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The result was '''delete'''. If anyone wants no merge anything, tehy can have the text, although I'd counsel against it because very little of the content is based on reliable third-party sources. ] 06:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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Non-notable website. Lack of secondary sources. If relevant, material could be merged into ] after deletion. (Note: that article and involved editors are in the evaluation stage for an ArbCom case. See ]) ] <small>]</small> 01:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC) Non-notable website. Lack of secondary sources. If relevant, material could be merged into ] after deletion. (Note: that article and involved editors are in the evaluation stage for an ArbCom case. See ]) ] <small>]</small> 01:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' and merge any material based on secondary sources to ], as nominator. ] <small>]</small> 02:42, 9 December 2006 (UTC) * '''Delete''' and merge any material based on secondary sources to ], as nominator. ] <small>]</small> 02:42, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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** '''Comment''' search for link:www.brahmakumaris.info or link:brahmakumaris.info shows zero links to this site. ] <small>]</small> 17:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC) ** '''Comment''' search for link:www.brahmakumaris.info or link:brahmakumaris.info shows zero links to this site. ] <small>]</small> 17:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' Clearly using wikipedia for advertisement purposes. It goes against and it does not have any credibility (as far as notability of the author,degrees,level of expertise, etc.) ] 15:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC) * '''Delete''' Clearly using wikipedia for advertisement purposes. It goes against and it does not have any credibility (as far as notability of the author,degrees,level of expertise, etc.) ] 15:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' non-notable and reads as an advertisement. &mdash; <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">] </font> 16:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' non-notable and reads as an advertisement. &mdash; ] 16:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' in agreement with Jossi's 'no links' comment. IF there are good sources showing that the group the site says it represents exists is notable then I'd suggest refactoring the article to discuss the group. Since their site isn't notable I think this is unlikely. ] 18:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC) *'''Delete''' in agreement with Jossi's 'no links' comment. IF there are good sources showing that the group the site says it represents exists is notable then I'd suggest refactoring the article to discuss the group. Since their site isn't notable I think this is unlikely. ] 18:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom ] 19:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Merge'''. It does make page one of Google for a search on the 'Brahma Kumaris' but despite references on ], , and other ] or cult-watch experts, it is probably too early to feature it - so would fail ]. '''As there is a documented history going back to the 1930s, I suggest merge with ] or move to new article on counter-Brahma Kumaris activity and/or page for support groups for cult survivors as per ], ] etc.''' ] 02:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
*: '''<small>— ] (] • ]) has made ] outside this topic. {{ #if: {{{2|}}} | The preceding ] comment was added at {{{2}}} (UTC{{{3|}}}).}}</small>'''
*'''Delete''' does not meet WP:WEB criteria #1. ] 06:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. ] | ] 10:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the ]. </small> -- ] 08:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

*'''Merge''' with ] ] 23:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' per nom. ] 18:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. It can appropriate to have more than one article on a particular cult or religious group. The ] page, for example, currently includes links to some 55 distinct wikipedia articles. The article proposed for deletion hosts information about the Brahma Kumaris organization, current and former members beyond the group's beliefs, practices and history as covered on the ] page. Specifically, many ex-members have written personal accounts of their experiences, as well as narrating the traumas of other ex-members unable to provide their own accounts, their conflicted lives having ended in suicide. While the content of such pages may (and have been) debated, these references exist, and properly belong to a discussion that considers the cultlike aspects of this particular group. These resources have been aggregated at the BrahmaKumarisInfo website, representing the movement to disseminate knowledge about the group's cultlike behaviors. It is the name of this website that gives the page its title. The high activity of this site, involving thousands of posts from hundreds of former and current members, and splinter group members and ex-members, justifies an additional article about the cultlike behaviors that can be found within the Brahma Kumaris as well as their human, legal and social consequences. ] 04:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
** ''This user has only 27 edits, all in Brahma Kumaris articles. ''<small>— ] (] • ''']) has made ] outside this topic. {{ #if: {{{2|}}} | The preceding ] comment was added at {{{2}}} (UTC{{{3|}}}).}}'''</small><small>]</small> 03:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

*'''Keep or Merge''' In viewing the current ] it reads like an Advert of the Cult. I agree with the above by ] as it does have a large data base and seems to offer support services to the full spectrum of this area of beliefs and given the current condition of the ] article the need is there as the cult members seem to be sitting on the article.] 06:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
::'''<small>— ] (] • ]) has made ] outside this topic. {{ #if: {{{2|}}} | The preceding ] comment was added at {{{2}}} (UTC{{{3|}}}).}}</small>'''

* '''Keep''' The Brahma Kumaris have a history of attempting to suppress information about them, even from their own literature, as is clearly seen on the ] entry and supporting discussions. BrahmaKumaris.info is the most extensive and diverse, independant source of information on this religious cult, and as such is worthy of recognition in Misplaced Pages ] 03:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If anyone wants no merge anything, tehy can have the text, although I'd counsel against it because very little of the content is based on reliable third-party sources. Sandstein 06:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Standard closing disclaimer: If this discussion contained any opinions offered by single purpose accounts or arguments not based on applicable policy, they were discounted in assessing consensus for this decision. Sandstein 06:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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Non-notable website. Lack of secondary sources. If relevant, material could be merged into Brahma Kumaris after deletion. (Note: that article and involved editors are in the evaluation stage for an ArbCom case. See WP:RFAR#Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University) ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

— Riveros11 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Merge with Brahma Kumaris RaveenS 23:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom. WMMartin 18:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. It can appropriate to have more than one article on a particular cult or religious group. The Scientology page, for example, currently includes links to some 55 distinct wikipedia articles. The article proposed for deletion hosts information about the Brahma Kumaris organization, current and former members beyond the group's beliefs, practices and history as covered on the Brahma Kumaris page. Specifically, many ex-members have written personal accounts of their experiences, as well as narrating the traumas of other ex-members unable to provide their own accounts, their conflicted lives having ended in suicide. While the content of such pages may (and have been) debated, these references exist, and properly belong to a discussion that considers the cultlike aspects of this particular group. These resources have been aggregated at the BrahmaKumarisInfo website, representing the movement to disseminate knowledge about the group's cultlike behaviors. It is the name of this website that gives the page its title. The high activity of this site, involving thousands of posts from hundreds of former and current members, and splinter group members and ex-members, justifies an additional article about the cultlike behaviors that can be found within the Brahma Kumaris as well as their human, legal and social consequences. Duality Rules 04:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep or Merge In viewing the current Brahma Kumaris it reads like an Advert of the Cult. I agree with the above by Duality Rules as it does have a large data base and seems to offer support services to the full spectrum of this area of beliefs and given the current condition of the Brahma Kumaris article the need is there as the cult members seem to be sitting on the article.LogicUser 06:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
— LogicUser (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Keep The Brahma Kumaris have a history of attempting to suppress information about them, even from their own literature, as is clearly seen on the Brahma Kumaris entry and supporting discussions. BrahmaKumaris.info is the most extensive and diverse, independant source of information on this religious cult, and as such is worthy of recognition in Misplaced Pages Howiemac 03:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
— Howiemac (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.