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| *In my view, that discussion intersects with Trust & Safety and the current anti-harassment RFC to such a large extent that it should either be closed by Maggie Dennis personally, or by a panel that includes her, or by an independent community member who has received her feedback prior to closing.—] <small>]/]</small> 10:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC) | *In my view, that discussion intersects with Trust & Safety and the current anti-harassment RFC to such a large extent that it should either be closed by Maggie Dennis personally, or by a panel that includes her, or by an independent community member who has received her feedback prior to closing.—] <small>]/]</small> 10:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC) | ||
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Requests for comment
Talk:Austria–North Macedonia relations#Request for Comment
(Initiated 1475 days ago on 13 December 2020) Long overdue, but probably a good idea to formally close this RfC given the subject area. The subject of the RfC was whether or not to include information about the 2020 Vienna attack in this article. --Griboski (talk) 21:06, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Cricket#Rugbyfan22's proposal
(Initiated 1366 days ago on 1 April 2021) There's been a lot of contention over the cricket notability guidelines, with large numbers of AfDs recently causing much discussion within the project and outside of the project, and the RfC period has just ended. I'm requesting a formal closure from someone uninvolved in the discussion and who hasn't been majorly involved in the discussions at WP:NSPORTS as we're keen as a project to potentially implement the proposal, or work on different changes if not implemented. Further details on the proposal can be found above the RfC. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Talk:Argentina_national_football_team_results_(2020–present)#RFC:Format_of_Table
(Initiated 1358 days ago on 10 April 2021) Will an uninvolved experienced editor please close this RFC? This seems to be a close call, and some of the editors have been contentious in the past, so that an administrative close might be a good idea. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:37, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Talk:Roderic O'Gorman#Request for Comment on subheading title wording
(Initiated 1354 days ago on 13 April 2021)
Hi. An RfC on the wording of an article heading was opened at Talk:Roderic O'Gorman on 13 April, and it has had no additional input since 9 May. Could an uninvolved admin or editor drop by and close it, please? Thanks in advance. Bastun 23:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Done. Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:07, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#Undisclosed alternate accounts
(Initiated 1352 days ago on 15 April 2021) Well-advertised on T:CENT, this RfC has important policy implications that will benefit from a formal closure. Sdrqaz (talk) 10:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- In my view, that discussion intersects with Trust & Safety and the current anti-harassment RFC to such a large extent that it should either be closed by Maggie Dennis personally, or by a panel that includes her, or by an independent community member who has received her feedback prior to closing.—S Marshall T/C 10:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- T&S has no mandate to set community policy. The board can set their own policies that override community ones, but seem to have no intention on setting policies on multiple and/or privacy accounts. That specific discussion is a community process, so any suitably experienced volunteer should feel free to close it. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 11:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Don't really agree with that: I think that the whole point of (legitimate) undisclosed alternate accounts is to avoid harassment.—S Marshall T/C 13:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Right, and various policies and proposals try to do the same. They're almost all community policies, made and enforced. This is the same; it's an issue about amending a community policy, discussed by volunteers, and should be closed by any suitable community member, the same as any other discussion. If the WMF wants to setup a Board policy on this and thinks the community's views will be helpful, they could read the discussion or the summary of the consensus reached (ie, 'the close'). ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Don't really agree with that: I think that the whole point of (legitimate) undisclosed alternate accounts is to avoid harassment.—S Marshall T/C 13:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- T&S has no mandate to set community policy. The board can set their own policies that override community ones, but seem to have no intention on setting policies on multiple and/or privacy accounts. That specific discussion is a community process, so any suitably experienced volunteer should feel free to close it. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 11:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Not done I looked at this with a view to closing it. I don't think there is any issue with closing the RfC, personally. The RfC initiator said "I've not proposed specific wording, this is more about looking for consensus on the ideas, the wordsmiths can get in there and create the appropriate wording if such a consensus is reached". However, no consensus was reached about whether changes to the status quo are in fact desired, let alone what specific changes. I actually don't think a formal closure is beneficial; users are free to start a fresh discussion in future. If you still believe a formal closure is beneficial, please clarify what it will achieve? Ncmvocalist (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Talk:Second Cold War#Term or event?
(Initiated 1349 days ago on 19 April 2021) Uninvolved editor needed please. Thanks. --George Ho (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Talk:Woman#RfC: Lead image
(Initiated 1345 days ago on 23 April 2021)
I am requesting a formal administrator close of this RfC which follows years of contentious discussions. To avoid a WP:BADNAC, an administrator close is needed when The outcome is a close call (especially where there are several valid outcomes) or likely to be controversial.
Thank you. Kolya Butternut (talk) 18:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RfC:_WikiLeaks
(Initiated 1326 days ago on 12 May 2021) Uninvolved administrator requested to close this RfC when the time for closure is due and/or the discussion is no longer active. The discussion that triggered this RfC is here, for reference. The ruling is likely to be controversial. Thank you. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 04:59, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
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| TfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 |
| MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
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Misplaced Pages:Files for discussion/2021 April 27#File:TheWire28.jpg
(Initiated 1340 days ago on 27 April 2021) * Pppery * it has begun... 02:03, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
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Other types of closing requests
Talk:Age of Empires III#Merger proposal
(Initiated 1480 days ago on 9 December 2020) Quite an old merger discussion, that could to with an uninvolved close. Thanks. Spy-cicle💥 08:38, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages talk:Short description#"Wikimedia list article"
(Initiated 1373 days ago on 26 March 2021) Note to closer: there were also two other relevant discussions, a BRFA (which was put on hold pending a closure to this discussion) and a conversation at Shortdesc helper talk (same situation there). — Goszei (talk) 23:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#Removal_of_"UK"_from_location_field_in_infoboxes
(Initiated 1358 days ago on 10 April 2021) Not a formal RFC, but this discussion attracted plenty of attention anyway. It has been open for over a month now with no new comments since the end of April. -- Calidum 18:54, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 338#Facts.Org.cn (Truth on Falun Gong)
(Initiated 1341 days ago on 26 April 2021) The discussion regarded the reliability of two related sources (as well as whether or not the sources should be blacklisted). — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Talk:List of The Great British Bake Off finalists#Redirect Candice Brown?
(Initiated 1334 days ago on 4 May 2021) The discussion went stale for almost two weeks. Uninvolved editor is needed. George Ho (talk) 05:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)