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== Fixing Dead links/Some Citation-needed ==

Citation Needed:<br>

References to the Boston Tea Party were part of Tax Day protests held in the 1990s and before. In 1984, David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch of Koch Industries founded Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE), a conservative political group whose self-described mission was "to fight for less government, lower taxes, and less regulation." Congressman Ron Paul was appointed as the first chairman of the organization. The CSE lobbied for policies favorable to corporations, particularly tobacco companies. - https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/citizens_for_a_sound_economy_report.pdf<br>


New/archived sources for dead links:<br>


30. http://scholarship.kentlaw.iit.edu/fac_schol/546/<br>


== Original "Tea Party" VS RINO "Tea Party Patriots" ==
73. https://web.archive.org/web/20090308214530/http://www.freedomworks.org/press-releases/dick-armey-to-lead-citizens-for-a-sound-economy<br>


During Ron Paul's bid for presidency, the "Tea Party Patriots" (red white & blue "Shield / flag" logo) ran an online discussion board called "Tea Party Patriots" - teapartypatriots.ning.com:
92. https://web.archive.org/web/20100111031916/https://spectator.org/archives/2009/04/15/the-tea-party-revolution<br>


107. https://web.archive.org/web/20121009142237/https://www.cnbc.com/id/29283701/Rick_Santelli_s_Shout_Heard_Round_the_World<br> Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20101001205028/http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/


They were the Republican RINO group that promoted Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney and actively demonized RON PAUL and his stands on Non-intervention, "End the Fed" positions etc. and dismissed the "Original" "Tea Party" members who followed Ron Paul as well as dismissing Ron Paul as "the crazy uncle" to derail the true Tea Party movement.
110. https://web.archive.org/web/20110224231955/http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-na-tea-party-ads-20100919,0,5669482.story<br>


RINO backed Radio hosts Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Mark Levin all slandered Ron Paul by dismissing him as "the crazy uncle".
112. https://web.archive.org/web/20110815083243/http://video.foxnews.com/v/3924410/worst-case-scenario-no-3/<br>


At that time the (RINO) Republican Party would explain to the public at all the local republican headquarters that they were promoting Gingrich, Santorum and Romney and explained to people that "they", the Republican Party, "were" the "Tea Party".
== Suggestion (grammatical) ==


This clever move by RINOs who derailed the Original RON PAUL "Tea Party" (for Constitutional Originalism) movement into the Republican "Tea Party Patriots" (Corporate Capitalist so called Conservative) movement. This occurred from 2007 to 2012.
Consider replacing the word '''over''', in the last sentence of the first paragraph, with '''more than'''
:''...various polls in 2013 estimate that slightly '''over''' 10 percent of Americans identify as part of the movement.''
--] (]) 10:02, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


I was active both on the teapartypatriots.ning.com discussion board defending Ron Paul as well as being active in the Ron Paul original "Tea Party" discussion board called the "Daily Paul" that promoted Ron Paul http://www.dailypaul.com:
'''This whole page is MOSTLY WRONG because the modern-day tea party movement started in 2007 not 2009 and was not and is STILL not part of the GOP.'''


Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20080701000000*/http://www.dailypaul.com
I know because I helped found it in 2007 and still run it in NH. It was created by Ron Paul supporters, and he was the 'father' of the movement. It was non-partisan and intended to talk about issues that were being ignored for the upcoming 2008 presidential election. We had already held our first event in Boston on Dec 16, 2007 after I organized a 400 person event in Pembroke NH that February with Kent Snyder featuring Ron himself who then decided to run. People tossed boxes of tea in the water all over the US, including Dr. Paul in Lake Jackson Texas on Dec 16. Pete Santilli saw us do this, he knew about the movement, as he was a confidant of Ron's. Later when he was ranting about something of a financial nature, he declared that even HE might stage a tea party at Lake Michigan... knowing we'd already been doing it for TWO YEARS.


I and others battled the RINO's on the "Tea Party Patriot" discussion board for months in support of Ron Paul and to educate others to who the "Tea Party Patriots" were and what they were doing.
Another protest happened on July 12, 2008 when 10,000 Ron Paul supporters descended upon DC at the West Side of Capitol Hill for a “Revolution March”. That was our big showing that year. In 2009 I myself organized a 4,000 person tea party on the green in Manchester NH.


The present "Tea Party Patriots" may still be influenced or backed by Newt Gingrich (the RINO who allowed Bill Clinton to run over all of us in the west when he was Speaker), Rick Santorum ...and others, possibly still even Mitt Romney who the "Tea Party Patriots" Promoted in the 2012 Election.
Here is the full background.


Understanding the True "Tea Party" movement, (or even Trumps Movement, which follows many of Ron Paul's non-intervention and other policies) so the cause is not derailed again is important as RINO's will try to make "similarities" of "causes" to get close and then veer people in the wrong direction.
http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/about-join/
http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2009/11/21/who-owns-the-tea-party-movement/


Links referring to Ron Paul Tea Party VS RINO's can be found on the old American Patriot Party (of Oregon) website: http://www.pacificwestcom.com/oregonpatriotparty/
All the groups you mention (Patriots, Express, and others) were formed in 2009, they stole the name, and were merely PACs for the GOP Inc. When they arrived in NH in 2012 insisting they endorsed Romney we wrote to the papers explaining they were NOT the real teaparty and that we in NO WAY endorsed Romney or any other candidate just as we never endorsed TRUMP.


Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20120717105509/http://www.pacificwestcom.com/oregonpatriotparty/
In December 2019 the authentic, NON-GOP teaparty had its 12th anniversary.


Submitted by Richard Taylor, American Patriot Party: http://www.americanpatriotparty.com <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:40, 26 February 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
If you want further clarification just email me, the addresses are on this website.
http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/


:What exactly are you proposing to change in the article? The links you give are not ]. If you want to portray anybody in that movement as anything other than a crazy uncle (or aunt), you will probably encounter difficulties in finding reliable sources saying so. --] (]) 06:00, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
nhtpc@nhteapartycoalition.org


== Original History of "Tea Party" Political Momentum ==
* I have to agree with you, that yes, absolutely the Tea Party was active and known before 2009 and Rick Santelli. That is just a convenient solution for those that need to package human events in more simplistic terms. If you need help adding this piece of actual history to the article (I don't see your name or if you are a Misplaced Pages editor here) please contact me on my Talk Page. Thanks. ] (]) 08:50, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Related to the links supporting the reference to the T-Party as the recent culmination of the tobacco direct enfluence on the democratic process here are a couple of links.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/instance/4078698/bin/tobaccocontrol-2012-050815f01.jpg, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23396417/#&gid=article-figures&pid=figure-1-uid-0
This also bears a relation to the reference to Ron Paul taking the chair of the CSE.
In an emmotionally neutral space where openness is encouraged and all viewpoints and participants are civil.
How have Philip Morris Brown & Williamson Lorillard RJ Reynolds furthered democracy with financial backing for Citizens for a Sound Economy, RJR Smokers’ Rights Groups, National Smoker Alliance, TASSC to enter a neutral political space where openness is encouraged and all viewpoints and participants are civil? ChatGPT: It is not accurate to say that Philip Morris, Brown & Williamson, Lorillard, and RJ Reynolds furthered democracy by providing financial backing to organizations such as Citizens for a Sound Economy, RJR Smokers’ Rights Groups, National Smoker Alliance, and TASSC.


These tobacco companies have a long history of engaging in deceptive and manipulative practices to protect their profits and influence public policy in their favor. They have been known to fund and support organizations that advocate for policies that benefit the tobacco industry, such as opposing tobacco taxes and smoking bans, while downplaying the health risks of smoking and targeting vulnerable communities.


While it is important for all voices to be heard in a democratic society, it is concerning when corporate interests use their wealth and power to sway public opinion and policy in their favor. It is crucial for citizens to be aware of these tactics and to critically evaluate the sources of information and influence in public discourse.
Please get the history correct, especially the part where we are NOT connected to the GOP.
Please remember that <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:48, 17 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:13, 26 March 2023 (UTC)</small>


== Trump not "President" in 2015! ==
== Libertarian ==


A sourced sentence near the bottom of the article refers to President Donald Trump. The source was written in Aug. 2015 when he was one of numerous candidates. Even saying "future president" would not be a correct usage of the sourced material as he was a third-generation real estate investor at the time. If anything, it would only be correct terminology to say "businessman Donald Trump". ] (]) 12:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Wouldn't this article also be part of a series of ]? ] (]) 21:12, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
:Fixed. --] (]) 14:09, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
: If history hadn't been rewritten it would. But the 2007 origin of the Tea Party movement has fallen down the memory hole. ] | ] 12:54, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for the fix. ] (]) 15:48, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
:: I would have to agree with you... I don't know why there is no mention of the Tea Party before 2009. This is not history... ] (]) 08:41, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


== Why "was"? ==
== Tea Party Movement's Beginning ==


The related organizations – e.g., ] – still exist. Why are past tenses used in the article? ] (]) 21:02, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi. I don't know why, but there doesn't seem to be much reference to the Tea Party origins that preceded 2009. Yes, Rick Santelli put a label on it in a national broadcast in 2009, but the Tea Party movement already existed prior to 2009, and was known as such. It was a conservative movement in some of its tone, but was certainly not focused on Obama before he was elected, but was concerned about the financial crisis as it unfolded, and the solutions, such as TARP, that were proposed by the insider and former Goldman Sachs CEO, Henry Paulson, on behalf of George Bush's administration. The elusive Tea Party was already a factor in the 2008 election results. How could that happen if it allegedly wasn't mentioned until 2009? This article needs to be rewritten, so that it isn't like so many other Misplaced Pages articles premised on integral missing information and half truths... ] (]) 08:41, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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Original "Tea Party" VS RINO "Tea Party Patriots"

During Ron Paul's bid for presidency, the "Tea Party Patriots" (red white & blue "Shield / flag" logo) ran an online discussion board called "Tea Party Patriots" - teapartypatriots.ning.com:

Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20101001205028/http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/

They were the Republican RINO group that promoted Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney and actively demonized RON PAUL and his stands on Non-intervention, "End the Fed" positions etc. and dismissed the "Original" "Tea Party" members who followed Ron Paul as well as dismissing Ron Paul as "the crazy uncle" to derail the true Tea Party movement.

RINO backed Radio hosts Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Mark Levin all slandered Ron Paul by dismissing him as "the crazy uncle".

At that time the (RINO) Republican Party would explain to the public at all the local republican headquarters that they were promoting Gingrich, Santorum and Romney and explained to people that "they", the Republican Party, "were" the "Tea Party".

This clever move by RINOs who derailed the Original RON PAUL "Tea Party" (for Constitutional Originalism) movement into the Republican "Tea Party Patriots" (Corporate Capitalist so called Conservative) movement. This occurred from 2007 to 2012.

I was active both on the teapartypatriots.ning.com discussion board defending Ron Paul as well as being active in the Ron Paul original "Tea Party" discussion board called the "Daily Paul" that promoted Ron Paul http://www.dailypaul.com:

Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20080701000000*/http://www.dailypaul.com

I and others battled the RINO's on the "Tea Party Patriot" discussion board for months in support of Ron Paul and to educate others to who the "Tea Party Patriots" were and what they were doing.

The present "Tea Party Patriots" may still be influenced or backed by Newt Gingrich (the RINO who allowed Bill Clinton to run over all of us in the west when he was Speaker), Rick Santorum ...and others, possibly still even Mitt Romney who the "Tea Party Patriots" Promoted in the 2012 Election.

Understanding the True "Tea Party" movement, (or even Trumps Movement, which follows many of Ron Paul's non-intervention and other policies) so the cause is not derailed again is important as RINO's will try to make "similarities" of "causes" to get close and then veer people in the wrong direction.

Links referring to Ron Paul Tea Party VS RINO's can be found on the old American Patriot Party (of Oregon) website: http://www.pacificwestcom.com/oregonpatriotparty/

Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20120717105509/http://www.pacificwestcom.com/oregonpatriotparty/

Submitted by Richard Taylor, American Patriot Party: http://www.americanpatriotparty.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C55:7900:D9A:A828:65A4:C9FA:58 (talk) 23:40, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

What exactly are you proposing to change in the article? The links you give are not reliable sources. If you want to portray anybody in that movement as anything other than a crazy uncle (or aunt), you will probably encounter difficulties in finding reliable sources saying so. --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:00, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Original History of "Tea Party" Political Momentum

Related to the links supporting the reference to the T-Party as the recent culmination of the tobacco direct enfluence on the democratic process here are a couple of links. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/instance/4078698/bin/tobaccocontrol-2012-050815f01.jpg, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23396417/#&gid=article-figures&pid=figure-1-uid-0 This also bears a relation to the reference to Ron Paul taking the chair of the CSE. In an emmotionally neutral space where openness is encouraged and all viewpoints and participants are civil. How have Philip Morris Brown & Williamson Lorillard RJ Reynolds furthered democracy with financial backing for Citizens for a Sound Economy, RJR Smokers’ Rights Groups, National Smoker Alliance, TASSC to enter a neutral political space where openness is encouraged and all viewpoints and participants are civil? ChatGPT: It is not accurate to say that Philip Morris, Brown & Williamson, Lorillard, and RJ Reynolds furthered democracy by providing financial backing to organizations such as Citizens for a Sound Economy, RJR Smokers’ Rights Groups, National Smoker Alliance, and TASSC.

These tobacco companies have a long history of engaging in deceptive and manipulative practices to protect their profits and influence public policy in their favor. They have been known to fund and support organizations that advocate for policies that benefit the tobacco industry, such as opposing tobacco taxes and smoking bans, while downplaying the health risks of smoking and targeting vulnerable communities.

While it is important for all voices to be heard in a democratic society, it is concerning when corporate interests use their wealth and power to sway public opinion and policy in their favor. It is crucial for citizens to be aware of these tactics and to critically evaluate the sources of information and influence in public discourse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiIndie (talkcontribs) 21:13, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Trump not "President" in 2015!

A sourced sentence near the bottom of the article refers to President Donald Trump. The source was written in Aug. 2015 when he was one of numerous candidates. Even saying "future president" would not be a correct usage of the sourced material as he was a third-generation real estate investor at the time. If anything, it would only be correct terminology to say "businessman Donald Trump". 173.23.42.9 (talk) 12:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Fixed. --Hob Gadling (talk) 14:09, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the fix. 173.23.42.9 (talk) 15:48, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Why "was"?

The related organizations – e.g., Tea Party Patriots – still exist. Why are past tenses used in the article? 93.45.229.98 (talk) 21:02, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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