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The result was '''delete'''. The "keep" arguments do not really substantiate the sourcing of this topic. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 10:07, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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All we have on this topic are four sentences from three listings. A search brought only primary and unreliable source material. Not enough to meet the ] criteria of the ]: We can't write an encyclopedia that does justice to the topic with this little information. The entire "controversy" section has no mention in reliable, secondary sources. There are no worthwhile redirect targets, since ] only accepts entries with their own articles. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 21:49, 27 November 2019 (UTC) All we have on this topic are four sentences from three listings. A search brought only primary and unreliable source material. Not enough to meet the ] criteria of the ]: We can't write an encyclopedia that does justice to the topic with this little information. The entire "controversy" section has no mention in reliable, secondary sources. There are no worthwhile redirect targets, since ] only accepts entries with their own articles. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 21:49, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::: My bad—wasn't a thesis but a 100-level course paper. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 22:18, 27 November 2019 (UTC) :::: My bad—wasn't a thesis but a 100-level course paper. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 22:18, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
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*: Agree with what claim, though? The book citations are cursory mentions and the only source with depth is the undergrad thesis. The bulk of the article text consists of primary sources and original research whose removal was reverted. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 13:57, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' - Brief mentions aren't ]. I have to agree with czar there's very little here to go on. ] ] 13:41, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' No significant coverage from reliable sources and therefore fails ]. Most coverage in reliable sources are just trival mentions. ] ] 13:49, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. The "keep" arguments do not really substantiate the sourcing of this topic. Sandstein 10:07, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

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All we have on this topic are four sentences from three listings. A search brought only primary and unreliable source material. Not enough to meet the significant coverage criteria of the GNG: We can't write an encyclopedia that does justice to the topic with this little information. The entire "controversy" section has no mention in reliable, secondary sources. There are no worthwhile redirect targets, since List of MUDs only accepts entries with their own articles. czar 21:49, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. czar 21:49, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
"Three books" = three mentions from listings in three books (listicles of the 1990s). That citation is the same story: A brief mention pulled from an undergrad thesis (Zen 2003). Can't write an article on this topic without delving into primary source original research, as in the material you restored to the article. czar 22:04, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
Undergrad theses occasionally get it right, one way we know when that happens is they get cited and quoted in a journal, which is what happened here. MrOllie (talk) 22:11, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
My bad—wasn't a thesis but a 100-level course paper. czar 22:18, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
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