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			The personal attack intervention noticeboard (PAIN), created on ] ], was intended as a counterpart to ]. A person with complaints over ] could, after giving warnings, report a personal attacker on this page.
	==={{user\|91.127.186.233}}===
	This user has erased another user's page and replaced it with 'lol u suck retard'. As can be seen on the offender's talk page, ], this user has been warned numeruos times before. Would it be a good idea to block them? thanks for your time. :-) ] 18:29, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

			Unfortunately, the noticeboard generated a considerable amount of controversy. While ] is usually a clear cut case, and administrator intervention (i.e. blocking) is usually uncontroversial, determining whether a comment is a personal attack, incivil, or just simply blunt and frank, can be quite ]. That led to a lot of arguments, flame wars, tit-for-tat disputes and ] on this page. Even after several warnings as well as changes to the header designed to instruct users on how to use this page, this noticeboard continued to deteriorate. Due to this deterioration as well as some particularly poor exchanges in December 2006, the entire page was ], with the result that the noticeboard was closed on {{#formatdate:10 January 2007}}.
	==={{user\|199.80.117.24}}===

			The closure of this noticeboard does not mean that personal attacks are tolerated; they should never be. It simply means that complaints over personal attacks are moved to different, and more appropriate venues such as the ], ] or, as a last resort, ].
	Personal attacks and gross incivility on ] . After warning him, he told me that they weren't personal attacks, and proceeded to keep attacking people with phrases like "Are you slow or something?" . I believe he is a reincarnation of {{IPvandal\|74.195.3.11}}, who edits the same articles, has the same tendency towards personal attacks and incivility, has the same exact style, and has been blocked before for incivility. ] <sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub>
	* '''Reviewer comment''' • Looks like an obvious block to me ... if a passerby sysop wants to block them, I'd fully endorse it. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 17:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
	**Thanks. By the way, the first diff in my original report was in error--I pasted the wrong URL. I've since corrected that mistake, by pasting the correct URL in. ] <sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 17:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
	***I noticed, and just looked through the contribs since it was more a pattern you were alluding to and not a single collection of disruptive edits. ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 17:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	===~~{{user\|210.207.18.67}}~~===		===Procedure===
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	Personal attacks-only account, targeting editors critical of Falun Gong. ] 12:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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	: '''Reviewer Comment''' • SPA's like that should be reported to ] where they can be summarily blocked. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 15:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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	==={{user\|68.42.232.134}}===
	This anon. user has continued to escalate Personal Attacks against me to the point of Harassment, and he has been told these are ]. Furthermore, he has taken the issue off-wikipedia to a discussion forum here:, as well as an email to my email address further harassing me, even though he and another user were the ones engaging in an edit war, while I engaged in the discussion. I have at this point requested the forum admin linked previously to remove my name from his site, no response as of yet. I am also considering contacting his ISP regarding the harassment. However, I did want to make sure that this was also noted with the Misplaced Pages administrators. ] 05:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot a Misplaced Pages admin can do about that sort of thing -- my ability to block people ends when they leave the ''en.wikipedia.org'' domain. As far as the emails go, if they're coming from the same addresses, you may as well blacklist the address so that you stop getting their mail. ] 11:38, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Thank you for responding. I knew there was not much that could be done by a WP admin, but I did need to document that the WP admins were aware of the situation. Thank you for your assistance, you've been more help than you know. ] 19:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	==={{User\|Live Forever}}===
	this User has gone far beyond reaches of civility. After weeks & months of silence ], and his repeated reverts of the article , despite m y monologues to a brick wall at the talk; he wrote a '''very''' uncivil comment, accusing me of constantly and blatantly lying about other users' contributions and other highly uncivil comments as seen. He has also called me a ''vandal'' & expressed no will to talk/discuss, him clearly stating that he'll continue reverting. --] 09:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	==={{User\|Chuck0}}===

	This user was warned by me yesterday [http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AChuck0&diff=96216083&oldid=96216056 but has just attacked me again by calling me a "coward".http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AAnarchism_in_the_United_States&diff=96462818&oldid=

	He just attacked me again, calling me a "crackpot" http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AChuck_Munson&diff=96464851&oldid=96464315

	Yet another personal attack calling me "crazy." http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AChuck_Munson&diff=96504904&oldid=96504491

	==={{User\|Pluto.2006}}===

	This user is out on a defamation campaign against me, and has attacked me personally despite several requests and warnings. Please find the diffs below:

	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Concerts_by_Dr._K._J._Yesudas&diff=prev&oldid=82819416<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Albums_by_Dr._K._J._Yesudas&diff=prev&oldid=82819586<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Venu62&diff=prev&oldid=82820573<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Bharatveer&diff=prev&oldid=82822115<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Pluto.2006&diff=prev&oldid=82822350<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Carnatic_music&diff=prev&oldid=82823935<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Srkris&diff=prev&oldid=82837406<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Carnatic_music&diff=prev&oldid=91168041<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Srkris&diff=prev&oldid=94030259<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Srkris&diff=prev&oldid=94467569<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:K._J._Yesudas&diff=prev&oldid=94475722<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Srkris&diff=prev&oldid=94481891<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Venu62&diff=prev&oldid=94482982<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Ncmvocalist&diff=prev&oldid=94483133<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Harikw&diff=prev&oldid=94483249<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:HighInBC&diff=prev&oldid=94483382<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:A4ay&diff=prev&oldid=94483615<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Hrisforu&diff=prev&oldid=94483721<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Bharatveer&diff=prev&oldid=94484075<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Husond&diff=prev&oldid=94484147<br>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=94667664<br>

	Please take appropriate action against this user. As you can see, these attacks are with a wilful intent to attack me personally, so ] is inapplicable. <span class="sigSrkris" style="background:gold;color:#FF0000"><big>ॐ</big> ] (] \| ])</span> 13:31, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

	: '''Reveiwer note''' • ] is always applicable. As to action I leave that to a syops intervention as there definetely is a pattern here. Whether it's WP:NPA I don't think so - I think it's more WP:STALK, but I defer to a sysop's opinion and remedy. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 17:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
	:: Wizard: I trust your judgement; if you think a block is needed, let me no (and/or drop a note at ANI).--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</span></sub> 02:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	**I see from the users contrib history that he or she has not made an edit since the 16th December - 10 days ago. Please feel free to provide new diffs should a new personal attack be made. WP:PAIN is for continuing personal attack situations. For the record though, yes there are some personal attacks in there, and debatably, incivility too. ] 07:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC) (reinstated comments - ] <sup><em>]/]</em></sup> 19:46, 26 December 2006 (UTC))

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	==={{User\|Rkba69}}===
	This user has added nothing but nonsense and personal attacks since joining Misplaced Pages. User has been warned with the appropriate templates to no avail.

	Here a just a few diffs:
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	--] 07:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
	:'''Left a note.''' Hoping that'll calm him down a bit. Will try to keep an eye on this, let me know if I miss anything important. ] 10:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)



	==={{User\|Wobble}}===

	*"There ia a host of information on this if you can be bothered to think outside of your narrow racialist perspective Thulean. Distorting biomedical research to try to support your dodgy racialist ideas is what you seem to do best. Go on accuse me of a personal attack, but read WP:SPADE first and look at your edit history." I asked him to prove his accusations about me distorting research. He failed and could have only given one example, and that was questionable. We discussed it at length ]

	*Than after saying me if I can "be bothered to think outside of your narrow racialist perspective", he says "The sort of out of date racialist thinking that normal people (that's 99% of us) think only nutters believe any more." "you just want to make claims that science supports your racist ideas" "There was a cite to "racial reality", a racist nazi site as far as I can see, with the reliability and accuracy one would expect from a bunch of neonazi thickos (who ever met an intelligent racist? Not me)." While commenting on neo nazis may be acceptable, he correlates it with racists after commenting on my "racist ideas" and after calling me "Ah well my little nordicist friend". Clearly, there are bunch of insults in these two edits: , especially considering things like " Indeed I might go so far as to say that being considered silly by someone with your opinions makes me rather a decent chap". And I never called him silly.

	*His warns: ] 01:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)









	=== {{User\|83.250.137.87}} ===
	Personal attacks against former ] subscribers and ex-employees, including posting personal information.

	'''Examples'''
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	* (different wiki, same vandalism)

	This, among other open proxies and the like, are abused by Sveasoft employee ].

	:Can you clarify what the 3rd link given there is? Cheers! —— ] <sup>(])</sup> 18:03, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
	:'''Reviewer note''' • Although the third link is concerning, it is on another wiki and unfortunately we have no jurisdiction to punish them there. I would also find it in bad taste to punish them here for mistakes on other places, so I would encourage another reviewer or sysop to discount it. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 18:12, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Sorry about that; you can safely ignore that oteher wiki. But here's another example:
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	::Thanks. --] 19:12, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
	He's doing it again. Examples are: .

	Here's the WHOIS data for the IP (83.250.137.87) in question:
	inetnum: 83.250.136.0 - 83.250.143.255
	netname: COMHEM-CUSTOMER
	descr: com hem customer broadband access
	descr: ISP
	descr: ********************************
	Abuse & intrusion reports should
	be done done online at:
	http://www.comhem.se/publik/portlets/abuse/begin.do
	********************************
	country: SE
	admin-c: CH1252-RIPE
	tech-c: CH1252-RIPE
	status: ASSIGNED PA
	mnt-by: COMHEM-MNT
	source: RIPE # Filtered
	role: com hem LIR
	address: Com Hem AB
	Birger Jarlsgatan 57B
	Box 191 50
	Stockholm 104 32
	SWEDEN
	********************************
	Abuse & intrusion reports should
	be done online at:
	http://www.comhem.se/publik/portlets/abuse/begin.do
	********************************
	phone: +46 8 55363000
	fax-no: +46 8 6601640
	] is located in the same area. An interesting coincidence, no? --] 15:24, 23 December 2006 (UTC)





	==={{User\|Ekajati}}===
	] has been on an ongoing spree of harassing ]. There is a pattern of this behaviour with several other users. Most recently he/she has been using racist ad hominem and exhibiting a total lack of ]. Here are two relevant instances. I have warned the user with <nowiki> {{npa4im}}</nowiki>, but only after noticing it. Prior to that, ] has been practically begging this person to cease harassing on her user page.- ] 01:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Just converting those links to non-secure-enwiki difflinks... . While it does look like a bit of a heated dispute, I'm not sure that a block would help to calm things down. It's not the most civil thing I've ever seen, but it's far from the worst, either. Will try to keep an eye on it. ] 23:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Yes, this does sounds to be rather minor, with the exception of calling another user a 'hypocrite', although without following the diffs more I can't tell if this is earned or not. ] is not a slurr, but can be absed, I'd strongly recommend that Ekjati should refrain from using such terms in a dispute, unless he clearly explains why it is applicable in this term - and in that case, some form of ] may be more useful then name-calling in anycase.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</span></sub> 20:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::Um, I'm not sure you (] and ]) actually noted the problem language. ] has worked extensively on Irish cultural articles and is identified on her user page as a member of ]. In , ] called Kathryn a liar because of her affinity for Irish cultural heritage. Or to put it another way, Ekajati said all Irish people are inclined to lie as a racial or cultural trait. This is a racist slur. --] (] • ]) 00:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
	::::You know, you bring up a good point. =\ If I'd caught that sooner, I'd be more able to do something about it. As is, they seem to have stopped for the time being, and I'd be concerned that warning them might only remind them or encourage further disruption. Feel free to correct me, if I'm wrong on that count. ] 09:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)







	==={{User\|Halibutt}}===

	Particular ] left very inappropriate remark regarding many different contributors (message appears on his main user page):

	''Unfortunately, an ongoing campaign of slander and blackmail against me has forced me to abandon wikipedia for some time. Death threats from Ghirlandajo, anti-semitic comments from Renata and her Lithuanian pals, offending my parents by Dr.Dan, offending my nationality and culture by the nationalist Lithuanian community here - all these were a step too far. Perhaps I'll come back when they change their ways - or wiki finally starts to defend serious editors against trolls and ultra-nationalists. Regards, //Halibutt''

	Please note causations made by him are - ''anti-semitic comments''; ''Death threats'' and accusation to '''all''' Lithuanian community etc. Later this message was changed by different contributor., because Halibutt refused to do it by himself This is not the first time, when Halibutt misconducts in this area:
	and was warned not to proceed with attacks some time ago: but refused it . Would be good if neutral contributors could evaluate this users' "comments". ] 00:31, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

	: '''Reveiwer comment''' • It's certainly loaded accusations, and something they should prove if they can, but not really "personal attack" material. Specifically, this really isn't the right venue to get a remedy. I would suggest ] or, if administrative action is needed, ]. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 01:15, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
	: Halibutt's responce certainly contained some phrases that can be seen as offending or at the very least, an overinterpretation (death threats?), I'll drop him a note to avoid them in the future. However, as seen at ] and ], Halibutt has been under a long series of attacks by various uses, including M.K., who show no sign of relenting, and as the note above indicates have succeed in driving the ] from this project, which is certainly a great loss to all of us. I'd strongly suggest a mediation or ArbCom, as RfC are not designed to solve a problem where many sides are at fault (and this certainly not a 'black and white' story).--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</span></sub> 19:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
	Peter, if neutral contributor says that there are no violation I would not press and spamm same message again, but once more some "comments" of this user came out:
	''Remember Ghirlandajo, Dan, Juraune, M.K., Iulius, and countless other '''trolls''' who do it all the time?'' To this is quite a violation of rules don't you think? Especially when at least one of these mentioned "trolls" never meet particular contributor face to face, AFAIK. I believe this should be properly investigated. ] 12:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	A day late, and a dollar short: as I said on M.K.'s talk page, bringing this complaint is not a very reasonable way to act. I had already removed the offending material; Piotrus agreed with me; Halibutt did not restore it - drama over and done before the notice was posted. More good faith and fewer attacks would be nice for 2007, but most of all, no more use of PAIN, AN, and ANI, to stir up trouble. Seasons greetings to all, ] ] 23:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	* '''Reviewer Comment''' • I thank you for your concern M.K., and would like to say that I appreciate you being proactive about such an issue. However I would like to suggest that before you report something here, you attempt to have a dialogue with all the parties involved to try to remedy the problem. Only post here if the problem persists, as that is when it warrants our attention. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 23:18, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
	** Trouble is, it was attempted a few times already by several different people. Everyone just gave up. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 01:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	==={{user\|Freedom skies}}===
	I'm not usually at a loss for words, but I am now.
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	The last one not so much, and there's a couple more, but I'm getting tired of even this process. I've been told that I can post here though all I've done is leave a warning on his talk page. This may not be some big huge case, but it's huge to me. I've been called a liar, incompetent, and had an inquiry made about the state of my mental health. I can't take it anymore.] (] <small>•</small> ] <small>•</small> <span class="plainlinks"></span>) 04:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Freedom skies is an excellent editor. he contributes on many topics such and martial arts, history, and religion. I see no reason to sully such an editor.--] 12:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	:: About the lies and the incompetence accusations that I made:-

	:: Nina writes that "One historian has rejected Pushyamitra’s persecution of Buddhists" when the sentence following immediately has Etienne Lamotte and Koenraad Elst rejecting the accusations. More authors can be found on Checking the link/citations provided.

	:: Nina repeatedly writes "Two prominent historians have rejected Pushyamitra’s persecution of Buddhists." when at least Etienne Lamotte, Romila Thapar and Koenraad Elst are mentioned in there.

	:: If I am to be blamed for finding her actions of taking the number of historians mentioned in the article and substracting it by one inexplicably bizzare and disruptive then so be it. I stand by my convictions.

	:: She has also tried to force placing a link that does not work. is the first link in . Access it and you should come across a "Sorry: We're Unable to Locate that Page" message.

	:: Before I came to this article the article was . Due to my efforts citations and extensive cleanup has been done. .

	:: Nina and her friend Tigeroo have been trying to push for versions with repeated copy and paste sections (two in the same article), derogatory terminology and they won't listen to reason.

	:: Kindly see in detail for explaination of why I lost my patience.

	:: I may have lost my patience but any verification will reveal that my accusations are verifiable and I have been attempting singlehandedly to maintain sanity in the article. Anyone in my place would have lost his/her patience.
	:: <span class="sigFreedom skies" style="background:gold;color:#FF0000"> ]</span> 08:04, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	:If anyone cares to investigate, datestamps are a good thing to look at. The links in question work, at least on my browser and computer. ] (] <small>•</small> ] <small>•</small> <span class="plainlinks"></span>) 14:34, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	::They dont seem to work. Also Freedom Skies seems to have been up against two users gaming the system to defame Hindus on wikipedia. After a notorious Arbitration case {{user\|Tigeroo}} seems to have gone on a rampage against Hinduism related articles. I have no idea who NinaEliza is but Freedom Skies has dealt with way too many users gaming the system and revert warring. Besides, the violations deal more with ] which is a policy never followed on India related articles. <b>]]</b> 16:10, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::'''Comment''' • ] is a ] on Misplaced Pages. Those who do not follow it are a negative influence on the encyclopedia and may be ] Note that this is a comment in general in response to Baka's comment, not on the case itself, which I am still looking over at the moment. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 21:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	] ( <small>•</small> ] <small>•</small> <span class="plainlinks"></span>) 21:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	* '''Reviewer Comment''' • I have some friendly advice for {{user\|Freedom skies}} on his talk page. You can read it ]. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 21:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	One might also consider the datestamps and positioning of the comments on this talk page. ] (] <small>•</small> ] <small>•</small> <span class="plainlinks"></span>) 23:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	* '''Reviewer Comment'''• If you feel further action is needed, please elaborate as to why. Cheers, ✎ <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ( ] • ] )</span> 23:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

	*I feel the user who placed a "final warning" on Freedom Skies was attacked at his own talk page, and in a particularly vicious manner. Something needs to be done about this user. However, I have withdrawn from the article in question for the time being. As for D-Boy, Bakaman, Ambroodey, and Freedom Skies, they are all free to comment on me at my editor review. I'm sure they'll find the way. In the meantime, I invite them all to ''get thee behind me''. ] (] <small>•</small> ] <small>•</small> <span class="plainlinks"></span>) 04:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	:*Felt like I might chime in with my penny (half of ]), I've seen ] about in a few articles I've been involved with in editing and she has never made any kind of personal attacks there and she seems to be of good general character (not that I'm going to go through and look at all the evidence given above, don't won't to become that deeply involved with all this...). ] <sup>]</sup> 07:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::*The is well appreciated by me. Nina and Tigeroo's actions of never resorting to corrections before I point them to, indiscriminately reverting to versions with mistakes of extra = in headings and repeated copied and pasted sections (often two copies of the same section in the same article), insisting on repeating single incidents of any Hindu involvement thrice or more in the same article and deleting the BBC citation about the Hinduism/religious non conversion connection, puting Dr. Ambedekar before Dharmpala, erasing every mention of his holiness Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyasto altogather, repeating insulting terminology, using terms like "Bhaktis" for people related to the Bhakti movement, making the most basic of spelling errors and making remarks like "doesn't this article say that pretty much after Khilji it was all over for Buddhists anyway" initiated the whole process. Nina has said that she does not which was the reason for my remarks about her competence. Like most people, I don't appreciate when users persistently revert a version with citations and grammer corrections to one with repeated copied and pasted sections, spelling mistakes, heading errors, indiscriminate repititions and such. <sub><span style="border:3px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</span></sub> 18:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	:*Someone said "she has never made any kind of personal attacks there and she seems to be of good general character." Her remark is an personal attack. This is despite of her and Tigeroo reverting to versions full of errors. I made extensive corrections and got the content reverted by those who won't take the time to research but like to revert in a click or two. When I corrected, condensed, inquired and cited I was told I was "being disruptive" by someone who does not . <sub><span style="border:3px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</span></sub> 19:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Am I the ] here, or am I the ]?] 19:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	:The question of pot or the kettle does not arise here. My stating of was in response to "she has '''never''' made any kind of personal attacks there and she seems to be of good general character." As for the question, did'nt you yourself say that you were someone who does not . ] or ] do not are also silent on users who won't research but persistently revert the works of those who actually contribute to the making of an encyclopedia. <sub><span style="border:3px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</span></sub> 20:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

	===Vandal on Janjua discussion===
	{{vandal\|81.105.254.253}} This user is a sock puppet of a user who has been banned through various Ip's for personal attacks, this is another personal attack. They know I am a Muslim Punjabi, yet this user tells me sarcastically to stick to the Sikh ] for ''inspiration'', and also calls me a super''shaitani'' (]i means satanic) as a mick take of my user name ] evidence is faith and racial hate at it's best. Thanks for this people! --] 15:46, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
	:User warned. ] <small>]</small> 03:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

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This page is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference.
Either the page is no longer relevant or consensus on its purpose has become unclear. To revive discussion, seek broader input via a forum such as the village pump.

This process has been discontinued per this discussion.

The personal attack intervention noticeboard (PAIN), created on 7 October 2005, was intended as a counterpart to the request for intervention against vandalism page. A person with complaints over personal attacks could, after giving warnings, report a personal attacker on this page.

Unfortunately, the noticeboard generated a considerable amount of controversy. While vandalism is usually a clear cut case, and administrator intervention (i.e. blocking) is usually uncontroversial, determining whether a comment is a personal attack, incivil, or just simply blunt and frank, can be quite subjective. That led to a lot of arguments, flame wars, tit-for-tat disputes and wikilawyering on this page. Even after several warnings as well as changes to the header designed to instruct users on how to use this page, this noticeboard continued to deteriorate. Due to this deterioration as well as some particularly poor exchanges in December 2006, the entire page was nominated for deletion, with the result that the noticeboard was closed on 10 January 2007.

The closure of this noticeboard does not mean that personal attacks are tolerated; they should never be. It simply means that complaints over personal attacks are moved to different, and more appropriate venues such as the administrators' noticeboard, dispute resolution or, as a last resort, arbitration.

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