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:It takes a lot of scrolling to get through all this content can it be simplified? ] (]) 22:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:It takes a lot of scrolling to get through all this content can it be simplified? ] (]) 22:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC) |
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== "Unceded" in the lead == |
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Hi everyone, FYI as Magnolia677 pointed out, there is a discussion at the regarding the use of "unceded" in the lead section of articles about Canadian cities. I have just commented there regarding Vancouver. ] (] <nowiki>|</nowiki> ]) 21:26, 1 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:In the case of Vancouver, as in most of BC, it is uncontroversial to characterize the land as unceded. ] provides some context; provides some more. ] (]) 02:49, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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::If the entire province is "unceded", this information would be more appropriate on the provincial article, instead of added to individual articles about places in the province. ] (]) 16:31, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::It isn't the case that the entire province is unceded; more importantly, different groups have claims in different areas. Claims specific to a location should be discussed in that location's article. ] (]) 17:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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::::Why is a land claim notable in the article? ] (]) 17:46, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::I think unceded is appropriate in the lead as politicians and many local institutions make opening acknowledgements. The sources could be improved though, as the Smithsonian Magazine reference isn't "scholarly" and gives an elementary error in the first sentence. ] (]) 19:12, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::: That's true, my bad. I found the source on Google Scholar and made the hasty assumption that it was therefore scholarly. ] (] <nowiki>|</nowiki> ]) 19:59, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::Land claims are a notable current issue at the local level, especially in BC, and reflect an important aspect of local history. I've provided a better reference. ] (]) 19:53, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::There was rough consensus at Canadian Wikipedians' notice board not to include "unceded" in the lead. ] (]) 20:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::That consensus applied only to communities where the use of the term "unceded" does not reflect NPOV. In Vancouver and most of BC, it does. ] (]) 20:19, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::I disagree - I read that conversation carefully and there was a pretty even split between editors who felt it should be included in the lead and those who felt it shouldn't be. Furthermore policy isn't made by this kind of noticeboard discussion anyway. Policy is that each article cover aspects of the topic of that article with due weight. ] (] <nowiki>|</nowiki> ]) 20:21, 2 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::: '''Unceded should be left in''' because inside the municipality most Federal government media releases start with "... traditional unceded territory... " TheKevlar 00:05, 3 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::Misplaced Pages does not follow what municipalities and government agencies do. ] (]) 23:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::It is noteworthy regardless of what some Wikipedians claim. This is a question: Are we here to judge or record history? TheKevlar 20:05, 6 July 2021 (UTC) |
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== Sustainability == |
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It is time to clean up and expand this section. There is a discussion at the regarding this project. It is a multi-city effort where we will be doing the same for other major cities in Canada. TheKevlar 16:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:Sustainability is not a section expected at community articles according to ]. If you want to start doing this across Canadian communities, I suggest you start a discussion at ] and place a notice of said discussion here, at ], and at ] to catch a wider audience. Cheers, ] (]) 08:01, 8 July 2021 (UTC) |
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== BC place == |
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== BC place == |
Someone DELETE the paragraph in sports starting with "Vancouver has an adult obesity..." Obesity stats do not belong here Yahkgirl (talk) 23:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
The montage of this article -- while it may be aesthetically pleasing to some -- is far too long. This issue is especially true for mobile users, who make up more than half of our readers. The current infobox montage takes up almost the entire screen when reading on an iPhone with regular font and zoom. This causes the reader to have to scroll even further through the already long settlement infobox just to get to the text of the article.
I propose using only one image in the infobox. While this is a proposal that is unique and perhaps wouldn't suit other cities, it is evident that the first image of Vancouver's skyline, featuring the harbour in the foreground and the city's entire skyline in the background, is by far the most iconic and identifiable image of Vancouver in the current montage. The other images in the montage are quite distinctive in comparison, and would be far better served being moved to sections of the article specific to them.
Under the sports and recreation heading, the image and caption of BC place is outdated. It now has the retractable roof instead of the cloth dome which was prior to 2010. Nikolaih 18:52, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
I want to change the picture from the skyline to a beautiful collage of the city's landmarks I made. I just want to enlighten people of the landmarks of the city. Thank you for your answer Geografreak (talk) 19:39, 5 December 2021 (UTC)