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Again, welcome! And if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask - Just '''''' to leave me a message. <br>]<sup>a.k.a.D<font color="green">]</font>epu<font color="white">_</font>Joseph |<font color="green">]</font></sup> </div>


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I'm not exactly sure, but you have contributed to a few articles . Your edits are indeed being . I'm guessing that perhaps instead of clicking the "save page" button below, you might have clicked the "show preview" button? Is there any special article on which your edits were not saved? Did you check the article's history (by clicking the history button on top)? Perhaps someone must have ] your edits. Please let me know. --]<sup>a.k.a.D<font color="green">]</font>epu<font color="white">&nbsp;</font>Joseph&nbsp;|<font color="green">]</font></sup>


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== Your posting to the Village Pump (proposals) page ==
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== For ST vs SW ==
Hi Nadirali,


Thanks for your posting about Star Trek and Star Wars to the Village Pump (porposals) page. Unfortunately the page you posted to is not an appropriate place for discussing the content of these articles. Please bring up your concerns on the articles' talk pages (i.e. ] and ]) instead. Also, when you add a message to any talk page, please sign your comment by putting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> (that's four ] characters) at the end; this automatically gets expanded to your signature and a timestamp. Thanks, ] 15:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


==Star Wars articles==
Please stop changing the category titles for the Star Wars films from "science fantasy" to "science fiction". Lucas has stated in many interviews that the films are not science fiction and this has been accepted in recent years by the general media. Sources for some of these can be found in the ] article. Thank you. ] 18:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
*Please, the fact of Star Wars "science fantasy" category has been voted through on a number of FACs regarding the prequel trilogy. All prequel trilogy films are now ]s, they are considered to be the best on Misplaced Pages. If you wish to dispute the category, do so in the talk page of one of the films instead of simply changing the article to your liking. On Misplaced Pages we work by consensus, and the majority of editors believe that Star Wars is "science fantasy". However, if you have suitable reasoning as to why it should be changed, please state it in the talk page and we may agree with you. Thank you. ] 15:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


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Thank you for contacting. I have been to Saudi Arabia. You are absolutely right about ‎their behavior with Pakistanis. Personally, I think all Islamic scripts should be removed ‎from all the flags like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. And OIC could ‎pressurize them. When someone desecrates these flags, Islamic scripts on them are also ‎desecrated.‎ ] 16:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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Sir, I have read and noted your concerns on the ]. I am not going to call you a "moron" outright, although I may just question your motives in this case. This is not a reflection on your intelligence nor your capacity for rational thought (which it would be if I did call you a ), but rather a rebuke against your provocative statements on that talk page which are clearly calculated to incite.
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] is ] because it involves a narrative setting which differs from the present-day real world in terms of technology and ]. The futurology aspect is "scientific" because the narrative specifically invokes scientific advances and discoveries as the motive force behind the development of society to the state seen in the stories. That is, economic and religious factors are negligible or absent factors in the narrated future as depicted in Star Trek; the characters do the things they do because they have more advanced scientific and technological knowledges, resources and tools than we do in this present day. This is axiomatically "science fiction".
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== A barnstar for you! ==
You have - fairly, in my opinion - cited examples of storylines and narrative events which appear to have no scientific basis, eg ]. However those things, whilst better classified as ] in their own right, do not alter the classification of the whole as science fiction. The characters in the episode ] travel in a starship and do many other things which are science-based fiction.


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You provocatively cite something which clearly irritates you personally, being the outrageous claim of Trekkies that the cell phone was invented thanks to Star Trek. Bringing up this one example - which is refutable by simply pointing to ] or to ] - diminishes your attempt to puncture Star Trek's scientific credentials, because you specifically ''failed'' to refute it. You merely trashed it, which is not a valid argument. It is well documented that the scientists and inventors of today have found inspiration in the fiction of the past, of which Star Trek is a part. The enthusiasm of Trekkies to promote the importance of their own in this process is perfectly understandable, and should not cause you any unease. If you don't agree with such fan statements, then good for you. I also think the importance of Star Trek in the development of late-20th century technology is overstated - the ] had many times the degree of influence.
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== You are still part of the ARCA appeal ==
I am disturbed by this statement of yours - {{cquote|Forget I even asked.I came looking for answers(I even pleaded for answers only) not discussions.And both times I got lectures.So forget I even asked since I probably won;t find the answers i seek}} - because your frustration (at being unable to engage Star Trek fans in a debate) clearly blinded you to the fact that ''you were the first to give a lecture''. If you wanted answers, you should have asked a short and constructive question instead of sprinkling your lecture with merely rhetorical questions. "Where's the science in that?" is not a question seeking information, it is a rebuke phrased as a question and will usually not encourage meanignful answers.


Once voting starts, you can't withdraw, and it started several hours before your withdrawal.
This statement was buried in your lecture: '''I'd like someone to answer what Star Trek has to do with science at all.''' I conclude here by saying, I hope you now have a good answer, and that you can live with it. ] 13:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


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:I concur. You had nearly a week to withdraw if you wanted to go to AE first - removing your name just after the first vote which happened to go the way you didn't want is gaming the system. ]<sup>TT</sup>(]) 10:18, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
::{{to|Worm That Turned}}, I didn't mean to it that way. I felt this appeal should have been a last resort and should follow other steps before appealing there, but now that you and ] pointed it out, I'll keep my name there if still required.--] (]) 15:26, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
:::I'm glad to hear that, but the time for that decision was a while ago. ]<sup>TT</sup>(]) 15:45, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
::{{to|Worm That Turned}} and that you for explaining it. This clarifies it.--] (]) 15:47, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


== ''India-Pakistan'' arbitration amendment request closed ==
It was not my intention at all to provoke any Trekkies or to trash Star Trek in any way.(The only trashing it deserves is it is exagerrating the "science" in it or better "abusing scientific terms and concepts" as Dr Micheal Wong puts it.).I only provided a long list of examples,so my point is understood better and not rebuffed as a "lecture".
True,Star Trek may have science in it but the magical elements are too significant to go unnoticed,(as I stated '''almost every episode''' and not just charlie X has it)which is why it should be classified as '''science fiction/fantasy'''.
The "unease" that I have is that people(especially gullable people) who are not too well educated in science and mathamatics will start precieving Star Trek to be reality as Trekkies always promote it to be.I believed all this much before I even stumbled accross Dr Wong's page.(Whom by the way has recieved death threats and threats of injuries from Trekkies for the things he proves).
I never said Trekkies are not allowed to promote their enthusiasm.Trekkies can call themselves ] haters for all I care.But crossing the line is where they try to impose their beliefs that Star Trek is "science" or "the future"(thus misguiding people) or that "Star Trek rocks compared to Star Wars"(That's a ] by the way).Give me a break.
Please you spelled meaningful as '''meanignful'''.So before checking others' minor spelling mistakes,please check your own.] 00:08, 1 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
(just erase my statement from the Star Trek talk page if it still "disturbs" you)Thanks.


The ] filed on 23 May 2018 (the appeal of certain arbitration enforcement actions by GoldenRing) has been closed as unsuccessful. For the Arbitration Committee, ''']''' (<small>aka</small> ]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; ]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; ]) 02:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC)


==AE==


Consider checking ]. ] (]) 05:51, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
== Reply ==


== Wahga vs Wagha issue ==
Thanks a lot for your message. You are free to edit any page, however, discussing major edits is always a good idea. As for your talk page, it is better to archive talk page contents. See ] to learn how to do that. After archiving talk page contents, you can remove old messages from your talk page.


Hello Nadir. Hope all is well. I'm having a little issue at the ] article. I thought it would be a straightforward change in name request, but it appears one person is resisting because apparently the New York Times and BBC news articles have more credibility than the official Government of Punjab's document over the spelling of Wahga. What's your take on this? How should I proceed since I'm new to Wiki. --] (]) 14:37, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Welcome back, and I hope you will have a productive time in Misplaced Pages. Thanks. --] 01:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


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Thank you very much. Just what I expected from you. Thanks again. ] 18:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these ]. Thanks, ] (]) 09:12, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


== Avoid this page, please ==


is a violation of your topic-ban. I'm not reporting you ''only'' because it seems as though you were reverting which added material while reverting : but it would be a good idea for you to avoid that page ''altogether'', and another admin could still could still block you. ] (]) 10:47, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
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== July 2018 ==
Regarding message, I'm a bit confused. I haven't posted any message to you about this. If you were referring to , note that it wasn't on your talk page, and wasn't directed to you. Thanks. --] 05:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px">]To enforce an ] decision&nbsp;and for violating a of your ban appeal by editing from alternate accounts and while logged out, you have been ''']''' from editing for a period of '''3 months'''. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions. <p>If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the ] (specifically ]) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. --><span style="font-size:97%;">{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=Please copy my appeal to the &#91;&#91;WP:AE{{!}}arbitration enforcement noticeboard&#93;&#93; or &#91;&#91;WP:AN{{!}}administrators' noticeboard&#93;&#93;. ''Your reason here OR place the reason below this template.'' &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;}}</span>. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the ] on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (]), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.&nbsp;] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 14:43, 23 July 2018 (UTC) <div class="sysop-show"><hr/><p style="line-height: 90%;"><small>'''Reminder to administrators:''' In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following ] regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" ). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."</small></p></div></div><!-- Template:uw-aeblock -->


You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at ] and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the ] may be of use.
:I'm too busy to go through the messages between Kumarnator and you, but a great way of stopping someone from messaging you is to *not respond to it*. Of course, if it is related to editing in an article, responding to it is recommended, but if you feel someone is sending you a message without any purpose, the best way is to refrain from responding to it. Thanks. --] 04:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


Thanks,<!-- Template:Arbitration CA notice --> ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 16:01, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
== you seem to be confused.... ==
::::{{to|Ivanvector}} Although I will not contest the block, I've looked through the IPs and accounts and can confidently state the vast majority are not mine. The method being used here is: Canadian based IP, overlapping edits=NadirAli. These are also not the IPs I was referring to on AN (which I shall not disclose here). The ones added indirectly by Ravi are certainly not mine. I have no recollection of editing in 2011. Infact I was inactive since 2009 and then returned in 2013 to edit. These IPs trace back to Missisagua/Brampton where there are large concentrations of Pakistani populations (and fewer in Richmond Hill where there are fewer). I can even re-direct you to areas of similar concentrations of Pakistani populations where you might find similar edits. They are not mine. When i first starting editing again as NadirAli in May 2014, I realized the IP I was using was shared and had even days earlier made edits on ''The Empire Strikes Back''. In fact the IP was already blocked for a reason I can't remember. It had overlaps with my editing arwa, but mostly had edited different topics. I posted on ANI requesting that the IP block not be extended to my account as it was shared.


But currently the more serious concern is these people are closely co-ordinating to jointly harass me, but turn by turn. It first started MBlazeLighting filing an SPI case against me in November and then turning up on CFDs on topics unrelated to his editing. He then proceeded to track my edits to undo them, as he is currently doing right now while I'm blocked on topic unrelated to him. Between these times, My Lord showed up and filed all these strange complaints against me including these SPIs and followed me. But the current concern is MBlazelightening is undoing my edits, taking advantage of the block.--] (]) 04:01, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
It seems that you are basing your "facts" on only geographic techinicalities.....For example the Assyrians came form the Arab Penisiula, but they are not Arab.....Just because some of the Indus may have sretched over pakistani land( which is rightfully indian) it doesnt mean that the indus is "home" to pakistan, it just means that the INDUS encompassed some land that many years later, in 1947, to be accurate shifted away and created some new country( pakistan). Secondally, you have mentioned that I used the word "pussy", to atleast 3 users. As usual, this was a Dr spin from you to try and make me look like some evil, stupid maniac!!! Though the people can see through you!!!Get a life, you're so pathetic!!!! ] 02:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


:Contrary to the evidence, you say  "the vast majority are not" yours, yet you admit that still the rest of the IPs are yours and thus proving the fact that you evaded your site ban, topic bans in violation of ]. Thanks for the admission. --] (]) 08:23, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
'''wow kumernator, I didn't know "the people" have ] like Superman-LOL'''
::Ravi jee, get off my talk page. There's nothing linking me to most IPs. CU discovered recent IPs which were not posted by your gang members in that page. There's nothing that indicates those accounts and IPs were mine. You pick out some IPs that overlap with my edits and cast them as mine, to try and claim I violated the site ban.--] (]) 03:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


== ARCA archived ==
==Regarding Balochistan Conflict==
You may have your opinion about the issue but thats what POV is. Misplaced Pages is not about representing POV of Balochistan people or Pakistani Govt. We need a NPOV approach for the article and what that user has done, isn't valid according to wikipedia rules. He/she may discuss changes, try to convert an article to NPOV but can't replace it with a POV essay. Misplaced Pages is not about essays.] 22:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


A clarification request in which you were involved has been archived at ]. For the Arbitration Committee, ]] 17:22, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
'''Agreed that wikipedia should stay neutral on the issue.However the fact is that dozens have been killed at the hands of the army and that's what needs to be put on wikipedia''''] 01:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali


== Someone's asking about you ==
==Moving a conversation to this page==
Please stop editing your reply on my talk archive page. Please don't post on my user talk archive page, as it doesn't become available for other users to read.


{{User|GenuineArt}} sent a bizarre email asking about my perspective on you . Just thought you should know. I posted a note to GenuineArt's talk page . --] (]) 01:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I don't know why you felt the need to come in and say anything to me about your ''warning'' against the ''corrupting forces'' on Misplaced Pages, or about how South Asians and Arabs are conflated in many Western minds, and portrayed negatively. I really don't have any concern about your issue with ''corruption'' on Misplaced Pages, I just mentioned that your words and tone seem like you are on a crusade. I referred to your rhetoric as ''nationalistic'' because you have said things about Indians and Bangladeshi editors' nationalities being an impedance to their seeing the ''truth'', or words to that effect. I don't have a problem distinguishing South Asian culture or language from Arab culture or language, and I don't have any bigotry toward South Asians (two of my very good friends are from India - one is a Gujarati Shi'ite Muslim, one is a Bengali Hindu).


==Notice of noticeboard discussion==
Before you correct me on my statements above, let me acknowledge that I probably got it all wrong on both counts. Please grant me the right to be wrong, just this once.
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== File:Indo-Iranic languages.jpg listed for discussion ==
If you want to continue conversing with me, please let's do it on your talk page. I probably won't respond to any more talk about ''corruption'' or ''nationalism'' though, because I don't find them very interesting topics, and I definitely won't respond to anything you post on my talk pages. Thanks, ] 01:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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== Site Ban ==
I wont respond to this till maybe tommorrow.Got a history assignment to finish.Due Wednesday.] 02:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali


I have just closed the discussion at ANI with the conclusion that there is sufficient consensus for a full site ban on your account.
== Response to Erielhonan ==


There was no significant discussion of possible unban conditions, but I would suggest that the ] is probably your ''only'' possible path to being unbanned, and you would probably need to go at least a full year without socking or appealing as opposed to the usual six months, given your lengthy block history. ] (]) 22:29, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
'''Allright,I'll respond to the points you have made one by one.'''
::{{to|Beeblebrox}}, I just got the message. The "community ban" votes included so many votes from rival partisan users involved in this topic area, many of them being having ''never'' edited AN before as even pointed out by ] and ], not to mention many of them being canvassed. Yet they have been counted in. As a result, how can this be in the least counted as a valid "community ban"?--] (]) 01:34, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
"Please stop editing your reply on my talk archive page.Please don't post on my talk archive page,as it doesnt become available for other readers to read."
:::Because I, as a previously uninvolved administrator, read the entire discussion and evaluated it. I don’t recall ever interacting with you and did not have any opinion myself on whether or not you should be banned, but in my role as an administrator I concluded there was sufficient support for a ban, even after disregarding some of the supporters comments.
'''For your information,if I had no problem accessing your talk page and being able to see all the previous conversations that have taken place,I really don't see why another user would have a problem in finding them.Unless you're trying to suggest they have less common sense than me.'''
:::In other words, it is a perfectly valid ban. Trying to characterize it as ilegetimate is not going to help your cause. I strongly suggest you simply walk away from Misplaced Pages for at least a year if you would ever like it to be lifted. ] (]) 03:06, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
*{{ec}} That approach isn't going to get you anywhere, Nadir Ali. While there ''was'' an unfortunate amount of partisan bickering at the site ban discussion, there was support for a site ban from a number of uninvolved and experienced users, including several administrators. Take Beeblebrox's advice. Wait at least a year before appealing, and in that time, '''do not use sockpuppets'''. It's against policy, and it will probably cause your appeal period to be reset; you're also likely to be found out very easily. There's important things in life besides Misplaced Pages; and if you find it hard to let go, confine yourself to reading and research. Remaining on the straight and narrow is the best way forward for you, and will avoid any further time sinks for the community. ] (]) 03:11, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
::{{to|Beeblebrox}} I agree with most of what you have said, but if you take out all the canvassed and partisan votes (many of them ''never'' having edited AN before), the votes come to a 50/50 grey area. This is not a "community ban", but rather a co-ordinated, organized mob style attack and has happened times before. In any case, I voluntarily stopped editing after CU verified that I was IP editing. It would have been another matter if a group of uninvolved administrators or arbitrators issued a siteban. If you cross examined each and everyone of the votes and comments yourself, you would have found it to be true. The whole act of canvassing is a violation against the spirit of the community. This has happened by the same group before in the case of Xenjao. I am not trying to "characterizing" it as illegitimate, I am stating it for what it is. How can the fate of users be handled by their direct opponents and those affiliated with them.--] (]) 04:58, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
::{{to|Vanamonde93}}, I do not know of these alleged sockpuppets of mine anymore than CU or the clerk does. I was blocked by ] following the discovery of recent IPs used by me. But I agree with what you've written. Misplaced Pages is not that important to me, I left over a month ago and do not plan on coming anytime soon. I am just worried how this lynch mobbing on AN will affect future users and how easy it has become for these mobs to misuse AN to ban opponents as opposed to more neutral judges evaluating the situation.--] (]) 05:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
:::To be clear, I'm not making any assessments of your past actions, but making a recommendation with respect to your future actions. Several users have demonstrated that the temptation to use sockpuppets after an indefinite block is high: I'm asking you to resist that temptation. ] (]) 02:46, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
{{to|NadirAli}} I have no involvement in this, but you seem to be under a misapprehension about how consensus is established on Misplaced Pages. It is not a vote count but an evaluation of the strength of the various arguments. As a very experienced Admin, I fully trust ] to evaluate the arguments and determine the resultant consensus. As others have said, best you walk away from Misplaced Pages for a year or so before attempting to get unbanned. - ] ] 07:19, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
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== Season's Greetings ==
"I don't know why you felt the need to come in and say anything about your warning against corrupting forces on wikipedia ,or about how south asians and Arabs are conflated in western minds and portrayed negatively.
'''Well ironically enough,I didn't know(and still don't know) why you felt the need to come in and say anything to me about violating the rules. Me doing that would be a loss for me,and I personally don't see how that would harm you in anyway at all.'''


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'''I'm really sorry that my tone sounded like I was on a 'crusade',just as I am sorry that anyone who is involved in anti-corruption committies and happen to share the same tone as me sound that they're on a crusade.'''
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Hello Nadir Ali, I hope all is well. All the best, ]] 11:37, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
"I referred to your rhetoric as nationlistic because you have said things about Indians and Bangladeshi editors' nationalities being an impendance to their seeing the truth,or words to that effect."
: ]] 11:49, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
'''Then by your logic,my concern about too many police officers here in Canada being white and bullying non-white teenagers(particularly black)somehow makes me a nationalist.'''
== ] of ] ==
See ] here or here.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nationalism '''No harm in maintaining your vocabulary.'''
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The article ] has been ]&#32;because of the following concern:
"I dont have a problem distinguishing South Asian culture or language from Arab culture or language,and I don't have any biogotry towards South Asians."
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Just when I was having a good time with him.But I agree it leads to nowhere and never did.If he only stopped messaging me all the time,it would have stopped a long time ago.] 15:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali


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Nadir thanx for message,my big brother name is also Nadir Ali. good to know that mother is sindhi i bet she is must be good mother ,well mother are always good,but being mother with sufism from roots is kinda awesome, u must be getting what i am trying to say.Lets do some thing good for mother Sindh.i offten watch some pages, i feel difficulty here,it is kinda new to me being here and working and still i have not checked ,what one user can do here and can not Do.
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Dear Nadir Thanx for message again.u said i called ur mother suif? no u can read i did not call her Sufi. i said as she is sindh she is having roots in sufi-ism,wel my self i am not sufi neither but i like it's idealogy ,i am myself a sunni too but as you see peoples around you(specially in sindh,big saint like sachal,Sami,Latif Sarkar),you just start thing these are right they never hurt any one.i never seen peoples fighting in name of religion(except karachi,it is not sindhi dominated area).I belive religion is relation between you and your God and i think no buddy have right to argue you becacuse it is you and him.if that makes me sufi then ok,but i pratice as sunni wahabi.
when you visited hyderabad last time? i will some more topics in indus river,i need your support becasue this time you will fight with your own peoples,beacuse as there is no water in delata of indus river,so i will add it indus river and i know many punjabi user will try to remove it as they doing in Akber Bugti page.


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We share a lot of the same views. Please see my page and visit the forum I have linked to. Its a site dedicated to making people aware and getting them to recognise the history and identity of Pak.
The Admin of the site is looking for a moderating team. If you want to, you can make that.
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Sorry. Thought I posted the link. Here it is anyway. http://www.pakhub.info/ I plan on donating to admin for a domain for it next week.
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I think you need to heremy side of the story before taking sides.Personal attacks have been launched against me by the same users who reported me along with attempting to intimidate user:Saddiqui by making threatening comments.
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They have also vandalized my comments once and have been trolling with there provokitive comments non-stop.They have also accussed me of being a "maddrassa student".If anyone's been trolling it's them.] 04:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
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Hello Nadir hw ru today
Yar ,i try to open ur site but it is not working i do not know why?can u help me in this regard .i was using it from office? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 04:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->


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Khalid Im good thanx.I will be unable to respond to you for now as I have been blocked as a punishment for violating the ] and ] rules.Once the block is lifted,I will message you and help you open the site.Please note that the government of Pakistan has blocked access to the site for political disputes with the world Sindhi institute.However there still is a way for you to access the site from Pakistan.Once my block is lifted,I will hlep you access the site.Until then see you.] 05:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
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Hey Nadir ,i opened ur site with www.ghostproxy.com ,it by pass local proxy.i do nt knw why ur site was blocked by admin here,anways,it was nice work by u on that site.ok sure will be waiting for ur response.How can help U ,in sindhiworld forum?lemme knw if i can i wll sure.hey wat is ur mailing address?


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Just email world Sindhi institute with the questions you have.I just hope it's safe as the Pak government doesnt want people visiting the site,but if you can visit the safely that's fine,just email them your questions.Thankyou.] 15:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
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Hi agin Nadir, i though u r blocked and can not replay anyways Welcome Back.

== Question ==

Hi Nadirali, I saw the discussion at ] and posted a question for you which I'll hope you will answer. Thanks a lot <b><font color="teal">]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">]</font></b></sup> 06:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

==Empire==
What would the error be? ] 21:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
*Thanks for letting me know. ] 19:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

==Re: Portals==
Hi! Portals are actually alternate ]s on wikipedia. They contain content similar to the ]. But unlike the main page, portals are devoted to a specific topic. Hence they contain pictures, articles, "Did you know"s, etc. on that topic alone. See ] for all the info about portals. Ping me if you have any further questions.--]<sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 00:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

==re: Anti-vandal programs==
Hello again! Thanks for the congratulations. (You can call me Deepu by the way {{smi|7}}) ''Reg. anti-vandal programs'' : Actually, adding the vandal sniper template to your userpage does not protect it from vandal attacks. Vandal sniper is a program that you can download to your computer. When it is run, it scans through all the ] and list out those that the program thinks might be a case of ]. It also gives you an option to revert these changes easily.

So, in short, those people who have the vandal sniper template on their user pages are only saying that they run the Vandal sniper program and will revert any vandalism immediately using it. Their userpages remain as vulnerable as any other. I think you get the idea. The template is just a graphic, and does nothing. I recommend you try out ] or the ] to understand better.--]<sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 13:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the guides.I have been able to upload the script for the anti-vandal tool to my userpage and it seems to work just fine.Thanks alot for the info! ] 01:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

== where did you lived during visit in hyderabad ==

Dear Nadir ,there are many sindhi communities in orkut ,u can join those but i do not know about other communities if you know any let me know for sure I will join it along with you.

Hope every thing is fine with you. Where did you lived in Hyderabad during your visit?

] 04:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Nadir ,i do not like MQM any shape, now these days there having flags in Larkana city can you believe this? .You know why? because they have new Slogan "we are sindhi" but who does nothing for sindh.on other side they still planning to broke her to into parts making new state "Jinnah Pora".
Yeah it is offending for sure


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Cha Hal Ahin(how are you,sindhi).


Yeah Hyderabad Cantonment is beautiful, telling you one more thing .it is expensive area too because it is having Sadder Market inside it, if you visit sadder market ,i believe you will change idea that Hyderabad cantonment is beautiful.Yeah residence area of Army officer is beautiful, it is not in Hyderabad it is every where. I mean take example of Karachi, which is Most expensive area of Karachi? "DHA" "Defense Housing Society" it is under control of army. they are also allot bangles in sadder Karachi.
Do you speak Sindhi?

Sadain Gud

] 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


Nadir why not create Wiki_Sindhi(sort of community working for sindhi pages and related topics) ,how this sounds like :P

] 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with that sindhi are weak But why? . we should look for reasons it is beacuse they are un-educated,simple in nature,] in religion,resources occupied by others,fighting with each other,killing in name of honour,lake of information .read history even Moen-jo-daro ppls did not made any weapon in there time how they make now? what i am trying to say is they are Much sufi in nature.They are divide as hindu sindhi,muslim sindhi(then Barouch(different tribes fighting for power ],],],],],],],etc inside them stil are they divided as take expample of ] ],],]) etc...,jamot ],],],],],]). How you expect to be in power with this? and read my profile i am Balouch oriented Sindhi we called as Barouch (Balouch but Sindhi)
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Hi Nadir i have post my request on Sindhi_Wikipedian ,if they would not change that Flag i will do it ,have You seen Muhajir Wikipedian. it is same like sindhi_wikipedian no change between both tags,
I will put Ajruk On that flag that is Identity of Sindhi's

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Hello Bro ,i removed Flag from sindhi wikipedian and made some editing.i will make picture here of my ajruk and upload it.but these days it is little bit hard to do.i will do it after Eid,till then Happy Eid "Eid Mubark" ,Happy New Year.
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==Hi Nadirali==
I'm not sure if you're familiar with user:Tigeroo, but he might need some help staying focused and being neutral in an article that we're editing on together called ]. I'm not entirely aware of the issues, but there has been an edit war going on that I would like to stop. Could you talk to him please? Thanks.]&nbsp;(] <small>•</small> ] <small>•</small> <span class="plainlinks"></span>) 18:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

::Sounds good. Have fun!]&nbsp;(] <small>•</small> ] <small>•</small> <span class="plainlinks"></span>) 23:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

::Thank you for your advice however if you please talk a look around at the edit's discussions and talk pages maybe you can see I am trying to be amicable. It is hard to come to agreement when the chages being inserted are blankings, removal of cited materials, unexplained etc. I could solve issues if the other party was discussing things. I have not gone to 3RR and have even not brought 3RR against the other party involved to keep things amicable. If you would like to mediate the dispute, it would be welcome.--] 06:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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Dear Nadirali, project templates are supposed to go only on talk pages. I hope that helps. Eid Mubarak and Happy New Year! ] (]) 00:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting the template off the article and on to the talk page, Nadirali. I don't think I have anything else to say about your other concerns. Regards, ] (]) 02:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Great. You and ] have similar concerns. Parallel discussions are being carried out on different pages, which is not very efficient. Let's discuss this on a single project page. Maybe at ] if you don't mind. Regards, ] (]) 03:05, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, please suggest a neutral page, where a larger number of editors can participate in the discussion. I am talking about ]'s discussion on ], and about letting the Pakistan template stay on the talk page. Thanks, ] (]) 03:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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Can you please keep an eye on these articles. These articles are being rewritten by Indians from Hindutva perspective.
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:I have rewritten ] by removing Indian propaganda. Can you pleaase review my changes and try to keep this version. I am hoping more Pakistanis contributors will pool thier efforts.
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Thanks for pointing this out. I highly appreciate that. I will take time to read it entirely before participating with my views. Thanks again. ] 20:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

== what would jesus do? ==

wasn't listed on the afd, therefore its fair game.--] 13:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

*You're not supposed to take off the tag until the vote has been passed.Removing that tag before a vote is passed is considered ].Leave the tag alone.] 16:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

:watch me!--] 13:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

LOL I think you're a little too late for that.] 14:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

== Disruption ==

You're still reverting without attempting to build consensus. Actually, you're doing it in contravention of the consensus. That is disruption, and if it continues you won't be able to continue to edit. Please stop, and make positive contributions instead. There are much, much better places to put your efforts into. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

This is not a neutral way to handle this issue.They keep reverting my changes and vandalizing the tag I place on the discussion page.] 14:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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Can you please check following page where Indian contributors have made accusation against Pakistani contributors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents
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:The page http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents
:check heading "Meatpuppetry and tag-team edit-warring" it is the middle of the page. You can also search this page.
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You are still part of the ARCA appeal

Once voting starts, you can't withdraw, and it started several hours before your withdrawal.

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I concur. You had nearly a week to withdraw if you wanted to go to AE first - removing your name just after the first vote which happened to go the way you didn't want is gaming the system. Worm(talk) 10:18, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
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I'm glad to hear that, but the time for that decision was a while ago. Worm(talk) 15:45, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
To editor Worm That Turned: and that you for explaining it. This clarifies it.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 15:47, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks, Ivanvector (/Edits) 16:01, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

To editor Ivanvector: Although I will not contest the block, I've looked through the IPs and accounts and can confidently state the vast majority are not mine. The method being used here is: Canadian based IP, overlapping edits=NadirAli. These are also not the IPs I was referring to on AN (which I shall not disclose here). The ones added indirectly by Ravi are certainly not mine. I have no recollection of editing in 2011. Infact I was inactive since 2009 and then returned in 2013 to edit. These IPs trace back to Missisagua/Brampton where there are large concentrations of Pakistani populations (and fewer in Richmond Hill where there are fewer). I can even re-direct you to areas of similar concentrations of Pakistani populations where you might find similar edits. They are not mine. When i first starting editing again as NadirAli in May 2014, I realized the IP I was using was shared and had even days earlier made edits on The Empire Strikes Back. In fact the IP was already blocked for a reason I can't remember. It had overlaps with my editing arwa, but mostly had edited different topics. I posted on ANI requesting that the IP block not be extended to my account as it was shared.

But currently the more serious concern is these people are closely co-ordinating to jointly harass me, but turn by turn. It first started MBlazeLighting filing an SPI case against me in November and then turning up on CFDs on topics unrelated to his editing. He then proceeded to track my edits to undo them, as he is currently doing right now while I'm blocked on topic unrelated to him. Between these times, My Lord showed up and filed all these strange complaints against me including these SPIs and followed me. But the current concern is MBlazelightening is undoing my edits, taking advantage of the block.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 04:01, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Contrary to the evidence, you say  "the vast majority are not" yours, yet you admit that still the rest of the IPs are yours and thus proving the fact that you evaded your site ban, topic bans in violation of WP:SOCK. Thanks for the admission. --RaviC (talk) 08:23, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Ravi jee, get off my talk page. There's nothing linking me to most IPs. CU discovered recent IPs which were not posted by your gang members in that page. There's nothing that indicates those accounts and IPs were mine. You pick out some IPs that overlap with my edits and cast them as mine, to try and claim I violated the site ban.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 03:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

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Site Ban

I have just closed the discussion at ANI with the conclusion that there is sufficient consensus for a full site ban on your account.

There was no significant discussion of possible unban conditions, but I would suggest that the standard offer is probably your only possible path to being unbanned, and you would probably need to go at least a full year without socking or appealing as opposed to the usual six months, given your lengthy block history. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:29, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

To editor Beeblebrox:, I just got the message. The "community ban" votes included so many votes from rival partisan users involved in this topic area, many of them being having never edited AN before as even pointed out by Ivanvector and RegentsPark, not to mention many of them being canvassed. Yet they have been counted in. As a result, how can this be in the least counted as a valid "community ban"?--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 01:34, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Because I, as a previously uninvolved administrator, read the entire discussion and evaluated it. I don’t recall ever interacting with you and did not have any opinion myself on whether or not you should be banned, but in my role as an administrator I concluded there was sufficient support for a ban, even after disregarding some of the supporters comments.
In other words, it is a perfectly valid ban. Trying to characterize it as ilegetimate is not going to help your cause. I strongly suggest you simply walk away from Misplaced Pages for at least a year if you would ever like it to be lifted. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:06, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict) That approach isn't going to get you anywhere, Nadir Ali. While there was an unfortunate amount of partisan bickering at the site ban discussion, there was support for a site ban from a number of uninvolved and experienced users, including several administrators. Take Beeblebrox's advice. Wait at least a year before appealing, and in that time, do not use sockpuppets. It's against policy, and it will probably cause your appeal period to be reset; you're also likely to be found out very easily. There's important things in life besides Misplaced Pages; and if you find it hard to let go, confine yourself to reading and research. Remaining on the straight and narrow is the best way forward for you, and will avoid any further time sinks for the community. Vanamonde (talk) 03:11, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
To editor Beeblebrox: I agree with most of what you have said, but if you take out all the canvassed and partisan votes (many of them never having edited AN before), the votes come to a 50/50 grey area. This is not a "community ban", but rather a co-ordinated, organized mob style attack and has happened times before. In any case, I voluntarily stopped editing after CU verified that I was IP editing. It would have been another matter if a group of uninvolved administrators or arbitrators issued a siteban. If you cross examined each and everyone of the votes and comments yourself, you would have found it to be true. The whole act of canvassing is a violation against the spirit of the community. This has happened by the same group before in the case of Xenjao. I am not trying to "characterizing" it as illegitimate, I am stating it for what it is. How can the fate of users be handled by their direct opponents and those affiliated with them.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 04:58, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
To editor Vanamonde93:, I do not know of these alleged sockpuppets of mine anymore than CU or the clerk does. I was blocked by user:Ivanvector following the discovery of recent IPs used by me. But I agree with what you've written. Misplaced Pages is not that important to me, I left over a month ago and do not plan on coming anytime soon. I am just worried how this lynch mobbing on AN will affect future users and how easy it has become for these mobs to misuse AN to ban opponents as opposed to more neutral judges evaluating the situation.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 05:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
To be clear, I'm not making any assessments of your past actions, but making a recommendation with respect to your future actions. Several users have demonstrated that the temptation to use sockpuppets after an indefinite block is high: I'm asking you to resist that temptation. Vanamonde (talk) 02:46, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

To editor NadirAli: I have no involvement in this, but you seem to be under a misapprehension about how consensus is established on Misplaced Pages. It is not a vote count but an evaluation of the strength of the various arguments. As a very experienced Admin, I fully trust Beeblebrox to evaluate the arguments and determine the resultant consensus. As others have said, best you walk away from Misplaced Pages for a year or so before attempting to get unbanned. - Nick Thorne 07:19, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

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Season's Greetings

Season's Greetings
May your Holidays and the Year that follows shine as much as this coin still does beneath the tarnish of bygone weather and long use. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello Nadir Ali, I hope all is well. All the best, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:37, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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