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	Do you know for sure that that is real and not a hoax? —] <sup>]</sup> 10:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
	:To remove all the other info, I cut and pasted the vital part into the email...it's a fact.--] 10:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
	::OK, thanks. A little Christmas cheer perhaps. :-( —] <sup>]</sup> 10:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::Nah...I just learned it was a joke...guess I should follow up on this issue better...sorry.--] 10:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
	::::I would have thought you to be more of a skeptic than to get fooled by a standard Internet joke. It sure read like one. :-) —] <sup>]</sup> 10:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::::Yeah, but the person who sent it to me, never jokes...and is an executive series (ES) level emloyee...he also sent it to about 100 other people...probably trying to see how many of them called his bluff...I guess I failed his test!--] 10:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
	::::::I wonder how long until someone else sends it to me that's less connected than you are. I'm sure it's out there now. —] <sup>]</sup> 10:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::::::My connections these days are only via email...frankly, I am suprised he still had my address since I no longer work for them. I guess he just hit send all. But, I did call his hoax by sending him the link to the website I have also emailed you which was sent to me by ].--] 11:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
	::::::::It may be unwitting. Sometimes worms and viruses forge "from" addresses or possibly his machine is infected. ] ] 01:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
	::::LOL, seems about right. Taking your orders from email? How much do they pay?—] 03:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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	== CamperStrike ==
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	You should read what CamperStrike wrote in my talk after I pointed out he removed the Human History section in Yellowstone. This guy is nothing but trouble. I wish he could be removed from the site completely. And the fact he doesn't always use his name doesn't help his case. ] 23:08, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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	== Accusations ==
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	I want you to explain how my question on ]'s talk page is a violation of ]. Four other editors have now discussed this editors actions with me and they have all stated that they find him to be disruptive. The edit I cited that he did clearly shows that he completely removed an entire section froma featured article, and then mispelled a number of words deliberately. PLease respond here, as I have your page watchlisted.--] 06:05, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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	The edit he perfomed--] 06:05, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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	:Hello MONGO, The answer to the question is found here: ]
	:Thank you, have a good night.
	:Please keep in mind CamperStrike has less than 1000 edits.
	:I still await the answer to my questions:
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	:# And what evidence do you have that I am committing revenge? Revenge for what? ] (]) 06:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Hi Travb. I have not broken the blocking policy...see my evidence about your behavior at .
	::I posted plenty of evidence that you are seeking revenge, including your own words at .--] 07:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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	== Soda Springs, ID ==
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	] is a very small town in the southeast area of Idaho. I passed through it on my way to Jackson, Grand Teton, and Yellowstone this past spring, coming up from Salt Lake City. I wasn't impressed as I thought I'd be with the town, but any time I travel, regardless of venue I find enjoyment out of what I see. It wasn't bad, I just think it was way over hyped for what it was. The geyser you saw in my is a time controlled geyser that goes off every hour (that's what the little house next to it is). It's not a town I would visit unless it's on your way. The whole idea of soda springs is that there are a lot of bubbling geysers, thus lots of carbon in the water, and thus the water is like club soda if you were to drink it. Though, never drink that water, it was dirty and who knows what bacteria live in that water. Here's another from Soda Springs I took. Although, if any good came out of Soda Springs, I was able to expand that article with a picture :). It was interesting, I actually took some pictures out west on that trip with Misplaced Pages in mind. One last thing since you've been in that area, regarding this , using my GPS I noticed this sign was about a quarter mile to the south than where it should be... ] 16:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Yes...that 45th parallel sign is inbetween Gardiner MT and Mammoth Hot Springs. I worked for years for the NPS, and my guess is if we contacted them and told them that their sign is in the wrong location, they would do, well, nothing! where the sign should be. I know I have heard of Soda Springs, but I guess I just didn't over to that section of Idaho as much as I would have liked, spending most of my time on the east side of the Tetons, up in the Yellowstone park region and northwest of there where I spent my childhood in Missoula.--] 18:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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	== Indef-block ==
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	No apology needed. ;) --] 21:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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	== seen your new subpage? ==
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	]. Yeah, you might wanna delete that. --] <small>]</small> 21:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
	:It does finally explain what ] is, though. --] <small>]</small> 22:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
	::If you follow some of the troll's edits, you'll see it means United States Executive Branch Agent Controlled Articles. See as an example. And I thought I worked for ]. And now, the official Misplaced Pages/CIA working . ] 23:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::Hahaha oh wow. Does conspiracy guy actually think that or is he just trying to be funny? --] <small>]</small> 23:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
	::::I don't have all the diffs at my fingertips, because the troll keeps creating new usernames, but yes, he's dead serious. See as an example. ] 23:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::::"Individualist Spiritualist Anarchist Barbie"? This just keeps getting better and better. You'd think he'd be bored by now, but I guess not. --] <small>]</small> 00:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
	::::::Thtat's the second time the page has been created. It is sitting somewhere on Wiki or on another wiki and copied and pasted here.--] 04:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

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	== Portfolio for ArbCom ==
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	On ], I added a column "Examples" with links that exhibit a candidate's arbitration skills. My motivation is that as a voter, I don't want to just rely on a candidate's words, but also see {{genderneutral\|eir}} actions. Moreover, I believe a portfolio of "model cases" to remember in difficult situations can be useful for each candidate, as well.
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	So far I have entered examples for the candidates who registered first. As I'm not sure if and when I will get to yours, you may want to enter an example or two yourself. — ] ] 23:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC) {{User:SebastianHelm/unwatched}}

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	== Trolls need to eat too ==
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	:-)

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	I probably would have less patience if I'd had all of the experiences you've had here, but I will always start by assuming good faith. At least I should get points for not falling for any of it. —] <sup>]</sup> 20:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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	:Oh, I know you knew what you were dealing with...just providing the best summary one can.--] 20:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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	OCTA-Trails partners with U.S. Department of Interior agencies like the ]. In supporting ] programs, OCTA Chapters sponsor and support projects that preserve and protect wilderness ]s along the same corridors used by pioneering ] wagon trains] 08:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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	:I see, I wasn't aware of that, so sorry for the reverts before.--] 08:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

			Glad I have other things to worry about than this website as some folks are hell bent on making it a completely unfun place to be. Nice job ]...you succeeded in getting the articles redirected yet I see the page they redirect to have no further information...only empty headers. The purpose of a stub is so myself or anyone can come along and work to expand it...bandwidth is cheap so deletion is just plain stupid. This is why we have stub tags.--] (]) 11:16, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
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	Hi Mongo. I notice that the known troll in this discussion that you removed the link to Mr. Pierce's old resume from reverted your edit . I reverted back, but as typical with these things, this might go on and on. --] 17:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Once the Afd is concluded, maybe we can ask oversight to have the edit striken, since we can then protect the Afd, which we can't do while it is still being discussed.--] 17:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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	Hi Mongo, a while back I wrote you regarding the release of the security camera videos showing Flight 77. You wrote that to source Flight77.info, we had to cite reliable reports. For the new Doubltree Hotel video release, I've cited the AP, CNN and wrote about this part of the story here:
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	Could we update the article regarding the Doubletree release?
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	That is unfortunate. I feel strongly that too much time on Misplaced Pages is wasted on the impression of civility and the enforcement of status quo rather than cleaning up the negative inertia generated by a few malcontents and I think you would have been a good influence. (sigh) Just know that ''some'' reasonable people don't think you're a banhappy mouth-frothing zealot. --<font face="Verdana">]]]<small><sup>]\|]</sup></small></font> 20:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC), <small>who still can't believe idjits bring up tired old wikitruth lies in an arbcom election</small>.

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	If it's any consolation to you, the hammering that Faafafooey will take when he goes RfA will make your hammering look like a lovefest. :) - ] 20:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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	:This is a pity. I feel strongly that had those who oppose investigated more deeply, they would have found that in those controversial cases, you were pitted against Trolls and POV Warriors who would have done considerable damage had you not held fast. ]<sup>]</sup> 20:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
	::My sentiments exactly! ] ] 21:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
	::And mine, as well. --] ] 00:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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	:::Adding another "amen" to that. I don't think I've ever seen such an appalling campaign of harassment mounted against another editor. Keep up the good work. ] ] 21:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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	I believe that the harassment I deal with all the time would have possibly been a disruptive adition to arbcom proceedings. Had I been above 70%, I would have continued my quest, but I definitely feel that I might be more effective in helping myself and others defeat harassment if I am not an arbitrator. Kind of goes along with my 20 something years of law enforcement/investigations/security work...I do better at apprehending perhaps, than I do at judging. Your kind words here are deeply appreciated...thanks!--] 21:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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	:Hi MONGO, I don't know you very well, but you were the first to help me with wikistuff and I've seen and appreciated your work on our common interests and your advice to me. As those above say, keep up the good work. Cheers --] 21:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Thanks. I intend to return to the Yellowstone and related articles in the near future. If you need anything, don't hesitate to ask.--] 21:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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	A pity, sorry to see you go out. Probably less stressful out of it! ] 23:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Allow me to add my consolations as well. I've been exposed to just a small fraction of your problems through this Cplot mess, and it's driving me insane when I'm not even the one being attacked. That you even stay around here and aren't banned speaks wonders about your dedication and relatively cool head. Given the number of attacks you end up on the bad end of, I think your civility is commendable. --] <small>]</small> 23:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
	See my talk page. More generally, I agree with all the above sentiments. ] 00:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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	That really is a shame. I would have thought people would be willing to support one with a good strong streak of common sense rather than, as Elara calls it, an ability to enforce the status quo. The fact that you're here, despite all you've been through, should be enough to show your dedication to the project. This all comes from someone who is relatively unaware of the situation, and completely unacquainted with you, and still manages to feel angry about it. I hope this doesn't discourage you too much - keep up your excellent work in other areas! Cheers, <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">]_''']'''</span> 01:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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	Thanks for updating the F77 article. I'm wondering if a link to the actual video can be posted... Links to Judicial Watch's three Youtube URLs are there. Should I create a separate Youtube account that doesn't reference Flight77.info in any way? I can even take the logo off the video if that would help. The intent is not to take credit, but rather to complete the record.
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	Mongo, slow down a second. You just said you had been hurt by a remark of mine. I offered my hospitality in user space so as to keep it out of article space. You then tell me to keep content disputes in the article space. Are your reading my comments?--] 20:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Yes, but let's discuss the issues of the content for now...I was only reminding you to argue about the message and not the messenger...thanks.--] 20:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Well, let me know when you want to talk about those insults.--] 20:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::Don't worry, I will.--] 20:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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	I'm already immersed in a ] surround my closing of a ]. See, this is all your fault for nominating me. :-P —] <sup>]</sup> 20:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
	:I would just step back now and if gets undeleted, don't worry about it. There may be a number of folks that will make accusatory statements regarding your deletion, so just try and restrain from responding.--] 21:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Probably I will. That's my plan at least. I have no stake in the articles, so my only reason to respond is to defend my actions, not the articles. —] <sup>]</sup> 21:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

	Wow. Judging from the DRV comments I seemed to have managed to stop a speeding trainwreck without suffering any damage. It was probably helped by the fact that while I was doing the closing I was wondering if this was going to be a quick end to my adminship—a little paranoia helps keep the mind sharp sometimes. This is even more fun than my RfA was, so I take it all back. Thanks for the nomination...this admin stuff could turn out to be a blast! —] <sup>]</sup> 10:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Nah...you have to really mess up to be deadminned around here...like protecting pages you aren't involved in an editing conflict on, or blocking someone who is a disruption or haraassing you, or blocking someone and then having action taken on you for that six months later. Closing out a big Afd like you did so early in your adminship and having the bulk of the community support your action at DRV is a good omen.--] 10:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	== WikiProject Nebraska ==

	Someone (not me!) started ]. I thought you may be interested in participating. – ] <sup>(] \| ])</sup> 20:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
	:I see...I probably will...thanks!--] 21:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


	==Hi==
	Hi MONGO. Hope you are fine. Here, just wanted to give you a link. No, it's not to provoke, its just FYI: . No need to answer back, peace. --] 03:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
	:I guess there's a reason they are actors and not engineers. --] 04:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
	'''::I think I need to send my fellow Montanan (David Lynch) an email and remind him that there were hundreds of plane parts all over the Pentagon lawn, virtually all the DNA from that crash scene was recovered and cross referenced to be the people on the plane. I don't think that Bernard Brown, the father of Bernard Curtis Brown II, who was on Flight 77 when it hit the Pentagon would be very happy to hear someone spread lies about what happened to his deceased son. Bernard Brown Sr, was a Chief Petty Officer and worked at the Pentagon, but he wasn't at work when his son died as he was a Golf outing with coworkers. Some time before his son was to leave on his trip to go to California on an ecological field trip, Bernard Brown had to comfort his son who was very scared of flying...according to an NBC interview, Brown stated: "To be honest," Brown told NBC, "we talked about death. And I just told him, 'Don't be afraid. … Just listen to what the people tell you, and the instructions. You'll be all right; you'll be fine.' He said, 'Daddy, I’m scared,' and I said, 'Hey, don't be scared; don't be afraid to die. Because we are all going to die someday.".''' --] 05:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Okay, i understand, ill give you no more messages. One thing made me curious. "virtually all the DNA from that crash scene was recovered and cross referenced to be the people on the plane". I was under the impression that was not done. Do you care to give me references for that? Thanks. I wont bother you again with messages like that. --] 13:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

	*Here's one...there are many others...I'll look for more later.''"At the Pentagon, military medical examiners linked remains to 179 victims, including passengers aboard American Airlines Flight 77 and people working in the facility."''
	**"In the Pentagon and Pennsylvania cases, nine genetic profiles that matched no known victims were presumed to be hijacker remains, Smith says.". Interesting, this contradicts other things i have heard before. I would appreciate more info in this regard. Thanks for the link --] 12:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	***I'll have to look through my Forensic Medicine magazines and other places for more info. The information regarding this issue is also available via the U.S. Government...I believe all the DNA remains were analyized at Dover Air Force Base in Dover, Delaware.--] 17:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Hmm... i see that you are leaving. I know the feeling, i did that. It only lasted for... was it two weeks? Anyhow, i know the feeling of having enough, and even though we are at the opposite sides regarding most issues, i sympathies with you on a human scale. Peace and blessings.--] 18:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Keltik31 RfC ==

	Hello! You might want to have a gander and . <font color="silver">-</font><font color="silver">-</font> '''] <sup>]</sup><sup><font color="silver">\|</font></sup><sup>]</sup>''' <font color="silver">-</font><font color="silver">-</font> 19:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Goodlief is sitting out a 48 hour block--] 10:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	== For what it's worth ==

	MONGO, for what it's worth, I do think it would be ''prudent'' if you let other admins defend you from the ED harassment campaign. I don't deny that it exists or that you deserve to be defended, but since you're right in the middle of it, it's probably best to let other people make the calls. ] 17:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	:They move too quick...sometimes creating multiple accounts before I could even get it to AN/I...I have asked for others to help me in the past and it is sometimes hours or never before I get a response, and I can either deal with them myself, or walk away from Misplaced Pages, which is their goal anyway. The latter allows them to knock me off the website.--] 17:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	::As much as you might want them in gaol, I'll assume that's just a typo. :) ] 17:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::Yah, I was coming back to fix my typos and edit conflcited with your edit...sorry about the misspellings.--] 17:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
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	== Trolling wins ==
	Had enough...goodbye to this place.--] 17:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	:It's sad to see a longtime contributor leave, and especially for such a reason as this; I hope you'll reconsider and be back soon. ] 17:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	:: First the Iraqi Surrendermonkey Group, now MONGO? This is a bad omen. Hope you reconsider. ] 17:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Wow. Completely understandable and highly regrettable. This is indeed a black day for Misplaced Pages. —] <sup>]</sup> 17:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::What about a short wikibreak? -- '']'' ] <small>]</small> 17:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Wow. This sucks. I'm really sad to see you go. I hope you reconsider, but if not thank you for all the wonderful things you have done for Misplaced Pages, all the great article and all the hard work. It's appreciated ''very much''. ] 17:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	This is bad. MONGO, please reconsider and take a short Wikibreak. Your contributions to this project are still needed. ] <small>]/]</small> 18:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	I agree with the above. Your contributions to the project have been hugely valuable, and I for one appreciate them far more than you will ever know. Please consider taking a break and returning; it's hard dealing with trolls and harassment all the time, especially in a volunteer project where the benefits can seem so intangible, and compliments and thank-yous are rare commodities indeed. Take care, ] ] 18:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Leaving only hands the trolls their victory. Don't give them the satisfaction, just take a short break then come back and participate a different level. Remember, he who remains the most detached while making his case often wins, so don't let yourself become caught up. But if you do decide to not come back, I'm very sorry to see you go and apologize for not providing more support; you've been a genuine asset to the project. ] 18:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	I'm sorry to see you go, MONGO, and hope you reconsider. ] 18:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	No no no, MONGO. Take a break, yes. Then come back. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I imagine that if you created ] (maybe worded more neutrally) and posted IDs there of new ED and Truther trolls, you could get watchlisted 24/7 coverage easily. ] 18:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	I'm sorry to see this come about... please, as the above users have said, take some time off, smell the flowers (or the Christmas cookies) and come back fresh. ] <small>]</small> 19:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Good luck in your future endeavors, and I respect your decision to quit. I've thought about doing the same thing on several occasions. --] 19:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Very sorry to see this. I hope that you return after taking a reasonable sanity break. ] 19:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Boo. :( ] 19:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Trolling DOES NOT win. MONGO, all of us get stressed from time to time. Sometimes, it helps to take a step back and walk away for a few weeks. I'll expect you back in a few short weeks. If you don't show up, I'll have to figure out some way to troll you :) Please, don't stay away forever. You're too valuable! --] 20:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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	*Yeah. What Guinnog said! :) --] 20:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	:: (mutters angrily) Coming off a block for incivility, there's no possible way I can say what I feel onwiki, so I'll email you , MONGO. But you're needed here. --<font face="Verdana">]]]<small><sup>]\|]</sup></small></font> 20:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::Hey maybe you can CC me...I need your blunt perspective on this. I've been missing your comments during the block. :-) —] <sup>]</sup> 20:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Well this sucks... How about you just make a new account, start fresh, and not tell us who it is? (Or is that what you're doing already and this is how you're covering it?) --] <small>]</small> 20:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	*Adding additional comments; MONGO, you're a particular type of admin that is rare around here. We need all types of admins, but many of the other types have plenty of people filling those roles. A role I see you filling is one where you know what the policies are, you know what the guidelines are, and you're quite willing to walk right into the ground zero for the vandals/trolls and say "No, this is wrong." and boldly revert it. You tread where others fear to go. We ''need'' you in that role. There's too few people in that role. Yes, this means you're going to be the subject of some pretty hateful stuff from some editors here who need to learn better behaviors. Yes, this means you've got to have skin as thick as an elephant, and a memory for hate attacks against you of a chipmunk. You've been ''really'' good at this to date. I was shocked to see you delete your userpage (that's how I found out about this...seeing a redlink for you). But, given how much crap has been flung at you it's hardly surprising you would eventually find it getting to you. That's NO EXCUSE FOR LEAVING! :) Take a break, etc. but don't leave. --] 20:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	**'''Endorse this statement.''' My view exactly. I see nobody here capable of filling your shoes and certainly nobody with the ] to do it and I fear for the future of the project with that role unfilled. Simply put, we need you. —] <sup>]</sup> 21:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Please take a short break. I can thoroughly understand your wanting to leave, due to the persistant hammering you have taken, but don't let them win. ]\|] 21:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	MONGO, you have huge respect and support within the community; both as a first class editor, and as brave (and much needed) POVwarrior/troll fighter. I couldn't imagine being able to deal with the crap you've put up with over the last few months, but its a strong testament to your character and ideals that you have. A fact of life is that a % of the population are pricks, and its a shame you've had to deal with so many. Anyway, though you might enjoy , and hope to see you around again. + ] 22:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Agree with all of the above, take a breath if you must but please come back when you can...this pretty much sucks. I wish I had followed the Arbcom thing closer before this...] 22:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Mongo, I am someone who has clashed with you in the past... frequently. I'd like to see you work you magic here again. What I hope is that you come back with renewed ''constructive'' criticism, rather than your usual destructive variety. However I do hope you come back. ... al ] bin ] ''<small>(])</small>'' 22:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	*Wow. That's a courageous endorsement by Seabhcan of your value here MONGO. —] <sup>]</sup> 22:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
	*We view you as the embodiment of integrity here. Not only are you an effective admin, but you're a great guy too. Hope you reconsider, MONGO. -- ] 23:39, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	Mongo, your contributions to the articles on national parks and other nature-based articles were superb and of tremendous value to Misplaced Pages. I do feel that your strongly held political beliefs affected your impartiality and your decisions when it came to your administrative duties and your editing of certain highly charged topics, but that's a problem not unique to you. I encourage you to take a break, do some fly fishing, and come back and concentrate on those great national park articles which were your forté. If you decide not to return, thanks for all your hard work, and contributions. - ] 00:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

	Completely understandable, but we all really hope you reconsider. Your work here is valued and appreciated by many, and your integrity and forthrightness are admired. Take your time, but please do consider returning. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">]</span> 01:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
	*'''Comment Approved''' - Take a break, but definitely come back. ] <sub><small>( <font color="Red">]</font> <font color="Green">]</font> <font color="Blue">]</font> )</small></sub> 01:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Take a look at ] if you ever feel like you need a reason to come back. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">]</span> 01:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

	Yes, please return soon whenever you are ready. I hope a majority of ArbCom does not take the road of the extreme sanction, it would be a wound to the encyclopedia. :) Cheers, ] 03:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Definitely please come back. The "start over with a new account" thing could be a good idea if, after a short break, you still don't want your past catching up to you. We're pulling for you. ]]] 07:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

	I agree completely with these sentiments, MONGO, and urge you to reconsider your departure. We disagree with respect to my proposal, but I greatly value your contributions to the encyclopedia. Your countless hours here have not been spent in vain: you've done us a lot of good for which I am appreciative. This is the point I was trying to make here: Hopefully a few days away from the grind will give you some needed refreshment, but it would be a shame to make that permanent. Regretfully, ]·] 08:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
	:MONGO is also particularly well suited to be an admin. I feel sorry for the admin who will have to pick up his role in fighting trolls from ED and working to keep unsourced and ill-conceived conspiracies off the pages of Misplaced Pages. Some admin will have to take these arrows because it is in the best interest of the project. I only hope they do it with the same fortitude as MONGO. There is no winner with his desysopping. But Misplaced Pages is the clear loser. ] 08:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
	::I completely agree with Tbeatty. To say that to de-sysop him isn't a slap in the face and that everything will be ok is laughable. The project needs admins with the same kind of determination as MONGO. --] 14:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I'm agreeing totally with above, and I hope that you come back. ''']''' <sup>(] ] ])</sup> 04:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

	Sad to see you go, MONGO, but such is the way of Misplaced Pages. I do hope, however, that this is only temporary. --] <small>(])</small> 17:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I agree. It would be a big loss to have MONGO no longer. --] ] 17:29, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

	Hell of a way to end the day, seeing this. I'd kick a dog if we still had one. Crap! I do hope you will consider coming back. -- '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' 04:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

	===Trolling===
	I also feel like leaving because of trolling. Community is practicaly falling apart. Though I also want to discuss the issue with you on IRC. Catch me there. --<small>] ]</small> 19:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

	==Don't know if you remember..==
	I don't know if you remember our association over one of the National Parks articles a while back, MONGO, but I'm very sorry to see you leave. You're a great admin and contributor, I hope you feel able to return to Misplaced Pages soon. ] 00:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

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	MONGO, I'm really sad to see you go. You're one of the editors I really respect on the project, and I could have really used your help on national parks and climbing sites. I hope you'll come back, if not for yourself, then for my selfish needs. The project will be the better for it. ] ] ] 08:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

			I noticed that you last edited over a year ago. Did you quit? Or what? I was going to invite you to edit the ]. ] (]) 01:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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–dlthewave ☎ 17:02, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Snowdrift Lake (Wyoming) for deletion

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–dlthewave ☎ 18:29, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Rimrock Lake (Wyoming) for deletion

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–dlthewave ☎ 18:31, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Mica Lake for deletion

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–dlthewave ☎ 18:33, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Kit Lake for deletion

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–dlthewave ☎ 18:36, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Grizzly Bear Lake for deletion

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–dlthewave ☎ 18:41, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Glad I have other things to worry about than this website as some folks are hell bent on making it a completely unfun place to be. Nice job dlthewave...you succeeded in getting the articles redirected yet I see the page they redirect to have no further information...only empty headers. The purpose of a stub is so myself or anyone can come along and work to expand it...bandwidth is cheap so deletion is just plain stupid. This is why we have stub tags.--MONGO (talk) 11:16, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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Shoshone National Forest under Featured Article Review

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Did you quit?

I noticed that you last edited over a year ago. Did you quit? Or what? I was going to invite you to edit the Mann Gulch fire. Yankeepapa13 (talk) 01:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)