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When looking at the "Airlines and destinations" table in all airport articles, cities with multiple airports are typically written as ''City–Airport Name'' (e.g., Paris–Charles de Gaulle, Milan–Malpensa, Chicago–O'Hare). This makes sense. What I do not see is the three-letter airport code. If Paris is Paris–Charles de Gaulle and not Paris–CDG, why isn't this airport New York–Kennedy in the airline table? Flights are also listed as "New York–Kennedy" when the three-letter code is not used (e.g., "Los Angeles, CA, to New York–Kennedy, NY"). Thoughts? --] (]) 02:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC) When looking at the "Airlines and destinations" table in all airport articles, cities with multiple airports are typically written as ''City–Airport Name'' (e.g., Paris–Charles de Gaulle, Milan–Malpensa, Chicago–O'Hare). This makes sense. What I do not see is the three-letter airport code. If Paris is Paris–Charles de Gaulle and not Paris–CDG, why isn't this airport New York–Kennedy in the airline table? Flights are also listed as "New York–Kennedy" when the three-letter code is not used (e.g., "Los Angeles, CA, to New York–Kennedy, NY"). Thoughts? --] (]) 02:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
:Because "JFK" isn't just the three-letter code, but the common short name for the airport and for the man it's named after. People use the term in daily use. ] (]) 10:59, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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Houston Bush

Changed the shorthand name "Houston-Intercontinental" to "Houston-Bush" in the listing of destinations, because that Houston airport's official name was changed several years ago to George Bush Intercontinental Airport" and the shorter "Houston-Bush" is the most common shorthand name used now.

--- Depends on your politics. Some people still call it "Washington National" and "Houston Intercontinental". Stoneriver2 (talk) 14:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Qantas to Sydney

The continued listing of Brisbane as the Qantas destination in the destinations table is very unhelpful. Nowhere does Qantas, JFK or Brisbane Airport mention this link. The flight number of QF11/12 is to suggest it is a continuation from Sydney, which is supported by Qantas, JFK and Sydney Airport information. The page really should either list Sydney or omit the information altogether and simply have a note of the fact the flight number suggests it is a flight to Sydney but the plane usually returns to Brisbane. It is also important to note that at least once a week the plane actually does come from Sydney. Lala295 (talk) 06:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)Lala295

Per WP destinations criteria, destinations should only be included if BOTH the aircraft and flight number are the same. Even though QF operate the B74E from LAX-SYD on Tuesdays, it is different than the one operating JFK-LAX, per . While I agree something needs to be done about this soon, for the time being I have kept Brisbane in the table as psychologically speaking, same aircraft/different flight number is more seamless than same flight no. and different aircraft. Qantas does sometimes depart the LAX-SYD flight on time even if the JFK-LAX flight is delayed and arrives afterwards. --Irehdna (talk) 14:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Qantas flies from JFK to SYD now, instead of JFK - BNE. On the Qantas website, the flight from JFK - SYD (QF12) is displayed as one flight, with a stop, but still the same flight, while JFK - BNE (QF12, QF 16) is displayed as two flights, still with one stop. -- Oemvee (talk) 20:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

I think you will find that QF12 mysteriously changes aircraft type in Los Angeles. Andrewgprout (talk) 01:00, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
However, if you look at the website the JFK-SYD (OF12) makes a stop in LAX with JFK-LAX using a 787-9 Dreamliner while the LAX-SYD segment of the flight uses a Airbus A380. The same Boeing 787-9 aircraft on the JFK-LAX segment is still used on the LAX-BNE segment while LAX-MEL and LAX-SYD both uses an Airbus A380. 97.85.118.142 (talk) 04:43, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Timetables

I've reverted the addition of the timetables again, mainly as the references given are dynamic links, meaning they keep changing and will likely quickly go out of date with the content. If you can find static content that actually confirms the destinations (rather than ever-changing timetables), then I'll be more inclined to allow these to be added. Mdann52 (talk) 13:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

  • The airline booking site references do not accurately verify direct destinations from the airport. They operate as a search engine to a bunch of destinations including those accessed indirectly and do not single out direct destinations. I see @Mealer2015 has also tried the same on other airport articles. Ajf773 (talk) 20:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Removed in popular culture

I just removed the pop culture section

The New York City John F. Kennedy International Airport appears in the 2007 Dreamworks Animation film Bee Movie and also appeared in the 2013 Disney film Planes.

It's unsourced so violates WP:V, and also, these are both animations where JFK was a minor setting, not the main topic or setting of the work. epicgenius (talk) 00:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Hatnote way too long

We must trim this beast down! The body text and infobox don't even appear on the first screen on smaller monitors. It's ridiculous. We don't need to call out Laguardia and Newark specifically, we can point the reader to Aviation in the New York metropolitan area. And the more obscure stuff like a Bolivian airport that hasn't had the name in decades (and never really used it, to the point where it isn't even mentioned in that article's lead) does not need to be in the hatnote. oknazevad (talk) 00:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Photographs of Idlewild (from LOC in public domain)

The Library of Congress has a number of public domain collections that might be useful illustrating the history of the airport. In particular, the NY World-Telegram had photos that it took at the airport that (unlike UPI photos) actually would have been donated into the public domain. The Korb Collection also has architecture photos. http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=%20Airport%20Idlewild KevinCuddeback (talk) 22:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

New York–JFK vs. New York–Kennedy

When looking at the "Airlines and destinations" table in all airport articles, cities with multiple airports are typically written as City–Airport Name (e.g., Paris–Charles de Gaulle, Milan–Malpensa, Chicago–O'Hare). This makes sense. What I do not see is the three-letter airport code. If Paris is Paris–Charles de Gaulle and not Paris–CDG, why isn't this airport New York–Kennedy in the airline table? Flights are also listed as "New York–Kennedy" when the three-letter code is not used (e.g., "Los Angeles, CA, to New York–Kennedy, NY"). Thoughts? --Precision123 (talk) 02:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Because "JFK" isn't just the three-letter code, but the common short name for the airport and for the man it's named after. People use the term in daily use. oknazevad (talk) 10:59, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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