Currently, the quasi-civil union/anti-LGBT discrimination/sex-reassignment recognition bill has passed its first reading, but has yet to proceed. I think that if the bill was somehow to expire, than it would be worthy to list Venezuela as failed, and failed whenever the bill expired. I'm very open to any changes for a criteria for the article and I think that your suggestions were great should we choose to list cases like Australia. Anyhow, let me know if I somehow misunderstood one of your points and I apologize if I rambled a little bit.
			Anyhow, I agree that 2009 has been a truly fascinating year for same-sex marital rights. It's been very exciting to see so many South American nations showing signs of eminent progress, and I believe that Argentina has a reasonably positive outcome upon its horizon. The announcement in Mexico City looks also fairly promising, as the district has taken some overwhelmingly liberal positions on various other issues as of late (such as abortion), so I'm encouraged by the news. I've almost stopped trying to guess where same-sex marriage developments are going to occur, as if I had been asked to guess which would be the last country in Europe to legalize same-sex marriage, I think I would have selected Albania—even when considering the likes of Serbia, Bulgaria, Belarus, or Russia. But again, I've found it slightly alarming that no updates have surfaced, and the announcement definitely rang me with the "too good to be true" vibe. But I suppose it's too early to be making any final assumptions. The same-sex marriage "movement" in Asia is what fascinates me the most. You would think that at least one Asian country would have legalized gender-neutral marriage by now, but in a way, it's also not much of a surprise due to cultural outlooks and little pressure to do so. Whether or not either make progress (though the latter is not even in Asia), I believe that should same-sex marriage be legalized in Nepal or Albania, I feel that some fairly surprising countries could also join the bunch; inspired by possible economic outcomes. Particularly in Nepal, where progress looks unpredictable yet fairly promising due to continuing pressure from LGBTs inside the government, I think that if SSM was legalized and garnered the country some notable profits, this could possibly raise the issue of SSM in other less-wealthy nations, though Nepal's profit from such weddings would first have to be publicized, and S-S couples from western nations would also be preferable. Due to the fairly passive attitude towards homosexuality in many Southeast Asian countries, it could be possible that some would want to jump on the bandwagon after having seen its profits in Nepal; the most likely candidates being those of Thailand or Cambodia. Getting back to Nepal, it would be truly interesting if the issue is raised singularly and not included within the forthcoming constitution like commonly reported, as I'm quite curious to see how such a vote would be handled by a communist-dominated legislature, particularly since most communist states or states with predominantly communist legislatures seem very eager to push the entire issue of LGBT rights under the rug as quietly as possible. As far as Japan will go, I honestly think it will be quite a while before same-sex marriage is legalized there, primarily due to apathy in the country. China and Vietnam will be other interesting places to watch, though I won't be holding my breath for progress in either of these countries any time soon. And to wrap myself up so I don't keep going on and on :), it looks like the future of same-sex marriage in Uruguay looks to be encouraging, as Broad Front was reelected as expected. Considering that they were able to pass a gay adoption bill (a subject that seems to be even more of a taboo than same-sex marriage for the world apart from the US), it's possible that it could be added to the list by next December. ] (]) 01:53, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
			==Ping==
			I have sent you an e-mail. --] (]) 01:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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			Hy Ronline, i saw on the file of Same sex marriage map Europe detailed, that the island ] is yellow. But it should be have a blue colour. Civil partnerships are allowed on Jersey. ] (]) 05:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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			== Vaughn Walker ==
			I have no objections to the category add, but it's more likely to stick if you add the material and the cite within the article as well. The article could use expansion, and the cite provides nice biographical details. ] (]) 11:27, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
			== Help w/ U.S. marijuana maps ==
			Hi there! I notice you contribute to and discuss the same-sex marriage map of the United States. I am continually impressed
			with how up-to-date that map remains, and how much activity the talk page receives. I am finding it difficult to keep the three U.S. maps relating to marijuana found ] up to date, so I was wondering if you might take a look and perhaps even add the images to your watchlist. I tried updating ] over at Commons, but the image has not updated yet (see NJ ). I am not sure if you have an interest in the legal status of cannabis or not, but I could sure use some help with keep the maps current. If interested, take a look! Thanks! --] <sub>(])</sub> 18:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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			In the ] article, it seems you removed references to ] and replaced them with ]. However, the county's official website consistently uses Tongyong pinyin. The central government has not forced local governments to officially adopt Tongyong pinyin as yet. Those initial plans have been delayed. However, they are no longer funding new signage in Tongyong pinyin. As you can see from the site, the county government still uses Tongyong pinyin and nearly all street signs in the county use either Tongyong pinyin or have legacy Wade-Giles signs remaining. http://www.taichung.gov.tw/english/index.asp ] (]) 08:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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			I liked your signiture so much. Can you help me to make a signiture for me. Multumesc. (I will be in romania in the end of this month). ] (]) 13:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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			Hi. Could you add your opinion? Regards Ron 1987 16:46, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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			Bună, Ronline. Sunt foarte impresionat de site-ul Misplaced Pages şi mă bucur că am găsit aici articole despre România şi despre români. Mi-ar plăcea să adaug şi eu informaţii şi să creez pagini, doar că nu ştiu să vorbesc cursiv engleza. Pot crea însă articole în limba române şi mi-ar plăcea ca cineva să traducă şi să le adauge şi pe Misplaced Pages în limba engleză. Răspunde-mi te rog la propunere. Mulţumesc! --] (]) 16:08, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
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			== MSU Interview ==
			Dear Ronline,
			My name is Jonathan Obar ], I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Misplaced Pages administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community], where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
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			Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name] instead.
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			Since you said on your ] that you are from the Republic of China, I guess you are interested to share your view at ]. Thanks for your attention. ] (]) 12:27, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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			== Wikitravel's future ==
			Hi Ronline. I know it's been a long, long time since you have been active on Wikitravel, but given all your hard work on the project in its early years, I thought you might be interested to hear about its future. As you may or may not have already heard, Wikitravel's community is looking to migrate to the Wikimedia Foundation. A good overview of the process and reasons for the migration can be found in this FAQ . We also have an open ]. --] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 21:31, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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			* '''Activity analysis''': Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
			* '''DR Noticeboard comparison''': How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
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			I'm ] from Betawiki/translatewiki.net and I'm writing to you because I'm collecting some information about the history of the project and the people and facts who made the difference in it. You are user number 14, so you're probably among those; maybe you even remember that it used to be named Nuka-Wiki (from 2005 on).<br>
			It would be wonderful if you could tell me something about how you first reached the wiki (who/what told you about it and how), why you decided to register and contribute, what it meant to you, what made you come back (or not) in the following years, if you spread the word about it, what have been in your opinion the most important facts or discussions in these years, etc.: just anything you want and as much as you can or want.<br>
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			== Local government areas in Australia: religion and other demographic data ==
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			Dear Ronline, as the creator of this article, I ask you to give some sources. Did this airline ever operated any aircraft? If so, which? Did it ever become operational ''at all''? Best regards and thanks for your effort. --] (]) 12:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
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	However, I'd like to understand at which point I can intervene to ammend the proposal? Is there a vote? Who decides policy, and how? I can bring logical arguments, but cannot fight extremism. However, I believe the project should not pass into policy with the current phrasing about the Moldovan language, if only because it's false.
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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue V - April 3, 2007 Monthly Challenge: Article News Three articles were promoted to Featured Article status this month: Homer's Phobia (2007-03-26), Trembling Before G-d (2007-03-15) and Andrew Van De Kamp (2007-03-30). Congratulations to Gran2 and Dev920 (twice!) respectively for all their hard work! Three new articles appeared on the Main Page as Did you know? items: Classification of transsexuals (2007-03-02), Steve Stanton (2007-03-08) and Melbourne Gay and Lesbian Chorus (2007-03-23), started by Lwollert, Yksin and MusicMen, respectively. DavidShankBone deserves kudos for his current drive to provide quality LGBT photos from the NYC area. One of the more recent photos is posted on Michael Musto, and you can check out the gallery on David's user page. Project News There is now the beginning of a list of core topics to possibly be included in the Misplaced Pages 1.0 release. Your suggestions are welcome; there may be many core LGBT topics still missing. We have a list of people categorized as LGBT whose articles need to be checked for reliable sourcing. This effort is necessary and urgent, to comply with Misplaced Pages's policy on living persons. Please take a few moments to source one article; if you've got time, do another. SatyrTN identified all the articles that were in subcategories of Category:LGBT but not yet tagged with the project's banner, about 1,400 articles. These have been completed, though SatyrBot will make periodic runs through the cats to find any new entries. Thanks Satyr! The number of articles within our project's spectrum (6,667 currently) should now be relatively stable and only grow with article creation. However, if you find a category that should be included, please let SatyrTN know so it can be included in the bots runs. Work is underway to improve the LGBT Portal. Please add any good quality (free) photos you come across on LGBT articles to the gallery here. Also if anyone would like to volunteer to help in maintaining the portal, please make yourselves known on the Portal's talkpage. If you see any articles for deletion or any other deletion discussions related to LGBT topics, please remember to add them to the deletion sorting board. Thanks! Member News Our membership continues to expand. 22 new users have joined the WikiProject: Garik, Esrever, mlbedwell, Jet123, Welland R, Auriel, DaliJim, queerpeace, SUIT, Mentality, Nukleoptra, LeaHazel, lindleyle, Justin Eiler, Bylandl, Brent Calderwood, PC78, Gekedo, polymathematics, Coryarlo, Ziji, mcgarymi. Please make them feel welcome! To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please drop me a line. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

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List of songs containing covert references to real musicians

You may want to weigh in at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2007 April 15#List of songs containing covert references to real musicians, since you were involved in a previous discussion of this article. - Jmabel | Talk 05:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Quick note to thank you for doing a lot of the updates on the Economy of the European Union page. I started to bring it up to date, but had to leave the article unfinished, and when I returned, you had completed much of it - much appreciated! FusionWarrior 15:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Sotho language

Hello there.

Why do I get the feeling that everything I say on Talk:Sotho language is being ignored? Oh right -- because everything I say on there IS being ignored!

I am not lying through my teeth when I talk about working on the article offline -- you would have seen this if you had checked the history to see why the article had grown so long.

You're probably going to say "no", but could you possibly delete the articles you created, because it will cause HUGE problems tomorrow when I implement the changes I've been working on for the past month (trust me -- I didn't just split the articles and create a template and category like you did; I made several big changes and 1 HUGE one).

I've brought the article this far with my strange editing habits (which I'll explain if you'd like to understand them), I need you to trust me for just 1 more day. You may send me an email if you wish. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 09:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so very much!

Be sure to check the article(s) about 15 or 16 hours from now for a pleasant surprise...

Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

You forgot ]...

Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Could you possibly delete Sesoho tonology which I accidentally created with a misspelled title?

I'll also be putting a question on Talk:Sesotho tonology — perhaps you might be able to help me?

Thank you for your patience.

Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 10:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Arbitrare

Salut Ronline, am o întrebare pentru tine. Sînt implicat într-o arbitrare legată de articolul Transnistria . Unul dintre arbitrii care au acceptat cazul este Kirill Lokshin, rus de origine. Mă întreb dacă nu ar putea avea un partizanat la această arbitrare. Îl cunoşti? Există posibilitatea de a recuza un arbitru, iar dacă da, crezi aşa ceva oportun în cazul de faţă? Şi despre ceilalţi arbitri te rog spune-mi dacă-i cunoşti şi dacă ţi se par serioşi.--MariusM 20:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Mulţumesc pentru răspuns. Observaţie: "arbitrar" în loc de arbitru, "involvat" în loc de implicat arată de parcă n-ai stăpîni chiar bine limba română. Nu eşti născut în România?--MariusM 22:05, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Ronline, a question to you:

Did Marius express doubt in user:Kirill Lokshin's credibility, based on his ethnicity ("rus de origine") and asked, whether his status as an arbiter can be challenged ("a recuza un arbitru"), because he cannot allow opposition into his arbitration ("nu ar putea avea un partizanat la această arbitrare") in his first post above (please correct me if I mistranslated something)? If true, then this is a remarkable display of ethnicity-based prejudice, IMHO, because Kirill didn't even voice his opinion yet. I would like to add this as evidence of disruptive behavior to the arbitration, in such a case. If not, my sincere apologies will go to both of you. --Illythr 00:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Hm, so it's "...because he may have a biased opinion". A slight mistranslation on my part it is, then. While it's not nice to assume such things based only on someone's name, it probably doesn't qualify as "disruptive behavior". I think I'll let this slip, then. After all, considering that Marius' opposition has been mostly Russian-speaking, I find his request understandable, but not justifiable. Thank you for your time and effort. If you'll need some help in translating something in the en-ru-de area, please let me know. --Illythr 11:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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I notice that you have edited lists of bus routes recently. You might be interested in helping with the new WikiProject buses, especially the proposed Bus route list guide. We are also working out when a bus route should have its own article and other issues. --NE2 15:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

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WP: not a soapbox

Am observat noua ta menţiune pe pagina personală, de susţinător al independenţei Transnistriei. În acest context doresc să-ţi reamintesc ceea ce ţi-am scris în 5 Noiembrie 2006 00:55: "Nu te preocupa de imaginea României, ţi-am scris că nu-ţi cer să acţionezi ca român ci ca administrator la Misplaced Pages". Cererea mea se bizuie pe politica "wikipedia is not a soapbox". În ceea ce mă priveşte, te asigur că nu îmbunătăţirea imaginii României în lume este ceea ce mă determină să contribui la Misplaced Pages, deşi s-a insinuat despre mine că aş fi în slujba serviciului secret român . Urmăreşte în continuare arbitrarea despre Transnistria şi ghidează-te strict de politicile Wikipediei, nu de opţiunile politice. Ceea ce m-a făcut să te contactez este propria ta declaraţie că eşti împotriva cenzurii, nădăjduiesc să fie sinceră această afirmaţie şi să accepţi necenzurarea informaţiilor contrare convingerilor tale politice. Dacă faci vreo afirmaţie despre mine, totdeauna să ai diffuri care să-ţi susţină afirmaţiile (cum spuneam în 21 octombrie 09:42: "Încearcă să nu te bizui pe zvonuri ci pe fapte").--MariusM 14:36, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Eu apreciez puncte de vedere şi criticile de bună credinţă de la alte persoane. Dacă cumva ai impresia că am scris ceva la Misplaced Pages care se poate numi dezinformare, te rog anunţă-mă, respectînd regula care am pomenit-o mai sus: "să ai diffuri care să-ţi susţină afirmaţiile" (în mod excepţional, fiind implicat în arbitrare, aş prefera să primesc prin e-mail exemple despre eventualele mele greşeli). În rest, cred că n-ai citit cu atenţie mesajul meu: eu NU intervin la articolele de pe Misplaced Pages pentru a îmbunătăţi imaginea României. Cred că drepturile omului în general, ale moldovenilor în special, sînt încălcate în Transnistria iar oamenilor de acolo trebuie să li se apere drepturile independent de părerea guvernului român (care, de fapt, nu prea se amestecă, contrar cu ceea ce cred unii opozanţi ai mei din Misplaced Pages). Ca să fac o paralelă, ungurii din Ardeal pot cere respectarea anumitor drepturi independent de poziţia guvernului Ungariei.--MariusM 11:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue VI - May 2, 2007 Monthly Challenge: Stand for Deputy Coordinator or support some candidates after May 5... Article News Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other is a Featured Article Candidate. Project News A taskforce dealing with LGBT publications has been proposed. If you are interested in getting involved, consider signing up at the projects' page. Our core topics list is looking good. It's still a bit slim on LGBT history articles, non-American LGBT media, and important LGBT biographies. Do you have suggestions? David Shankbone has done an amazing job taking photographs of LGBT celebrities. Thanks David! People interested in collaborating with him and setting up a photography taskforce should contact him or drop a note at the project's talkpage. The LGBT Portal still needs a bit of love and attention :-). Again, any good quality (free) photos you come across on LGBT articles can be added to the gallery here. Volunteers to help out with the Portal are extremely welcome- make yourselves known on the Portal's talkpage. Updates to the current news items are helpful. Deputy coordinator elections WikiProject LGBT studies is looking for new Deputy Coordinators to help out with various essential tasks in organising the project. To nominate yourself or contribute to the discussion, please go to: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject LGBT studies/Coordinator/May 2007. The deadline for nominations is May 5 and the elections will last a week after that. Candidates so far are: SatyrTN, Raystorm and Fireplace. The elections will be pretty simple- everyone just endorses their favourite candidate(s). The three with the most votes at the end of the week are the new deputy coordinators, who will assist Dev920 in keeping the project running. Member News Our membership continues to expand. 22 new users have joined the WikiProject (bringing our total membership to 182): Zigzig20s, Qxmagazine, TAnthony, Kbolino, Knorpel, Madman bum and angel, Ponyboy, BenjiBoi, Guy M, Pernishus, Rockdozen, RAShippy, Jaibe, Fshepinc, rglong, Boomboomeve, Undertheinfluence, Kyoko, Catsaki, OsteopathicFreak, smccoy12345, and Alexlovesme. Also Rebecca who rejoins us having previously been a member as Ambi. Please make them feel welcome! To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, just ask Dev920. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let her know.

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The Great Sesotho Debacle of 2007

Hi.

I thought of undoing your moves but I felt that it might not be a great idea after all. However, it is my view that vandalism (let's not lie to ourselves -- that's EXACTLY what "Dawntreader"'s edits were) should be reverted, not accepted and worked around.

The same reason why I edited the articles offline is also the reason why I didn't just revert him (and I have rather little patience for persons with certain behaviours).

The argument is not really over, and the consensus is false. This issue is rather complex. See the recent discussion on Talk:Sotho people for a related and ongoing debate and an example of the true nature of this "consensus" (Mark has taken a short week break, thus the cliffhanger).

What do you think is the optimal action for now? The vandal is not dead quite yet (check the histories and follow the 3 anonymous vandals).

Tebello TheWHO!!?? 08:58, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I do think it's vandalism since:

1. The articles looked just fine
2. am anonymous user shows up
3. he makes abusive statements
4. then he makes extensive changes, within comments, text, and links, obviously not caring about the adverse effects
5. then, after I alert to 3RR in an edit summary, he decides to report me for violating it (at this stage I was ignoring his actions, so I wasn't reverting)

This sounds like vandalism and trolling.

Wait before you answer while I explain the prefix situation...

The "Se" in "Sesotho" does not mean "language." It is a noun class marker which is an inalienable part of the morphology of the word. That's simply the way the word looks.

For example, "education" is derived from "educate" through a change in morphology. The change implies that the word is a noun, but it is not valid to simply use the root without the suffix.

"-sotho" is a root, which is made meaningful with class markers (Sesotho, Basotho, Lesotho, etc).

The "Se-" marker in this case does indicate language, but the class has many other types of nouns.

• seponesa the police force
• sefofu blind person
• sefate tree
• seanamarena traditional blanket
• sekgathe verbal tense

etc.

So yes, it is a tad complicated...

Tebello TheWHO!!?? 11:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

I just need to thank you for the vote and comment here. I feel honored. Dahn 22:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism?

What exactly is my vandalism?--194.225.166.11 12:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

For example this and this. Ronline, why aren't you blocking this guy? If he's not Bonnie, then he's his twin brother, and he has provided plenty of reason. He has also called me an irredentist here and even in an edit summary here. KissL 12:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Removing words that are not backed-up with sources it's not vandalism. My source is CONSTITUTION. Who cares if there was for months before there. That's not an argument. Have you solid sources to back-up your version? I need a link from constitution.--194.225.166.11 12:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you to register at the Misplaced Pages and read the discussions so that you completely understand the topics you would like to be involved in. Everybody is interested in reading what your opinion is, try not to behave as an outsider. --KIDB 13:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Méhkerék

Actually I don't know the exact regulation regarding the use of minority languages in Hungary. (Don't know if there is a 20% rule like in Romania.) There are minority self governing bodies with elected representatives on settlement levels, also on county and national levels - eg. there is a country level Romanian Minority Self Government with elected leaders.
And I don't mind at all if the Romanian name appears in the infobox. If there is somebody reverting you I will try to convince him/her. Are there more ethnic Romanian settlements in Hungary? --KIDB 13:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Update: There are three settlements in Hungary with more than 20% Romanian inhabitants. The third one is Pusztaottlaka, I changed this article too. --KIDB 16:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

In Hungary there is no such clear-cut limit like the 20 % in Romania. It is mainly the business of te local municipalities whether they use minority names or not, according to the wishes of the minority self governing bodies. So nobody should worry about that Romanians in Pusztaottlaka constitute only 17 % not 20 % - the Romanian name is used by the Central Statistic Office also. Zello 19:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Answer

I saw the discussion of Romanian and Hungarian users about names of the places in Romania and the conclusions of that discussion are wrong even for places in Romania not to mention attempt for imposing this solution to places in other countries. The main question here is whether reason for such usage of names is scientific or political. Misplaced Pages is not a place for promotion of political ideas no matter if such idea in this case is irredentism or minority rights. Purpose of Misplaced Pages is a scientific one and from scientific point of view, the reader of Misplaced Pages indeed should have information about varios names of such places, but you people (Hungarian and Romanian users from Talk:Odorheiu Secuiesc) turned the question of where such names should be written into the pure political question and that is not good direction into which Misplaced Pages should develop, not to mention that your "compromise" (or what ever) is against Misplaced Pages naming conventions. In another words, since Misplaced Pages is a scientific encyclopaedia written in English language, names used here are those that are used in English. I can give you concrete examples of the whole problem: let just pick any random article, for example Bogojevo. So, it is village in Serbia with Hungarian majority and Hungarian name for the village is there if somebody (from scientific point of view) would like to know this name. Now the question is whether we should writte there bolded "Bogojevo or Gombos" instead just bolded "Bogojevo". Usage of more than one bolded name here is justified if such names are used in English, but it is not case here. For geographical purposes, English language use only official names used in these countries (i.e. if alternative English (but not non-English) names for such places do not exist). In the case of Bogojevo, it is very well illustrated here: http://www.fallingrain.com/world/YI/2/Bogojevo.html You can see that only official name that is commonly used in English is listed here in the beginning, while all other non-official, non-English names are listed below, but not in the same place where official name is listed. Also, if you try google search, you will see that Hungarian name Gombos is indeed not widely used in English and that it could mainly be found in Hungarian-language websites: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=bogojevo+gombos&btnG=Search Furthermore, the first sentences of the articles should be brief and should not contain too much data of low importance that would only confuse readers. In another words, I do not see scientific reasons (if there is any please say which one that might be) for usage of non-English non-official names bolded in the first sentence. Also, Misplaced Pages is not obligated to follow any official policy of any state including policy of usage of minority languages - such state policies are made with only purpose to help to members of such minority to preserve their language and culture within the country, but that still does not mean that English language use names in their languages for geographical purposes and that such names should be written in Misplaced Pages in the first sentences or in the infoboxes (unless you want to turn a scientific question into political one, which is, as I said, not appropriate on this non-political web site). For example, I see a scientific justification that we writte Hungarian names in the infoboxes of Senta or of Palić because such names are used by majority of local inhabitants, and therefore it is likely that readers of English Misplaced Pages would saw such names in other web-sites, books, etc, so this information indeed could be useful for them, but I do not see a point of writting Romanian or Hungarian name in the infobox of Bela Crkva because such names could not be of any use to Eglish readers (of course if somebody still want to know such names, there is a "Name" section in the article where he can found them, and that is quite enough from the scientific point of view). Regarding usage of bolded Serbian names in the first sentences of Sviniţa, Pojejena and Socol, that is equally wrong as this what I previously spoke about, but since I do not have time to work any more on the articles about Sviniţa, Pojejena and Socol it is your chooice what you will do with these articles, but I want to ensure high quality of the articles about places in Serbia and therefore usage of Misplaced Pages for political naming purposes (instead for scientific ones) cannot be acceptable. PANONIAN 09:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

And just one more illustration how ridiculous whole question is: if we start to writte non-English names bolded in the first sentences of the articles, we would also have to use Serbian Cyrillic for such purposes and therefore, we would not have "Bogojevo or Gombos", but we would in fact have "Богојево or Bogojevo or Gombos" and that would be nothing but stupidity. This also illustrate how wrong usage of bolded Serbian names for Sviniţa, Pojejena and Socol really is when you do not use Serbian Cyrillic (and Cyrillic is a primary Serbian script). PANONIAN 10:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, as for official names of the places, in Serbia there are no other official names of the places than Serbian ones. Only official use of minority or regional languages is regulated by law, but there is no official regulation about official names of the places. I understand 20% population limit used in Romania (and for example also in Macedonia), but such limit does not exist in Serbia: for example, in Novi Sad, besides Serbian, also Hungarian, Slovak and Rusyn are in official use, no matter that these ethnic groups are not larger than 5% population. Also, the fact that these languages are in official use do not obligate local authorities to use multilingual road signs, as you can see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Welcome_to_Novi_Sad.JPG (Table in the entrance in Novi Sad is written only in Serbian Cyrillic and Serbian Latin, while some other road signs are written only in Cyrillic). Therefore, usage of official languges of Vojvodina is not same as usage of official names - all official publications of Serbian and Vojvodinian government (published in Serbian language), use only Serbian names of the places, while Hungarian, Romanian or Slovak names are used only in publications published in these languages, i.e. non-Serbian names are used as any other word from non-Serbian languages (and only as part of official usage of such languages). Basically, this mean that Hungarian, Romanian or Slovak names are in use only in the Hungarian, Romanian or Slovak texts, but not in general official use (In opposite case, Serbian texts would be also obligated to contain such non-Serbian names, but they do not have such obligation). Regarding your motivation for "spirit of tolerance and pluralism and a greater use of minority languages" that is still an example of political motive. No matter if political motives are with good or bad faith, that is still something very different from the basic purpose of this web site and that purpose is to collect and present knowledge. Therefore, if you want to present knowledge about Romanian names for places in Vojvodina and Serbia, I suggest that you writte new article similar to these two: List of Hungarian exonyms in Vojvodina and German exonyms (Vojvodina). PANONIAN 14:56, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

And by the way, why you changed this: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=L%C3%B3r%C3%A9v&diff=130533042&oldid=130522399 Aesthetically, sign "-" is much better than "/", not to mention that I really hate "/" sign used in such cases. Although, we speak here about one same name written in two scripts, imagine that this road sign say "Нови Сад/Novi Sad": http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Welcome_to_Novi_Sad.JPG No, that would be just too confusing...PANONIAN 15:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ronline, I would like to thank you for adding Hungarian names to the leads of many Slovak articles. Good work. As to your other idea, please find my response under your comment on my talk page. Cheers. Tankred 15:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

In any country where official bilingual names of the places are used, state government is obligated to use equally all official names in official publications no matter in which language such publications are published. i.e. in the case if these minority place names are official, government in Belgrade would be obligated to use such names in its publications, but it never use such names, which means that state does not recognize these names as official. As I said, we have here two very different things: "official usage of languages" and "official usage of place names" - these terms are very different and if state recognize "official usage of the language" that does not mean that it also recognize "official usage of place names" (The basic problem is that you mixing these two terms). Regarding Novi Sad, you did not understand at all what I wrote to you about it: Novi Sad IS the place where minority languages are official (no matter if minorities comprise 1% or 6% or 20% or 40% of population - that is completelly irrelevant for official language usage in Vojvodina). And what I said is that if minority languages are recognized as official in this municipality that DOES NOT obligate local authorities to have multilingual road signs because minoririty names of the places are not considered official in Serbia. And I am really not sure do some localities in Vojvodina have bilingual road signs (perhaps northern municipalities with Hungarian majority have them, but I am not sure about this anyway). Regarding "/" sign, for me, it is very ugly that it stand between two names with no empty space between "/" and the names (And it is not ugly but it is hard to read and too confusing for readers). PANONIAN 09:02, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

My 2c

I'm not going to interfere with your friendly exchange >;), just to throw in an info:

The law on the protection of rights and freedoms <of> national minorities

Article 11:

§2. The unit of local self-government is obliged to enter the language and alphabet of a national minority in official use always if the percentage of that national minority in the total population on their territory reaches 15% according to the latest census.

...On the territories from paragraph 2, names of public authorities, names of units of local self-government, of settlements, squares and streets and other toponyms shall also be displayed in the language of the respective national minority according to respective orthography and grammar rules and tradition.

Duja► 08:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that Duja! So, that means that in localities where minorities make up more than 15% of the population, the minority name should be listed in the infobox and in the lead. That's the model currently being implemented in Romanian localities, such as those with Serbian populations of over 20% (Socol, Pojejena, etc.) My intention here is in no way nationalistic - in fact, I was the one who supported the boldening of alternative names in Hungarian or Serbian at Romanian localities, and I have argued with many Romanian users over this. I'm just very frustrated that Panonian is absolutely unwilling to compromise. It would be great to reach a consensus over this as well have done, peacefully and rationally, at Talk:Odorheiu Secuiesc. Ronline ✉ 09:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, by his own admission, Panonian is a bit short-tempered, but can be compromised with (although requiring handling in gloves :-). ). Actually, he's fairly tired of defending Vojvodina-related articles, and the subject of naming was a long-standing subject of nationalist attacks from various sides; he come up with the compromise solution of creating #Name sections and he's certainly reluctant to change it.
Now, I don't have a sensible suggestion (note that we do have name_alt parameter in {{Infobox Serbia municipality}}, which is used for said 15%+ municipalities, like Kanjiža). Note that, since all 6 languages are official but the percentage of minorities highly varies from town to town, and there are historical German, Turkish and/or Latin names, having a "Name" section ensures that everything relevant is listed without cluttering the lead. Personally, I don't have a problem with your ] suggestion. Duja► 09:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand why there is a separate Name section: because Vojvodina has 6 official languages and because indeed all those names may clutter up the lead. That in itself is not a problem, since a "Name" section is a valid way of placing alternative names. However, if such a section is established, then there should be a link from the lead. Panonian was also concerned (mainly with regard to Slovak rather than Vojvodinian articles) that a multilingual infobox may be confusing, as the reader will not know in which language each name is. However, this can be achieved through language tagging, which I have implemented on a provisional basis at Bač, Serbia. Do you think that would work? Ronline ✉ 09:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, it looks plain ugly; I'd rather suggest this form, where the 15%+ minority language name is stated in the lead, and others go to #Name section; in that way, it becomes immediately clear. I'd also propose not using the "alternate name" in lead everywhere, e.g. for purely Serbian settlements with no other relevant names, like Ruma (but I'd also like Panonian to comment). Duja► 09:57, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think your model is better. The only reason why I implemented the tags were because Panonian said that the infoboxes also needed some specification. I think the current model works well. As to "alternate names" link, I'm not sure at what level it should kick in. I agree that in a locality that's 97% Serbian it would be awkward. I guess it should be used where we would normally use alternate names in the lead. Ronline ✉ 10:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

The law presented by Duja is not a law of the state of Serbia, but law of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and this state does not exist anymore. Anyway, as I already said, Misplaced Pages is not obligated to follow official policies of the states, therefore even if such 15% limit exist in the state, there is still no reason that Misplaced Pages use it. Purpose of Misplaced Pages is to collect and present knowledge not to implement policies about minorities. PANONIAN 15:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

It is a law of Serbia as well, by the Constitution Law, until Parliament of Serbia brings a new one. I do agree that it doesn't bind Misplaced Pages though. I also fail to see the rationale for this WP:LAME; over & out. Duja► 15:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

But that law does not say that we have to write minority names into the infoboxes. Does it? PANONIAN 17:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Please stop...

...your disruptive edits in Serbia-related articles. I understand that you have to prove your political point, but that is against everything that Misplaced Pages is - you will receive longer answer from me when I come home, but until then, please try to do something useful for wikipedia instead to push your personal views about wiki policies and usage of the names. Thank you. PANONIAN 19:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I came home from my job, so longer answer now: first, I do not know why you think that agressive revert wars that you started will solve any problem? I had in the past to deal with much more agressive revert warriors than you (do not consider this offensive), so I just want to suggest that you do not waste your free time for nothing. Second, I already asked you to provide scientific reasons for your edits, and you did not done such thing - the only reasons that you presented are political ones and such reasons are not acceptable for scientific web site. Now, please explain your last edits in Vršac and Bela Crkva articles, i.e. please answer this question: do you believe that readers of Misplaced Pages are so stupid that they cannot find "Name" section for themselves so that you are sent by God to point them into that direction??? I would really want to know this answer. Of course, here is my explanation for my edit: names that are not widely used in English are not so important thing that should be in the first sentence of these articles - the first sentence (and first paragraph as a whole) should contain only most important informations about the subject, i.e. basic informations about location and population of the place. If you think that this is wrong, then please tell me reason why these names would be important enough to be posted in the first paragraph? Regarding WP:NCGN, it is ridiculous that you remind me that I should respect it when you do not respect it by yourself in Romania-related articles. Anyway, WP:NCGN is only a guideline or "friendly suggestion", but not obligation that must be followed blindly (no matter that I follow it for the most part). Also, why you again mixing "official languages" with "official place names" when I explained to you difference between these two terms - if you want to see that explanation again, just read my previous posts on your talk page. Also your claim that "no one here so far has advocated that these names be implemented because these cities somehow belong to neighbouring countries" is just ridiculous because if you see edit histories of many Wiki pages you will see that you are very wrong - irredentist claims are main reason for inclusion of such names into articles for many users. Also, if "this is not about neighbouring countries at all" then why you as a citizen of the neighbouring country want to push POV that could be seen as irredentist by some people (no matter if you really have irredentist intentions or not)? Also, my basic reason why I do not want to see "known also by several alternative names" sentence into first paragraph is because such sentence make article ugly and disrupting main story line of the article. Also, it is very correct that such "alternative names" are irrelevant and unknown because, for example, "Romanian" and "Hungarian" names for Vršac are nothing but twisted versions of the Serbian name, and that is a case with largest number of place names in Vojvodina (and in Romanian part of Banat as well, by the way, but it is a question that I do not want to raise anyway). As for you refering to the "rest of Misplaced Pages", I really regret that much of Misplaced Pages has been taken over by various irredentists from various countries who waste their free time to prove "rights" of their country or of their people to certain outlandish teritories and their presence here is indeed a big damage for this project. PANONIAN 21:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Mulţumesc - for your efforts to make en-wiki a more tolerant, friendly and pleasant place. Zello 20:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Zello. Multumesc foarte mult. --Koppany 05:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, --KIDB 07:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Conclusion...

Now Ronline, let me tell you my opinion about best naming policies in Misplaced Pages:

• (1.) In the first sentences of the articles and in the infoboxes we can use only generally accepted most common English names (We primarily writte Misplaced Pages for English-language readers and we should not confuse them with so many names in the infoboxes and in the first paragraph of the article where other more important things should be)
• (2.) If English-language readers want to know other names used for the subject, such names could be written in the "Name" section where they easy can find them
• (3.) We can have separate article sections named "Language" where we can describe official language policies, i.e, we can say which languages are used as official by local or state authorities.

From the scientific point of view, my opinion is very logical and very much in accordance with scientific purpose of Misplaced Pages. There is really no any logical reason for usage of so many non-English names in English texts because such names do not mean anything to English-language readers. Of course, since I am tolerant person and since all rules can have exceptions, I did not removed minority names from the articles about places where ethnic minorities are in majority (places like Subotica, Senta, etc). But of course, since every tolerance have its limits (especially when there are no scientific reasons for things beyond those limits), I am kindly asking you not to start more revert wars about articles about Serbian municipalities. If you want to discuss with me how we can improve these articles from the scientific point of view, I am always open for such discussion. In fact, perhaps we can cooperate and improve those articles: we can find all alternative names for all places and we can post them into "Name" sections of all arrticles or we can write "Language" sections in all these articles where we would describe official language usage policies in these municipalities, but please, do not push something that have no basis in science and in common sense and that is rather disruptive than anything else. PANONIAN 21:54, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Bilingual infoboxes in Romania

A Romanian user, Roamataa began deleting minority language names in the infoboxes, see for example Bistra and Moldoveneşti. Indeed Roamataa deleted Hungarian names all over the infoxes in Cluj County (about a dozen villages). As far as I know there was a consensus among Romanian users that they accept bilingual infoboxes (with 20 % population limit), and there was no problem with them in the past half year. Please try to speak with Roamataa if it's possible about his campaign. Zello 00:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:

But why do you say the infoboxes are not bilingual? In fact their are in 5 languages available and personally I added a lot of names in Hungarian (here, here, here, here (Unirea don't have 20% hu but the hu name is specified in the infobox) and many other). The Romanian, Hungarian, Ucrainian, German and Latin name are displayed on many of them. Please explain why do you think they are not multilingual. The only thing I changed is their title.

You know as good as me that these articles are about communes (the NUTS IV administrative level of Romania), areas, administrative divisions of Romania and their names exist only in Romanian (the same of Romania development regions or counties) and this has nothing to do with how many people live in. The Popeşti village may be called Varfalva, but the commune is is an area which name it is oficially only ro.

And it was not me who decided these are communes (I did not created the articles, I did not added the Template:CommunesCluj). Please check also the ro infobox on communes and you'll see that in the title it write clear "commune" and it is in English a commune (it's not important what you or me believe).

Şi câteva cuvinte pe scurt: Acum putem să stăm cu toţii să ne contrazicem sau să colaborăm. Văd că la Unirea, Alba ai atins un consens corect. Dar văd şi că există o campanie iniţiată de câţiva utilizatori decişi să schimbe / elimine numele româneşti şi care au transformat totul într-o prostie politică. Nu eu am stricat consensul existent ci cei care au vrut ca numele oficiale româneşti să fie schimbate cu altele. Ştii bine că ar putea fi acum invocate şi proceduri ca WP:NCGN sau altele şi să fie cerut să apară doar numele oficiale engleze, cf procedurilor. Dar poate că avem alte lucruri mai bune de făcut. Iar legat de cutia pt comune, trebuie să apară specificat faptul că e comună. Asta nu înseamnă că nu se poate găsi o soluţie rezonabilă şi acceptabilă pt toţi. Dar nu soluţii care să ne fie impuse cu forţa, atâta vreme cât oricum politica de acceptare a numelor la localităţile transilvănene este deja foarte permisivă, spre deosebire de altele. Dacă vrei să găsim un consens corect eu sunt deschis spre a-l stabili.--Roamataa 06:30, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

You mean something like Comuna Călăraşi and Harasztos Kommuna? I think this is fair enough for both sides. But where is the convention for infoboxes at Misplaced Pages that the name is displayed in all officially-recognised languages of a locality? As far as I know the convention is to use the official English name in titles. I don't mind to have it writen in other languages, by respect for the people that live there (I too have hungarian friends and relatives), but where is the obligation to do this? I will check the rest of your observations.--Roamataa 07:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

OK about the infobox title. It is fine for me to have the title of the infobox containing a title like Comuna Călăraşi/Harasztos Kommuna. --Roamataa 08:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Roma series template

Hi, good initiative. In fact, I had this also in mind, but I planned it for later, when I would have added more info about the Romani people and culture, since now most of the articles are in a sorry state, are not really describing the Roma. Thanks, Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 08:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Don't understand

Why did you added all the hu names to Template:Municipalities and Towns of Harghita County? --Roamataa 11:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Nice signature!

How do you get the link to your User Talk page in your signature, please? I've tried putting this:

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in the SIGNATURE box of my user preferences and ticked RAW SIGNATURE but the envelope symbol still doesn't seem to link to my Talk page. W. Frank ✉ 16:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Communes name

For some of the communes and villages in Romania I will have to move them to a name consisting in their name and the name of the county (Băişoara -> Băişoara, Cluj), like on rowiki. This is because I intend to create the articles for the existing villages and otherwise will have duplicate names. --Roamataa 17:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

kommuna

Thank you for including this expression, I think, however, there is a better Hu word for this: "község" meaning settlement, also, community. There would be another word, too: "járás", but until we can specify the best solution, I would suggest "község", like on the homepage of Ilieni Commune (www.illyefalva.eu) Kommuna in Hungarian rather means Commune (intentional community) --KIDB 21:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with KIDB. Indeed kommuna makes me think that in Romania anarcho-sindicalist groups began to flourish :) Zello 23:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

"sockpuppet" hunt

Hi Ronline, and thanks for the clear-eyed and helpful contributions to the various naming-convention wars. I have a specific concern, unrelated to the recent debates but related to one of its participants. User:PANONIAN has just embarked on a massive campaign of tagging about 20-25 anonymous IP contributors' userpages and the userpages of two registered users as "suspected sockpuppets of banned user VinceB." I didn't bother looking into all the IPs contribs, since they are all from Vince's established IP range and I do know he's been still hanging around, but what concerns me is the registered users. Neither of them bear any resemblance to Vince to me, especially not this Lazio fellow. They both appear to be rather nationalistic Hungarians still sore about Trianon, but that's hardly anything unique. Their writing styles are completely different from Vince and in Lazio's case, his command of English appears vastly superior.

I don't know much about sockpuppet-tagging procedure, but common sense tells me that Panonian may be out of line here with his little witch-hunt. I just wanted to let you know in case something needs to be done in a case like this. K. Lásztocska 14:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Update: never mind. Looks like we have more of a real sockpuppet invasion than I thought--ugh. K. Lásztocska 16:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Erdeniss

Thanks for doing the reverts, I was lazy to do it last night and now I see I have nothing to do :-) --KIDB 07:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

?

Can you please tell me why are you are reverting my edits? Do you have something against showing pictures and names of Romanian villages? Please stop. --R O | msg  13:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

I started a discussion at Talk:Cătina, Cluj. Your opinion is welcome. --R O | msg  08:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

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Right causes

Hi! I was passing by, I saw your current userpage and I wanted to express my support for your promotion of these right causes. Otherwise, I keep being busy in real life, so my work here is still going on a slower pace than I would like. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 17:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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László Almásy

Hey - I see that you've put László Almásy in Category:LGBT people from Hungary. There is no reference in the article - do you have one available? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Have you gotten a chance to look this up? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Palmerston North

Hi Ronline. Do you feel like answering the points raised by Rossnixon on the PN Talk page? Just feel I should back off slightly for a while. Kahuroa 09:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Mobile networks

Ronline, I placed a message on the Talk:List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_Europe, because the ratio of mobile phones in Hungary is now over 100%. --KIDB 21:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Panonian

Can you please advise how to protect Misplaced Pages from the anti-Hungarian activities of User:PANONIAN? On the disambiguation page of Greater Hungary he is doing a revert war against three users (including me), pushing his POVs.

1. My position is that Greater Hungary basically means the former Hungarian Kingdom. A simple Google search proves that most sources use Greater Hungary in this meaning. However, Panonian thinks that this meaning is only of secondary importance. He is convinced "Greater Hungary" as a political goal of Hungarian extremists, is more attached to this expression and the latter should be the first in the disambiguation list.
2. He is also convinced that a biased editorial should be included in the disambiguation page which I, as a Hungarian, consider rude and offensive against my Nation.

For me it is now obvious that Panonian is using Misplaced Pages to do anti-Hungarian propaganda. His revert war against three other editors has been going on for 4 days. He never violated the 3RR rule because he waits usually for many Hours until his next revert, but he did 7 reverts during these days. We tried to discuss it with him but it is an impossible mission, he always writes a couple of sentences trying to demonstrate he is right. Can you possibly suggest an administrator who could deal with this issue? --KIDB 21:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

One more note: I would support an NPOV article similar to Greater Romania, Pannonian seems rather to be a supporter articles full of "citation needed" marks. --KIDB 06:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. --KIDB 15:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Zanya/Zanea

Hi! I recently made the article for the Zanya neighborhood/village of Ciurea. Currently in this commune there are recognized 7 villages. Usually Zanya/Zanea was included in the village Ciurea as a neighborhood. In the recent years, informally, it started to be named also as village. I see that here Zanea is named as village, but still the number of official villages is 7. You have much more experience in locality official names on Misplaced Pages, so I'd like to ask you which name you think it should come first. In fact, first of all, I'm not sure when an inhabited area is officially considered as an informal neighborhood which name should have priority. Thanks, Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 12:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, after more study of the Google search, I see that also the Romanian name is used (in fact only this variant appears). I didn't know about this exposure, that's why I considered first the Romani variant. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 13:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Btw,

You are invited to join the Romani WikiProject, an attempt to build and maintain an extensive and neutral database of Romani related articles on Misplaced Pages. To join, simply add your name to the members section of Romani WikiProject.

Thanks for the info. Actually the idea to start such articles (I have in my mind others too) came when I wrote at Misplaced Pages:Notice board for Romani-related topics about the List of Romani settlements, now a list of articles selecting mostly negative and steretypical features. However, I'm still thinking how to tackle that unrealistic list. About the portal, yes it is necessary too, just I'm looking for more available time to write about the fundamentals of the Romani culture (the same as it was the case of making public Roma series template). Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 14:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Salut :D

Hello, I was just wondering...are you the same Ronline that posted all those O-zone and 3rei Sud Est music videos on YouTube? Nat Tang 19:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

AfD for Margita Bangová

Salut! Would you, by any chance, be interested in voting here? --Kuaichik 04:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Query

Hi, Ro. I have a quick question: do you happen to know why the template for the Romani project includes all pages it tags in template and banner categories (like it does here)? My guess is that it is a script error, but I am prestigiously incompetent when working with templates, so I can't be trusted to try and fix it. Dahn 22:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Cheers. Judging by Talk:Kalderash, it doesn't need to be reviewed page-by-page. Dahn 00:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

question!!!

if romania isent a slavic courty im nto saying all of it is im sayign abotu 60 percent is why do they find the racial genes of nordic peoples livign there and the percent of those people are about 60 percent of romanians.and why do we find so many slavic words in romanian languge i would nkow im half romanian and i lived there.the real romanians have tan skin black hair and dakr eyes i have resaerched the analasis of dacian remains and they show hight consetraion of millinia in upper derma wich means that that dacians were a dark complexioned dark eyed people.wich today the slavic romanians call by diffrent names ether then its onw there are to groups of people in romania one is light people blue eyes brown or ligth hair and the other real romanians dark hair dark eyes and tan skin.so in my aswere yes romania is a very slavic coutry seeing as about 45 percent of people in romania are beeing of slavic ansestry.

wat i have meant...

no that is not wat im trying to prove at all.i am trying to prove that most of the people are slavic thats why they have a slavic mixed languge abot 60 percent of them are.as for romanian languge yes it is a latin and should belong to latin europe but only the laungede most people there dont have anythign with latin to do eople exepct for the ones mixed with romans.the people there are romanized slavs romanized germanics the majority of them are and the 30 percent or so romanized thracians.thracians did not belong to any latin group of people but rhater to near eastern people ranging from iran all the way to west turkey thats were the proto-thracians lived int he years wehn they migraited to europe in the south of iran ofcousre not the north im not sayign that thise thracians were iranians but studies of culture and there heritage reveal them as a near eastern people that belonged to there own group of people or one other group of people whos languge has been also extincted.but i said that because i come to my conclusion why would u call it latin europe when the people there have little to do with latin people at all exept of there langgue wich they adapted and exept those peopel mixed with roman colonists.u can only use that term as a top term to classify them in that cultural languge group.but if u want a term that is more into the subject u can not say that they are a regular latin courty.same goes for latin america were in some areas the people jsut speak spanish but have little to do with spaniards exept the mixed ones.u can only say it as a top term.im not arguing with u im just trying to say that so u dont jsut have black and white decsisios but also alternatives..thats all im trying to say.

Rjecina's proposal

Please read Croatian user, Rjecina's message on my talk page. He also had problems with Panonian. What do you think about his proposal? Thanks. --Koppany 18:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Szetey

You may beinterested in this news. Roll down the page to see the whole article. --KIDB 10:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

OK. tell me when you are ready with the article, I will cross-check it with Hungarian references. --KIDB 10:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, bundás kenyér is quite a heavy stuff and is the best if you can have some paradicsom (possibly some onion, too) with it, similarly to vinete, which, I suppose, Hungarians learned from Romanians. About Demszky - he is a politician after all and this says everything. Even if he was a brave anticommunist and was harrassed and beaten by the police of Kádár, many people think that the 17 years he has spent in office as the Mayor of Budapest was too long. --KIDB 08:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Demszky

I can't assess his activities as I am neither a politologist nor an urban planner, but the POVs about him :-) from left and right can be read in the Gábor Demszky article. The overall perception? It depends. If you talk to a supporter of conservative parties, you will learn that he is an evil person destroying the once-beautiful Budapest. If you listen to Socialists or Liberals, you will hear that he is the only person able to save the city from evil FIDESZ politicians. --KIDB 11:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Ro, I am deeply honored, since you are one of the editors I look up to. I'm actually glad we get to collaborate on at least one project (though my contributions there are somewhat limited in scope). Thank you, and not just for the barnstar. Dahn 18:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I echo Dahn's sentiments. Thank you very much, Ronline, for your generous award of the barnstar, and so much else. I appreciate it. Biruitorul 00:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Autistic South Bolzon

Regarding your edit here: There is a discussion on Talk:South Tyrol about that (again). In short: Brittanica calls the province "Bolzano/Bozen" , while the autonomy statute on the official website uses "Province of Bozen - South Tyrol" . Incidentally, that website itself and several other places use "Autonomous Province of Bozen - South Tyrol" (in the copyright tag at the bottom). The website of the Provinvial Statistics institute uses "Autonomous Province of Bolzano". Other official sites use only "South Tyrol". Some have pointed to WP:NCGN, saying we shouldn't necessarily be looking for or using the official name at all, but instead use the widely accepted English name. Someone objected to the bilingual naming and removed the "Bozen", and of course there are sites that use only "Bolzano" for the prvince as well...

I'm out of ideas right now, but using Bolzano/Bozen or Bolzano exlusively seems to me to be confusing for the reader. The widely accepted English name seems to be either "Alto Adige" or "South Tyrol", when you search Google and Google news. —AldeBaer (c) 19:38, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I agree that "ST" is the least confusing compromise, and that was the version used until an IP changed many articles. It was reverted twice, first by Delirium, then by me, and then another user came and changed it again. I don't think consensus will be easy to find on this one. —AldeBaer (c) 00:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

joined your conversation at Aldebaer's talk page. Note that it has been South Tyrol for a long time because a large set of users with a particular POV have made it this way. It is by no means a compromise if you understand the political implications. Icsunonove 01:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue VIII - July 1, 2007 Monthly Challenge: Submit an article to our Jumpaclass competition! Languishing unloved, it is a great way to improving that article you always meant to improve but never got round to. Challenge someone else to go head to head and see who can improve their article most! Article News But I'm a Cheerleader is now GA Class! Project News Our Deputy Coordinators have been doing a fabulous job so far. Well done! The portal is now looking very snazzy, well done to Fireplace for all his hard work. The list of LGBT people to be sorted has now beed reduced by 20%. Please help us with it, all of us adding just one person a day would have a dramatic effect! The Core Topics is now largely complete. The original aim of getting some kind of publication out of it is extremely long term - any short term uses we can make of it are welcome on the project talkpage. A suggestion was made this month that we start our own wiki. Although the conclusion was that we felt we were a part of Misplaced Pages rather than a stand alone organisation, it seems there is an LGBT wiki already, at http://lgbt.wikia.com/Main_page . Members may be interested in getting involved there. The Collaboration is now getting rather short on suggestions. Article nominations for August through December would be welcome on the talkpage. There is now a list of Missing LGBT Topics. Help is needed to work out which topics can be made redirects or need to be created. Please contribute is you can. An LGBT banner that was created for Misplaced Pages's internal ads system has now been adapted so it can be placed on blogs and websites. The html is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/WP:LGBT"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Qxz-ad48.gif" height="53" width="445"></a> Please credit Miranda and link to her userpage: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Miranda">Miranda</a>. The banner can be seen in action here. If you have a blog or a website, please consider adding the banner, either in a post or as part of your profile. Member News 11 new contributors joined the project in the last month: Xnuala, Samantha Pignez, Jreferee, BGMurph, jmsast, Kukini, Theinsidellama, Heyfoureyes, Iceflow, NickGorton, Lynnllynn, KaiLeo, Amadscientist, and Mad_Cheese_Eater. Please make them feel welcome  ! However, this is a bit low for a project of our standing, so please consider doing a little recruiting if you can. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

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Wahaha Danone joint venture

I just created this article on this very topical subject. The subject matter would make for a good featured article, so I am hoping to enlist your help to get it there qualitatively. Ohconfucius 02:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• Oops, you work fast! I made some changes off line and posted them, then I realised you had already tucked in, I think I reversed it in time! Ohconfucius 08:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Query

Hi, Ro. I know you have been involved in creating various Romania-related templates, and I could use a second opinion on a particular detail. I left a comment at Talk:Piteşti#Crest. Thank you. Dahn 14:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Discussion about false map

If you want to see something interesting you must to look article Borders before and after Yugoslavia, PANONIAN map of Serbia in 1918 and our discussion about this map. Discussion is on discussion page of article for which I have given you link. In last week I am fighting with PANONIAN that this fantasy map in which even Pecs and Timisoara are Serbian territory be deleted on wiki. ---Rjecina 19:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Help

Hi, I see that you are an admin here, so please help me about this: User:Rjecina harassing me claiming that I am "fundamentalist" and accusing me that I said things that I did not said: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3ABorders_before_and_after_Yugoslavia&diff=146127770&oldid=145876340 Can you please tell him not to call me "fundamentalist" and twist my words because these false accusations are really not pleasant. Also, you can see that he call other users "fundamentalists" as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3ANikola_Tesla%2FNationality_and_ethnicity&diff=146129581&oldid=146118836 As an admin you can remind him that he should behave civil and provide arguments for the subject of dispute not to harass other users on personal basis. I would really appreciate your help here. PANONIAN 20:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

At least the map of Kingdom of Serbia in 1918 is false indeed. Baranya and other territories were under military occupation of Serbia, but noone recognised the occupation. Otherwise another map created by PANONIAN suggests that the unconstitutionally created and short-lived Serbian Voivodship was a voivodship of Serbia while the Principality of Serbia under Ottoman rule had nothing to do with this Voivodship. I support the deletion or modification of these maps. --Koppany 21:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Koppany, this was already discussed on the proper talk page, so why you do not read whole discussion there? These regions officially united with Serbia and SHS Kingdom in 1918 and this Kingdom was recognized by the international community in 1919, while Hungary was officially recognized one year later (in 1920). Also see Hungarian source that I used as a source for borders in my map: http://terkepek.adatbank.transindex.ro/kepek/netre/167.gif Also, Voivodship of Serbia certainly was not "unconstitutionally created" and reasons why these two territories are showed with same colour are also explained on the proper talk page. You are welcome to participate in discussion on these talk pages if you want because talk page of user Ronline is really not a proper place for that - I only asked here user Ronline for help about one specific question and this is not place where other questions should be discussed because all these articles and images do have their own talk pages. PANONIAN 22:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Bačka

Hi Ronline,

I would like to ask you to help me on the discussion page with user PANONIAN regarding to the article http://en.wikipedia.org/Ba%C4%8Dka. As summarization: PANONIAN wrote the Demograpics part with some explanation. I think PANONIAN's work is a very good summarization of the viewpoint common among Serbs. But there exist another viewpoints, in this case Hungarian, which may differ form Serbian. For example: in the article it is written that the 1941 census was unreliable, but nothing is written to censuses 1921 and 1931. Hungarian historians think 1941 census was relaively reliable, but here were many problems with 1921 and 1931 censuses. I don't want to say that Hungarians hold the divine truth and the Serbs not, but according to Misplaced Pages's NPOV every relevant viewpoints has to be presented in a fair way.

I don't want to write here all my problems with that section; I think I've summarized them in a fair way. At first please read Demographic (2) part on discussion page, there are 4 (in fact: 3) points, which I think not neutral, the explanation why I consider it not to be neutral, and a proposal.

Thanks for your help in advance: Csaba Faragó

Fcsaba 12:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Help

Can you help with this user: http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Wallak I suspect that it is sockpuppet of banned user Bonaparte and he vandalizing various articles related to Romanians and Vlachs. Can we do something about it? PANONIAN 19:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you also translate for me what this link say: http://www.adevarul.ro/index.php?section=articole&screen=index&id=25504&search=Timoc PANONIAN 19:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I told you one more time: I'm Wallak and don't remove sourced information because you'll be reverted.--Wallak 19:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Use this link also: http://www.adevarul.ro/index.php?section=articole&screen=index&id=25504&search=Timoc

Iugoslavia recunoaste apartenenta vlahilor din Valea Timocului la minoritatea romaneasca (66 afisari, 2002-11-06) Prin acordul privind minoritatile, semnat, luni, la Belgrad, de catre presedintii Ion Iliescu si Voislav Kostunita, statul iugoslav recunoaste dreptul apartenentei la minoritatea romaneasca din Iugoslavia al celor aproape 120.000 de vlahi (cifra neoficiala), care traiesc in Valea Timocului, in Serbia de Rasarit. Reprezentantii romanilor din Iugoslavia, profesori, ziaristi, scriitori, i-au multumit, ieri, la Pancevo, sefului statului pentru aceasta intelegere cu guvernul de la Belgrad. Acordul este considerat de importanta istorica pentru romanii din Valea Timocului, care, din timpul lui Iosip Broz Tito, traiesc fara drept la invatamant si viata religioasa in limba materna, practic nerecunoscuti ca etnie. "Nu vom face ca fostul regim, sa numim noi care sunt minoritatile nationale sau sa stergem cu guma alte minoritati", a spus, ieri, Rasim Ljajic, ministrul sarb pentru minoritati, la intalnirea de la Pancevo a presedintelui cu romanii din Iugoslavia. Deocamdata, statul iugoslav nu a recunoscut prin lege statutul vlahilor de pe Valea Timocului, insa de-acum va acorda acestora dreptul la optiunea etnica, va permite, in decembrie, constituirea Consiliului Reprezentantilor Romani si va participa in Comisia mixta romano-iugoslava la monitorizarea problemelor minoritatilor sarba si romana din cele doua state. In Iugoslavia traiesc cateva sute de mii de romani. Presedintele Ion Iliescu s-a angajat, ieri, pentru o politica mai activa privind romanii din afara granitelor: "Avem mari datorii fata de romanii care traiesc in afara granitelor. Autocritic vorbind, nu ne-am facut intotdeauna datoria. De dragul de a nu afecta relatiile noastre cu vecinii, am fost mai retinuti, mai prudenti in a sustine cauza romanilor din statele vecine. (...) Ungurii ne dau lectii din acest punct de vedere", a spus presedintele, precizand ca romanii trebuie sa-si apere cauza "pe baza de buna intelegere".

There isn't a strong controversy. Everything related to the Vlachs (Romanians) of Serbia can be add it in the main article Romanians of Serbia. Even the Serbian Gov. recognize them that they are Romanians so there isn't any need to create artificial articles about new minorities. --Wallak 15:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Vlach language

Panonian, the point here is that it must be mentioned that in the census there is such thing as a Vlach language. I'm not saying we shouldn't mention that. "They are officially recognized as separate languages" --> Yes that should be mentioned. However, in truth they are the same, so it cannot be asserted that the "Timok Valley Vlachs" speak "Vlach". There is no such thing as Vlach! It is one thing to say that "The Vlachs of Serbia speak Vlach" and another one to say "Serbian authorities consider Timok Valley "Vlachs" to speak the Vlach language, even though the language they speak is identical to Romanian" or even "Many Vlachs say that they speak the Vlach language, but this language is identical to Romanian" What I'm saying is - as per the NPOV policy, it's not wrong to mention the word "Vlach". However, it shouldn't be stated as truth. Ronline 11:30, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

See my reply on my page. As much as you want to be NPOV, here you're very POV if you support Serbia's Gov. POV. --Brickoceanmonth 08:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

01 august 2007 Azi 01.08.2007 la sediul din Negotin al CNRS a sosit confirmarea inregistrarii Consiliului National al Rumanilor din Serbia (in limba sarba se utilizeaza sinonimul arhaic pentru roman,“vlasi”). Consiliul reprezinta comunitatea romaneasca din Timoc si are precizat in statutul sau utilizarea ca limba materna a limbii romane literare, transmite corespondentul Romanian Global News din Timoc.Necesitatea inregistrarii acestui consiliu a fost data de faptul ca romanii din Timoc (peste 250.000) au o situatie diferita de romanii din Voivodina (circa 35.000), iar obiectivele fiecareia dintre cele doua comunitati sunt diferite. Daca cei din Voivodina au avut si au scoli si biserici in limba proprie inca de pe timpul Imperiului Austro-ungar, romanii din Timoc de mai bine de 200 de ani sunt supusi unui intens si agresiv proces de asimilare care a lasat numeroase urme in mentalitatea si onomastica comunitatii si a facut ca in zona Timocului sa nu existe scoala si biserica romaneasca.

Have you read this? or you ignore it?--Brickoceanmonth 08:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Ronline, and please don't ignore simple facts that happend these days. This is history for the Romanians of Serbia!--Brickoceanmonth 08:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

You are proved to be a fighter for the minority rights, regardless of their ethnicity, sex..etc. It's the same problems with the minority rights of the Romanian community from Serbia. keep up your good work! ;-) --Brickoceanmonth 09:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Why they say I'm Bonny? can you ask a CheckUser?--Brickoceanmonth 18:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Inserting constant POV

See

v t e Europe
Sovereign states	Albania Andorra Armenia Austria Azerbaijan Belarus Belgium Bosnia and Herzegovina Bulgaria Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Estonia Finland France Georgia Germany Greece Hungary Iceland Ireland Italy Kazakhstan Latvia Liechtenstein Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Moldova Monaco Montenegro Netherlands North Macedonia Norway Poland Portugal Romania Russia San Marino Serbia Slovakia Slovenia Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey Ukraine United Kingdom Vatican City
States with limited recognition	Abkhazia Kosovo Northern Cyprus South Ossetia Transnistria
Dependencies and other entities	Åland Faroe Islands Gibraltar Guernsey Isle of Man Jersey Svalbard
Other entities	European Union European Economic Area Sovereign Military Order of Malta

where Mikkalai is inserting Transnistria in the list even if it is a breakaway region of Moldova and so it will last forever.--201.225.40.228 06:44, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue IX - September 1, 2007 Message from Coordinator: It's been almost two months since the last newsletter came out, so there are a fair few people who haven't really been kept up with our project. I'd like to welcome all those who have joined and those who have returned, and strongly reccommend that you use the talkpage for any queries or problems you have. Happy editing! Article News The ongoing effort to create a comprehensive list of LGB people has begun to bear fruit - /A AND the /W-Z lists have been featured! Congratulations to Dev920 and SatyrTN who nominated them respectively. Please consider pitching in the the remaining lists to help us get them finished before the end of the year. Project News WP:LGBT now has an IRC channel! It is #LGBTProject on Freenode. Users without IRC or Xchat can use the java app at java.freenode.net to access the channel from their web browser. Hope to see you in there sometime! David Shankbone has taken a LOT of photos. An idea has been mooted to create a page for listing people who are willing to take images in their area on request, please give your thoughts here. Considerable discussion has recently been held on our coverage of same sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships. You may be interested to read it. The list of LGBT people to be sorted has now been reduced by over 30%. Please help us with it, all of us adding just one person a day would have a dramatic effect! A gay cabal conspiracy ghost has been created to do with what you will. :) Member News Since the last newsletter was released, we have had more members been labelled inactive than who have signed up - please consider recruiting a few more people if you can, a WikiProject is only as good as its members. :) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

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Chronic fatigue syndrome

Just a note to inform you that I've reverted your forking of chronic fatigue syndrome. Firstly, there was no discussion whatsoever to make such a move, which should have happened given that the talk page on some days gets at least 10 edits a day. Secondly, different treatments are proposed by different "schools of thought"; disconnecting this information would lead to fragmentation of the article and an opportunity for the proponents of either school to take control of a subarticle. Thirdly, there are other sections that would equally well benefit from splitting off.

If you still think the article should be split up, please let me know. At any rate, it cannot happen without discussion. JFW | T@lk 11:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue X - October 1, 2007 The LGBT studies project has been rather quiet of late. Though we've added over 180 new members in the last year, only a small percentage are active participants. If you haven't visited our project or talk page in a while, please stop by for a look. Also, if you happen to bump into another editor who you feel might enjoy working with us, please extend an invitation. There's lot's do do, and the active members would sincerely appreciate some help. Welcome to the 11 new members that joined us in September: Bu852, JuniorMuruin, Laualoha, JereKrischel, Dybryd, Sexperts, Ctjf83, Allstarecho, Johnandbob, Carlossuarez46, and Carterdriggs! LGBT Project Peer review Our Peer review project is struggling at the present, with only a few people reviewing the articles. While it is certainly possible to submit articles for a general peer review, a review by members of the LGBT community can be of additional value for LGBT specific writing. There are several articles currently up for review on a wide range of topics. At the very least, reading the articles will undoubtedly broaden your intellectual horizons :-) Deletion discussions At the moment, David Le Brocq, Malmö Devilants and Trajectory Hermeneutics are up for deletion review. Please take a look at them and make your voice heard at the deletion review. Articles nominated for deletion also present a challenge for improvement. See what you can do, and watchlist our deletion review page. FA & GA article news Since our last newsletter, Fun Home and GayFest have been promoted to Good Article status. Congratulations to all editors who have worked so hard to improve them! 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The difference between Romania and Poland

This is a cool link showing the difference of treatment between Romanian and Poland. You will see that the latter is actually respected, regardless of its shortcoming (which are important) . Dpotop 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Revisiting an issue

Hi, Ronline. On Jmabel's talk page, I have raised some issues involving an older problem. I don't know if you want to get involved in assessing the arguments and counterarguments, but I would welcome any input from you, given the extended and volatile nature of the polemic on this topic, its importance to present-day politics, and the one-sidedness nature of virtually all arguments brought up against the text. Thanking you in advance, Dahn 00:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Cyprus economy

Hi. You added the following statement to the economy section of the article about Cyprus, and I have two questions. "Its per-capita income is slightly lower than that of the big four European economies, but higher than the European Union average." 1 - Am I safe in assuming that the "big four" are the U.K., Germany, France, and Italy? If so, then I will clarify that in the article. 2 - Is there a reference for this information? The paragraph makes it appear that it comes from the existing reference. I appreciate your help. Saraalan 02:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Montenegro

...why precisely did you add by linguists? --PaxEquilibrium 14:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It cannot be connected with Bosnian because of several things. Firstly, the Bosnian language factually exists, i.e. those who want to understand Bosnian can do so by finding Bosnian-language-educated professors, reading Grammars and Primers. There are works specifically written in Bosnian language. However, there is no such thing with the Montenegrin language - it doesn't exist beyond a paper adopted into legal act (politically) several days ago. Additionally, 100% of speakers of the Bosnian language consider their language a language - over 80% of the speakers of the Montenegrin language, consider it a dialect of Serbian, while only 20% think it's a separate language.

In the end I understand what you want to say - but see Moldova and Talk:Moldova#.22Moldovian.22_Language.3F. I am trying to pair up for general neutrality of the Misplaced Pages, and hence that. As you can see, all my proposals were rejected - and the current version is in my opinion a bit too POV, and probably even more from your edge of view. --PaxEquilibrium 15:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XI - November 1, 2007 Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time — get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project's Love Boat newsletter from your cruise director Miss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!! Alice and her harasser Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes <bright smiles all around>. Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days. "My Fellow Americans" On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project. Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Misplaced Pages, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand? Beat writer arouses Irish guy And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Misplaced Pages purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all. Love those Texas Longhorns Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....). Point and Counterpoint Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now. Drudgery on offer Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did. "My Fellow Americans" redux The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational. This month's Wiki stars Lesbian pulp fiction (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer Ann Bannon has decided to spice up the featured articles candidates list this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles But I'm a Cheerleader and Conversion therapy. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sd-Si became a Featured list!! Rah rah, siskumbah! Go, team, GO!!!! And the Oscar goes to... Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle. Fresh faces to brighten our pages Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: Jliberty, JockCub360, ChristopherEdwards, Desiderius82, Zlrussell, Kelsied, BeardedWoof, Mujerado, Tyrfing, Fabgurrl, Redl@nds597198, and decafdyke! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy. Leather and lace On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome! Late breaking news A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!). Champagne dreams and caviar kisses Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out. In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon. Kisses, Miss Julie To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

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File:Red leaves wreath transparent bg.png            The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter            File:Red leaves wreath transparent bg.png

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XII - December 1, 2007 Here comes Santa Claus, Here comes Santa Claus, right down Santa Claus lane! Ho, ho ho (but not that kind of ho!) and Merry Christmas, everybody! Yes, that's right. It's time for the Christmas edition of the LGBT Love Boat newsletter. This homo Love Boat is cruising into Christmas and counting down the days to a brand new year! It doesn't matter if you're Christian or belong to some other, more obscure sect. Jesus loves you one and all, so let's curl up around the fire, sing some carols, drink some egg nog, and have a gay old time. But before we do, perhaps your chipper cruise director Miss Julie should spread the gender bendin' news from everyone's favorite project.... Table of Contents Quelle Suprise! King James is a Queen! It's Britney, Bitch! Game show for nerds Jón Þór Birgisson Everybody loves a sequel Not quite the second coming, but special just the same Battle of the Misplaced Pages Stars! Santa needs elves Urgent Christmas appeal Surrender, Dorothy!!!!!!! Ambrosia Christmas came early You! Quelle Suprise! King James is a Queen! Our dear Haiduc, never a stranger to controversy, recently decided to delve into the wardrobe of the British Monarchy, and what did he discover? King James had more than appreciative eyes for strapping young men! Naturally, Haiduc felt the need to share this news with the community, but instead of being praised for his scholarship, he was reviled. In fact, one rabid heterocentrist even rummaged around in his own wardrobe until he found an old pair of socks to play with. All seemed lost until astute editor Jeffpw noticed some odd postings and did some sleuthing of his own. The socks were uncovered, the Wicked Witch was melted and readers the world over were able to learn that Good King James regularly ordered tube steak from the menu of the day. Thank you, Haiduc! Thank you, Jeff! And let Miss Julie add (for readers who might not know) that tube steak tastes just like chicken! It's Britney, Bitch! Well, maybe it's not Miss Thang, herself, but it's the next best thing: Chris Crocker! he stirs up just about as much controversy as his idol does, even here on Misplaced Pages. Though it's all a bit of a muddle, one of our editors hopes you can drop by the talk page and leave a message of hope for those battling the forces of obstructionism in that little corner of the Wiki World. It is so hard to spread enlightenment. As Miss Parker herself said, "You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think". Game show for nerds Wallowing in cash from the latest beg-a-thon, the powers-that-be have decided to sponser a little contest here to improve the articles, with a Grand prize of $100. Yeah. Just enough for a Burger King dinner for the family. Still, the thought is nice and the goal is noble, so we should support it. Our little Queer beehive has taken a look at what's on offer, and both the Greek Traditionalists and Daughters of Bilitis are well represented. The ever useful SatyrTN has made a little list, which can be found here (if that malignant bot hasn't archived it already, that is). So find a pal, roll up your sleeves and dive right in. Let's show this Encyclopedia just what Queers with firecrackers up their....err, I mean, let's show the others what we can do. Jón Þór Birgisson I can't pronounce his name, but he's awfully cute, he's deliciously foreign, and best of all...he's GAY! But he won't be for long, if certain users have their way. A concerted effort has been under way for a while now, designed to neuter poor Jon (pretend I put a little accent thingy over that O) and make him into a sort of rockin' Ken doll. So please watchlist this hunka man, and keep him queer! If anybody questions you, tell them "Miss Julie sent me". Everybody loves a sequel Readers not afflicted with Alzheimer's will remember that last month we had a little story about Alice and her harasser. That proved so popular that we bring you the sequel: Benjiboi and his stalker. After a chance meeting at the Michael Lucas article, this anonymous user took a shine to our Benjiboi, and has been showering him with attention on virtually every board on Misplaced Pages. Flattered though he is, Benjiboi finds the attention a bit distracting, and administrators have been seeking various remedies for this. It has proven difficult, as the stalker has an IP address that changes quicker than Superman in a telephone booth. So perhaps some of you would like to watchlist Benjiboi's page, and lend a hand if you see some love letters from an 11 digit friend. I was actually thinking we should get Alice's harasser and Benjiboi's stalker together. Then we could have another sequel, sort of like Freddy vs. Jason. Any bets as to who would win?? Not quite the second coming, but special just the same Let me be the first to give a warm, wet, Love Boat kiss (though not with tongue) to our newest Project members: Jacksinterweb, Cleduc, Pigman, Becksguy and Iamandrewrice. Even in the month of our Saviour's birth, your popping into our Wikipedian lives is a blessed event indeed. As Jesus Himself said, "Live long and prosper". He did say that, didn't he? I think he said it. In any event, if he was standing next to me now, I'm sure he'd say it, and add, "Happy homo editing!" Battle of the Misplaced Pages Stars! Indomitable Ann Bannon is holding her own in Misplaced Pages's answer to American Idol: The Featured Article candidate list! For four feverish weeks, she has mastered the challenges and not been eliminated from the competition. Drop by the FAC page and show Ann you love her....or give her the hook (I'm not supposed to tell you how to vote). Giving our plucky Ann reason to hope is the recent promotion of List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sa-Sc. If Miss Julie has her way, we will have the entire alphabet of Queerdom Featured here on Misplaced Pages soon! And I would be remiss if I did not give a warm, Lesbian salute to our own Belovedfreak, who showed Misplaced Pages with But I'm a Cheerleader that even pom poms are no protection from the Love that dare not speak its name, and got a gold star for her efforts. Climbing the Misplaced Pages career ladder is User: Tim1965, who has not only written, but is now promoting Reel Affirmations to Good article status. Best of luck, Tim, and remember: there are no small parts, only small actors. We're sure you'll be trading that green circle for a gold star soon (assuming you get the green in the first place!). Santa needs elves Yes, I know: packages need buying, trees need trimming, egg nog needs drinking. The holidays make many demands on our time. It's ...well, it's a bitch, is what it is. So I wouldn't blame you for skipping this little section and putting off my request until next year. But...think of the children. Our future. They need quality information about the homosexual "lifestyle" if we are to indoctrinate them properly. That's why I am asking you to drop by our Peer review area and give your meaning as to the efforts of your fellow gay Wikipedians. And think: in this season of kindness and good will to all, isn't it nice that I am pointing you to someplace where you can (in a Wikiloving way, of course) rip someone a new asshole? Think about it...and those children with their shiny, bright eyes, thanking you for contributing to their future. Even more festively, consider joining in on the deletion discussions of our favorite articles. Here you can bandy about such words as "homophobia", "Right-wing Christian agenda" and my personal favorite, "just who do you think you're pushing around?!?!?". If you play your cards right, there might even be an extra present under the tree for you. :-D Urgent Christmas appeal Tovojolo asked me to ask you to edit Elizabeth Bishop as part of the Collaboration Project. She's an old dead poet (Miss Bishop, not Tovojolo. I've never actually met Tovojolo. She's probably very young and attractive. Maybe somebody should ask if she's single), but she was a flaming homosexual long before most of us had even been conceived, so we owe her some respect. Tovojolo actually asked me for the last newsletter, but Miss Julie forgot. Bad Miss Julie. She was so busy boosting morale it just slipped right by her. Nemissimo, maybe you need to crack that whip again to get Julie back in line. Surrender, Dorothy!!!!!!! Friend of Dorothy has attracted the attention of a group of....the more senior elements of our gay society. They disagree with our thesis that Saint Judy was the possible source of the term, and demand we change the article to reflect their contention that Dorothy Parker was the origin. The problem is, their source didn't check out. So we agreed to disagree. Well, we at the project did. They got kinda mad at us, said unkind things, and started edit warring. Though they are old, they are certainly quick, and could revert the article faster than my nimble fingers could press the undo button. To quote the divine Miss Parker, every time I saw the article on my watchlist, I thought to myself, "What fresh hell is this?". The page was protected by sympathetic administrators, but keeping an eye on it will keep Dorothy safe from future Wicked Witches of the West or East. Ambrosia Our dear Benjiboi has been busy indeed, lately. He recently made fruit salad out of Fruit, turning a once nasty word into a damn good article, and saving it from deletion! Congratulations, Benjiboi! I hear he has turned his attention from fruit to poultry now. Before he is through, he will have turned every major food group gay on Misplaced Pages! Christmas came early Yes, indeed! Valued administrator WJBscribe was raised out of the mire of mid-level management and placed squarely into the Pantheon of Bureaucracy! And Miss Julie is just too proud of him not to mention that he got the most support votes in the history of Misplaced Pages! Congratulations, WJB! We know you will not prove the Peter Principle correct! You! Yes, you! It's you who make this project shine! It's you who make Misplaced Pages such a valuable resource for all humanity! And it's you who make Miss Julie's dull life just a little bit better. So I want to take this moment to thank each and every one of you for all you do here. Merry Christmas, everybody! Happy Hanukkah! Festive Kwanzaa! Delirious Dong Zhi! Delicious Diwali! And for our oppressed Iranian brothers and sisters, I wish you a safe and joyous Yalda. And if I didn't mention your favorite December holiday, well, it's because I feel it's so special I should just keep it between you and me. Always remember: You light up my life! May we all have a joyous holiday season, and a safe, healthy, happy and prosperous 2008. With love from Miss Julie To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Your Cruise Director know.

Delivered on 20:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC). SatyrBot 21:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

salut, ai un e-mail sau o adresa de messenger?

salut, ai un e-mail sau o adresa de messenger? vreau sa discut ceva cu tine urgent Adrianzax (talk) 12:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

ping

Please read your en wikinews talk page. (I've also emailed you. sorry for spam). Bawolff (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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Ferentari riot

Hello. Could I ask you to look at 2006 Ferentari riot, in particular Dl.goe's edit and Jmabel's talk page message? I'm pretty sure my version (really yours) is more accurate, but since you wrote the article, I thought it would be a good idea to inform you of the issue. Thank you. Biruitorul (talk) 00:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Compasiune

Îmi exprim compasiunea pentru necazul tău. Dacă n-ar fi armata rusă, la fel ar păţi separatiştii şi în Transnistria.--MariusM (talk) 20:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XII - December 1, 2007 Ms Julie is .. unavailable .. this month, so Isaac and Gopher have stepped in to put this newsletter thing together. We may not be as funny as you're used to, but if you'd like a free drink, come see me at the bar. That might help. Maybe. And no, there aren't any flashing lights or fancy pictures this month - I'm still recovering from a whopping hangover. Julie's recovering too, but that's a story I'll let her tell. Two New Featured Articles (and...) Emma Goldman was promoted to Featured status on 2007 December 27. If you don't know Ms. Goldman, she was a Lithuanian anarchist. Aren't many of those around, really, so having one of our very own is special. She'll be dancing the Cha-Cha on the Promenade deck later tonight. Ann Bannon was promoted to Featured status on 2007 December 3. Faithful readers may remember Moni moaning that we didn't mention this promotion in the last newsletter. Happy now? Ludwig Wittgenstein seems to have been dropped from the vaunted roles - he was downgraded to "B class" on 29 December 2007. What a way to end the year! Let's see - we started December with 35 FAs. We added two and dropped one. So somewhere there's a missing FA - has anyone seen one lying around? Jumpaclass Contest winner The winner of 2007's Jumpaclass competition is Fluffball70 (talk · contribs)! Congratulations, Fluffball! Despite strongly being urged to select Love Boat as the next WikiProject Collaboration, she has chosen LGBT Symbols as her prize: please contribute to its improvement - or enter the competition for this year! Ze Portal The marathon efforts of Dev920 against her astonishing abilities of procrastination continued this month, and she managed to update the Portal's main articles. Whether she will finally beat her procrastination pixies in submission and update the biographies remains to be seen, but Jeffpw has leapt to the rescue and taken it upon himself to do all our lovely news. Friends, lend us your goodwill and your eyeballs, and mosey on over to see all Jeff's hard work. Also, back in October 2007, Allstarecho and Benjiboi worked diligently on the "WP:LGBT Random Quote" and "WP:LGBT Random Picture" sections of the portal. They added many new quotes and pictures but, and yes here's the cat's meow friends... you can now use these on your own user pages! To add the "WP:LGBT Random Quote" to your own userpage, use: {{Portal:LGBT/Quotes}} And to add the "WP:LGBT Random Picture" to your own userpage, use: {{Portal:LGBT/Pics}} If you'd like to see it in action, check out Allstarecho's userpage for both in action and Benjiboi's talk page for the Quotes in action! The long, slow race toward FP status continues... Bisexual Awareness Month Folks in Utah are celebrating Bisexual Awareness Month. For our own wikicelebration, Alison suggests we try to bring Bisexuality at least up to good article status. Working on the Utah article would be encouraged, but do it stealthily - they don't like us to be *too* open. A cunning plan In a move sure to bring her fame and fortune at last, Dev920 (talk · contribs) has proposed that an FA buddying system be set up, to help nudge frightened tikes who also happen to write killer ass articles over that initial first FAC hurdle. Anyone interested in shepherding duties, or anyone interested in being made to lie beside still waters (handcuffs are optional), do drop Dev an RSVP so she can start battering those darned pixies... New members Let's give a big Love Boat welcome to all our new members: Mike1981, RAShippy, CoppBob, Altairisfar, Dureo, LessThanClippers William P. Coleman, Grrrlriot, Queer Scout, Kentucky1333, Melty girl, Phenominus, Avazina, Dfeuer, and Lycanthropiclion. We're glad to have you all aboard! New task-force? Zigzig20s has mentioned a desire to work on .. desire. Specifically literature by and about LGBT desire. To facilitate "LGBT Literature" taskforce, there will be shuffleboard and lesbian fiction on the foredeck later in the afternoon. Signup if you're interested. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Your Cruise Director know.

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Treaba buna

A bit late perhaps, but great job on getting CFR featured. Thanks again, Basketballone10 23:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

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Romania

Congradulations on the promotion of CFR, however late it is. If you have not already done so, I suggest you join the Romanian WikiProject. Cheers, Basketball110 _{proof that this user is crazy} 23:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XIV - February 29, 2008 Article Milestones We have one new Featured Article this month - Emily Dickinson was recently promoted thanks to the hard work of Yllosubmarine! We also have 4 new GA-class articles: Ben Daniels, J. Michael Bailey, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, and Walt Whitman were promoted this month, but Dante's Cove was demoted. Wikinews Things are happening over at Misplaced Pages sister project Wikinews. First, Nicholas Turnbull became the first openly-Trans reporter to gain (resounding) accreditation by the Wikinews community. Second, project member David Shankbone is going to Rio de Janeiro at the invitation of the Rio Convention & Visitor's Bureau. Wikinews:Portal:LGBT Lambda Book Report Project member Moni3 has been working on the article for Barbara Gittings and noted that the Lambda Literary Foundation used the lead paragraph from Misplaced Pages, skillfully and lovingly written by Moni3, verbatim in the Lambda Literary Pioneers calendar. Moni3 contacted the Lambda Literary Foundation to let them know, and to ask if we could get a little write-up in the next Lambda Book Report. There is a preliminary text you can find here. Feel free to add to it. It should be no longer than 1,000 words, and it needs to be submitted by March 15. New members Let's give a big LGBT welcome to all our new members: Dylankidwell (talk · contribs), Jay*Jay (talk · contribs), Ftmichael (talk · contribs), AgnosticPreachersKid (talk · contribs), Phyesalis (talk · contribs) , Tullerk (talk · contribs), Ravenwhitehorse (talk · contribs), TigressofIndia (talk · contribs), Yohan euan o4 (talk · contribs), Masculinity (talk · contribs), Renegade Replicant (talk · contribs), and Youngwebprogrammer (talk · contribs)! User categories Place yourself in a user category so you can collaborate with other LGBT/Allied Wikipedians! Mostly for allies of LGBT people; To place yourself in Category:Wikipedians interested in LGBT issues, just add ] to your userpage and change the question mark to your username OR add this userbox by placing {{User:UBX/LGBTinterest}} on your userpage. Mostly for people who identify as either Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or Transgender; To place yourself in Category:LGBT Wikipedians, just add ] to your userpage and change the question mark to your username OR add a userbox found at User:Xaosflux/UBX/Sexuality#Sexual orientation. St. Patrick's Day In honor of Saint Patrick's Day, why don't you consider improving one of these articles: Homosexuality and Roman Catholicism, LGBT rights in the Republic of Ireland, Campaign for Homosexual Law Reform, Recognition of gay unions in Ireland, List of gay and lesbian resource centres in Ireland, or any of the articles in our to-do list? Women's History Month March is Women's History Month in the United States. Help us celebrate by improving History of lesbianism or Lesbian American history! You could also find references for women in our giant list of LGB people to be sorted. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let us know.

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Planeta maimutelor

Uite, stiind ca esti ateu militant, iti trimit link-ul asta, sa te ingrozesti:

http://www.jurnalul.ro/articole/118803/planeta-maimutelor

Cand vad cat de bigoti sunt unii, incep sa iti inteleg frustrarea (nu insa si alegerea filozofica a ateismului). Dpotop (talk) 08:46, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Moldova, Moldovan language

As I expected, the provocations of User:Xasha become clearer, and there is an involvement of User:El C and User:Mikkalai. There is also Bonny, but I'm concerned another edit war will start. Dpotop (talk) 10:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I also resent the message on User:90 1 AQ. I have seen no such message before. At last news, chauvinism (including Romanian one) is not punishable here. Or, if we choose to write it, then we should also say "Russian chauvinist", "Communist extremist", etc. Maybe Mikka should be warned about this policy breach. Dpotop (talk) 10:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, there's Irpen, too. And I got warned under the blanket "Eastern Europe" decision of the Digwuren ArbCom. By El_C, of course. Dpotop (talk) 12:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Cluj-Napoca

Am propus articolul pentru a primi statutul de articol de calitate, însă cererea mea a fost repsinsă. Au existat multe obiecţii (chiar multe care nu aveau nicio legătură cu criteriile pentru WP:FA), şi le-am îndeplinit până acum pe toate (mai puţin unele dintre ele care erau păreri personale, şi nu ţineau strict de criteriile pentru articole de calitate). Acest lucru îl poţi vedea pe această pagină, unde se află conţinutul de la Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Cluj-Napoca/archive1, la care am adăugat comentariile mele despre ce s-a făcut şi ce nu. A mai rămas doar textul articolului (proza), care după cum relatează ceilalţi utilizatori nu este foarte corect (calitatea limbii engleze folosite este slabă). Am înscris articolul pe pagina Misplaced Pages:WikiProject League of Copyeditors/Requests, numai că va dura destul de mult până ce se va găsi un corector ortografic, care să verifice articolul. De aceea dacă ai timp, te invit şi pe tine să faci unele corecturi la articol. Cu mulţumiri, --Danutz (talk) 11:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Romanian check

Hello Ronline. Could you please verify this edit? Thanks. Regards, Húsönd 21:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Rate on quality scale

Hi, I am working on Taiwanese opera and trying to expand it.You wrote you are interested in Taiwan so I would like to ask you to watch that article and rate on the scope of Wikiproject China or give me some opinions or comments on this article. This is my first time to contribute on wikipedia.I will be thankful if you could give me more ideas about this article.ThanksQwaszxfish (talk)04:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:Romanian topics

Hi. Any thoughts on this ? Ha! (talk) 15:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Coldplay

Hi, you seem to be a fairly prolific editor here at Misplaced Pages. So, I don't understand why you would change 'are' to 'is' in Coldplay if it explicitly states NOT to change it? I would imagine that if there was a note explicitly asking not to change it, then one would question why that was there. Anyways, please see the Talk page next time an inline comment like that is made because a note like that usually suggests that an issue was previously brought up on the Talk page and was subsequently resolved with the inline comment. Thanks. (The relevant discussion can be found at Talk:Coldplay/Archive_2#Is_.2F_Are_Dispute) Gary King (talk) 03:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied on my talk page Gary King (talk) 03:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

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Voting

Hi! Here is a voting about Bendery/Bender/Tighina: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Bender%2C_Moldova#Statement_of_Title_Solution --80.142.252.220 (talk) 19:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XV: June 11, 2008 Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! I'm not one to be writing newsletters, but I miss our cruise director, Miss Julie, and our project is drifting along with a few leaking plugs in the bottom of the boat. Hey, it happens. Every group we join goes through changes. If Misplaced Pages weren't so interesting it wouldn't also be so frustrating sometimes. And vice versa. More than one Wikiproject has tumbleweeds blowing through it, but this is one that can't afford to let that happen. Even if you pop in to the talk page of the project, you can let us know you're still around. WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main AIDS article was delisted as a Featured Article last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to WP:Medicine.) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the WP:LGBT talk page about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled. Is Pride POV? We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic gay pride flag, much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is not neutral. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on Conversion therapy? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a mint julep on the verandah and stop caring? Harvey Milk and Jim Jones For the love of all that is holy, no Kool Aid jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk's article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. While it may be accurate, there is a Request for Comment regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer... Queer Studies is offensive! The established branch of study known as Queer studies was brought up as an category for deletion because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors. Lambda Literary Awards What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-fairy, on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put ] around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the WP:LGBT talk page. Or you can start with the Lambda Literary Awards, where the goddess of my altar received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by Katherine V. Forrest's wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the Lambda Literary Awards, which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th . The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website . Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Arthur C. Clarke and Bernard Montgomery Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the Hall monitors and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate. This month's Wiki stars This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) Mulholland Dr. became a featured article in May. This is A Good Thing since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as lesbian porn. I don't care what Benjiboi says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think Laura Harring would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!) Compulsive hoarding of templates Once I saw a harrowing episode of Animal Planet's Animal Cops where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and track lighting in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page. The Violet Quill and magazines Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help. A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation. Mom's nagging for Pride Month It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver. Fresh faces to brighten our pages Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy , Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult, Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003. It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Misplaced Pages. In the immortal words of Miss Julie, "May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon." We miss you, Miss Julie, as well as all the others who have graced our project and are on wiki-breaks or just got fed up with all the nuttiness and went to live their lives. Get your stupid houses built and hurry up and come back. --Moni3 (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.

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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter (July 2008)

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XVI: July 23, 2008 Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! Updates about our latest happenings in the gayest corner of Misplaced Pages. Project News Homosexuality at Good Article Review! An unfortunate effect of a group less active than in the past is that our articles lose integrity. This one is at Good Article Review for that reason. The talk page is quite active as a result. You have the opportunity to help. This is the corest of our core articles, and it needs some attention because it gets a lot of controversial input from many sides. If you can spare any time to edit the article, please do what you can. Paragraph 175 is at Featured Article Review! Soon after we were informed that Homosexuality is being scrutinized, we heard the same for one of our few Featured Articles. As a participant of the Featured Article process, I think this is actually a good thing. The standards for Featured Articles are getting higher with time. But as a member of this project, that means that a few of ours may be de-listed unless someone can swoop in and save them. This one has to do with the designation of homosexuality as a crime in Germany. Most of this article's sources are in German. If anyone has any particular skill in this area, please lend a hand! Gay bathhouse is at Good Article Review! Wtf is going on? I know you folks think I have much experience in a gay bathhouse, and I hate to disappoint you, but I actually do not. I seem like the sort of person who likes to stroll about in a towel. Shocking, no? It appears that Ashleyvh is single-handedly addressing all the problems with this article at its GA Review. While that's pretty impressive, it's also no doubt exhausting. Can anyone help out there? Two GAs and a nominee! In what I hope will counter the jolt of re-evaluating three Good or Featured Articles, José Sarria and Janet Jackson as gay icon passed as Good Articles, and Black Cat Bar (famous San Francisco oft-raided gay bar) is nominated, all by Otto4711. Rock on, man. You're a machine. Good luck with your nominations. What is it about women that make them gay icons? And are there lesbian icons that aren't lesbians? How about bisexual icons? Am I the only lesbian who reacts with soul-trembling fear at the sight of Angelina Jolie? LGBT articles for deletion New WP:LGBT studies member Pinkkeith has done this cool thing. If you click on that link, you'll see all the articles, categories, templates, and miscellany up for deletion. They're usually there because they're not considered to be not notable. That can be a relative concept, and sometimes it has to be argued that topics pertaining to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender issues are notable. Completely naked women! Ha! Made you look! Even the guys are looking. Gay pioneers Kay Lahusen's and Barbara Gittings' collection of photographs are up at the New York Public Library. Want to see images of the first Pride march in 1970 in New York City? How about Sylvia Rivera, drag queen extraordinaire, and Stonewall Riots participant? Or the contact sheet for The Ladder that showed full-face lesbians in print for the first time in US history? Ok I did mention naked women, and it's true. I found naked pictures of Barbara Gittings. But I scrolled through all of them and you'll have to as well. I'm not that mean, though. Here she is in the shower. How cute is she? Tagging articles It seems a recurring issue which articles to tag, and what to say about a topic that's tagged. Certainly, because an article falls under our scope doesn't necessarily make the person gay. Florida Governor Charlie Crist has been rumored to be gay in some newspaper accounts. Although we all know Fred Phelps is supergay, he won't admit it so instead he does the absolutely awfulest anti-gay things on the planet to deflect suspicion. NAMBLA, the red headed stepchild of the LGBT world, is tagged with an explanation we have yet to decide if we'll keep. Member Spotlight: Benjiboi In the lurking I do around and about on Wiki, I've long been astounded at the forbearance Benjiboi has for the utterly insane. Perhaps not so much, since the message on Benji's talk page notes frequent absences due to homophobia and transphobia. But it takes some kind of ... something that I don't have to face the constant anti-gay POV Benji does. Benjiboi is a a bit of a WikiFaerie, a WikiGnome and also a member of the Article Rescue Squadron in addition to being a LGBT project member. A few of Benjiboi's favorite links for making the wikiverse more fab are: Manual of style, a must for anyone redecorating an article. Reliable sources in content review processes, a wonderful and fully linked essay about sourcing and why we need more and better sources. Google scholar, which also searches Google books, is a great help in finding reliable sources. Member Spotlight: Becksguy Becksguy didn’t start actively editing until May 2007. His most frequent tasks on Wiki include reverting vandalism to LGBT articles and creating new project-related articles. He comes from New York state, and to prove not all of us are teenagers (ha! I am so totally 15!) he's in his 60s and retired. Becksguy considers his biggest triumph on Misplaced Pages so far was a DYK in December 2007 for the first-ever newspaper report on what became AIDS, in the New York Native. He's also helped save several project-related articles from deletion. His lowest moment here was getting involved in the discussion on a particular terrorism related article, thinking he could help calm the roiled waters on an extremely contentious subject with multiple edit wars and passionate editors. Here at WP:LGBT, he creates and improves articles that present notable LGBT related subjects in a fair and balanced way, and tries to include more of the significant alternative sexuality related subjects without being an activist, and works to better source project-related articles. On Misplaced Pages as a whole, he says, "I think we need to learn better what processes work for a massive collaborative project. Some of what worked well for a more informal small project doesn’t scale up well. Process is not as important when the participants know each other. We need to get more of the current members to be more active. If more members were energized, the project would be able to accomplish more. We should be, in effect, the smaller and included Misplaced Pages for LGBT related subjects. Overall, I wish we could focus more on content creation and improvement, and less on vandal fighting." Fresh faces to brighten our pages Welcome to all of our new members!: Balin42632003, supposedlydisposable, Axiomdragon, antcjone, Jamesgregg76, Taulapapa, Mushii, Pinkkeith, Gr8lyknow, EricV89, Varnent, Ged_UK, Richie wright1980, Auriel If you have a question about anything, drop your question on our talk page. We'll do our best to answer. "A Supreme Court decision in 1958 reversed a 1956 ruling by a federal district court that U.S. postal authorities were correct in prohibiting the mailing of the Mattachine Society's ONE magazine. The lower court had ruled that ONE was not protected by the First Amendment because the magazine's contents 'may be vulgar, offensive, and indecent even though not regarded as such by a particular group ... because their own social or moral standards are far below those of the general community ... Social standards are fixed by and for the great majority and not by and for a hardened or weakened minority.'" - Michael Bronski in Pulp Friction, 2003 Thanks for being weak and having lowered standards with me. --Moni3 (talk) 00:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.

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WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter

The Miss Julie Memorial LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XVII: November 12, 2008 Wake up WP:LGBT! It's time to kick in gear and get some things done! Project News Wake up! I say this to myself as much as I say it to all of us. I work a lot by myself or with individual editors who spend time at Featured Article Candidates. It seems on November 5 a fog was lifted off my brain that helped me realize that we have massive potential in this project to get things done. Take this allegory, for instance: On Wednesday, Nov. 5, 1980, my 10th-grade American history teacher started class by unfurling The New York Times. She pointed to its triple banner headline: “Reagan Easily Beats Carter; Republicans Gain in Congress; D’Amato and Dodd are Victors.” “Save this paper,” she told us. “This is the start of a whole new era.” Judith Warner from The New York Times It definitely seems a start to a whole new era now. If planets align correctly to remind us that whatever advances we may have made in electing what appears to be an extraordinary president in the US, the moons that revolve around those planets also serve to illustrate it's not that simple. Florida, Arizona, and California all appear to have banned same sex marriage. As someone who was married in California and lives in Florida, this is particularly poignant. We seem to be at the juncture of two converging paths. If we maximize our efforts and take the right ones, we might just be able to affect some change for ourselves. The power of Misplaced Pages and California Proposition 8 (2008) Though what we do is an interesting hobby for some, we have the power to make a difference. California's ballot initiative to ban gay marriage was a fierce fight. It's being challenged right now, but just look at how Misplaced Pages played a role in that: in October 2008, 360,238 people read its article. On November 5, an astounding 467,000 people read it. I commend the editors who work on that article—both those who support and oppose it. A look at the talk page shows a concerted effort to keep it civil and accurate. What can we do? How do you fight ignorance? With information. That's what Misplaced Pages is for. This project is overwhelming with 8,576 articles in its scope. We can continue to work piecemeal as we have in the past, or we can focus on goals. These are examples of areas we can concentrate on. Current political events LGBT Media and Literature LGBT History Sex and sexuality Articles about political issues in the US and around the world that have been especially relevant within the past 5 years Depictions of LGBT people and issues on television, film, newspapers, magazines Topics about gay rights activism and the opposition to it Articles relating to sex and sexuality Florida Amendment 2 (2008), California Proposition 8 (2008), E.O. Green School shooting, etc. The Advocate, Curve (magazine), Washington Blade, Milk (film), Brokeback Mountain, etc. Moral Majority, ACT UP, Queer Nation, Mattachine Society, Jesse Helms, Jerry Falwell, Mathew Shepard, etc. Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, sexual and gender expression, etc. There are more than 8,000 articles to work on. Can we build a list of priorities? Can we build enough enthusiasm to work on these? What if we had editors who oversaw progress in these areas and reported to the talk page or in the newsletter? Surely someone here wants to report on the progress of sex articles. Tony Perkins (irony) from the conservative Family Research Council was heartened by the recent passages of gay marriage bans. The Republican Party is without direction. What's going to take the place of a moderate voice will not be pleasant to our ears. Watching and improving articles of subjects that have opposed gay rights in the past will be of vital importance very soon, I predict. But WP:LGBT is not a very active project All we can do is start somewhere. The first step is answering this newsletter on the project talk page. Join in the discussion. More things we can do Give out more barnstars, and let each other know that what they're doing is valued. Create a guide to stave off burnout, because editors in this project get burned out faster than others. There are many hills to climb. Bring back the monthly collaboration project. Participate in LGBT Peer reviews. Get familiar with the characteristics of Good Articles and get our top priority articles to WP:GA. Keep our project page and open tasks template updated. Use the Newsletter, Moni3! You can suggest what to send out in the newsletter, too! Offer research materials, copy editing, ideas, and support to your fellow editors. Keep the project talk page informed of problems and discussions we should know about. 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You may be able help me with this

Hi, Ro, nice to see you're back. I have a query you may help with. I'm not familiar with the finer points of electoral systems and how they are paralleled by Romania, but, after going through several pages, I concluded that Romania's new system was most likely a variant of mixed member proportional representation. I urged those contributing to the 2008 election article to add this info or at least look it up. The variant I wrote down on the talk page was more or less copied into the article by another user, whereas a third (who was apparently stalking me over stuff in some other article) strongly objected to the terminology and claimed that I was wrong. For all I know (and care) he may even have been right. However, the text in the article was then modified to this: "proportional mixed member system". So fine, I'm wrong, but then why on earth would they keep the text, avoid a specific link, and link to a vague article? If I was right the first time, why not just keep the link to "mixed member proportional representation"? If I was wrong the first time, why is it that they modified the link to something vague, but kept the text very much as it was?

Anyway, if there's anything you can do to sort this out, I'd greatly appreciate it. And if it turns out I was right the first time, could you please modify the link back to what it was? Thanks. Dahn (talk) 02:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Many, many thanks. Hope you keep in touch: I'm sure I speak for all of Romanian wikipedians (the ones who matter) when I say that we have been missing your great input and contributions. I was going to ask your opinions on several other stringent matters, but I myself have been backlogged for a long while and not so keen on getting involved in the "capital issues". If you have the time, please look over Romanians and the corresponding talk page - I can't begin to summarize all the problems raised there, I we haven't yet summarized them all, and the debate involves one of the new and most destructive trolls (who has previously ran amok on the article) - so I'd understand if you should want to postpone it. It could however be something within our common areas of interest. Cheers, Dahn (talk) 06:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Re-ordering of Template:Same-sex unions

Hey, I just saw that you re-organised the mentioned template. Although I added the categories LGBT rights in Europe and LGBT rights in Oceania I have to agree that it's indeed too much clutter. However, I do think it is relavant to the table since both articles give an overview of the specific rights per country of both continents. Is there a way, without creating too much clutter in the table, to include them in some way? Take care, LightPhoenix (talk) 12:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

FYI: New project AdminWatch (working title)

Hi, only found out today about your project WP:OMBUDSMAN, which got off to a good start (I read through the project page and the discussion page) but faltered on the way to completion. A new project that a bunch of us are working on is AdminWatch (working title). Please feel free to drop by at any time and weigh in with your thoughts and your experience.--Goodmorningworld (talk) 22:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Roma as a Romani group

There are discussion for the creation of an article about Roma as a Romani group, but there are some problems about the best way to do that. Can you take a look, if you have the time, please? The discussion are mostly at Talk:Roma people. Thanks! AKoan (talk) 10:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Admins on ro.wp

Hi. You've got some lectures for this week :D Cheers. --Gikü (talk) 22:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Ron. Related to what Gicu wrote above, please check your talk page on ro.wp. Cheers. — AdiJapan 14:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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Same-sex marriage in California

I read on an earlier talk page that you too agreed that only MA and CT should be listed under same-sex marriage, yet a user keeps putting CA back with despite the fact that the marriages are no longer able to be performed, only recognized. I don't believe that CA has any place there, but the user seems to think otherwise. How do we resolve this or make a compromise? I honestly find its inclusion in the category to be confusing. Vickiloves08 (talk) 02:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

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Re:Rio Grande do Sul

Hi, Ronline. There is much confusion between gay and activists here in Brazil and certainly those of Rio Grande do Sul are the most prominent, but misunderstand what happened (and have more access to the press than in other regions of Brazil). And unfortunately the news of the BBC contain large errors (possibly also the journalist did not understand very well what was happening) ...

Federal law in Brazil (Law 6015 of 1973, article 127) provides that "The Registration of Titles and Documents will be made a transcript ... of particular instruments, to evidence the obligations of any conventional value. " Based on this article, valid throughout Brazil, homosexual unions are being recorded, as if a contract on any trading arm etc. As some registrars felt that the homosexual union can not be registered to go against the Constitution, refused it. The Court of Rio Grande do Sul in 2004 ordered the registers that record such contracts, based on the above article. This happened in other parts of Brazil also, but there was so much news in the press. The contracts are recorded even in areas where no such order of the court, because many registrars never refused the registration or have been doing so since that decision in Rio Grande do Sul (in the city of São Paulo, had similar decision well before that, in september,2002, see http://www.irtdpjsaopaulo.com.br/1Vara.UniaoEstavel.htm, in portuguese). Two other states have the same administrative order to register: Roraima (http://www.athosgls.com.br/noticias_visualiza.php?contcod=24661) and Piauí (http://www.meionorte.com/noticias,tj-pi-obriga-cartorios-a-registrar-uniao-homossexual,49632.html). See that the law is federal. The fact that some states clarify that contracts must be registered does not mean that the contracts in other states can not be recorded. In many places the contracts are recorded because there is no doubt that really can be.

But the contract can not compel a third person to do something (and unrelated to the peace courts, which celebrate marriage, which are recorded in another public registry). The order (not law, only an administrative order of the court) does not require judges and judges of peace, only the records that record all such contracts. The great mistake in the BBC report is referring to "judge of peace" which are those that celebrate marriage. There is no rule about that in Brazil. And as Article 22 of the Constitution, only the Union may legislate on civil rights (which includes the right to family, marriage, inheritance etc.).

See the old and the current figure. At first (left), only the Rio Grande do Sul (the southern most state of Brazil) appears as allowing civil union; in the new one (right), all Brazil appears. That seems much more correct, then the Brazilian law is the same and these contracts are recorded in various parts of Brazil.

Thus, I expect the text to make clear that the legislation on marriage or civil union is the same anywhere in Brazil, as already occurs with the final figure. Thanks, Luiz30 (talk) 13:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

New response

Hello, Ronline! I want to response your question to Luiz30 (in fact, he has writed to you because I ask him. I am graduated in Law (sorry my poor English...) and I know reasonably about gay rights in Brazil. I have problems with my account here (I want only “Jur” as pt.wiki, but I didn’t have sucess).

Yes, all gay couples can register their partnership anywhere in Brazil. In three states (RS, RR and PI), and in São Paulo city), the civil law notary must to register. In other places, there is no explicit order (I guess). This does not mean that the civil law notary do not respect the law (which is federal). In such states, if the civil law notary refuses to register it, he is committing an administrative violation. In locals where there is nothing written, the civil law notary interpret the law, but if anyone disagree, he can contest him. In Rio de Janeiro, I found this document where the civil law notary explain the same-sex civil union can be register there. In Brazil, a private agent similar to civil law notary can register contracts, any contracts. In Brazil, the Public Registers Act, (Act 6015 of 1973) lists several kind of notary where you can register something: Registration of Real Estate, Civil Registration (births, marriages, deaths), Registration of Legal Entities (associations, foundations, small businesses ) and Registry of Titles and Documents (where you register any other type of contract). There are thousands of such civil law notary in Brazil, known as "notary". The people in general does not know the difference between different sort of notary. But they are all headed by individuals (which is subject to public contest), but the registers are public (when the owner leaves, he must pass the entire collection to the next responsible for the registers). An official marriage (between man and woman) is registered in the Civil Registry, but these contracts (same sex) are registered in the Registry of Titles and Documents (for generics contracts), but all these registers are the responsibility of an individual who receives a delegation of government (civil law notary).

What rights have the partners? None! It is only a contract between two capable people, which may create rights and obligations between themselves. Register it in office means that everyone must recognize that union exists; none can say “it don’t exist”. But that does not give automatic right to inheritance, tax advantages, immigration rights, social security. It can not generate obligations to third parties (only the obligation to recognize that the contract exists).

This contract is not similar to the PACS in France or Portugal, because it don’t creates rights against third parties. These contracts are registered in a generic civil law notary where, for example, I can register a love letter or the owners of two dogs can register the marriage of their dogs ... The Registry of Titles and Documents (in Portuguese:”Registro de Títulos e Documentos”) is a notary that accepts registering anything that is not against the law. In the decision in the city of São Paulo, it was decided that there it´s possible to register the coexistence of a man still married with another woman. What effect has this contract or another between two men? In practice, only to facilitate proof in a future prosecution (about inheritance, for example). There is much controversy in Brazil if such unions are or not treated as stable unions between persons of different sex (the last are in Federal Constitution). The rights are still depending on each specific court decision.

The bill in 1151 is very different, because its text provides rights for social security, immigration, discount in income tax, and provides that the recgisters are made in the Civil Registry (the same civil law notary where marriages are registered). In this bill, the registered partnership will modificate marital status (I guess this is too strong and the bill current text - as emended in Low House - don’t contain this). For register, they must prove that they are not married or have no partnership with another person (currently there is no control in that generic register).

A current right for same-sex unions is the social security (only for workers in the private sector). But that is not in law but in a court decision of 2000 that forced the INSS (the Federal Social Security Institute) to recognize the homosexual partner as beneficiary. The justice forced the INSS to issue an ordinance allowing this, but the case was not finally dismissed until today (there are several appeals against that decision pending the trial). The partnership is now registered in this office is a generic way of proving to the INSS this partnership.

The text that you showed () is very good and very technical and looks great, without errors, I guess. See that large advances on civil partnership in Brazil are in the field of judicial decisions, which are gaining more importance as confirmed by higher courts in Brasilia. In terms of laws, I agree with the text that there are few state and local laws granting rights to social security to the gay partner of local public server (I don’t know exactly what states are these, I have to find it, but I remember I have seen some news about it).

In conclusion, it is correct to say that in Brazil the fact unions can be registered anywhere in the country. However, there is not a standard contract, the partners choose what to write, but the simple registration does not provide any automatic right for the couple (except social security for private workers, until the court decision requiring the INSS to recognize it). Sorry the extense message... Hugs, Jur in pt (talk) 23:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

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Jhonghe vs. Zhonghe

I see you moved the entry for Jhonghe City to Zhonghe City. It looks like you are saying that this is the new official transliteration? Can you please indicate a reference for the official change? I just checked the official city website , and they have Jhonghe in the banner. Thanks! AJseagull1 (talk) 22:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

AJseagull1, as of January 1, 2009 Hanyu Pinyin officially replaced the various older Romanization systems in use in Taiwan. Except for the name of Taipei (Taibei in Hanyu Pinyin) most other place names will likely slowly migrate to the new standard. --Everlong (talk) 05:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter (June 2009)

The Miss Julie Memorial LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter: Special Pride 2009 Booty call edition

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Romanian Misplaced Pages

Wouldn't you like to return to the Romanian Misplaced Pages? I don't know what was the reason of your departure, but the project needs as many administrators as possible. I hope to see you back there! Remigiu (talk) 18:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

What to do about Vlax Romani?

I'm currently taking the lead on figuring out what to do about the Vlax Romani Misplaced Pages (rmy:). Its only administrator, Desiphral, has been abusing his account on various languages' Wikis, letting other people use it for paid editing. I firmly believe that he should not be an administrator anywhere, given his actions and his support of paid editing.

However, I realize that in suggesting he should be de-sysopped on Vlax Romani, I need to suggest some kind of way forward for the Vlax Romani Misplaced Pages. This is particularly difficult because (a) I know next to nothing about the language, and (b) it's a situation I have very little control over because I'm just an en: admin who does very little inter-project coordination.

I see that you've done some editing there, and you appear to know the language. If, as I hope, an effort starts on Meta to find one or more people who are willing to become rmy: admins to replace Desiphral, would you be willing to do so? Do you know of any other trustworthy contributors who speak Vlax Romani?

Thanks, rspεεr (talk) 01:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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OMG, you're an atheist ROMANIAN? I never knew there was such a thing! And I thought I was the only Romanian living out of the city I was born in... :P sorry, not wiki-related... X( --68.49.32.245 (talk) 13:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

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Version of Nuclearvacuum to international LGBT map

The version of LGBT rights international may by Nuclearvacuum is wrong and has many mistakes. For example in countries like Oman or United Arab Emirates homosexuality is illegal. Pleas have a look on the mistakes by Nuclearvacuum. GLGermann (talk) 11:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Quick question concerning Recognition of same-sex unions in Italy

Hi Ronline :), considering how up to date you are with the status of same-sex unions around the world, I was wondering if you knew if the common-law scheme mentioned here was still on the table, or if the debate has died for the time being. I was going to add it to the Same-sex marriage legislation around the world article, but even after some careful searching, I couldn't find any recent updates. Thanks for being such a great contributor on the same-sex marriage articles! VoodooIsland (talk) 02:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much for finding out about the current status, as you mentioned, the status in Italy seems to be pretty unpredictable. I found the links to be of great help and appreciate you helping me out with the information.
It will also be interesting to see how the status in Greece plays out. While the country seems to be very socially conservative, I'm been surprised by how many high-ranking religious leaders and additional government officials have been relatively apathetic towards same-sex marriage. I remember reading a while ago that originally the partnership scheme was intended just for opposite-sex couples, so I assume the party adjusted their platform. I know there's a similar proposal in Bulgaria, but this article seems to be a bit cloudy on the subject, first stating that a registered partnership bill is included in the family code but does not benefit same-sex couples and then slightly implying that the government intends to introduce such? Or at least that's just how I read it.
Anyway, thanks for clearing up what's going on Italy. Considering how far behind they are when compared alongside other Western European nations, it will be interesting if a future government decides to just go ahead and introduce a same-sex marriage bill. VoodooIsland (talk) 02:46, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I guess it's simply wishful thinking for Italy to go ahead with full same-sex marriage, and despite increasing support, as you said, the Vatican still remains a heavy influence. It will be interesting to see how the status plays out within the Balkans and surrounding countries, as these nations seem to have even less gay-friendly attitudes than those in the Baltic states. The push for same-sex marriage in Albania is what really surprised me, as I remember when I created the Recognition of same-sex unions in Albania article I initially thought of abandoning it as I never thought that developments would ever occur within the decade, especially since as of now, it's one of the few European countries without an anti-discrimination law. It seems like more and more surprises from countries that seem the least likely for such continue to have progress concerning same-sex marriage, and it will be interesting to see how it develops in Asia, particularly East Asia. Thanks again for being so helpful. VoodooIsland (talk) 16:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

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More poll results

Hi again; I thought you might be interested in some new poll results for same-sex marriage in Maine. Here is the link: http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/11/02/Maine_Poll__51__Yes,_47__No_on_1/ –BMRR (talk) 23:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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Could you look in on Radio Guerrilla? Looks to me like it is accumulating vanity material, but I don't know enough of what is going on in Romania today to dare to take it on. - Jmabel | Talk 02:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Ronline! Thank you for raising the issue at my talk page. I think you were practical to remove Australia from the list, as even while the bill is not technically dead, we do have to apply a fair degree of probability to the worldwide status as it changes so frequently and remains so unpredictable. I had once pondered over whether or not Taiwan should be included, but I deemed for a change in that present legislation to be too unlikely to be worthy of inclusion. I think Australia, and any other similar case that should arise for that matter, should be treated proportionally. It's a shame that Australia is lagging behind, particularly when greater (potential) progress is being achieved in Albania, though on that subject, I've found it a bit strange to not have discovered any surfacing updates since the initial report. While in most countries the lack of a public vote is crucial to preventing anti-same-sex union bans from being passed or marriage laws from being repealed, it's a little disappointing that the government isn't responding to the public opinion, but once again, as far as these matters are concerned, that tends to be a good thing; just not in Australia's case.

Hmm, as far as the listings for officially dead bills are concerned, I'm personally a bit wary of including legislation that had been presented but never voted on, and subsequently died due to time but not by any form of vote. A mirroring example of this would be with Israel, where a same-sex marriage bill was introduced, but never voted on and later expired after a changing of government. Examples that would correspond with Australia would be Latvia and Switzerland, where a registered partnership bill and a same-sex marriage bill in the latter had been introduced, but voted down by a committee. These had been added several months ago, but were swiftly removed. I'm similarly wary about including these listings in the article, as it would contradict with past criteria for other like-minded articles, such as Same-sex marriage legislation in the United States. I'm sure that there have been quite a few measures introduced and then rejected by a committee across the world, such as Paraguay (civil union) and Costa Rica (same-sex marriage), and I feel the list would grow far too complicated and overcrowded if such were to be included, and I would imagine that it would be difficult to track down the majority of such votes, especially when they have occurred in countries as backwards towards LGBT rights as Paraguay and Latvia. My personal criteria would be the following:

• Include a listing if the bill had been rejected in the Upper House or Lower House
• Include a listing if the bill had passed, but had been vetoed by the head of state

Two hypotheticals that I can think of would be if such a law had been rejected via referendum (such as if Switzerland had rejected the registered partnership law), in which we would make a note under final outcome of its repeal. The other hypothetical would be concerning a status akin to that of Venezuela. Currently, the quasi-civil union/anti-LGBT discrimination/sex-reassignment recognition bill has passed its first reading, but has yet to proceed. I think that if the bill was somehow to expire, than it would be worthy to list Venezuela as failed, and failed whenever the bill expired. I'm very open to any changes for a criteria for the article and I think that your suggestions were great should we choose to list cases like Australia. Anyhow, let me know if I somehow misunderstood one of your points and I apologize if I rambled a little bit.

Anyhow, I agree that 2009 has been a truly fascinating year for same-sex marital rights. It's been very exciting to see so many South American nations showing signs of eminent progress, and I believe that Argentina has a reasonably positive outcome upon its horizon. The announcement in Mexico City looks also fairly promising, as the district has taken some overwhelmingly liberal positions on various other issues as of late (such as abortion), so I'm encouraged by the news. I've almost stopped trying to guess where same-sex marriage developments are going to occur, as if I had been asked to guess which would be the last country in Europe to legalize same-sex marriage, I think I would have selected Albania—even when considering the likes of Serbia, Bulgaria, Belarus, or Russia. But again, I've found it slightly alarming that no updates have surfaced, and the announcement definitely rang me with the "too good to be true" vibe. But I suppose it's too early to be making any final assumptions. The same-sex marriage "movement" in Asia is what fascinates me the most. You would think that at least one Asian country would have legalized gender-neutral marriage by now, but in a way, it's also not much of a surprise due to cultural outlooks and little pressure to do so. Whether or not either make progress (though the latter is not even in Asia), I believe that should same-sex marriage be legalized in Nepal or Albania, I feel that some fairly surprising countries could also join the bunch; inspired by possible economic outcomes. Particularly in Nepal, where progress looks unpredictable yet fairly promising due to continuing pressure from LGBTs inside the government, I think that if SSM was legalized and garnered the country some notable profits, this could possibly raise the issue of SSM in other less-wealthy nations, though Nepal's profit from such weddings would first have to be publicized, and S-S couples from western nations would also be preferable. Due to the fairly passive attitude towards homosexuality in many Southeast Asian countries, it could be possible that some would want to jump on the bandwagon after having seen its profits in Nepal; the most likely candidates being those of Thailand or Cambodia. Getting back to Nepal, it would be truly interesting if the issue is raised singularly and not included within the forthcoming constitution like commonly reported, as I'm quite curious to see how such a vote would be handled by a communist-dominated legislature, particularly since most communist states or states with predominantly communist legislatures seem very eager to push the entire issue of LGBT rights under the rug as quietly as possible. As far as Japan will go, I honestly think it will be quite a while before same-sex marriage is legalized there, primarily due to apathy in the country. China and Vietnam will be other interesting places to watch, though I won't be holding my breath for progress in either of these countries any time soon. And to wrap myself up so I don't keep going on and on :), it looks like the future of same-sex marriage in Uruguay looks to be encouraging, as Broad Front was reelected as expected. Considering that they were able to pass a gay adoption bill (a subject that seems to be even more of a taboo than same-sex marriage for the world apart from the US), it's possible that it could be added to the list by next December. VoodooIsland (talk) 01:53, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

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--The Olive Branch 19:26, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

You and Betawiki:

Dear Ronline,
I'm Nemo from Betawiki/translatewiki.net and I'm writing to you because I'm collecting some information about the history of the project and the people and facts who made the difference in it. You are user number 14, so you're probably among those; maybe you even remember that it used to be named Nuka-Wiki (from 2005 on).
It would be wonderful if you could tell me something about how you first reached the wiki (who/what told you about it and how), why you decided to register and contribute, what it meant to you, what made you come back (or not) in the following years, if you spread the word about it, what have been in your opinion the most important facts or discussions in these years, etc.: just anything you want and as much as you can or want.
You can reply on my talk (I'm watching it), or email me, or just use this page to add comments, missing points and/or links to other resources, summaries, blogposts, articles, wiki or mailing lists discussions, as you want. Thank you very much for you help!
Regards, Nemo 10:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Flags and Same-sex marriage legislation around the world

Could you give your opinion here? Ron 1987 (talk) 12:50, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Local government areas in Australia: religion and other demographic data

Thanks for your great work in the updating 2011 Australian Census data for religions in local government areas. This, along with other demographic data, has required updating for sometime, and is on my "to do" list. I was thinking of creating a wikitable that mapped out factors such as religion, population profile, income, employment, country of birth, etc. The table may also have Australian/State/capital city data to compare how that local government area stacks up against the mean/average. I know this sounds a little complicated from just free text, but I think that once you have the structure in place, it will be easy to populate with numbers. What do you think? Rangasyd (talk) 00:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello

I want to inform you that I have nominated this article for deletion: List of towns in Romania by Romani population. Saywhaaaaaat (talk) 21:18, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Chris Air

Dear Ronline, as the creator of this article, I ask you to give some sources. Did this airline ever operated any aircraft? If so, which? Did it ever become operational at all? Best regards and thanks for your effort. --FoxyOrange (talk) 12:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

User:Ronline

Hi. User:Ronline has been indefinitely fully protected since May 2007. Could you please unprotect this page? --MZMcBride (talk) 21:07, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:OM listed at Redirects for discussion

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Nomination of List of bus routes in Bucharest for deletion

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Wiki Loves Pride 2014

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Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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Permisiunea de administrator

Bună ziua, sunt un steward de pe meta. O noua politică a fost creată, despre permisiunile avansate (administrator, birocrat etc.) a fost adoptată de comunitați mai recent. După politica aceasta stewards revizualizează activitatea administratorilor de pe Wikipedii care nu au deja o politică de inactivitate. Dumneavoastră sunteți in criteriu de inactivitate (nici o editare sau acțiune în jurnal) pe rowiktionary, unde sunteți administator. Din cauza că rowiktionary nu are proces de revizualizare se aplică cea globală. Dacă doriți să mențineți drepturile, trebuie să notificați comunitatea că stewards v-au trimis această informație despre inactivitate ca să discutați. Dacă comunitatea dorește să păstrați drepturile, contactați stewards la m:Stewards' noticeboard, și dați un link la discuția din comunitate, unde declară că vor să mențineți drepturile. Noi, stewarzii vom evalua răspunsurile. Dacă nu este primit nici un răspuns într-o lună, vă vom retrage permisiunile. În caz de îndoială, vom evalua răspunsurile și vom verifica răspunsurile şi vom înainta o discuţiei comunităţii locale pentru a disputa.Dacă aveți vreo întrebare, contactați-ne pe m:Stewards' noticeboard. Cele mai bune, Rschen7754 03:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Bucharest RATB route

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Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Romanian political party

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1. Create or improve LGBT-related Misplaced Pages pages and showcase the results of your work here
2. Document local LGBT culture and history by taking pictures at pride events and uploading your images to Wikimedia Commons
3. Contribute to an LGBT-related task force at another Wikimedia project (Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, etc.)

Looking for topics? The Tasks page, which you are welcome to update, offers some ideas and wanted articles.

This campaign is supported by the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group, an officially recognized affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation. The group's mission is to develop LGBT-related content across all Wikimedia projects, in all languages. Visit the affiliate's page at Meta-Wiki for more information, or follow Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook. Remember, Wiki Loves Pride is about creating and improving LGBT-related content at Wikimedia projects, and content should have a neutral point of view. One does not need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Misplaced Pages, plain and simple, and all are welcome! If you have any questions, please leave a message on the campaign's talk page.

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RachelWex 17:49, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

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About that changed redirect...

---Deleted by the user --- Thisuserisepic (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Thisuserisepic I restored the redirect, as I told you on IRC it's not suitable for main space as it contained no sources. Work on it in draft space. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:01, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Romanian legislative election, 2008

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MfD nomination of Portal:Bucharest

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MfD nomination of Portal:Romani people

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