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== non-sexual == | |||
To state that cuddle parties are non-sexual is, in my opinion, POV. I'm slightly modifying the first few sentences in an attempt to make them NPOV without sacrificing information. --] 05:03, 3 January 2006 (UTC) | To state that cuddle parties are non-sexual is, in my opinion, POV. I'm slightly modifying the first few sentences in an attempt to make them NPOV without sacrificing information. --] 05:03, 3 January 2006 (UTC) | ||
:Non-sexual is the rule, therefore I put "non-sexual" after "encouraged to"; this allows for the possibilty that participants and others view the interactions as sexual.--] 11:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC) | :Non-sexual is the rule, therefore I put "non-sexual" after "encouraged to"; this allows for the possibilty that participants and others view the interactions as sexual.--] 11:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC) | ||
::You're right; that's best. Thanks. --] 14:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC) | ::You're right; that's best. Thanks. --] 14:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC) | ||
:: Yeah yeah original intents may be non-sexual and the real RULE maybe "no pressure to sexual participation" -- but reality is that sexual reactions are just as likely as any party where attractive people relax and feel safe interacting...now add physical proximity. Of course good manners is to take it out the puppy pile room if things are too urgent to wait. Again the original original intent is non-sexual. ] (]) 23:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
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⚫ | == REiD? == | ||
"REiD Mihalko and Marcia Baczynski founded the organization..." | :"REiD Mihalko and Marcia Baczynski founded the organization..." | ||
Is this just a typo, or is REiD some acronym I'm not familiar with? --] 13:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC) | Is this just a typo, or is REiD some acronym I'm not familiar with? --] 13:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC) | ||
:From what I gained on their website, his real name is Reid Mihalko, but he (or the web designer) likes to type it as "REiD". --] 03:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== "Puppy Pile" and other discussions == | == "Puppy Pile" and other discussions == | ||
⚫ | A ] is a derogatory term. if there is to be a merger, it should be based on the elimination of reference or association between cuddle party and puppy pile. people arent dogs.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 08:06, 2006 March 21 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small><!-- --> | ||
⚫ | :Hi V - thanks for discussing here. I'm not completely familiar with any association between the two terms - I need to do a little research, which will probably take me about 2 days or so to get around to. I will also look into why the Merge template was added, as I'm not familiar with all the history. Welcome to Misplaced Pages. ]\<sup>]</sup> 16:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC) Hi V - I've looked into it and I disagree. If you Google "cuddle party"+"puppy pile", the is cuddleparty.com and they use the term puppy pile in a non-derogatory manner to refer to something that may happen at a cuddle party. ]\<sup>]</sup> 21:58, 22 March 2006 (UTC) | ||
:I find both terms fairly descriptive myself, although "cuddy party" does have mild flavor/connotation of focusing on existing bonds (exclusive membership, renewals). "Puppy pile" seems maybe a bit more open to new friendships (inclusive, formative as well as renewal). | |||
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⚫ | :Hi V - thanks for discussing here. I'm not completely familiar with any association between the two terms - I need to do a little research, which will probably take me about 2 days or so to get around to. I will also look into why the Merge template was added, as I'm not familiar with all the history. Welcome to Misplaced Pages. ]\<sup>]</sup> 16:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC) | ||
:Hmmm...maybe you PC people should rename the event a "Contact Comfort Gathering". The dirty truth is some women associate puppies with penises (because of the old nurse rhyme "boys are made of...snails and puppy dog tails...") and conservative males associate cuddle parties with secretive adolescent bonding among girls and are offended by its most extreme forms: bisexuality and gayness. | |||
:Hi V - I've looked into it and I disagree. If you Google "cuddle party"+"puppy pile", the very first link is cuddleparty.com and they use the term puppy pile in a non-derogatory manner to refer to something that may happen at a cuddel party. ]\<sup>]</sup> 21:58, 22 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Thus "Cuddle Party" is ALSO a derogatory term to some. In part this is because the term Cuddle is more often taken in its romantic aspect when there is no generational difference between participating members. In reality "puppy pile" is considered more authentically descriptive in that it is a both more sexless term and specifies the contact comfort or non-romantic side of cuddle. ] (]) 23:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== Merger == | == Merger == | ||
If no one has any objections, I am going to merge the ] stuff over to here and create a redirect there. It seems that the two words mean the same thing, but that "cuddle party" is the preferred (standard) term. ] 11:31, 13 May 2006 (UTC) | If no one has any objections, I am going to merge the ] stuff over to here and create a redirect there. It seems that the two words mean the same thing, but that "cuddle party" is the preferred (standard) term. ] 11:31, 13 May 2006 (UTC) | ||
: No objections here. Suggest a small note be added to the article pointing out ''what'' a 'puppy pile' is, once ] is merged into this one. See cuddleparty.com definition & ]'s comment that it's a sub-event of a cuddle party. | : No objections here. Suggest a small note be added to the article pointing out ''what'' a 'puppy pile' is, once ] is merged into this one. See cuddleparty.com definition & ]'s comment that it's a sub-event of a cuddle party. | ||
:no mention whatsoever of a puppy pile anywhere in the article now... ] <sup>]</sup> 03:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC) | :no mention whatsoever of a puppy pile anywhere in the article now... ] <sup>]</sup> 03:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
:Yup some one played the PC card and had "puppy pile" removed...even though IMHO "Cuddle party" is almost as offensive and less accurate in inherent description. But then "Puppy Pile" offends a minority with a more vocal activist group. ] (]) 00:04, 28 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
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I don't know how notable this is, but I have heard the term 'cuddling' used on this show a lot and girls like ] in particular seem to enjoy cuddling with male roommates and potential dates as an alternative (though sometimes prelude) to sexual things. At first I thought it was a euphemism or code term but it seems that's what they actually do. I don't at all think the show is the origin of this usage, but it seems like a relevant example in popular culture. I am not sure where it originated but would it be worth mentioning? ] (]) 18:37, 7 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Where to find Cuddle Party events == | |||
The section of the article is not a collection of links, but it is a list of cities. It might is well be titled 'Where to find Evidence of Human Habitation', as that would be as useful. I will delete this section soon, if no one protests. ] (]) 01:30, 19 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
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== COI edit request WP:RS, WP:SOCK, WP:COI, and self promotion of a business == | |||
* '''What I think should be changed''': | |||
This edit should be reverted.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cuddle_party&diff=1056415051&oldid=1030395334</ref> | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cuddle_party&diff=1056415051&oldid=1030395334 | |||
* '''Why it should be changed''': | |||
]: Erez Ben-Ari was using sock puppets to promote himself and his business, please see investigation archived here <ref>{{Cite web|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/BenAriAtMicrosoft/Archive&oldid=1076783176|title=Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/BenAriAtMicrosoft/Archive|date=March 12, 2022|via=Misplaced Pages}}</ref> which concluded in blocking all his accounts. BillShearim, NCSFreedom, and BenAriAtMicrosoft all belong to Erez as recorded here <ref>{{Cite web|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_BenAriAtMicrosoft&oldid=1076686483|title=Category:Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of BenAriAtMicrosoft|date=March 12, 2022|via=Misplaced Pages}}</ref>. | |||
], ]: Erez has added his own businesses ("Spoonz" and "Hugz & Cuddles" to this article (as BillSeharim). This is self-promotion, COI, and the source cited is based on an interview with him. He is citing himself as the source. I believe this is not a reliable source. Erez Ben-Ari's page and his self-authored Hugz & Cuddles page ware recently deleted <ref name="auto">{{Cite web|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Erez_Ben%E2%80%93Ari&oldid=1078119311|title=Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Erez Ben–Ari|date=March 19, 2022|via=Misplaced Pages}}</ref> due to some of the same violations as well lack of notability. | |||
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2004
I have permission to post the cuddle party entry. Please contact reid@cuddleparty.com or marcia@cuddleparty.com for verification. They know me by nick Jade (short for Jadxia) Patten. User:138.88.63.122 12:58, 1 November 2004
non-sexual
To state that cuddle parties are non-sexual is, in my opinion, POV. I'm slightly modifying the first few sentences in an attempt to make them NPOV without sacrificing information. --Allen 05:03, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Non-sexual is the rule, therefore I put "non-sexual" after "encouraged to"; this allows for the possibilty that participants and others view the interactions as sexual.--Patrick 11:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- You're right; that's best. Thanks. --Allen 14:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah yeah original intents may be non-sexual and the real RULE maybe "no pressure to sexual participation" -- but reality is that sexual reactions are just as likely as any party where attractive people relax and feel safe interacting...now add physical proximity. Of course good manners is to take it out the puppy pile room if things are too urgent to wait. Again the original original intent is non-sexual. 69.23.121.234 (talk) 23:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
REiD?
- "REiD Mihalko and Marcia Baczynski founded the organization..."
Is this just a typo, or is REiD some acronym I'm not familiar with? --x-Flare-x 13:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- From what I gained on their website, his real name is Reid Mihalko, but he (or the web designer) likes to type it as "REiD". --Entoaggie09 03:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
"Puppy Pile" and other discussions
A Puppy Pile is a derogatory term. if there is to be a merger, it should be based on the elimination of reference or association between cuddle party and puppy pile. people arent dogs.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by VForVendetta (talk • contribs) 08:06, 2006 March 21 (UTC)
- Hi V - thanks for discussing here. I'm not completely familiar with any association between the two terms - I need to do a little research, which will probably take me about 2 days or so to get around to. I will also look into why the Merge template was added, as I'm not familiar with all the history. Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Johntex\ 16:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC) Hi V - I've looked into it and I disagree. If you Google "cuddle party"+"puppy pile", the very first link is cuddleparty.com and they use the term puppy pile in a non-derogatory manner to refer to something that may happen at a cuddle party. Johntex\ 21:58, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- I find both terms fairly descriptive myself, although "cuddy party" does have mild flavor/connotation of focusing on existing bonds (exclusive membership, renewals). "Puppy pile" seems maybe a bit more open to new friendships (inclusive, formative as well as renewal).
- Hmmm...maybe you PC people should rename the event a "Contact Comfort Gathering". The dirty truth is some women associate puppies with penises (because of the old nurse rhyme "boys are made of...snails and puppy dog tails...") and conservative males associate cuddle parties with secretive adolescent bonding among girls and are offended by its most extreme forms: bisexuality and gayness.
- Thus "Cuddle Party" is ALSO a derogatory term to some. In part this is because the term Cuddle is more often taken in its romantic aspect when there is no generational difference between participating members. In reality "puppy pile" is considered more authentically descriptive in that it is a both more sexless term and specifies the contact comfort or non-romantic side of cuddle. 69.23.121.234 (talk) 23:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Removing Neutrality Tag
No one has made any explanation here of why the Neutrality tag was added. Therefore, I am removing it. Before adding again, please discuss here. Johntex\ 22:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Merger
If no one has any objections, I am going to merge the puppy pile stuff over to here and create a redirect there. It seems that the two words mean the same thing, but that "cuddle party" is the preferred (standard) term. Turly-burly 11:31, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- No objections here. Suggest a small note be added to the article pointing out what a 'puppy pile' is, once puppy pile is merged into this one. See cuddleparty.com definition & User:Johntex's comment that it's a sub-event of a cuddle party.
- no mention whatsoever of a puppy pile anywhere in the article now... Mathmo 03:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yup some one played the PC card and had "puppy pile" removed...even though IMHO "Cuddle party" is almost as offensive and less accurate in inherent description. But then "Puppy Pile" offends a minority with a more vocal activist group. 69.23.121.234 (talk) 00:04, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Jersey Shore
I don't know how notable this is, but I have heard the term 'cuddling' used on this show a lot and girls like Snooki in particular seem to enjoy cuddling with male roommates and potential dates as an alternative (though sometimes prelude) to sexual things. At first I thought it was a euphemism or code term but it seems that's what they actually do. I don't at all think the show is the origin of this usage, but it seems like a relevant example in popular culture. I am not sure where it originated but would it be worth mentioning? Bonechamber (talk) 18:37, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Where to find Cuddle Party events
The section of the article is not a collection of links, but it is a list of cities. It might is well be titled 'Where to find Evidence of Human Habitation', as that would be as useful. I will delete this section soon, if no one protests. 159.83.54.2 (talk) 01:30, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
COI edit request WP:RS, WP:SOCK, WP:COI, and self promotion of a business
- What I think should be changed:
This edit should be reverted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cuddle_party&diff=1056415051&oldid=1030395334
- Why it should be changed:
WP:SOCK: Erez Ben-Ari was using sock puppets to promote himself and his business, please see investigation archived here which concluded in blocking all his accounts. BillShearim, NCSFreedom, and BenAriAtMicrosoft all belong to Erez as recorded here .
WP:COI, WP:RS: Erez has added his own businesses ("Spoonz" and "Hugz & Cuddles" to this article (as BillSeharim). This is self-promotion, COI, and the source cited is based on an interview with him. He is citing himself as the source. I believe this is not a reliable source. Erez Ben-Ari's page and his self-authored Hugz & Cuddles page ware recently deleted due to some of the same violations as well lack of notability.
PressSourceCheck (talk) 04:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
References
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cuddle_party&diff=1056415051&oldid=1030395334
- "Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/BenAriAtMicrosoft/Archive". March 12, 2022 – via Misplaced Pages.
- "Category:Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of BenAriAtMicrosoft". March 12, 2022 – via Misplaced Pages.
- "Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Erez Ben–Ari". March 19, 2022 – via Misplaced Pages.