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	Hey man, I always ensure that I am logged in while editing, you can check the edit log & I have edited the article through my account.. Maybe its the issue where people share the IP address in question,I can assure you that I use my account to edit any article. I just have a single account named "Lord Elzai". Hope this sorts it out. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year in Advance!- LORD ELZAI		Hey man, I always ensure that I am logged in while editing, you can check the edit log & I have edited the article through my account.. Maybe its the issue where people share the IP address in question,I can assure you that I use my account to edit any article. I just have a single account named "Lord Elzai". Hope this sorts it out. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year in Advance!- LORD ELZAI

	==Asrtyon==

	You had warned for socking and with he has proven that he is socking. He is not even replying . I think indef block should be made on both accounts and the main account (Asrtyon) should be unblocked only if he promises to adhere to not just ] but also ]. ] (]) 07:13, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

	:Hi, thanks for your note. I've been keeping my eye on that one, but feel free to open a new SPI report if there's some significant change in activity. -- ] ] 15:49, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

	::Not sure how SPI will help because checkuser was already done and there is no doubt if they are not same person. See their very recent activity . ] (]) 18:45, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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Response to your suggestion on my talk page

Hey man, I always ensure that I am logged in while editing, you can check the edit log & I have edited the article through my account.. Maybe its the issue where people share the IP address in question,I can assure you that I use my account to edit any article. I just have a single account named "Lord Elzai". Hope this sorts it out. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year in Advance!- LORD ELZAI

Likely sockpuppets

Hi, regarding the Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Zdnf I strongly oppose your withholding of check user as this editor has a long history of using multiple sockpuppets so there is every chance there are unknown live sockpuppets and sleeper accounts. I would also request you discuss this checkuser request with other more experienced checkuser admins, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Atlantic306 Everything in the case is long stale; there's no data to compare to. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Ok, so the ip data from 2017 is not available ? Atlantic306 (talk) 23:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Correct. Data is only kept in the CU system for 90 days, then it disappears. It is possible to manually preserve information for future reference beyond 90 days; if you see people talking about "notes in cuwiki", that's what they're talking about. But, in this case, no such notes exist. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, perhaps there should be a change to require all info to be kept permanently either automatically or manually. I'm pretty sure that some clerks are very scrupulous about keeping notes but unfortunately they weren't involved in the 2017 case, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:53, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm totally with you about wanting better preserving of data. The 90 day expiration window is due to WMF privacy policy, driven by legal requirements. The notes in cuwiki help, but they require CUs to manually upload the data, so it doesn't happen nearly as often as one might hope. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).

Administrator changes

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Arbitration

Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.

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Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Jorg De Pelecijn

Heyo, I came across a few editors doing the same thing as each-other with similar names and when visiting their talk page I came across your message linking to this Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Jorg De Pelecijn. Just a heads up two of the accounts that I can see are active again. This time with cycling Honors and refs. The users are User:Jorg De Pelecijn and User:Dplcnjrg. Paulpat99 (talk) 10:23, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I'll take a look. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the flag.

Some IP vandal dropped this on my talk page recently, presumably thinking I would be offended or something. I was offended by some of the other things, but not this, so I've decided to keep it.

-- RoySmith (talk) 02:45, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

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Two masters

Hi Roy, this is a bit novel for me. I've blocked and tagged Biu12 as a suspected sock of ZestyLemonZ and of 2021biu. The master and sock in the latter are both stale, although there should be CU log data. You recently ran a check in the ZLZ case and didn't uncover Biu12, so I'm dubious. Could you look into it? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:36, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23 Hmmm, not sure what to say there. From the CU data alone, I'd have to say that Biu12 is just barely possible to Zesty; same very wide IP range but that's about it. I would say the same thing about how Biu12 is related to 2021biu except of course the user name similarity is pretty obvious. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Not just the name similarity, but they both edited Draft:Ellington Primary School. Seems unlikely that it's coincidence, and I assume you don't have UA information for the stale accounts. I'll remove the ZLZ tag and leave the more obvious one. Thanks for helping out.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

RoySmith Sir , Bbb23 Sir

It's very big network, little attention to here Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Planet Marathi OTT. Everyone who comes here is this Same group people. Right now one id has been active two years later Cinzia007 (talk) 09:07, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I'll keep an eye on it. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:36, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Right now Mz7 Sir Caught a small group Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/720vikas. Cinzia007 (talk) 10:25, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Sir, It's both are also same group, attention to these people too

This group has made a lot of articles

All Paid Article

Rahul Pandey- ( Original - Archive - )
Arko Pravo Mukherjee-(Original - Archive - )
Pyumori Mehta Ghosh- (Original - Archive - )
Rukmini Maitra- (Original - Archive - )
Akshay Bardapurkar - (Original - Archive - ]) Cinzia007 (talk) 14:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Cinzia007 I really do appreciate the information, but could you please file these at SPI through the normal channels? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:58, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Sir Tell me process I will make, I have just got to know about wikipedia till 50% 😁 Cinzia007 (talk) 15:03, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

On Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations, see the box where it says, "How to open an investigation". Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Okay Sir I will do that but I will take little time 😁 Cinzia007 (talk) 15:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Sir, Block this one, you have not blocked it yet. Natasshag. Article Asees Kaur ( Original - Archive - Cinzia007 (talk) 15:09, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

March 2022

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Oh, is that how that works? Good to know, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:17, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Did I do it right?

The request you made here

Thanks, RoySmith! I'll check out your entry on the CU wiki and let you know what I think... :-) ~Oshwah~ 10:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

My recent edit

Hi Roy, should I open another SPI for the next suspect, is that the best option? HighKing 15:24, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, if you could just file a new report, that would be the best. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:28, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Taking a closer look, I'm wrong about that one so no need, thanks. HighKing 15:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

We've got plenty of other cases to work on, so one less isn't going to be a problem :-) -- RoySmith (talk) 15:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Colemanhull

OK, protected that too, and blocked the /27. If any more pop up, could you file them at the SPI page? That makes it easier to process. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:55, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

That's fine, thank you. Just as the previous result was just semi-protecting Boston, wasn't sure if all the paperwork needed filling in or not. FDW777 (talk) 14:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

The big advantage of reporting it at SPI is that we then get a permanent record in the archives, which comes in handy during future investigations. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Paragraph-Based Edit Conflict Interface

It appears that about five days ago, you filed a complaint about a useless error message on an edit conflict, that is, a race condition. I encountered what was evidently the same useless message, and clicked on the same link, and was taken to the same page. The documentation says that the message is disabled for talk pages, and that another version will be available for talk pages later this year. I think that the problem is that the message is disabled for pages in talk namespaces, but not for project pages that are used as talk pages. I got the message at the Teahouse. So I agree that the only useful response is to copy what one has typed, paste it to Notepad or Wordpad, abort the edit, and try again. And, yes, you will get the stupid reminder that you are about to leave the page. So the problem is that they know that the way the race condition is handled is useless on talk pages, but it doesn't know that a project page is a talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:08, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Brad Watson, Miami

He's been active recently. 2601:583:681:8430:d5e7:c08c:d07a:573c (talk · contribs) but also see the history of Talk:Seven Seals. What I'm not sure about is whether to add some IPs to Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Brad Watson, Miami. @GeneralNotability: you've been involved also, what do you think? Doug Weller talk 16:37, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I've pinged both of you at Dennis Brown's page where he and Bish are discussing this. And in the last little while, 50.253.143.113 (talk · contribs). Doug Weller talk 17:22, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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