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| {{ping|Nintendoswitchfan}} If you really think it's important to include forkast.news, please discuss it here first. Per many prior discussions at ], crypto outlets generally have very poor reputations for maintaining editorial oversight, disclosing conflicts, etc., and this one doesn't appear to be an exception. It's far from the worst site I've seen, but since this article is just a "fast facts" style summary of basic facts with almost no original analysis, it does a very poor job of explaining why this bit about a big number is even significant at all. | {{ping|Nintendoswitchfan}} If you really think it's important to include forkast.news, please discuss it here first. Per many prior discussions at ], crypto outlets generally have very poor reputations for maintaining editorial oversight, disclosing conflicts, etc., and this one doesn't appear to be an exception. It's far from the worst site I've seen, but since this article is just a "fast facts" style summary of basic facts with almost no original analysis, it does a very poor job of explaining why this bit about a big number is even significant at all. | ||
| Further, the site's about page includes several very poor signs, including this paragraph: | Further, the site's about page includes several very poor signs, including this paragraph: | ||
| {{tq|Forkast.News is an independent news platform open to working with companies and brands to better reach their customers by educating our audience about their products and services through our creative arm, Forkast.Studio. Our sponsors and partners are a mix of startups, established brands, and those that we helped become established brands.}} | {{tq|Forkast.News is an independent news platform open to working with companies and brands to better reach their customers by educating our audience about their products and services through our creative arm, Forkast.Studio. Our sponsors and partners are a mix of startups, established brands, and those that we helped become established brands.}} | ||
| This is basically an admission that they are producing a mix of "native advertising" and churnalism, and the site fails to distinguish between this and any actual reporting that might be produced. | This is basically an admission that they are producing a mix of "native advertising" and churnalism, and the site fails to distinguish between this and any actual reporting that might be produced. | ||
| If you want to restore this source, or site it elsewhere on Misplaced Pages, I recommend getting another opinion at ] first. ] (]) 21:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC) | If you want to restore this source, or site it elsewhere on Misplaced Pages, I recommend getting another opinion at ] first. ] (]) 21:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC) | ||
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Reliability of sources
@Nintendoswitchfan: Hello. Please cite reliable independent sources for any information that it not routine and could be seen as promotional. It is not enough for this info to be technically true, it has to be encyclopedicially significant, and the way to show this is with an independent source that explains why it's significant. This is the standard across Misplaced Pages.
Axie Infinity's Medium account hasn't been updated in over a year, and it's not clear if this is even WP:RS, but it certainly isn't independent. Using primary sources for specific features of a video game can be construed as promotional, and since Misplaced Pages is not a platform for promotion, it is always better to summarize based on independent sources. Primary sources can be used for routine information, or in some other cases, but always with caution. Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 20:19, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
@Grayfell: Hello. This is noted. I was unable to find a more reliable source than the Medium account of Axie Infinity itself for the particular statement, so I thought it would work to use that as a primary source. I have instead rephrased the line item altogether to use an independent source and disregard the launch date and instead focus on the land feature as a whole.Nintendoswitchfan (talk) 20:32, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. The only reason I did not remove the line completely was because it seemed like it might be something a reliable source would talk about. If neither of us could find a decent source, it's probably safe to discard it as trivia. We should not assume that anything in particular belongs, so we have to be willing to discard content that is unsupported. That is editing, after all.
- My recent revert re-added a copy/paste of the sentence. I will hold off on removing that to avoid H:ECs. Grayfell (talk) 20:36, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- As a compromise, I have added template:better source needed. Tech Times doesn't appear reliable, either. Several of the articles on that site are obvious advertorials in praise of specific products or services, but the site completely fails to disclose this. This outlet may need to be raised at WP:RSN if it hasn't already, but that will have to wait. Grayfell (talk) 20:46, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
forkast.news
@Nintendoswitchfan: If you really think it's important to include forkast.news, please discuss it here first. Per many prior discussions at WP:RSN, crypto outlets generally have very poor reputations for maintaining editorial oversight, disclosing conflicts, etc., and this one doesn't appear to be an exception. It's far from the worst site I've seen, but since this article is just a "fast facts" style summary of basic facts with almost no original analysis, it does a very poor job of explaining why this bit about a big number is even significant at all.
Further, the site's about page includes several very poor signs, including this paragraph:
Forkast.News is an independent news platform open to working with companies and brands to better reach their customers by educating our audience about their products and services through our creative arm, Forkast.Studio. Our sponsors and partners are a mix of startups, established brands, and those that we helped become established brands.
This is basically an admission that they are producing a mix of "native advertising" and churnalism, and the site fails to distinguish between this and any actual reporting that might be produced. If you want to restore this source, or site it elsewhere on Misplaced Pages, I recommend getting another opinion at WP:RSN first. Grayfell (talk) 21:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Removed Sky Mavis "startup" info
I removed a paragraph under the game description section that was full of fintech puff related to Sky Mavis' valuation and whatnot. If that was notable, it would be in the page for Sky Mavis. This article should remain on the topic of the video game, not on the "startup" behind it. Mewnst (talk) 02:12, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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