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	==Dispute resolution==

			==Hello!==
	I've opened up a discussion mentioning you here:
			Hi, Cassianto,

			I was wondering if you decided to return to the project. I know we had some disagreements years ago but you've been missed! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 19:01, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
			:Hello {{u\|Liz}}, thanks ever so much for your message, that's very kind of you. The jury is currently out deciding if I made the right decision to return, but I guess only time will tell. There's a few bits on here that I wanted to do (time allowing) so hopefully I can be left alone in relative peace to get on with it. I must admit, I can't remember our disagreements, but I certainly bear no grudge. I think it's important to remember that having disagreements is a fundamental part of human interaction and are good and healthy to have. Thanks for popping by and I hope to see you around. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 20:21, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
			::Hello, Cassianto. I, too, want to welcome you back. I remember disagreeing with you from time to time, but I never once doubted that you have made outstanding contributions to this encyclopedia. I hope that resumes and I wish you well. ] (]) 20:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
			:::Thanks Jim. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 21:07, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
			:::Good to see you back! I sent you a gmail message just to check if you got my email!♦ ] 19:18, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
			::::Thanks {{u\|Dr. Blofeld}}, I've not been receiving your messages, which I find most odd. The Gmail one went straight to my junk. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 19:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
			:::::Yesterday I sent a link to my cousin, and he said it was blocked from viewing. It's starting to feel like somebody is monitoring and censoring things! I got your test, see if you get the Got It email. My sister's husband, a fit guy of only 43 almost died of a heart attack last week, artery 98% collapsed.♦ ] 07:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
			::::::I'm so very sorry to hear that, how devastating for your family. There certainly seems to be a lot of unexplained heart problems at the moment. I wonder what's causing it? '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 18:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
			:::::::Just sent you an email, did you get it? ♦ ] 17:58, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
			::::::::I did and replied. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 06:38, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

			== About bloody time! ==

			- ] (]) 14:56, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
			:<small>Tell me about it! I've missed not having anyone to call a c- ahem ;) ] 15:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)</small>
			::I've missed your C bombs, {{u\|Serial Number 54129\|SN}}; it's one of the reasons I returned as I was having withdrawal symptoms. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 06:44, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
			:{{u\|SchroCat\|You're}} too kind, thanks. By the way, where has the "thank" button gone? '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 06:52, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
			:Welcome back, good to see you. - Dank (]) 03:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
			::Thanks {{u\|Dank\|Dan}}, good to hear from you. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 13:36, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
			:In the best Australianese, I can only echo the section heading... ;-) While we're here, {{u\|Dank\|Dan}} it's good to see you back at TFA...! Cheers, ] (]) 13:48, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
			::Much thanks, {{u\|Ian Rose\|Ian}}, lovely to hear from you. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 15:32, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
			::Thanks {{u\|Ian Rose\|Ian}}. <s>Btw, can you recommend a TFA article (rerun or not) for ] on 26 January? ] and ] are options, but I'm a little wary because Main Page people tend to scrutinize country and city articles. - Dank (]) 15:51, 19 July 2023 (UTC)</s> Striking ... too controversial, we'll find a different day. - Dank (]) 12:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
			:Fuck me dead. I genuinely thought you'd retired for good, even took this talk page off my watchlist. Welcome back. I hope you've been well. ] (]) 21:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
			::Ha, I had some unfinished business ] and ], and Mrs Cassianto was getting annoyed with the books hanging around, so I thought I'd get these finished. Hope you're well! '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 21:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

			== Email ==

			I sent you something this morning and got back "This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address failed: (yours)

			SMTP error from remote server for MAIL FROM command, blablabla. All messages from my (ip) will be permanently def erred; Retrying will NOT succeed. ♦ ] 11:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

			:I've emailed you back. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 11:48, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
			::It blocked the second attempt too! So I just tried sending two urls. ♦ ] 16:18, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
			:::You got it! ♦ ] 16:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
			::::Thanks very much, yes, and duly forwarded on to others of like mindedness :) '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 16:46, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

			== Good to see your name ==

			Good to see your name around. I'm not the most active these days, but a positive for the project that you're around. ] (]) 00:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

			:Thanks Tony. I had some unfinished projects eating away at my conscience, so felt it right to return to get them finished. I hope you're well. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 07:52, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
			Echoing this- delighted to see you back. ] (]) 15:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

			:Thank you for the kind message, Jip. Hope to see you around. All the best '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 16:29, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
			::Hi {{ping\|Cassianto}} Good to see you back. I'm really glad your back with your original name, which I thought was cool. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 20:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
			:::That's very kind, thank you. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 21:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
			:Great to see you also Cas. Its almost like old times and hope you are well. ] (]) 18:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
			::Bless you, {{u\|Ceoil}}, lovely to hear from you. All good here; please give my best to Liz. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 19:03, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

			== About the “attack page” ==

			I was recording the apparent stance of editors of the Gilbert and Sullivan project on infoboxes to make a case about systemic bias on the project as almost all active users don’t seem terribly fond of infoboxes. Even if you disagree with the categorization that hardly constitutes an “attack”, especially in comparison with ]. ] (]) 20:46, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
			:Well don't. I don't much enjoy having my name secretly recorded by strangers off the internet. Your list is not only weird and creepy and akin to what the Nazis did in the 1940s, it is also factually wrong. I'm not "anti" anything, and if you bothered to check my article creation history, you'll see that I have included infoboxes on many of the articles I have started. But then you wouldn't have, would you, as it'll ruin your narrative. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 20:55, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
			::It’s not “secret” if you found it. ] (]) 20:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
			:::Correction, I was told about it. Secret or not, it's weird. Please remove my name. You've no reason to include it anywhere and accompany it with false information. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 21:04, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

			== Re yesterday ==

			Hello Cassianto. Sorry about what happened yesterday. I was overly aggressive and I apologise. I'm not in the business of burning bridges and I'm not going to be starting now. I don't like Misplaced Pages pile-ons and got a bit annoyed at seeing one happen to an editor whom I've had a positive opinion of for a while now. Please don't think I'm a bad faith actor sniping from the sidelines: just trying to do what I think is right, but obviously chose the nuclear option there. Don't want to kill any future collaboration we may have on an article, so coming here to rebuild that bridge. All the best for the future - ] (]) 13:30, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

			:Dear {{u\|Tim O'Doherty\|Tim}}, thank you for your message. It was an unfortunate situation and not one I wish to see repeated. Whilst it is regrettable that you and I had crossed words, and I bear no grudge, I don't regret my initial concern with my name being used, alongside a false description, on a weird list by a complete stranger. Anyway, let's hope that is now behind us. Best regards. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 20:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
			::Thanks. Again, I apologise. Never met you before, so regret that was our first interaction. Just to clear the air. Cheers - ] (]) 22:48, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
			:::I apologise too. Hope to see you around. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 06:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

			==And some trolls call me obsessive!==
			Plus ca change with those who "never speak about" such things, unless it's behind people's backs ''and'' in the gutter at the same time! Hope you're keeping well; we'll have to sort out some pre-Christmas drinks with ] sometime. Cheers - ] (]) 22:07, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

			:Sadly, these people (I can think of other words) will never realise who the real trouble makers are around infoboxes; it's certainly plain enough for the rest of us to see, which leads me to believe that perhaps they're in on it. It's my belief that the reason these infobox trolls and their admin enablers are all so full of their own self importance in the pretend world of Misplaced Pages is that they need to make up for clear inadequacies they have in reality. God forbid if these people are in real life positions of power. I'll be in touch about Christmas - let's arrange something. December is looking more likely than this month. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 07:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
			::This is from the old fella (] will pay for his impertinence). You'd both better come round to Riley Towers again in December. A buffet and any amount of wet will be available. Kindly sort some dates out by email; I can't do 1st, 4th or 12th. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">]]</span>''' 22:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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	== ~~FAC review?~~ ==		== Seasons Greetings!==

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	Hi Cassianto - at my last (and first) visit to FAC, you were kind enough to give my article ] a very thorough review; by the end of it, you graciously said that you hoped to see me back there soon. Well, I'm there again, with ], which I rewrote with Gog the Mild. If you have the time and inclination, I'd really appreciate another review from you. Cheers ]] 17:44, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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	:{{u\|Girth Summit}}, great to see. I owe {{u\|Gog the Mild}} a review or two, too, so I'll be along in the next few days. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 17:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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	::{{u\|Cassianto}}, thanks Cassianto, I'll look forward to seeing it. ]] 19:50, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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	== ~~Boxed~~ ~~in.~~ ==		== Happy Christmas ==

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	Howdy, Cassianto & {{ping\|SchroCat}}, as it was with the usage/over-usage of diacritics & will be with across the board de-capitalisation of office titles? So it will eventually be with infoboxes at bios. A majority of editors usually decide the outcome. I fear that ] is only the beginning, concerning infoboxes in all bios. Nobody ever accused Misplaced Pages of being open-minded. ] (]) 15:25, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
			<big>'''Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.'''<br/>Happy Christmas and Best wishes for a peaceful 2024.</big> <br> ] (]) 13:23, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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			== ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message ==
	:Hi {{u\|GoodDay}}. After the outright lies told by a couple of the IB warriors there ''and'' the PAs by several (including one admin) ''and'' the reactivated sleeper accounts ''and'' the obvious troll-socks ''and'' the bad faith shown by several—let alone the fact that the ArbCom restrictions have been ignored by several—I stopped watching it some time ago. When administrators and arbitrators are ignoring blatant breaches of the ArbCom restrictions that they have been made aware of, I wonder why I bother with it all. For all the ongoing finger pointing about ‘oh, it’s the anti-IBers that are being rude and naughty’, it’s clear in that thread who is the more aggressive and relentless side of the discussion. Sadly I think you are right: there is an unthinking and closed-minded approach that demands IBs without even considering the other side of the argument. – ] (]) 16:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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	::Indeed, as mentioned above, I've been through MOS disputes before. Sadly, infoboxes in bios will eventually become mandatory & anybody who dares attempt to get a consensus to 'remove' them from any bio? will be dragged off to ANI or Arbcom. Heck, there's even a group of editors, who've gotten the project to go along with the view that ], ] & ] were ''never'' a part of the ]. -- ] (]) 16:40, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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	::<sigh> I hope not. But ] at what this editor has been doing. I can't fault them for doing so as in the majority (from what I can tell), there has been a request for an IB on the talk pages. I think they are going through the backlog of 'pages that have an infobox request' and adding them even when they are of dubious quality. ] (]) 18:13, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
	:::I hope not too, but I think it likely that it a rule to have IBs on all articles (or all biographies) will be pushed for over and over and over by the IB warriors until it is in place. Rather like the editor you’ve shown, there is a relentlessness to include them at all costs and regardless of benefit. But I’ve been accused by the IB warriors of systematically removing them from swathes of articles – that’s just one of the numerous lies that’s been spread. Unfortunately I see one of the prime disruptive pushers lining up other pages to continue the mess elsewhere. - ] (]) 19:05, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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	:::I've seen this method adopted all too often, before. An editor or group of editors go around make changes to several articles, to comply with their PoV. Then they come back latter to the disputed article & 'again' demand such a change be made, because it's already been made to other (by them) articles. In other words - 'the rest of the houses in the community have now been painted blue, so therefore ''all'' the houses must be painted blue'. ] (]) 19:18, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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	:::{{u\|Jip Orlando}}, I've just seen the edits on the link you've given above, and this is what I mean; whilst their edits are well-intentioned, they are sadly misinformed and oblivious to how pointless their edits actually are. , for instance tells us nothing that the first line doesn't. The box here is simply a repeat for idiots who can't be arsed to read a sentence. Also, where was ]? Fine, it's not been reverted, but who watches a stub like that? Now, the likes of Gerda Arendt would likely tell you that the '''bold''' edit here would be the reverting of it, should someone be savvy enough do it. And if it was to be reverted, then that is when the troops from Camp Infobox arrive to revert it back, telling ''you'' not to edit war, and because it remained in place for a good few hours, then the thoughts and wishes of the omnipresent "silent consensus" should be respected and that it should be kept. Another classic cookie is "oh, but an arts biography infobox is essential for those wanting to find quick facts". Who comes to this shit hole to find "quick facts"? No, no, no, you stick it in the search bar on your device, even before you've thought of WP, and Google does the rest. It's utter, unintelligible bollocks. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 08:35, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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			== Seasons Greetings!==
	I unwatched Kubrick and Grant a long time ago, and I've done the same with Sinatra, just last week. I couldn't give a toss about them - not my work, I was simply standing up for the rights of writers who took the time to improve them in the first place and who chose not to cater for people cheating in pub quizzes. El_C, Bishonen, Johnuniq, the kindly fellow who made a PA on the Sinatra talk page (laughably described as an "admin" and whose name I can't be bothered to remember), an entire ArbCom committee, both past and present, have all ignored the problem, and are as much to blame for the continuing infobox dramas as the disrupters who force this crap onto arts biographies in the first place. And they have the cheek to complain that the endless arguments are draining! And they wonder why Misplaced Pages is being left behind in favour of other sites. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 19:57, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
	:I understand your frustrations. ] (]) 20:36, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
	::I can't remember which one of the troublemakers it was over at Sinatra, but they claimed that since the compromise "the wound has festered". Of course it has, to you, because you cannot accept compromise, that's why. These people are the very worst of Misplaced Pages; no good to anyone. They honestly think that by forcing this uninformative, pointless, repetitive shit onto arts biographies, these "anti-infobxers" (a more wrong description you'd be hard pushed to find) are simply going to melt away, problem solved. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 22:35, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
	:::Isn't it funny that almost all the oppose comments are being berated? <span style='font:bold small-caps 0.94em "Nimbus Mono L";color:#000000'>]]</span> 22:48, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
	::::Of course. Four admins have been told and four admins have ignored it. But it's me who's the problem. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 23:06, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
	::::Past experience in other areas (which now have cemented views), tell me the same is coming for Bios articles, concerning infoboxes. ] (]) 22:54, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
	:::::Did I just see another case of a group of people failing to compromise? '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 23:06, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
	::::::You certainly did. ] (]) 23:32, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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	Can somebody explain to Mr Thicky here what the actual problems are? If it's the Sinatra RfC, I predict a "no consensus" close, and I can't see anyone who has persistently badgered enough to be able to throw an ] sanction at them. I'm afraid when I start reading reams of infobox discussions, I start to wonder if gauging my eyes out with red hot pokers might be a more pleasurable activity? I'm certain you understand. ] ] ] 15:09, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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			==Merry Christmas!==
	::Okay, I've given out two discretionary sanctions alerts to the editors I think you're complaining about. Next sign of disruption from them = block. ] ] ] 15:35, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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			== Nadolig Llawen ==
	:::{{u\|Ritchie333}}, since your post here, we have had , in response to SN, and when SN , we had from Levivich. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 19:19, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
	::::I've dropped HAL a note. Without wishing to make excuses, Levivich is just ..... being Levivich and in your case it's probably best to just ignore him. ] ] ] 19:27, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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	:{{ec}} Hi Ritchie, I agree entirely with the last point - it's a deeply depressing timesink, as it always is.
			<big>'''Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.'''<br/>Happy Christmas and Best wishes for a peaceful 2025:</big> performed by the ].<br />(], ] folk carol)
	:The problem isn't that there is excessive badgering by an individual (I think the message was put out very firmly from the start), but you'll note that most who have opposed has had their rationales questioned by one of several people (I am not suggesting that people are taking it in turns to spread the questioning out, but it's interesting to note that the "questioning" is all from one side, which has an effect of raising questions in a closing admins eyes). Aside from that there are three questionable accounts who have joined in (one possible sleeper account and likely two socks, if I let my AGF slip for a moment). Have another look at the comments made and see which group has personalised the debate - not focusing on the question of the box, but mentioning particularly Cass and me (and telling lies in the process, including by at least one long-standing editor). That is categorically against the last ArbCom decision (or "The IB Warriors Charter" as the case should realistically be called). If ArbCom were serious about actually dealing with the matter, rather than looking for an excuse to kick Cass, then these breaches shouldn't stand. (And the less said about baiting like , the better. Why he thinks this is appropriate to do is beyond me - it's just an attempt to get a rise out of me.)
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	:An admin "{{tq\|Appeasing a handful of obstinate and OWN-y editors is not a very good reason to oppose}}" (and this was ''after'' I left the sanctions notice on their talk page). What the fuck is that all about? If Cass had posted something along those lines he'd be blocked in a heartbeat, but and admin - a fucking ''admin'' thinks he's above any censure and allowed to post crap like that? That's just not good enough, and yet we all know that no action will be taken, and despite the fact that you see 'no consensus', I'll lay good odds that if it were to close today, the decision will miraculously find a consensus to uncollapse. - ] (]) 15:44, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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	::Yeah, I've posted on the Sinatra RfC now, suggesting no change and giving arguments for either side and saying why we've got to compromise. Which is kind of what admins do, right, defuse difficult situations and work out a way of getting people back to editing instead of arguing, right? ] ] ] 16:52, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hello!

Hi, Cassianto,

I was wondering if you decided to return to the project. I know we had some disagreements years ago but you've been missed! Liz 19:01, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello Liz, thanks ever so much for your message, that's very kind of you. The jury is currently out deciding if I made the right decision to return, but I guess only time will tell. There's a few bits on here that I wanted to do (time allowing) so hopefully I can be left alone in relative peace to get on with it. I must admit, I can't remember our disagreements, but I certainly bear no grudge. I think it's important to remember that having disagreements is a fundamental part of human interaction and are good and healthy to have. Thanks for popping by and I hope to see you around. Cassianto 20:21, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Cassianto. I, too, want to welcome you back. I remember disagreeing with you from time to time, but I never once doubted that you have made outstanding contributions to this encyclopedia. I hope that resumes and I wish you well. Cullen328 (talk) 20:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Jim. Cassianto 21:07, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Good to see you back! I sent you a gmail message just to check if you got my email!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:18, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Dr. Blofeld, I've not been receiving your messages, which I find most odd. The Gmail one went straight to my junk. Cassianto 19:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Yesterday I sent a link to my cousin, and he said it was blocked from viewing. It's starting to feel like somebody is monitoring and censoring things! I got your test, see if you get the Got It email. My sister's husband, a fit guy of only 43 almost died of a heart attack last week, artery 98% collapsed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm so very sorry to hear that, how devastating for your family. There certainly seems to be a lot of unexplained heart problems at the moment. I wonder what's causing it? Cassianto 18:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Just sent you an email, did you get it? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:58, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

I did and replied. Cassianto 06:38, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

About bloody time!

- SchroCat (talk) 14:56, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Tell me about it! I've missed not having anyone to call a c- *ahem* ;) SN54129 15:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I've missed your C bombs, SN; it's one of the reasons I returned as I was having withdrawal symptoms. Cassianto 06:44, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

You're too kind, thanks. By the way, where has the "thank" button gone? Cassianto 06:52, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Welcome back, good to see you. - Dank (push to talk) 03:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Dan, good to hear from you. Cassianto 13:36, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

In the best Australianese, I can only echo the section heading... ;-) While we're here, Dan it's good to see you back at TFA...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:48, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Much thanks, Ian, lovely to hear from you. Cassianto 15:32, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Ian. Btw, can you recommend a TFA article (rerun or not) for Australia Day on 26 January? Australia and Canberra are options, but I'm a little wary because Main Page people tend to scrutinize country and city articles. - Dank (push to talk) 15:51, 19 July 2023 (UTC) Striking ... too controversial, we'll find a different day. - Dank (push to talk) 12:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Fuck me dead. I genuinely thought you'd retired for good, even took this talk page off my watchlist. Welcome back. I hope you've been well. Mr rnddude (talk) 21:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Ha, I had some unfinished business here and here, and Mrs Cassianto was getting annoyed with the books hanging around, so I thought I'd get these finished. Hope you're well! Cassianto 21:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Email

I sent you something this morning and got back "This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address failed: (yours)

SMTP error from remote server for MAIL FROM command, blablabla. All messages from my (ip) will be permanently def erred; Retrying will NOT succeed. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

I've emailed you back. Cassianto 11:48, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

It blocked the second attempt too! So I just tried sending two urls. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:18, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

You got it! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks very much, yes, and duly forwarded on to others of like mindedness :) Cassianto 16:46, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Good to see your name

Good to see your name around. I'm not the most active these days, but a positive for the project that you're around. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Tony. I had some unfinished projects eating away at my conscience, so felt it right to return to get them finished. I hope you're well. Cassianto 07:52, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Echoing this- delighted to see you back. Jip Orlando (talk) 15:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind message, Jip. Hope to see you around. All the best Cassianto 16:29, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Cassianto: Good to see you back. I'm really glad your back with your original name, which I thought was cool. scope_creep 20:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

That's very kind, thank you. Cassianto 21:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Great to see you also Cas. Its almost like old times and hope you are well. Ceoil (talk) 18:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Bless you, Ceoil, lovely to hear from you. All good here; please give my best to Liz. Cassianto 19:03, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

About the “attack page”

I was recording the apparent stance of editors of the Gilbert and Sullivan project on infoboxes to make a case about systemic bias on the project as almost all active users don’t seem terribly fond of infoboxes. Even if you disagree with the categorization that hardly constitutes an “attack”, especially in comparison with your comparison of me to the Schutzstaffel. Dronebogus (talk) 20:46, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Well don't. I don't much enjoy having my name secretly recorded by strangers off the internet. Your list is not only weird and creepy and akin to what the Nazis did in the 1940s, it is also factually wrong. I'm not "anti" anything, and if you bothered to check my article creation history, you'll see that I have included infoboxes on many of the articles I have started. But then you wouldn't have, would you, as it'll ruin your narrative. Cassianto 20:55, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

It’s not “secret” if you found it. Dronebogus (talk) 20:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Correction, I was told about it. Secret or not, it's weird. Please remove my name. You've no reason to include it anywhere and accompany it with false information. Cassianto 21:04, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Re yesterday

Hello Cassianto. Sorry about what happened yesterday. I was overly aggressive and I apologise. I'm not in the business of burning bridges and I'm not going to be starting now. I don't like Misplaced Pages pile-ons and got a bit annoyed at seeing one happen to an editor whom I've had a positive opinion of for a while now. Please don't think I'm a bad faith actor sniping from the sidelines: just trying to do what I think is right, but obviously chose the nuclear option there. Don't want to kill any future collaboration we may have on an article, so coming here to rebuild that bridge. All the best for the future - Tim O'Doherty (talk) 13:30, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Dear Tim, thank you for your message. It was an unfortunate situation and not one I wish to see repeated. Whilst it is regrettable that you and I had crossed words, and I bear no grudge, I don't regret my initial concern with my name being used, alongside a false description, on a weird list by a complete stranger. Anyway, let's hope that is now behind us. Best regards. Cassianto 20:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Again, I apologise. Never met you before, so regret that was our first interaction. Just to clear the air. Cheers - Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:48, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

I apologise too. Hope to see you around. Cassianto 06:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

And some trolls call me obsessive!

Pointless noise and yet still missing the point? Plus ca change with those who "never speak about" such things, unless it's behind people's backs and in the gutter at the same time! Hope you're keeping well; we'll have to sort out some pre-Christmas drinks with the old fella sometime. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 22:07, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Sadly, these people (I can think of other words) will never realise who the real trouble makers are around infoboxes; it's certainly plain enough for the rest of us to see, which leads me to believe that perhaps they're in on it. It's my belief that the reason these infobox trolls and their admin enablers are all so full of their own self importance in the pretend world of Misplaced Pages is that they need to make up for clear inadequacies they have in reality. God forbid if these people are in real life positions of power. I'll be in touch about Christmas - let's arrange something. December is looking more likely than this month. Cassianto 07:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

This is from the old fella (SchroCat will pay for his impertinence). You'd both better come round to Riley Towers again in December. A buffet and any amount of wet will be available. Kindly sort some dates out by email; I can't do 1st, 4th or 12th. Tim riley talk 22:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!

Have a great Christmas, and may 2024 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls, vandals or visits from Krampus!

Cheers

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Seasons Greetings!

Hello there, thanks for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2024! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:01, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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