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John Milton, Paradise Lost (1667)"Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven".
Danny Dyer, Twitter (2012)"Can't believe it's been nearly 11 years since them slags smashed into the twin towers".
Super Hans, (2005)"People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people, Jeremy".
AJ Rimmer, (3m years from now)"The chance to march across Europe with the greatest general of all time and kill Belgians. Marvellous!"
Merry Merry
I know you'll likely simply remove this, which is obviously fine--but I wanted to stop by just to wish you a happy holiday season. All the best to you and yours, and may 2022 be better for us all. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 15:31, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
Sincerely, Misplaced Pages's the global cricketing community. Please come back at some point! 2405:6E00:B7A:3A00:84F7:D7DD:2FA6:90C5 (talk) 16:40, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
User:Lugnuts
Hello, Lugnuts,
Apparently, there are so many thousands of edits to your User page that it has to be deleted by a steward. I tried but couldn't delete the page. You might contact a steward directly if you are set on deleting it. Also, be aware that if you want to restore the page in the future, it will be equally challenging. Liz 19:40, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Sorry to see it
I'm sorry to see this. I'd hoped you'd stay and be productive, as you clearly can be, and that you'd maybe even find that the proposed restrictions might be good for you in many ways. Best to you. —valereee (talk) 20:12, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Disgrace
Just seen that ANI, what an absolute fucking disgrace, absolute shite chatted by people who never contribute to the cricket project. Your stubs are important starting points, with which many of us, myself included, have expanded to good quality B-Class articles. Knobheads everywhere. StickyWicket (talk) 21:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed. While Lugnuts might ve at sone fault here, the accusations at te ANI were ruthless. Misplaced Pages is like Twitter nowadays. Filled with a-words. Most of them probably never heard of cricket. Truly a loss for the cricket community here. Human (talk) 17:09, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks both. You do have to question some people's motives on here. Almost as much as questioning England's match "tactics" of late...
Please stop interfere in my work you again and again delete my information regarding camrean green Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 13:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Community Sanction : prohibition from creating stubs
Per this discussion, you are indefinitely banned from creating new articles that contain less than 500 words when created. This includes converting redirects. You may appeal after six months. Spartaz 09:32, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Please don't retire, I value your continued contributions. Deb (talk) 15:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Lugnuts, I saw a bit of what happened. I'm really sorry. I hope you find a way back. Take your time and see what you can do or say. Some editors were really dead-set against you; those will not carry the day, I imagine, if you were to propose how you can work within parameters suggested by that ANI discussion--not the extremes. Take care, and thank you: there are plenty of editors who appreciate much or most of what you have done here. Drmies (talk) 21:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks all. For transpancy, I've asked for clarification on 500 words vs 1500 characters. Lugnuts 18:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- For the sake of keeping responses in one place, this is the response I left,
- The term word was used twice in the proposal and rereading the discussion and noting the number of users advocating for a total ban on article creation, there was clearly no consensus that less than a total ban would fly unless substantial articles were produced. Regardless of the original meaning, the concept that gripped was a substantial article and multiple users endorsed 500 words. I don’t feel comfortable arbitrarily changing it to characters as that wasn’t the consensus of the discussion. If you want to shorten it, I think you need a fresh consensus and should open a thread at AN. Spartaz 18:53, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- I don’t personally strongly object to a change and there is internal consistency in using DYK criteria but there are already enough occasions where admins act against a clear consensus that I feel that discussion needs to be had before any change to the sanction. Given issues with your stubs, concentrating on articles that can be 500 words is actually no bad thing, and, if it were me, I’d do a fair amount of that before making that request. Spartaz 19:00, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- For the sake of keeping responses in one place, this is the response I left,
- Listen - compare your case with that of the user named in Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive984 (section 83). He's still operating under a restriction because there's a competence issue, but he keeps plugging away. You can do much better work and I sincerely hope you will stick around and do that. Deb (talk) 19:37, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Thoughts
I just want to say that I am glad that I got to know you for at least some of my time on here. I wish you the best in life, and I hope you find happiness in whatever you do. Scorpions13256 (talk) 23:51, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ooooh, I'm never happy in life! Thanks Scorps. Lugnuts 18:25, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Same. OCD sucks. Scorpions13256 (talk) 01:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Vitaï Lampada
This is the word that year by year,
While in her place the school is set,
Every one of her sons must hear,
And none that hears it dare forget.
This they all with a joyful mind
Bear through life like a torch in flame,
And falling fling to the host behind—
"Play up! play up! and play the game!"
Well played, sir! Andrew🐉(talk) 20:34, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
With Burns out for a duck
Lugnuts said "drat! bad luck"
Attempted poem, Turner Prize entry Lugnuts 18:29, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Section Heading
Definitely sorry to see what happened at ANI... I think that Misplaced Pages is changing and contributions from dinosaurs like us aren't what the project needs, but that's consensus I suppose. It is too bad there wasn't a little bit more good faith going around in that discussion though. In any case, I'm saddened, but completely support your decision... I'll be scaling back too to focus on projects that actually matter. If you want to keep working on the Olympics in a meaningful way, let me know, but in any case shoot me a Misplaced Pages email and stay in touch! Canadian Paul 22:54, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Dinosaurs, eh? In a past life, I suspect I was the poor bugger that got hit by the metorite, while the others were feasting on a fresh triceratops carcass. Lugnuts 18:33, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- As a kid, I always thought I was a T-rex in a former life. I was definitely not a humble child. Canadian Paul 04:38, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
So much good work
Hi Lugnuts. Was so sorry to hear of this. I have never been one to join in (or even notice) such discussions in the most part, and while I am not going to comment on the ANI, I would like to say just how much all of the excellent work that you have put into Wiki is appreciated by editors within various projects, and how hard it will be for us to keep it going without you. You probably won't read this now, but your support and advice has been invaluable. I really hope you reconsider after some time and come back in at least come capacity even if in a reduced level. Thanks friend. Bs1jac (talk) 21:51, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed 100% with what is mentioned above. Thank you for helping me around. Hope to see you back soon. Ankurc.17 (talk) 18:21, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks both. New year, new focus. Lugnuts 18:37, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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Shocked
I am deeply saddened to see an editor of this high reputation has left the project so untimely. Really unexpected and disappointing. zoglophie 16:57, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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{{Dis}}
Hallo, I see you created this redirect back in January, and that you've used it: AWB doesn't know about it (nor does the documentation page at {{Disambiguation}}), and as a result AWB suggests edits like this. I've left at note at ], but if you know how to get AWB fixed to recognise it, please do whatever you can. Thanks. PamD 09:58, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- @PamD: - sorry, I don't know the inner workings of AWB! Lugnuts 18:43, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Someone else has now raised it as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T298389, so we'll see how that goes. PamD 12:02, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Happy new year
Wishing you a happy new year (two days early)! Hope to see you back on the project soon. Spiderone 19:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Ah, shit
I saw what happened at ANI. Hope you're OK, and having a splendid festive season away from here. You know I've never been a fan of one/two sentence stubs sourced to databases, but I always considered you a net positive, and I'll be sorry if you choose not to contribute any more. Best wishes, and a happy new year when it comes around. Girth Summit (blether) 19:45, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Girth - yes, Christmas was a blast, thanks! And thanks for the kind words. Hope you are well and all the best for 2022. Lugnuts 18:45, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Glad to hear it - mine was fun, but all the driving was a bit of a drag - the old Dumfries and Galloway, Aberdeenshire, Yorkshire triangle if we want to see both sets of parents. Still, it's easier than when I lived in London... Girth Summit (blether) 20:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your articles
Thank you for your extensive article creation! I noticed your articles are visited almost 3 million times a month. Nemo 19:53, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Nemo! Lugnuts 18:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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Ajshul 20:19, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Disambiguator
Hi, hope you are doing well. Do you think Mohammad Hasnain (cricketer, born 1975) should be renamed to Mohammad Hasnain (Karachi cricketer). I believe place of birth is more useful than disambiguating with date of birth. Also, most people search biographies by their places not by their date of birth. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:57, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @TheBirdsShedTears: unfortunately Lugnuts has been driven off this site by jobsworths. I would agree that disambiguating by place of birth would be better, even better would be the team played for, which just so happens to also be Karachi. StickyWicket (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @TheBirdsShedTears: - I think this has been sorted. Agree with the Karachi dab. Let me know if you need anything else. Ta. Lugnuts 18:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- I too agree with the Karachi dab. I had no idea that this dispute was never officially resolved. Scorpions13256 (talk) 01:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- I disagree- he has played for multiple teams, not just Karachi teams. Therefore, putting one of those teams as the disambiguator seems incorrect to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:19, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- I too agree with the Karachi dab. I had no idea that this dispute was never officially resolved. Scorpions13256 (talk) 01:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello
Hope you are doing well. Should i submit a technical request or i need to seek assistance from a page mover? User talk:FOARP#Request move TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:07, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, probably best to log it under technical requests at WP:RM. Thanks. Lugnuts 09:09, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your advise. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:15, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Welcome Back!!
Happy New Year to you and I'm very Happy to have you back. (•‿•) Kirubar (talk) 10:11, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Kirubar! Happy New Year to you, too. Just seen that 12 players for the Brisbane Heat have all got COVID. Wow. Lugnuts 10:13, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Really nasty! Despite having very strict border restrictions and long quarantine in the world, these things happening. Already Match 27 was postponed. BCCI have UAE. What will CA do? Kirubar (talk) 10:17, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not a lot they can do. I guess if teams can't play matches, then they can go down the route of average points per game, like the ECB did last summer in England. Lugnuts 10:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Good to see you back! - Have a Happy new year JW 1961 10:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Have a good 2022 too (too many 2s...) Lugnuts 10:15, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
I came here to say something similar etc... Blue Square Thing (talk) 23:10, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks BST! Am I just intime for the IPL auction. Don't want to miss that... Lugnuts 08:11, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm trying to avoid finding out when it is... Thanks for moving that Otago chap btw - I forgot that you could do that Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:02, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
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You've got mail!
Hello, Lugnuts. Please check your email; you've got mail!Message added 11:46, 6 January 2022 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.
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Chuffed
I just wanted to stop by to say I am very pleased you haven't abandoned this madhouse to the rest of us degenerate denizens! Cheers, and Happy Friday. Dumuzid (talk) 14:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Dumuzid! Lugnuts 14:44, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Welcome back and Happy New Year
Glad to see you back. Felt the same way before in the past. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 15:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Rubbish! Hehe, Rubbish. Lugnuts 15:49, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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FOARP (talk) 16:36, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Welcome back Lugnuts
Welcome back Lugnuts. I'm glad you're back and I hope you had a good Christmas / New Year break! Chrisclear (talk) 13:06, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Chris! Yes, I had a good one thanks - hope you did too. All the best for 2022. Lugnuts 13:08, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
You Are Back
I guess the race to put in the edits begins again... :D :D Ankurc.17 (talk) 08:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Why?? You know what I am talking about... If it has to do with International page.. I waited for few hours before adding there.. Ankurc.17 (talk) 07:05, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- OK - I wont update the grounds list(s) now. Thanks. Lugnuts 07:07, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Do note that i have kept my end of our deal.. I wait for few hours before putting in any update on International page.
- OK - I wont update the grounds list(s) now. Thanks. Lugnuts 07:07, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Why?? You know what I am talking about... If it has to do with International page.. I waited for few hours before adding there.. Ankurc.17 (talk) 07:05, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
2025 ICC Champions Trophy
So, fun fact: in this edit, you reverted an editor who for YEARS has been guilty of massive NOTWEBHOST violations, writing up talk pages for their IP range with cricket tournament stuff. I'll leave one undeleted, for your reading pleasure: User talk:39.40.209.27. I've blocked them, I've blocked them before; I don't know if they're writing up imaginary stuff or not, but I am not surprised to see their fandom and zeal find a way into article space also. Take care, Drmies (talk) 16:50, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. As of right now, it's not quite imaginary, but my gut feels it's unlikely. The Champions Trophy seems like the least important international cricket tournament in the calendar, with no-one really missing it if it went for good. Add to that the defending champions are Pakistan, and they are defending it in their own back yard (again, as of right now), I'm sure India simply can't wait to send their team over the border to play. Fanboys and cricket articles. Whatever next? Take care too! Lugnuts 17:52, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- OK--but what is this? Because that's what was in the 50 or so user talk pages that I deleted. Drmies (talk) 19:25, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm, now that is interesting. It rings bells of someone who was using their userpage/talkpage to create fake sports tournaments. If I recall, they had maybe one or two edits in the main article space, but literally thousands of edits to their user/talk page. Got to be the same guy. Lugnuts 19:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- When I saw one of those edits it rang a bell: I had blocked that range before. May well have been. If you see it, let me know plz. Hey, happy new year. Drmies (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm, now that is interesting. It rings bells of someone who was using their userpage/talkpage to create fake sports tournaments. If I recall, they had maybe one or two edits in the main article space, but literally thousands of edits to their user/talk page. Got to be the same guy. Lugnuts 19:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Will do - and a happy New Year to you too! Lugnuts 19:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Quite a while ago, but... SN54129 20:05, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- There's a ton of that--I've seen them for soccer too. But this one is very specific: cricket, from Pakistan, mostly in user space. Cricket--who even understand that? I remember listening to the BBC World Service, and they'd give the scores, and I still wouldn't know who won. It's as inscrutable as those Wordle things people are posting on Facebook--but with a break for tea, of course. Drmies (talk) 00:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- Quite a while ago, but... SN54129 20:05, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Will do - and a happy New Year to you too! Lugnuts 19:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yep, def. recall tennis tournaments in this style, and fairly recent too. Tennis. What is that? Hitting a ball with a stick? Mercy. Sometimes Drmies, there is no winner, even after five days of play. Well, that's not quite true, as the real winner was, of course, cricket. And please don't ridicule the tea break, it's an intrinsic part of the game, with the ICC recently updating their rules for the shortest format ("an optional drinks break of two minutes and thirty seconds may be taken at the mid-point of each innings subject to agreement between Members at the start of each series"). Rules iz rules. Lugnuts 08:52, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Charles Matteson (rower) for deletion
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Welcome back (albeit a bit late)
Hey Lugnuts, good to see you've unretired, welcome back. A week late from me I but only just saw lol. CreativeNorth (talk) 12:01, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Northy! Hope you are well too. Lugnuts 12:02, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Virat Kohli
Hey Lugnuts, hope you are fine and wishing you a very happy new year. Can you improve Virat Kohli or give me some suggestions so that I can remove that "multiple issues" template... RIDHVAN SHARMA (talk) 11:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks, hope you are good too and a happy new year as well. The problem with Kohli's article is that it's so big and seems to cover lots of minutiae. As a starting point, I'd look at this section and look to trim some of the unimportant bits. For example, there's a line about him getting a 50% match fine (ref #120) - that was from something that happened 10+ years ago. Is that needed today? Lugnuts 12:07, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
But that match fine was because of that "middle finger incident". I think that incident is a major event in Kohli's career.. What are your thoughts? RIDHVAN SHARMA (talk) 03:52, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmmm, doesn't ring any bells with me, but if you think it's worth mentioning, I wont remove it. Some good work so far - nice one! Maybe drop a note at WT:CRIC to get others to have a quick look, even if they only tackle one section. Thanks for your work. Lugnuts 08:35, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
I have dropped a note at WT:CRIC. Thanks :) RIDHVAN SHARMA (talk) 11:12, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Cooper Connolly
You can't restore a speedy delete tag that's been declined. You should know better.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:22, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: - "You should know better"? Awesome attitude. Get off your high horse. I don't recall a speedy tag I've added being removed in recent memory, so maybe you could WP:AGF next time. Lugnuts 17:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
hey lugnuts!
i just want to say thanks for making a Misplaced Pages page (or editing it) for my mothers uncle Thomas (Thomas Hewitt)!!!
He passed away a couple years ago and it was nice to see his own wiki page :)
thanks man! 84.121.162.254 (talk) 21:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi Lugnuts
I want to inform you that someone else is using my I'd , those edits done in the New Zealand cricket team in Pakistan in 2021–22 was done by someone else using my I'd so can you look after this issue that no one using my name edits any page .Thank You and take care. 115.96.132.175 (talk) 10:13, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Legends League Cricket 2022
Hi Lugnuts , Are you interested in Legends League Cricket Tournanent 2022? Vikas265 (talk) 09:11, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Please make a page on this tournament
- Hi! I'm not the biggest fan of T20 franchise leagues at the best of times, and I'm not sure what the match status in this tournament would be. I'm sure it would pass WP:GNG. So sorry, I wont be involved with this one. Maybe ask at WT:CRIC to see if anyone is interested. Thanks. Lugnuts 09:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Legends League Cricket 2022 is a 10-day tournament where we will see three teams playing with each other in the T20 format. A number of retired global cricketing icons will be participating in the tournament.
- It is a 10-day tournament that will be held at the Oman Cricket Academy Ground in Muscat, Oman.
- Yuvraj Singh, Virender Sehwag, Harbhajan Singh, Irfan Pathan, etc. will be seen playing for the India Maharajas.
- The likes of Shoaib Akhtar, Shahid Afridi, Sanath Jayasuriya, Chaminda Vaas, etc. will be playing for the Asia Lions in the competition.
- A World Giants squad will also be participating which will see players like Daren Sammy, Daniel Vettori, Brett Lee, Jonty Rhodes, Kevin Pietersen, etc in action.
- The Legends League Cricket kicks off on January 20 in Oman.
- The final of the tournament will be held on January 29.
I tried and asked but didn't get any response at WP:GNG and WT:CRIC Vikas265 (talk) 11:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
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ODI Matches played by India
Hey, I'm in dilemma whether India has played 997 or 1000 ODIs. Cricinfo states that 1st Paarl ODI yesterday was India's 997th ODI. But when i made a page in Marathi Misplaced Pages listing all ODIs played by India in serial numbers then I found out that yesterday's match was India's 1000th ODI. Ironically, the list that i have made has Cricinfo source. Either Cricinfo has missing something or I have made mistake in counting. Aditya tamhankar (talk), 20th January 2022, 10:59 AM (IST)
- Hi. Cricinfo has 997 as well. Maybe you've included some that were abandoned without a toss taking place? There would be lots of coverage about them playing their 1,000th match, and the first team to reach that milestone, not least from the ICC. Think back to when England became the first team to play 1,000 Test matches! Lugnuts 07:26, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, I found the flaw. My mistake in listing the serial numbers. I jumped 3 numbers from 533 to direct 537.. 🤣🤣🤣 Aditya tamhankar (talk), 20th January 2022, 13:08 (IST)
Sri Lankan Cricket team in India 2022-23
Hey Lugnuts, can you make a page or add this down to ICC Cricket World Cup Super League or International cricket in 2022-23 , this is true the Srilankan team are scheduled to tour India for five One Day Internationals from December 2022- January 2023 so can you please create it it is not there 115.96.135.136 (talk) 05:48, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Oscar submissions templates color
Hi, I thought you might be interested in this: User talk:Ftrebien#International Oscar Submissions > Template talk:Table cell templates § Color change in "Nominated". Jmj713 (talk) 14:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks for this. I noticed them making loads of changes to the colour format - I'll take a look at some point. Lugnuts 18:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Marcel Chennaux for deletion
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Nomination of Arnolds Krūkliņš for deletion
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Nomination of Gösta Grandin for deletion
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Contesting redirects
Hi there. While not explicitly stated, my interpretation would be that in most cases contesting and reverting redirects comes under the umbrella of "converting redirects into articles". As such, I would hope to see expansion and addition of better sources, rather than what happened here and here, when contesting redirects of articles such as these. Best, wjemather 13:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- It would be, say creating Joe Bloggs (cricketer) as a redirect to a list/club, and then coming back to convert that to an article. Thanks. Lugnuts 13:51, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly. However, some (me included) would not see the scope as being that narrow. Personally, I would not want to see significant numbers of reverts like the two examples above (particularly the latter). Best, wjemather 14:13, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Contesting a speedy redirect is not "creating an article". It's up to the person redirecting it to demonstrate that the redirect is better than an article, and contesting/reverting someone is different to creating a new article. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:58, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- You are describing a similar but different scenario. It usually doesn't work out well for editors who push the boundaries of community sanctions; given what is in place here and the reasons behind them, it would be advisable to take
"converting redirects into articles"
as being broadly construed, which would include contesting redirects without addressing the lack of substantial content and sourcing. wjemather 19:05, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- You are describing a similar but different scenario. It usually doesn't work out well for editors who push the boundaries of community sanctions; given what is in place here and the reasons behind them, it would be advisable to take
- Contesting a speedy redirect is not "creating an article". It's up to the person redirecting it to demonstrate that the redirect is better than an article, and contesting/reverting someone is different to creating a new article. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:58, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly. However, some (me included) would not see the scope as being that narrow. Personally, I would not want to see significant numbers of reverts like the two examples above (particularly the latter). Best, wjemather 14:13, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- The key phrase is "... creating new articles... " These were not, under any description, new. Lugnuts 19:07, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- It is, of course, for you to decide how you approach these things. Best, wjemather 19:11, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- In my opinion reverting a redirect to restore a long standing article is permissible but the aspersions allegations against other editors bet stop now, or I’m going to start dishing out blocks for PAs. If you think someone is proxying then either open a thread about it with credible evidence or shut up. Throwing aspersions is not an alternative response. Spartaz 21:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Understood. Lugnuts 21:02, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- In my opinion reverting a redirect to restore a long standing article is permissible but the aspersions allegations against other editors bet stop now, or I’m going to start dishing out blocks for PAs. If you think someone is proxying then either open a thread about it with credible evidence or shut up. Throwing aspersions is not an alternative response. Spartaz 21:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- It is, of course, for you to decide how you approach these things. Best, wjemather 19:11, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- The key phrase is "... creating new articles... " These were not, under any description, new. Lugnuts 19:07, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Please take a moment to update your signature
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- (talk page watcher) Brilliant! :D SN54129 14:35, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- This change is still needed. Please take a moment to help your fellow editors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:59, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- I really fail to understand why you are willing to take the time to revert my fix to your signature, but you are unwilling to take less than a minute to actually update your signature to remove deprecated font tags. Whatever POINT you are trying to make has been made by now, and this behavior is becoming disruptive. A team of hard-working gnomes have cleared every single instance of deprecated font, tt, center, and strike tags from Template space, and your outdated signature is the only one that regularly causes the tag count to go from zero to non-zero. You are making work for us, which is at the very least inconsiderate. Please update your signature, and be careful to avoid violating WP:3RR. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:23, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- This change is still needed. Please take a moment to help your fellow editors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:59, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Brilliant! :D SN54129 14:35, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is another polite request to take 60 seconds to update your signature. It will help save work for gnomes and bots. Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- "You are making work for us" - Seems a pointless task to be fixing in the first place! Thanks. Lugnuts 19:28, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Your opinion is noted. Please update your signature. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Your request is also noted. Thanks. Lugnuts 19:34, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Your opinion is noted. Please update your signature. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- "You are making work for us" - Seems a pointless task to be fixing in the first place! Thanks. Lugnuts 19:28, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Now that has to be the best example of irony for a long time. Lugnuts 19:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Friedrich Prehn for deletion
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D.C. Rice
Hello Lugnuts. Hope you are fine. Should D.C. Rice be nominated for deletion? RIDHVAN SHARMA (talk) 06:08, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi. No. Thanks. Lugnuts 07:28, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Gymnastics
I’ve noticed that several articles you’ve written have said that gymnasts have competed in 6 events, but they haven’t. There are 6 events in women’s gymnastics competed separately at the Olympics, but for someone to compete in all six, they have to qualify to each final. Most gymnasts do not make each final. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afheather (talk • contribs) 09:12, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
So apparently you've created 100s of articles that have this same mistake. After 1956, the individual apparatuses were competed separately. This means that the vast majority of atheletes competing in the Olympics from 1960 onward would not compete in all of the event finals. You need to fix this. Doing an event in qualifications does not mean that they competed in the event finals. There are 6 events in women's gymnastics and 8 in men's gymnastics. It is incredibly rare for a gymnast to make all finals, let alone numerous gymnasts at the same games. I would recommend using the pages for these finals as a guide to determining who competed in these finals. Afheather (talk) 12:57, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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Question.
Hi. Thanks for your good work. I don't think this edit, without explanatory edit summary btw, was appropriate however. It is common at wp where there is an article on name x for a location, and all searches for "x" go to that location rather than a disambiguation page, to add a see also where there is an individual whose surname is "x." Yet you reverted here, without explanatory edit summary. I would urge you to reconsider and revisit. Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bozek,_Yeni%C5%9Fehir&diff=1067447123&oldid=1067415990 --2603:7000:2143:8500:30CD:F863:CA5C:68FC (talk) 19:19, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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Hi
Come on, let's get cracking on improving these stubs. Deb (talk) 14:26, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Deb. Yes, that's my plan! Thanks. Lugnuts 14:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Ignore this one, I've managed to find coverage. BilledMammal (talk) 06:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Hernán Williams
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- Hey mate, just having a clear-up and expansion of Argentine cricketers, noticed this guy doesn't meet NCRIC anymore, hope you don't mind my PROD! StickyWicket (talk) 09:31, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- @AssociateAffiliate: - morning. Yes, no probs. Just looking at his CI bio, and he did play in a List A match in as part of the Division 2 tournament in 2007. Don't know if there's more about him somewhere! Lugnuts 09:34, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Lugnuts I've removed the PROD for him, didn't even check CI my bad! I have checked Lucas Paterlini who didn't play in any LA matches, so have PRODed him. Only 5 more Argentine cricketers to do, then that's another nationality done! StickyWicket (talk) 09:40, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- All Argentine cricketers now done. When the PROD's expire (unopposed I hope) that will make 67 notable players. Joining Ireland (588), Kenya (116) and Malta (1) as being a completed nationality. I think ther are others, but need to go through them! StickyWicket (talk) 15:16, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Lugnuts I've removed the PROD for him, didn't even check CI my bad! I have checked Lucas Paterlini who didn't play in any LA matches, so have PRODed him. Only 5 more Argentine cricketers to do, then that's another nationality done! StickyWicket (talk) 09:40, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- @AssociateAffiliate: - morning. Yes, no probs. Just looking at his CI bio, and he did play in a List A match in as part of the Division 2 tournament in 2007. Don't know if there's more about him somewhere! Lugnuts 09:34, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, didn't know there was that many notable cricketers for Ireland! Nice work. Lugnuts 15:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Cheers! I was mildly surprised myself, and give it a season or two we'll have the 600 up. Even more surprising is that I think there will be around 300 notable American cricketers. Had a look at Bahraini cricketers earlier, noticed all but two in the category now fail NCRIC. Just a heads up! Also I've noticed our mutual friend has been redirecting New Zealand cricketers, which was essentially a completed nationality. StickyWicket (talk) 19:41, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, didn't know there was that many notable cricketers for Ireland! Nice work. Lugnuts 15:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Do you mind if I redirect any of these I come across? Perhaps compile a list I can copy over? StickyWicket (talk) 23:43, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Nope - that's fine. Thanks! Lugnuts 07:41, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cool! I've only redirected Naeem Bardai (WCL non-LA appearances), left some more recent T20I cricketers alone as they had made nearly 20 appearances each (I'm happy with +10 for one of the better associate nations). Wondering about Irfan Afridi through. An interesting one. He never played a T20I or a List A match in the World Cup Challenge League, which was surprising given his recentism. Doesn't seem to have played since he was banned from bowling though. What do you think? A GNG pass, or redirect to 2018 ICC World Cricket League Division Four? StickyWicket (talk) 00:05, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Also Uganda done! 58 notable cricketers (57 depending on the above). StickyWicket (talk) 00:06, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cool! I've only redirected Naeem Bardai (WCL non-LA appearances), left some more recent T20I cricketers alone as they had made nearly 20 appearances each (I'm happy with +10 for one of the better associate nations). Wondering about Irfan Afridi through. An interesting one. He never played a T20I or a List A match in the World Cup Challenge League, which was surprising given his recentism. Doesn't seem to have played since he was banned from bowling though. What do you think? A GNG pass, or redirect to 2018 ICC World Cricket League Division Four? StickyWicket (talk) 00:05, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Oops
Oops, I reverted your edits on your userpage. I'm sorry. Severestorm28 01:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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Olympic archive
Thank you very much for adding my grandfather to the archives. It means more to the family than you can know. 2601:600:9B7F:1C50:A5FC:C6C8:E470:179E (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Wong Chi-Keung
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- Hi Lugnuts - Page curation sent this here, I know you didn't create this article about a Hong Kong actor, someone is hijacking a redirect you made Josey Wales 18:11, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Joseywales1961: - no worries. I've restored the redirect. Looks like the hijack-ee is writing about themselves. You might find WP:ARTHI handy too! Lugnuts 18:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, (another one for my arsenal of warning tags LOL) Josey Wales 18:28, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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- And this is not a revenge AfD and/or continued harrasement by you because...? Lugnuts 14:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Wow.
I am shocked at the shear amount of edits you have made to wikipedia, it is extraordinary.
Can you teach me?
K.V --Keanu Venter (talk) 18:09, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
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- And this is not a revenge AfD and/or continued harrasement by you because...? Lugnuts 09:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Reverted bot
Hi, why did you revert my bot here? Please add {{ping|Qwerfjkl}}
on reply ― Qwerfjkltalk 10:40, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- WP:COSMETICBOT. Lugnuts 10:53, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- How is this edit cosmetic? Capitalising 'football' changes the short description, which can be viewed from different places (search, {{Annotated link}} etc.) as detailed (probably) on Misplaced Pages:Short description. ― Qwerfjkltalk 16:31, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Regarding article Mukhtiar Singh
Mr Lugnuts, i am son of Wrestler Mukhtiar Singh and i have much more information regarding Mukhtiar Singh with refrences. I request you not to whipe my editing in your edits.I hope you understand my concern. Thank you Balterian (talk) 19:08, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Virat Kohli career summary graphs
Hey Lugnuts. Hope you are fine. Are those graphs in Virat Kohli's career summary really necessary? RIDHVAN SHARMA (talk) 03:24, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. I don't see the point of them, but they are used on other cricketers' bios, so who knows. Lugnuts 08:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
So then I won't be removing them as they are used on other cricketers' bios too. RIDHVAN SHARMA (talk) 02:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Irmintraut Schneider
Just dropping by to tell you that I did do a WP:BEFORE on this one, so you don't get left feeling like this is some kind of one-two attack by me and the editor whose redirect you reverted (I noticed it independently and did checks for sources before checking the article history and noticing the revert that had happened in the last hour.) -- asilvering (talk) 18:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Asilvering! They may well be non-notable, but the sheer number of bad reverts done in the past hour thows any doubt of WP:BEFORE being done. Lugnuts
Communication
Hi Lugnuts,
Apologies for posting here as I realize that you don't want to engage with me, but I believe this is an important issue and I would prefer to avoid adding a new section to the current discussion regarding you at WP:ANI.
This is regarding your recent reverts and refusal to discuss at Kyohei Ushio, where you claimed that they were a national champion while forgetting to include the source that supported this; in cases like this, where an editor raises a reasonable concern with an edit you made, you need to discuss that concern, or failing that accept the editor reverting your change.
In general, I believe this explanatory supplement is worth reading.
Finally, I will note that in deference to your desire to avoid communication, I will avoid doing so as much as possible; exceptions will include discussing edits you make that relate to prior edits that I made, and required notifications - although if you request that I stop sending notifications such as those for AFD's, I will do so. BilledMammal (talk) 13:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Further restriction
Good afternoon, per this discussion a community restriction has passed to the effect that you are Regardless of the editing method (i.e. manual, semi-automatic, or automatic; from any account), Lugnuts is indefinitely prohibited from making cosmetic changes to wikicode that have no effect on the rendered page'
There was further discussion around a ban from AFD but there was no consensus to enact this. Nevertheless there was strong sentiment that your behaviour was unacceptable and You should be on notice that further disruption at AFD can be dealt with by blocks without needing a community sanction to be imposed. Spartaz 16:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Also, no editing on the vernal equinox, but only if the full moon is waning and the beer you are drinking is less than 7° plato. Canadian Paul 06:46, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'll make a note in my diary! I'd correct the two errors in the OP's post, but that might not have any effect on the rendered page. Lugnuts 09:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Lugnuts. I'm glad the latest "investigation" is over and you're still with us. I like being a WikiGnome from time to time so, if you come across any batches of articles that need some work doing behind the scenes, let me know and I'll take care of them for you. I assume I'm still allowed to have no impact on the rendered page, ha! All the best and keep up the good work. No Great Shaker (talk) 10:14, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'll make a note in my diary! I'd correct the two errors in the OP's post, but that might not have any effect on the rendered page. Lugnuts 09:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cheers, Shakes. If someone with more time on their hands wishes to trawl though four to five hundred of my edits per day to see if I slip up, then be my guest! After all, that's what's really important. Cool, will drop you a note if some mass changes need to be done. And I hope the US-centric Wordle from yesterday didn't have you throwing you computer through the window.... :D Lugnuts 10:19, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I had the U, M and R and figured it was going American. I got HUMOR on the fifth go, I think. It's back to GB today. Have you tried Nerdle, the arithmetic alternative? No Great Shaker (talk) 10:31, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cheers, Shakes. If someone with more time on their hands wishes to trawl though four to five hundred of my edits per day to see if I slip up, then be my guest! After all, that's what's really important. Cool, will drop you a note if some mass changes need to be done. And I hope the US-centric Wordle from yesterday didn't have you throwing you computer through the window.... :D Lugnuts 10:19, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think it was fifth time lucky for me too. Not herd of Nerdle before now, so will check it out. Ha, just tried the link and the one day I'm not working from home, the site is blocked! Lugnuts 10:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Ranji Trophy 2022
Earlier CricInfo said about two phases which would have been started by tomorrow (10 February). But on the next article Ajinkya Rahane, Cheteshwar Pujara picked in Ranji Trophy squads; Hardik Pandya opts out they said that the first phase will be started on 16 February. Another source, Ranji Trophy 2022 will begin on February 17: BCCI saying about the training quarantine and all. Can you sort out among these and fix the main page? Then I will follow it in the Group pages. Thanks. :-) Kirubar (talk) 05:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Kirubar: - Looks like the 17th is the start date from what I can see. Nothing in the upcoming fixtures on the BCCI's site (yet), but they're usually the last to update! Lugnuts 09:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Mohit Sharma (Delhi cricketer) for deletion
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IPL sections for non-Indian Players
Hey!! Hope you are doing well. The 2022 IPL auction just started and I was wondering if we should create IPL sections for non-Indian players, such as Pat Cummins or Trent Boult. Let me know what you think! Oh, and also, the 2022 IPL Auction page, which would make the most sense to create after the auction is over. Let me know! Raps19 (talk) 06:59, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- I happened upon this by chance. No. Please don't. In almost every circumstance this is unnecessary from the POV of anyone from anywhere else in the world. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:11, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Agree with no, and they probably shouldn't be there for Indian players either. Just list it in a normal section with all the other non-international cricket tournaments that the person plays. But of course, the IPL fandom/breakaway WikiProject have to want to do everything differently..... Joseph2302 (talk) 08:37, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hey Raps - all well here, thanks. Per what BST and J2302 said - there's no need to have this. Lugnuts 09:39, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Revenge PROD due to the AfD at Marcel Rewenig. Lugnuts 18:07, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- No, these are not revenge PROD, you are clearly assuming bad faith. These are very clear examples of you not doing the basic job of looking for sources before creating articles. It's the exact same kind of behaviour you have been sanctioned for before, and I'm doing you a favour by proposing these for deletion so people who actually want to bother looking for sources and write proper articles have an indication that this should be done and not a misleading database-entry created by the usual culprit. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 18:09, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- once a prod is removed, it can't be re-added + Mis-use of Rollback tools. Lugnuts 18:13, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Revenge PROD due to the AfD at Marcel Rewenig. Lugnuts 18:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Revenge PROD due to the AfD at Marcel Rewenig. Lugnuts 18:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Revenge PROD due to the AfD at Marcel Rewenig. Lugnuts 18:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Revenge PROD due to the AfD at Marcel Rewenig. Lugnuts 18:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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- And this is not a revenge AfD following the Marcel Rewenig because...? 18:15, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
I think...
...we might have gotten all of them. Nearly. Whack-a-mole for the next month and half then... Have fun. Blue Square Thing (talk) 21:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you once again for your work in this area. And all the infobox tidy-up stuff you do. Lugnuts 21:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think we're winning you know. And that is a fine thing. Mind you, no doubt this is canvassing or something... ;-) And thank you for everything you do as well. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:45, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you - my pleasure. Lugnuts 05:44, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Danish player articles
You don't speak or read Danish do you?? I was looking at those articles of those Danish players at AfD. My gut is that you're right to create those stubs, I've noticed each player was at a club, when those clubs were top at that period and winning honours. I am hella sure there are more sources to be found because of that, don't let these wiki-bullies wear you down. I've expanded a little on what you've created, it's just finding the right sources to put on those articles that is killing them. Govvy (talk) 11:26, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Govvy: - Sadly, I don't speak or read a word of Danish. The best I did was spend a day there in 2012! I was simply going through a list of international footballers with no articles, per the notability that exists (or will that be "existed") at the time. Thank you for your kind words and help in any expansion work you've done. Much appreciated. Lugnuts 11:31, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Godflesh - Christbait Rising
From Streetcleaner:
Don't hold me back/This is my own hell
or
Don't hold me back/This is my hotel
You be the judge... (from about 48 seconds in) Lugnuts 18:11, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- I've always read Streetcleaner as an extended metaphor concept album about the frustrations of mundane jobs, such as managing a hotel, removing the pulp in juice manufacture, and, of course, cleaning streets. Inspired observation, @Lugnuts:! Yawnling (talk) 16:47, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hey! Apparently your signature uses obsolete font tags causing linter errors. I'd suggest remedying this issue whenever you're able to. ― Blaze WolfBlaze Wolf#6545 15:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, since you and I seem to edit in some of the same spaces, I'm getting a lot of notices of the bot fixing your old signature (which I'm fine with), however I noticed that you haven't fixed it yet which means I'll keep getting updates. I personally would really appreciate if you could fix your signature. For reference, the fix according to the bot fix is
<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>
. Gonnym (talk) 15:21, 21 February 2022 (UTC)- For a second I thought you were talking about me and I was really confused because my old signature didn't have that many problems. ― Blaze WolfBlaze Wolf#6545 15:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'll look in to it. Thanks. Lugnuts 15:28, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- You still have not fixed your signature. Why exactly is that? ― Blaze WolfBlaze Wolf#6545 13:29, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed implies something is broken, but it looks fine to me. As I said, I'll look into it. Thanks. Lugnuts 16:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Technically speaking it is broken as it's causing lint errors because it uses obsolete font tags. ― Blaze WolfBlaze Wolf#6545 16:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed implies something is broken, but it looks fine to me. As I said, I'll look into it. Thanks. Lugnuts 16:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Matthew Spoors
He is Dual citizen. Playing for National team isn't a joke. How can foreigner play for some other country without being citizen. Aarogya1234 (talk) 10:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Through their parents or grandparents nationality, for example. Lugnuts 10:52, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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See ,,, and which are very likely to be viewed as canvassing by the community. If you're notifying editors who you think may be interested in improving an article, I'm curious why you would link the AfD instead of the article itself. You've been warned about this before and you would be well advised to stop. –dlthewave ☎ 19:16, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- WP:APPNOTE - "Editors known for expertise in the field". Now get off my back. Lugnuts 05:40, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Louis Napoléon Murat
As you know, I have been going through some older Olympic equestrians. Lots of interesting people and families which we surprisingly seem to have very sparse coverage of on WP. However, because nobility are very fond of everyone giving everyone the same name, it can be (very) difficult to be sure you have the right person sometimes. On that note, this discussion may be of interest. Best, wjemather 15:21, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks - I'll take a look. Lugnuts 15:31, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Looky here
- ] - could this be helpful? Deb (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. Yes it could. Thanks Deb! Lugnuts 17:12, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
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Trophy Name Announced
Please add the trophy Name for PAKvsAUS... It is Benaud Qadir Trophy....!!! MaazRajput123 (talk) 08:27, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Done - thanks for the info! Lugnuts 08:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
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Yamileth Solorzano
Hey Lugnuts, would it hurt any if you moved Yamileth Solorzano to Yamileth Solórzano as her external link shows? Come on... Best, --Discographer (talk) 23:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Discographer: - done! Lugnuts 09:29, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Lugnuts! Best, --Discographer (talk) 10:10, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Help
Hi @Lugnuts:, Can you tell me the appropriate article title for T20I tri nation series? For example: 2022 India T20I Tri–Nation series. Is this is a appropriate article title. Fade258 (talk) 14:13, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. It would depend on a) the host of the series and b) the year it takes place in. We've got pretty much all them covered to date, either on the main international tour page or the associate tour page. Do you have an example of one that could be missing, or mis-named? Thanks. Lugnuts 14:29, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Lugnuts, That T20I tri nation series will be happened in Nepal (Host country) in 28 March to 4 April 2022. Fade258 (talk) 15:12, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- The page already exists here. Thanks. Lugnuts 15:25, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for remind me. Fade258 (talk) 15:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Lugnuts, Please without feeling frustrated with me. Please tell me Can I nominate the article for deletion under G7 criteria where that particular article was created by another user. Fade258 (talk) 15:44, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Short answer - no. G7 only applies if you're the only editor to the page. Why would you want this to be deleted? Lugnuts 15:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- No, I don't want to delete the page. I ask you only for knowledge. Fade258 (talk) 15:50, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Short answer - no. G7 only applies if you're the only editor to the page. Why would you want this to be deleted? Lugnuts 15:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Phew! Yes, G7 only really applies if you created the page, and then you want it deleting, with no-one else making any major changes. Lugnuts 15:51, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think it so. Recently, This {{2022 Indian Premier League points table}} template has been tagged under CSD G7 where as this template wasn't created by nominator. Please have a look. Fade258 (talk) 15:54, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- It'll probably be declined by an admin for deletion. Best contact those involved as to why it was created and tagged for deletion. Lugnuts 16:43, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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Your user page
Hi Lugnuts! I hope you're doing well! I was going through some logs, and I saw that your user page has been torn up a number of times by vandals and trolls. I also noticed that it had no protection at all. I went ahead and fixed that for you. ;-) If you don't want this protection applied and would like it removed, let me know and I'll be happy to do that for you. I just figured I'd help you out and let you know about it. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~ 07:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: - I'm very well thanks - hope you are too. Many thanks for doing this - I can't think of a valid reason why anyone would want to edit my userpage, so I'm more than happy for the protection. I knew paying the extra for the upgrade to the WP Platinum Package would pay off! Thank you. Lugnuts 07:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- No problem! HA! The WP Platinum is a good choice. Make sure you take advantage of the free ice cream included! ;-) ~Oshwah~ 15:54, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: - I'm very well thanks - hope you are too. Many thanks for doing this - I can't think of a valid reason why anyone would want to edit my userpage, so I'm more than happy for the protection. I knew paying the extra for the upgrade to the WP Platinum Package would pay off! Thank you. Lugnuts 07:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
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Rishabh Pant Edit
Hi @Lugnuts: thank you for your comments on the Rishabh Pant page for the edit I made, just starting out here so it was very useful. Just looking at the number of articles you have created and edited for cricket in general its amazing! Hopefully can collaborate with you on future articles. Anchor62 (talk) 12:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Anchor! Yes, if you can use a match report/press release rather than the direct stats link, that would be best. Lugnuts 12:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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AFD
As you know, the deletionists have stepped up their game. Have you ever tried using NewspaperArchive or Newspapers.com to save any of your articles? I have saved at least 3 articles from deletion this way. Scorpions13256 (talk) 21:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Scorps - this is the next thing I was going to look at on WP. Lugnuts 08:20, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Could be worse, you could have deletionists who create shit like this, but complain about anything that hasn't been sourced for a decade or more. Ouch. Lugnuts 18:57, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
What!!!!
You have said it was stat 4 yr ago. I think you don't know about cricket, if ICC named him no 1 all-rounder mean, it has to be some reason, the reason must be that he proved himself from his batting and bowling, it mean that he can bat and bowl. And from your perspective he changed his role from an all-rounder to only a bowler. It is not possible a person who ranked in all-rounder was, is or will be an all-rounder . This type of vandalism is not accepted Ripomobo11 (talk) 12:39, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Your talkpage shows you don't seem to bother with reliable sources, my liege. Lugnuts 12:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
?? First of all give reason Ripomobo11 (talk) 08:55, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- If you insist: Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Ripomobo11 Lugnuts 08:57, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
First please answer the question you not consider him an all-rounder and why Ripomobo11 (talk) 10:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
You are exploiting by not answering their questions which is not good? Ripomobo11 (talk) 11:24, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Their ( new editors like me) Ripomobo11 (talk) 11:25, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Lugnuts. Hope you're well. I see we have another common interest at the moment. I've had two of them at the Sharma article arguing about whether he's an outstanding player or not. And that's after I got indefinite protection on it only the other day!! All the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:27, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- All is well here, thanks Shakes! Hope you're good too. One thing's for sure: it's an interesting set of edits across multiple pages....! Lugnuts 13:38, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Lugnuts. Hope you're well. I see we have another common interest at the moment. I've had two of them at the Sharma article arguing about whether he's an outstanding player or not. And that's after I got indefinite protection on it only the other day!! All the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:27, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Virgil Ioan for deletion
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- Lambert, who swears he's not a deletionist, continues with his deletions. Lugnuts 19:55, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
One to think about
Hello again, Lugnuts. When I visited your page earlier, I noticed you're still being plagued with AfD notices so I've followed some of them and commented. This one really annoyed me. I think a certain person who "first joined" the site in 2019, soon after me, is rather obsessive about raising AfDs, especially on articles created by you. This rang a bell and I remembered someone being sanctioned a year or so back for flooding the AfD lists every day. I couldn't for a while remember who it was but, after a lot of digging, I find it was User:Störm, whose name I vaguely recall, probably because of the umlaut.
So, I pulled this out of the talk page history and, having looked a little further, it appears that what Störm was doing is the same as this other person is doing now. I may be way off target but do you think they could be the same? Looking at their earliest activity in 2019, it strikes me as suspicious that they could raise two AfDs in their first 25 edits and display complete ease and familiarity with the process in doing so, even knowing which deletion-related discussions to invoke. They might have no connection with Störm, but I'm prepared to bet there's a connection with someone. I'll happily take it to SPI if you think there's a case. Anyway, enjoy the rest of the weekend. No Great Shaker (talk) 22:30, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Your alert msg
Thanks for the alert, Lugnuts. We'll see what happens. No Great Shaker (talk) 16:23, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- And thank you for taking time to do it. Thanks again. Lugnuts 16:24, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- I'll take it to a replay at the other venue (except we never seem to do replays any more!). Will let you know. All the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 21:11, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help and time with this. If you are to take it further, please ensure you've got a ton of solid evidence to avoid the case falling down! Thanks again. Lugnuts 21:43, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, what's going on?! Two Test series going on at the same time, each played two matches, with all of them drawn! Any American TPS about - yep, we've had twenty days of cricket across four matches, with no winners. Well, apart from cricket being the winner, of course... Lugnuts 21:52, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Lambert's last 400 AfDs. "I am not a deletionist!" Lugnuts 13:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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Gösta Grandin
Hi! There was explicit consensus against a redirect here. If someone else decides to create it, that's fine, but I do not think it should be you given your COI with respect to these stubs. Note, I only tagged and did not delete so another admin may disagree. This is my opinion though and I'd hesitate against creating these en masse since I see @RandomCanadian has similarly voiced concerns. Star Mississippi 14:47, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's the fastest you've replied to any query I've seen - amazing that! Obviously Random C will voice their concerns, as they support deletion... Lugnuts 15:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- as I mentioned on my Talk, I'm pretty sure we are in different time zones which would lead to lags between our edits. No comment on the rest as I'm not familiar with RandomCanadian's edits beyond them occasionally crossing my watch list. Star Mississippi 15:53, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Well it's more your inability to answer a direct question, regardless of what timezone you are in. Lugnuts 15:56, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- FWIW, there is no question in your preceding comment (unless the first sentence is some form of rhetorical question, but you didn't punctuate it as so). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think that's the broken reply tool @RandomCanadian. @Lugnuts' comment is likely a follow up to a conversation on my Talk. Lugnuts, you're welcome to your assessment of course. I believe I always answered as fully as I was able. Happy to agree to disagree. Star Mississippi 16:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- FWIW, there is no question in your preceding comment (unless the first sentence is some form of rhetorical question, but you didn't punctuate it as so). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Well it's more your inability to answer a direct question, regardless of what timezone you are in. Lugnuts 15:56, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- How many redirects about non-notables do we usually have? In the same way that being a sportsperson does not give a free pass for an article, it doesn't give a free pass for a redirect. WP:R#DELETE also has "10. If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.": if you are arguing that there is some glimmer of a possibility that these might be notable, and given that the target article contains, indeed, little if any information on the subject, then it would make more sense to have a red link to encourage article creation. And if they are not-notable, and given Misplaced Pages is not a database (a "summary-only description") or a mirror of databases, well then I've already explained that. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- as I mentioned on my Talk, I'm pretty sure we are in different time zones which would lead to lags between our edits. No comment on the rest as I'm not familiar with RandomCanadian's edits beyond them occasionally crossing my watch list. Star Mississippi 15:53, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Elmer Raguse
I am the grandson of Elmer Raguse and admittedly new to editing on Misplaced Pages. I have tried to add content to his page and Lugnuts keeps deleting it. Am I doing something wrong? Craigraguse (talk) 14:56, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Craigraguse: - hi and welcome to WP. I assume you are refering to this edit. Everything you add MUST be verified with reliable sources. Do you have an online source to back up what you added to the page? Also, if you are related/connected to the subject, please also see WP:COI. Thanks. Lugnuts 15:03, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Esha Rohit / Oza
Hi there, hope you are doing well. I noticed that Cricinfo are now using Esha Oza instead of Esha Rohit again as the short form name of this UAE Women's player. Not sure if it's worth redirecting (again) as I am sure in the last tournament they had it as Rohit (they have changed everywhere to Oza, for now). Bs1jac (talk) 16:31, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Bs1jac: - all good here, thanks. Hope you are well too. Thanks for spotting this. Looking at the sources in the article, as well as comparing Google results, I believe that Esha Oza is correct and have done the move. Thanks again! Lugnuts 17:15, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Olympics
Hello, Lugnuts. I've begun a deletion sorting page for articles about the Olympics which are nominated at AfD. Hope you find it useful. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:23, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Cheers - thanks for doing this! Lugnuts 13:24, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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Women's world cup
Before reverting , check Page no 24 in https://resources.pulse.icc-cricket.com/ICC/document/2022/03/08/57dab826-cf74-4251-bc3f-e1d9b237fcb3/WCWC-2022-Playing-Conditions.pdf
Also, check time of Final in https://www.cricketworldcup.com/matches 42774 (talk) 05:35, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- The playing conditions state the top of group go to Semi-final 1, 2nd place to Semi-final 2, IE Aus and SA. India haven't reached the semi-finals yet... Lugnuts 05:40, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- India haven't reached semi-finals yet, but can qualify after last group match. Neither ICC or ESPNCricinfo have confirmed that AUS will play Semi-final 1, so it is early to update semi-finals now. 42774 (talk) 05:43, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- India is a red-herring at the moment. The Playing Conditions, which you've kindly linked to, show SF1 as top vs 4th (IE Aus vs TBC) and SF2 as 2nd vs 3rd (IE SA vs TBC). Thanks. Lugnuts 05:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- The lowest Australia can finish is second and a win (or even a washout) against Bangladesh will lock in top spot, but they will have to wait until Sunday March 27 to find out where and when they will play their semi-final.
- The World Cup playing conditions dictate that India – should they qualify – feature in the second day-night semi-final at Christchurch's Hagley Oval, regardless of where they finish inside the top four.
- (from https://www.cricket.com.au/news/womens-world-cup-cwc22-run-home-semi-final-race-australia-south-africa-england-india-west-indies/2022-03-23)
- 42774 (talk) 05:56, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- India is a red-herring at the moment. The Playing Conditions, which you've kindly linked to, show SF1 as top vs 4th (IE Aus vs TBC) and SF2 as 2nd vs 3rd (IE SA vs TBC). Thanks. Lugnuts 05:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's great - but it doesn't matter right now for the placements of Aus and SA. Lugnuts 05:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Giuseppe Fago for deletion
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March 2022
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Giuseppe Fago. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.
I've gone ahead and removed the first sentence of this. If you feel that there's misconduct, please take it to ANI instead of commenting about it in deletion discussions. –dlthewave ☎ 02:33, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Dlthewave, since you see yourself as an unofficial talk page police officer, your failure to address this must be seen as a dereliction of duty. You were aware of Lambert's conduct at the ANI, which in no way concerned Lugnuts, and yet you did nothing when Lambert made that insulting comment. No doubt if Lugnuts had referred to Lambert or one of your other pals as a net negative, you'd have been there tut-tutting and removing it. Lugnuts politely asked Lambert to remove the offending message and was met with silence, an effective refusal. In the end, Lambert had to be told by Black Kite to remove the comment.
- Also, your intervention at the Fago AfD has made a nonsense of subsequent posts, completely losing their context. That is another reason for making a polite request if you want someone to change or delete a previous post. Removing a post without asking first is the antithesis of politeness – it is downright rude. Obviously, as Black Kite had to do with Lambert, a sysop can step in if the polite request is refused.
- Lugnuts, sorry for intervening here but after what happened at my talk page yesterday, I think I should help anyone else who has had this same problem of wanton interference. No Great Shaker (talk) 05:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Lugnuts, could you please remove the revenge AfD accusation at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Giuseppe Fago? –dlthewave ☎ 05:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- See, easy to be polite isn't it? Pity that someone has to stand up to you first. No Great Shaker (talk) 05:31, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- It is! I've removed the offending word for BilledMammal. Lugnuts 09:10, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant DtW. Easy to get confused... Lugnuts 09:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! –dlthewave ☎ 11:55, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant DtW. Easy to get confused... Lugnuts 09:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- It is! I've removed the offending word for BilledMammal. Lugnuts 09:10, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
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. Spartaz 15:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- I warned you before about casting aspertions and attacking the motives of other editors. You failed to immediately redact when requested and left the personal attack here. If I have to block you again for this it will be for a significantly longer period and if ots aggravated there will be no time limit. Understood? Spartaz 15:38, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Spartaz: - Yes. Apologies, I've not been online for most of the day. While I did retract the comment at AfD, I completly forgot about it here. It's now removed. Is that OK for an unblock on the proviso that if there are any further issues from now on it goes to an indef, no questions asked? Also, what is "ots aggravated"? I don't know what you mean by ots. Typo? Acronym? Thanks. Lugnuts 18:30, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- One day for like the fourth block for personal attacks is pretty darn lenient. It's such a short block I don't see any reason for you to appeal, just do better in the future. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Will do. Or in context, four times across 15 years and 1.5million edits. Lugnuts 06:55, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- One day for like the fourth block for personal attacks is pretty darn lenient. It's such a short block I don't see any reason for you to appeal, just do better in the future. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with Beeblebrox that you should be grateful its only 31 hours. Frankly if you are spraying so many aspertions around you can't keep track if them then you should be using that time reflect and improve. Ots is a typo. It was supposed to be its. I.e. if your next offence is aggrevated then it will be straight to indef. Spartaz 18:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- OK, fine. Also - "I warned you before about casting aspertions and attacking the motives of other editors" - Do you have a diff for that? Thanks. Lugnuts 19:05, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- On this very page in the section Contesting Redirects. You responded, "understood". Spartaz 19:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- OK, fine. Also - "I warned you before about casting aspertions and attacking the motives of other editors" - Do you have a diff for that? Thanks. Lugnuts 19:05, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- THanks. Hopefully you'll apply the same standards to those making personal attacks against me, when they've been warned not to do so. Lugnuts 06:55, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Seriously?? Is that the sum reflection of your conclusions after this block. I had hoped for more meaningful selfreflectiom. Just picking up your allegations of socking mentioned above, It is casting aspersions to accuse someone of being a sock while refusing to pursue the allegation. Asking questions is fine but then there is a point where you either shut up about it or do something. Its not permitted to keep repeating the allegation as a truth without any action. Spartaz 19:19, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- "while refusing to pursue the allegation" - no, if I get the necessary evidence, then I'll persue it - that's a very different thing. "I had hoped for more meaningful selfreflectiom" - well, as I've said I hope you apply the same standards to those making personal attacks against me. I guess we should both lower our hopes of each other. Lugnuts 19:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Seriously?? Is that the sum reflection of your conclusions after this block. I had hoped for more meaningful selfreflectiom. Just picking up your allegations of socking mentioned above, It is casting aspersions to accuse someone of being a sock while refusing to pursue the allegation. Asking questions is fine but then there is a point where you either shut up about it or do something. Its not permitted to keep repeating the allegation as a truth without any action. Spartaz 19:19, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- THanks. Hopefully you'll apply the same standards to those making personal attacks against me, when they've been warned not to do so. Lugnuts 06:55, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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IPL Commentary Panel
I added commentary panel because it was also mentioned in the page 2022 Pakistan Super League. But IPL commentary panel was removed.
- I'm not Lugnuts (but I assume they don't mind me replying here). I started a discussion about this at Talk:2022 Indian Premier League#Commentary panel. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:22, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Regarding camrean green
Stop deleting my information regarding camrean green you again and again delete my information Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 13:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Read your talkpage: User_talk:Jaspreetsingh6#March_2022. Lugnuts 13:14, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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User not block notice
You have been blocked for a period of 1 second for making terrible puns on ANI. Stifle (talk) 09:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Stifle - Harsh, but fair. Only right you hoover up the bad guys. Lugnuts 09:04, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Outlaws of Sonora
Hello, Lugnuts. Hope you are okay and thanks for your message. I think I've got this plot confused with another film (can't remember title) which has a doctor being kidnapped and then turning the tables on the outlaws. This one's on YouTube so I'll watch it later and see what happens. I've seen it once before but it was years ago and I think something else happened with the doctor. It's a case of everything merging into one, d'oh! Like hotels – I only remember them if they're like Fawlty Towers, ha! Anyway, glad to see you're back again. All the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 09:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Shakes! All good here, thanks - hope you're well too. Despite being prolific in creating many missing articles on Westerns, it's a genre I don't really care for. Once you've seen one Western, you've seen them all, right?! Haha, yes I like your hotels analogy. I once stayed in one in Copenhagen, were the bathroom was smaller than a toilet on an airplane. I turned on a tap in the sink, to find it also turned the shower on... Lugnuts 09:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ha, ha! You sound like my missus. She says Westerns are the Marmite of the cinema and all horses with a gunfight at the end! That hotel in Copenhagen isn't the only one like that. I remember one somewhere in Germany many years ago where the shower was part of a fitted wardrobe and I could only just squeeze into it. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- I've found hotels in London to have some of the worst service and rooms in any location I've ever stayed. However, Eastern Europe seem to go above and beyond with their customer service. I was about to go back to Poland when this pesky pandemic started. Lugnuts 16:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ha, ha! You sound like my missus. She says Westerns are the Marmite of the cinema and all horses with a gunfight at the end! That hotel in Copenhagen isn't the only one like that. I remember one somewhere in Germany many years ago where the shower was part of a fitted wardrobe and I could only just squeeze into it. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Not using edit summaries
There's surely a template for this somewhere, and I'd really be inclined to be lazy and use it, but in the interest of expediency: you got the message, right? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Get back to me when edit summaries are mandatory. Thanks. Lugnuts 16:05, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi sorry to butt in here, but I was also under the impression that edit summaries weren't necessary? Obama gaming (talk) 21:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Obama gaming: They're not strictly necessary, but it's considered a pleasant thing to do (see Help:Edit summary), especially when you're reverting an edit (as that implies you are disagreeing with that edit: we all know that Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project, and there can't be much collaboration - in the hopes of reaching a new compromise or understanding the existing one - if no reason is given). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:50, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Again - "Get back to me when edit summaries are mandatory". Maybe you can start an RfC on making that so. Good luck! Lugnuts 06:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Again, "it's not mandatory" is not an excuse for anything. And you haven't bothered providing a reason for those edits even outside of edit summaries, so you're not exactly very convincing. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:02, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Again - "Get back to me when edit summaries are mandatory". Give it a rest, son. Lugnuts 12:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Again, "it's not mandatory" is not an excuse for anything. And you haven't bothered providing a reason for those edits even outside of edit summaries, so you're not exactly very convincing. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:02, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Again - "Get back to me when edit summaries are mandatory". Maybe you can start an RfC on making that so. Good luck! Lugnuts 06:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Obama gaming: They're not strictly necessary, but it's considered a pleasant thing to do (see Help:Edit summary), especially when you're reverting an edit (as that implies you are disagreeing with that edit: we all know that Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project, and there can't be much collaboration - in the hopes of reaching a new compromise or understanding the existing one - if no reason is given). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:50, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) This looks to me like a case of WP:HARRASS and that is never (quote) a pleasant thing to do
, nor is anything ever (quote) an excuse
for it. There is certainly a WP:POINT being made for no good reason. While edit summaries can sometimes be helpful, 99% of the time they are a waste of space because they say nothing when there is nothing to be said. I nearly always write one myself out of ingrained habit because, back in my IP days, a sysop asked me to write one each time and I believed, mistakenly, that it was mandatory. It isn't and, unless it will actually help the reader, why bother? Most of my input is copyediting and I guess the edit summaries I write most often are ce
and clean up
. But what do they actually achieve? If I wrote nothing and someone looked at the diff, they would immediately see a copyedit of corrections, revisions, etc. If I added a massive amount of new info which had not previously been mentioned, an edit summary such as created new section about whatever
might be useful but, again, the diff would show that a whole new section had been created. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:43, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yep, they're trying their best to WP:BAIT me and they don't want to WP:DROPTHESTICK either. Lugnuts 13:59, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Lugnuts reverted an edit I made, and hasn't provided any reason why (not even now). Coming to a talk page to request clarifications is not WP:HARASS under any definition of that. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:53, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Nam players
Hi. A couple of players made their T20 and List A debuts in this series: . Would you mind updating the existing articles of some of the players? Thanks. Human (talk) 09:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi! Oooh, thanks for the reminder - I'd forgotten all about that. Yes, will do. Lugnuts 09:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Those (with articles) have been updated. Thanks! Lugnuts 14:41, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Quinton de kock
I did vandalism at Quinton de Kock, stop me if you can cause I love vandalism .Zzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is foolZzuzzz is fool Cricket Lover 007 (talk) 16:04, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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Create Article list a debut first class debut
Hello Lugnuts I am living in Bangladesh I want crete article about Bangladeshi cricketer who debut list a or first class cricket on 2021–22 Dhaka Premier Division Cricket League I have some list of players whose debut recently list a cricket 5 plus match. now I am create 2 player article there are debut list a cricket 1 SM Meherob 2 Ashiqur Zaman can I create more please check this article and give me a permission can create more??
Tanvirnahid565 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:07, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Tanvirnahid565: - Neither of these two players meet the notability requirements for cricketers, and they are likely to be deleted, unless there's other coverage on each of them above and beyond playing in the tournament. Please do not create further articles, unless they meet the notabilty requirements. Thanks. Lugnuts 14:11, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Abdullah Al Mamun please check this article he is also debut only list a cricket. but this article are not delated Tanvirnahid565 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:51, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Abdullah Al Mamun (cricketer, born 1990) please check also this article there are same as my creating article this player only debut list a cricket. Tanvirnahid565 (talk) 14:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Check Article
Hello Lugnuts, Please check this article Abdullah Al Mamun (cricketer, born 1990) this player only debut list A Cricket and he is notable on Misplaced Pages and me cerate a new article like him Husna Habib there are play same list A cricket on Bangladesh there are play same match on list a cricket Please check it. Thank you Tanvirnahid565 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:36, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- You created an article without even consulting further. That other one was creating before the WP:NCRIC happened. Human (talk) 16:13, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
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Zimbabwe tours
Details are in for Namibia and Afghanistan tours of Zimbabwe. Bs1jac (talk) 14:50, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Lugnuts 14:51, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Pakistan Junior League?
Hey Lugnuts, does this under-19 league seem worthy of an article? Thanks. CreativeNorth (talk) 15:24, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi! The tournament may generate enough coverage to pass WP:GNG, but I personally wouldn't bother with U19 leagues myself. Lugnuts 16:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
AfD
Hello, Lugnuts. Looks like you haven't been told about this one. Hope you're enjoying Easter. NGS 22:33, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- Cheers! I've asked that specific user not to bother me, and I'd pick it up from my watchlist. Thanks for the note. Lugnuts 07:47, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
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I Have a question on Misplaced Pages notability Cricketrs
Hello Lugnuts, I have questions about cricketer notable on Misplaced Pages. I am interested to cerate article about Bangladeshi cricketer. Jakir Hossain this cricketer player only one first class cricket match. He debut only one first class cricket. but he is notable on Misplaced Pages. Can I cerate article about cricketer like that? Arifulislam564 (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
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New articles & Google search
Dear Lugnuts:
I recently posted four articles on Wiki for consideration, all literary works by James M. Cain: Three of a Kind (novella collection), Pastorale (short story), The Baby in the Icebox and Career in C Major.
These are my first new article contributions. Why don't they appear on my Google search, as other Wiki Articles do? Confused and ignorant.--CerroFerro (talk) 18:10, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. Probably has to do with how long it takes Google to catch-up with new articles on WP. Maybe someone at WP:VPT can explain a bit better/in more detail. Thanks. Lugnuts 18:13, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- CerroFerro new articles don't appear on Google search for 90 days, or until a new page patroller has marked them as reviewed. Until that point, new articles have a "no index" thing on them, so search engines like Google won't pick them up. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Mystery solved! Thanks Lugnuts 19:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- CerroFerro new articles don't appear on Google search for 90 days, or until a new page patroller has marked them as reviewed. Until that point, new articles have a "no index" thing on them, so search engines like Google won't pick them up. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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Please tell me why you reverted my edit on that article please! Answer Saha86830 (talk) 13:27, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Lack of any sources. Lugnuts 13:28, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Ok thank you but if you watched that tournament then you know that what i have wrote is correct. But i have not found any source so please help me too find some sources
Sir create my article
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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. Spartaz 20:39, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- I already warned you about throwing aspersions in AFDs but this was more of the same Spartaz 20:42, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- Lugnuts, I was the one who made the nomination. Please direct your anger at me, not him. Scorpions13256 (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have to wonder what is expected to be different next week, considering this at least the fifth time this user has been blocked for the same type of behavior. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:58, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- I blocked him a day last time and this is the next escalation. If a week off doesn't curb his behaviour then we can look at a further escalation. Spartaz 21:03, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- These disputes about athletes and notability have had everyone on edge for weeks now. I'm not condoning casting aspersions but it's the same group of people coming back to AfD after AfD, discussing the same issues, tensions are high all around. Liz 05:58, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I would absolutely agree, and can imagine that it must be very frustrating when the same sorts of candidates are brought to AfD by editors with some experience in the field when there is either an obvious alternative to deletion or where there are clearly sources that can be found. None of the cricketer articles which have been nominated recently, for example, have been deleted. In the case that precipitated this ban, sources were provided by Lugnuts which suggested that there were clear sources available - and an ATD was presented that is entirely appropriate.
- And there have been a lot of AfD notices recently. I note that the general sports RfC proposal which was accepted was clear that "There should also be some type of grandfathering so that if passed, there is not a sudden rush for AFD" - although in the enthusiasm to change the SNGs this element of it seems to have been forgotten as far as I can tell. I don't pay enough attention to the Olympics stuff to know if that was the case with the separate discussions that led to the removal of the SNG for Olympians or whether it included any suggestion of ATDs. But maybe there should be a presumption that an ATD should at least be explored - there are thousands of articles which are now clearly vulnerable to deletion as a result. And there have been a lot of AfDs which, in some cases at least, seem a little hasty at times. Blue Square Thing (talk) 06:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- These disputes about athletes and notability have had everyone on edge for weeks now. I'm not condoning casting aspersions but it's the same group of people coming back to AfD after AfD, discussing the same issues, tensions are high all around. Liz 05:58, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I love waking up each morning to see endless AfD notifications, now that it's open season to delete all sportspeople, along with users like Gay Fan 7 constantly socking and making horrific personal attacks. But lets focus on the real important stuff, eh? Maybe Spartaz would also like to block others who accuse Lambert of not doing any WP:BEFORE work, as I'm not alone in this line of thinking. And maybe explain why a part-time admin, who is itching to go for the block button, isn't making WP:PUNITIVE blocks. It clearly stinks. Lugnuts 06:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- A one week block for this? I personally do not see how that is worthy of a block. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:18, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I agree. The issue is not anything Lugnuts might have written as a reaction to what he considered an inadequate BEFORE. The real issue, which sysops need to seriously address, is that certain AfD regulars automatically go for the delete option instead of showing proper respect for WP:PRESERVE which is a key component of the site's editing policy. If an article genuinely lacks significance (e.g., a non-league footballer), then of course it should be deleted. But, if the guy is a league player and therefore potentially notable, although his article currently falls short of the SIGCOV bar, then it should be a redirect per PRESERVE so that the history is retained in case someone does find the necessary coverage later. AfD is going to be a problem until these people are made to perform BEFORE adequately and learn the difference between an article that should be deleted and one that should be redirected. Lugnuts does his very best to find sources when one of his stubs is challenged and I fully empathise with the inevitable frustration that arises when he sees the same people repeatedly failing to do their best. I think this block should be terminated immediately. NGS 16:25, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Spartaz this is a dreadful block. Honestly. This amounts to literally nothing in the big scheme of things, yet a week-long block?? People have directly attacked one another (indeed, admins have told users to "fuck off" for example) with no penalty. This block is utter bollocks. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:30, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I agree. The issue is not anything Lugnuts might have written as a reaction to what he considered an inadequate BEFORE. The real issue, which sysops need to seriously address, is that certain AfD regulars automatically go for the delete option instead of showing proper respect for WP:PRESERVE which is a key component of the site's editing policy. If an article genuinely lacks significance (e.g., a non-league footballer), then of course it should be deleted. But, if the guy is a league player and therefore potentially notable, although his article currently falls short of the SIGCOV bar, then it should be a redirect per PRESERVE so that the history is retained in case someone does find the necessary coverage later. AfD is going to be a problem until these people are made to perform BEFORE adequately and learn the difference between an article that should be deleted and one that should be redirected. Lugnuts does his very best to find sources when one of his stubs is challenged and I fully empathise with the inevitable frustration that arises when he sees the same people repeatedly failing to do their best. I think this block should be terminated immediately. NGS 16:25, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks BeanieFan11. Reading that and other similar comments on the blocking admin's talkpage can only bring one conclusion - everyone will agree to disagree. Anyway, I've had a day off, as it were, to look over this, calm down and reflect. Clearly I have an issue understanding WP:ASPERSIONS. The link to Wiktionary has the definition of "To make damaging or spiteful remarks". And that's where I'm struggling. I understand what would be a personal attack, for example calling X user a <insert swear word here>, which is unacceptable, and something I wouldn't do. There seems (to me at least) to be a grey area between the boundaries of a WP:NPA and WP:ASPERSIONS. So @Spartaz: and @Beeblebrox: - please help me to help myself in this situation. If I was to request an unblock, what would you want me to say and what would you want me to agree to so we can move forward on this? Happy to strike/remove said comment, along with anything else you would deem appropriate. Believe it or not, I don't come to WP each day with the any intent on winding people up and causing disruption. I know some people may be choking on their token beverage of choice reading that, but it's true. I'm obviously too blunt (sometimes) for my own good. Thanks. Lugnuts 16:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- It's basically battlefield behaviour. You don't seem to be able to stop yourself from making comments about other editors as part of your effort to win a discussion. If you weren't on so many warnings and blocks for precisely this then of course the comment wouldn't have led to a block or let to any comment but you are on thin ice because it's not ending. Perhaps I can turn the question round on you? How can we stop you commenting on editors instead of the content. No one has ever been blocked for discussing a source or adding sourced content but doing that doesn't require you to make pronouncements about other editors as part of your contribution. The community is clearly losing patience with disruption around you and defending the articles you created at AFD without having a go in some way at those you perceive as on the wrong side seems to be very difficult for you . You have a ban from creating substubs because it leaves so much clean up to other editors and notability standards have moved well away from where you have been creating content. So how can we fix that? Blocks are a very crude tool so what else can we try?Do you have any ideas as I really feel you need some kind of filter to keep you out situations where you are tempted to say something about your "opponents"? What do you suggest? Spartaz 19:26, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Spartaz - OK, first off I've been working through expansion of "substubs" (here) to try and address the clean-up, and not leaving it to others. As far as AfD goes, I'm not trying to "win a discussion", I guess I'm just not the best a putting my point across. I guess I can look at an AfD, take a step back from who nominated it (as that's not important), and simply cite sound rationale(s) to keep (or indeed delete/merge/redirect, etc). Avoid saying anything that anyone could read as a non-constructive comment, and make sure the frustration around the whole change in notabilty does not get the better of me. And take that extra moment to read, re-read and double check any talk-space comment before hitting the submit button. How does that sound? Would that be acceptable for an unblock, and if not, please tell me what else I need to add. Thanks. Lugnuts 19:44, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think that would be fine now but after a while it will go to the back of your mind and then we will be back here, except next time it might be a month or and indef and you used up your chances. I'm not saying this to create an obstacle but thinking about how to put a structure in that will save you from yourself. As a regular AFD closer I can confidently say that sources and source analysis wins a debate. I never give any weight to comments that are essentially so and so smells. My point is you don't actively win a debate by making a comment but you can even win by proxy through offering sources and policy based arguments. You have a lot of supporters, do you have any you can trust to proof your comments and copy them over without the aspersions or personal attacks? I know that is a bit demeaning and frustrating for an editor of your eminence but I'm trying to think of a solution that's going to stick rather then just kick the can down the road until the next escalating block. Something similar worked for TRM and eventually wasn't needed. I'm not going to make this a condition of an unblock but I'd like you to seriously consider this or something like it as block/unblock or block/wait it out is inevitably going to see you gone from this project because the temptation to personalise your contributions is eventually going to get the better of you until or unless you find another way to make the contribution that filters that out. I'm unblocking you now but I'd be happy to continue the conversation tomorrow and I really hope you take the opportunity to create a permanent solution that removes the issue. That would be a win for everyone. Spartaz 20:59, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. It's late(ish) in the UK right now - let me have a read/sleep on your post, and I'll construct a full response in the morning. Thanks again. Lugnuts 21:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- It's even later here in Belgium and I'm knackered so tomorrow is fine. I'm just pleased you want to engage in the discussion. Spartaz 21:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ha! I honestly thought you were in North America based on your edit times. As I said elsewhere - will give this a complete review in the morning. Lugnuts 21:15, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- It's even later here in Belgium and I'm knackered so tomorrow is fine. I'm just pleased you want to engage in the discussion. Spartaz 21:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. It's late(ish) in the UK right now - let me have a read/sleep on your post, and I'll construct a full response in the morning. Thanks again. Lugnuts 21:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think that would be fine now but after a while it will go to the back of your mind and then we will be back here, except next time it might be a month or and indef and you used up your chances. I'm not saying this to create an obstacle but thinking about how to put a structure in that will save you from yourself. As a regular AFD closer I can confidently say that sources and source analysis wins a debate. I never give any weight to comments that are essentially so and so smells. My point is you don't actively win a debate by making a comment but you can even win by proxy through offering sources and policy based arguments. You have a lot of supporters, do you have any you can trust to proof your comments and copy them over without the aspersions or personal attacks? I know that is a bit demeaning and frustrating for an editor of your eminence but I'm trying to think of a solution that's going to stick rather then just kick the can down the road until the next escalating block. Something similar worked for TRM and eventually wasn't needed. I'm not going to make this a condition of an unblock but I'd like you to seriously consider this or something like it as block/unblock or block/wait it out is inevitably going to see you gone from this project because the temptation to personalise your contributions is eventually going to get the better of you until or unless you find another way to make the contribution that filters that out. I'm unblocking you now but I'd be happy to continue the conversation tomorrow and I really hope you take the opportunity to create a permanent solution that removes the issue. That would be a win for everyone. Spartaz 20:59, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Spartaz - OK, first off I've been working through expansion of "substubs" (here) to try and address the clean-up, and not leaving it to others. As far as AfD goes, I'm not trying to "win a discussion", I guess I'm just not the best a putting my point across. I guess I can look at an AfD, take a step back from who nominated it (as that's not important), and simply cite sound rationale(s) to keep (or indeed delete/merge/redirect, etc). Avoid saying anything that anyone could read as a non-constructive comment, and make sure the frustration around the whole change in notabilty does not get the better of me. And take that extra moment to read, re-read and double check any talk-space comment before hitting the submit button. How does that sound? Would that be acceptable for an unblock, and if not, please tell me what else I need to add. Thanks. Lugnuts 19:44, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- It's basically battlefield behaviour. You don't seem to be able to stop yourself from making comments about other editors as part of your effort to win a discussion. If you weren't on so many warnings and blocks for precisely this then of course the comment wouldn't have led to a block or let to any comment but you are on thin ice because it's not ending. Perhaps I can turn the question round on you? How can we stop you commenting on editors instead of the content. No one has ever been blocked for discussing a source or adding sourced content but doing that doesn't require you to make pronouncements about other editors as part of your contribution. The community is clearly losing patience with disruption around you and defending the articles you created at AFD without having a go in some way at those you perceive as on the wrong side seems to be very difficult for you . You have a ban from creating substubs because it leaves so much clean up to other editors and notability standards have moved well away from where you have been creating content. So how can we fix that? Blocks are a very crude tool so what else can we try?Do you have any ideas as I really feel you need some kind of filter to keep you out situations where you are tempted to say something about your "opponents"? What do you suggest? Spartaz 19:26, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Spartaz: - it goes without saying (but I'll say it anyway) that the first thing I'll do when the block ends is to stike that AfD comment and apology in that discussion too. Hopefully you're still online and this doesn't get protracted due to timezones, etc. Thanks. Lugnuts 19:54, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I unblocked you but those annoying floating messages for talk page comments interfered with my rationale and then the autocorrect took over when I was trying to say per discussion here. Please take my comments seriously. You need to find a structural solution. Block unblock is wearing thin when the same issues crop up. Spartaz 21:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Will do and understood. Lugnuts 21:08, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I unblocked you but those annoying floating messages for talk page comments interfered with my rationale and then the autocorrect took over when I was trying to say per discussion here. Please take my comments seriously. You need to find a structural solution. Block unblock is wearing thin when the same issues crop up. Spartaz 21:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks BeanieFan11. Reading that and other similar comments on the blocking admin's talkpage can only bring one conclusion - everyone will agree to disagree. Anyway, I've had a day off, as it were, to look over this, calm down and reflect. Clearly I have an issue understanding WP:ASPERSIONS. The link to Wiktionary has the definition of "To make damaging or spiteful remarks". And that's where I'm struggling. I understand what would be a personal attack, for example calling X user a <insert swear word here>, which is unacceptable, and something I wouldn't do. There seems (to me at least) to be a grey area between the boundaries of a WP:NPA and WP:ASPERSIONS. So @Spartaz: and @Beeblebrox: - please help me to help myself in this situation. If I was to request an unblock, what would you want me to say and what would you want me to agree to so we can move forward on this? Happy to strike/remove said comment, along with anything else you would deem appropriate. Believe it or not, I don't come to WP each day with the any intent on winding people up and causing disruption. I know some people may be choking on their token beverage of choice reading that, but it's true. I'm obviously too blunt (sometimes) for my own good. Thanks. Lugnuts 16:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I apologize for the nomination, I wanted to nominate an article for deletion written by someone other than Lugnuts, but I forgot to check who the original creator was. I do not intend on making any more nominations in the WP:NOLY area. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:45, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it! Lugnuts 12:03, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
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2022 County Championship
Hello, Lugnuts. Welcome back. I was looking through your contribs to see if I could help with anything in case you were out for a full week. Someone had been updating this article by posting snapshot scores from mid-afternoon on the second day of play! Yes, really. I've reverted it all back to your last edit so you might want to take a look tomorrow and see if all is okay. This is an excellent article, by the way – very well constructed and highly informative. Great work. Keep it up.
As I said above in the April 2022 piece, you are not the problem. The issue is people who visit AfD on a regular basis who think only in terms of delete. They need to understand that PRESERVE is part of editing policy while SIGCOV is only a guideline. That's what sysops should be focused on. Anyway, as you said yourself, it's latish here now. Glad you're back and hope you're okay. All the best. NGS 21:15, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you (and to all those who also replied in the above thread). The County Championship is my final thing to do tonight. Will give a more fitting reply to all in the morning too. :) Lugnuts 21:17, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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Interesting
I find it interesting how many accounts take issue with your articles Lugnuts. It almost seems like when one user receives a topic ban for mass nominating AfDs, another user takes up the mantle. Also interesting how they all seem to disproportionately target your articles specifically. Also all seem to frequently fail WP:BEFORE on sportspeople articles. Strange how they focus on those specific areas as well as retaining old English exonyms. I suppose there's a group of people out there who have a focus on both nominating sportspeople for deletion and retaining old English exonyms. I personally find that combination of topics oddly specific.
Good luck. You didn't deserve that block earlier. Have no idea how you've dealt with this for so long. Desertambition (talk) 20:44, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'll tell you what happened. The deletionists finally took over the project. Right around the time WP:NOLY was changed, I was going to tell him that the deletionists would also come for WP:NFOOTY. It turns out I was right. The community has decided that 1 sentence stubs are no longer acceptable. I personally don't mind them, as I have created many myself.
- I dedicate a good chunk of time on here preserving the articles for secondary schools when they get nominated for deletion. Secondary schools are no longer inherently notable as of 2017. Scorpions13256 (talk) 00:33, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks both. Apparently, you can't say the word "deletionist" anymore, despite there being a user box specifically for that. It's health and safety gone mad... Lugnuts 07:57, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- You can say it all you want, but you can't blame others for not really taking you seriously if you do. I had a look at the category, most of those accounts are long gone, although I do see a few familiar names from recent memory on there. I find that a bit silly as well. The whole idea that there is some "great war" between the evil deletionists and the bold virtuous inclusionists got rather played out quite some time ago. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:36, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, what's your point here? Lugnuts 18:39, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- I thought the deletionists were the good guys? ;-) Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:31, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. Yes they are. And I wont hear a bad word said against them. Lugnuts 19:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- You can say it all you want, but you can't blame others for not really taking you seriously if you do. I had a look at the category, most of those accounts are long gone, although I do see a few familiar names from recent memory on there. I find that a bit silly as well. The whole idea that there is some "great war" between the evil deletionists and the bold virtuous inclusionists got rather played out quite some time ago. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:36, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Namibian cricket team in Zimbabwe in 2022
Hello User:Lugnuts
I created a page Namibian cricket team in Zimbabwe in 2022 on 05 April 2022 with some details with CzarSportsAuto as the solitary source. User:Bs1jac asked to Hold on to the updates as he wanted the information to publish by more sources. On 15th April, you moved the page to Namibian cricket team in Zimbabwe in 2021-22 without leaving a redirect and then immediately recreated the same page (Namibian cricket team in Zimbabwe in 2022) by your i/d. What was the need to move my page when you had to recreate it again. I know you have been making the maximum number of edits on cricket, but please let others alson contribute
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- THink it was in the wrong year. Thanks. Lugnuts 10:13, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
New articles
I wasn't a fan of some of the short Olympian and cricketer stubs but always loved the groundwork you did on films. And there's still a staggering amount missing, particularly from non anglo countries. Most of the lists I did haven't been updated in the last few years. I think it's a great shame that they banned you from creating new articles when you could be continuing the work you did on films. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:30, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Dr B - long time no speak. Hope you are well. I did what I can, and continue to do what I can, despite the restrictions. Much easier to move the goalposts + destroy, rather than help to build. Take care. Lugnuts 10:32, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Good to hear from you too. Very well thanks. It's completely against the principles of building an encyclopedia though, you should have the freedom to create whatever you want if the articles meet guidelines. As Charles Matthews once said a while back, "we need editors who create lots of articles" when taking about User:Boleyn. Is there anyway they can revise the restrctions to allow you to create film articles which have two sources or something? Most people who edit film articles are very grateful for the work you did on here and the consistency of it which allow them to be easily expanded. Annoying.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:57, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think I can appeal after six months of the initial restrictions being imposed, subject to my motivation to do so. We must stop all these one-line stubs, or else! Such as this and this, and thousands more that get added every day by other editors. Speaking of expansion, the other fallacy is that I leave all the expansion work to others. Keeping just a recent record of that shows it's not true. And if anyone took a few seconds to look at the articles linked to the International cricket in 2021–22 page, for example, they can easily bask in my magnificence. Enjoy the rest of the Bank Holiday! Lugnuts 12:23, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Muzamil Sherzad
Got an interesting potential DYK nom right there ;) StickyWicket (talk) 18:17, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Dare I dream?! Saw that he was at the U19 World Cup, and saw that there was quite a bit about him. Lugnuts 18:19, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely. V interesting. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:18, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you - nice to see some positive comments (at long last) about cricket articles. I will look into the DYK process tomorrow, as it's been some time since I last nominated one. Lugnuts 19:22, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely. V interesting. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:18, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Given that the nom above was made at 14:01, 4 May 2022 (UTC) and this one was at 13:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC) isn't this a violation of your editing restriction - " User:Johnpacklambert is indefinitely banned from nominating any articles at WP:AFD to a maximum of ONE article in any given calendar day, determined by UTC"? Please can an admin clarify? Thanks. Lugnuts 13:48, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- So long as JohnPackLambert limits his nominations to one per calendar day, my view would be that he is acting within his restriction. The reference to "UTC" appears to be used to determine how we determine what is a calendar day (i.e., how we determine when May 4 begins and ends), not to require that he wait 24:01 between nominations. Cbl62 (talk) 17:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Lugnuts 17:20, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
AfD
I'm sorry, but it seems there is a singular user nominating your articles for deletion? I don't want to postulate that they have an agenda but it seems just so so bizzare. Clogs up your talk page too... X-750 I've made a mistake, haven't I? 03:35, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't like to comment incase someone takes it the wrong way... Lugnuts 08:01, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Understandably not. Just an odd observation. How about some pavlova in the meantime? X-750 I've made a mistake, haven't I? 08:27, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Serve it up! Lugnuts 08:43, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Understandably not. Just an odd observation. How about some pavlova in the meantime? X-750 I've made a mistake, haven't I? 08:27, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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are gonna bleed from me And I will sing no more." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:18, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- ..."and I'll find me a soapbox where I can shout it"... Was lucky enough to see them live back in 2004. Happy days. Thank you for the page protection BTW - much appreciated. And thanks to all who've helped in the past with reverts and rev'dels! Lugnuts 16:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
English Cricket team in india 2005-2006
Recent revisions you made to the Misplaced Pages article English cricket team in India in 2005–06 were either written in your opinion or were plagiarized from some sports magazine or newspaper. Cassie Schebel, almost a savant. <3 (talk) 17:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Please check the additions made by the IP editor - they are a WP:LTA case of adding false scorecard information... Lugnuts 18:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- My apologies. I realized It was past two o clock and I hadn't eaten lunch, I was probably being unreasonable and irritable. Cassie Schebel, almost a savant. <3 (talk) 20:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- No worries - unreasonable and irritable are two words I live by on a day-to-day basis! I'll take a better look at that page later. You're right - there's def. a lot of WP:OR in the match reports, so most of that can be ditched. Thanks. Lugnuts 06:35, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- My apologies. I realized It was past two o clock and I hadn't eaten lunch, I was probably being unreasonable and irritable. Cassie Schebel, almost a savant. <3 (talk) 20:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Leagues
Hi. I wanted to create to create articles for the UAE T20 League or whatever the name they are referring to as the Knight Riders, Glazers and others have bought teams there. I think it have enough coverage to have article though I'm not sure as I don't want my talk page to be cluttered with AfD noms like yours. It sucks you cant create stubs anymore that would have made it easier finding sources. I also wanted to create the article for 2022 season of LPL which was one of the reasons why Sri Lanka scrapped the ODIs with Pakistan. There's also an unnamed franchise tournament announced by CSA to replace MSL which I'm keeping aside for now. It'll be great if you help with sources and and reviewing the articles. Thanks Human (talk) 12:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi! Yes, both of these should pass WP:GNG with enough coverage of them. Happy to help with adding sources - just drop me a note here with a link to each page as/when it's created. Thanks. Lugnuts 12:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- The UAE league seems to have quite a good coverage but I don't know what the title of the article should be. ECB doesn't mention the name either: . Human (talk) 02:02, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe go with something like UAE T20 League for now, and it can be moved when the name is announced, or create a draft in your sandbox until there's more known. Lugnuts 07:14, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- The UAE league seems to have quite a good coverage but I don't know what the title of the article should be. ECB doesn't mention the name either: . Human (talk) 02:02, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Number of AfDs started by Lambert since 1st Jan on articles I started: 40 Lugnuts 13:06, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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2020 ICC WOMEN'S T20 WORLD CUP SQUADS
Hi what is my mistake please tell me i was thinking that i don't add a refrenece that is my mistake. And if you know i am making a mistake then why did'nt you fixeing my mistake . Rather you're telling me to solve my mistake Saha86830 (talk) 05:47, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Did you say something about a mistake? Lugnuts 06:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Conflict of interest?
G'day Lugnuts, I hope you're doing fine. I'm real good mates with Andrew Jefffoat and Michael Pickett (swimmer), and I was just wondering does that create a COI for me when editing their articles? Cheers! X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 20:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Morning! All good here, thanks. Hope you're well too. I'm not that familar with the COI rules myself, but WP:COIEDIT has all the info. Lugnuts 06:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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Nomination of Edward Maw for deletion
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John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:32, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Number of AfDs started by Lambert since 1st Jan: 87
- Number of AfDs started by Lambert since 1st Jan on articles I started: 41
- Lugnuts 14:49, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- When you flood a category with sub-stub articles that you spent less than 5 minutes on creating so much that you get banned from creating more stubs, than it is not surprising that lots of articles you created are nominated for deletion. I am not singling out articles created by you for deletion. There is a policy now that non-medaling Olympians are not notable. I have nominated articles created by other editors on non-medaling Olympians for deletion as well. You have also been asked to be respectful and refer to me as Mr. Lambert. I find your continued refusal to refer to me in a respectcful way a sign of general rudeness and disrespect. There is no attempt to single out articles created by you for deletion. There is an attempt to remove from Misplaced Pages articles on non-medaling Olympians that lack significant coverage in reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:20, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- "There is no attempt to single out articles created by you for deletion" - Sure thing, Lambert! Lugnuts 13:27, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Stop with your rude references to me. You have been asked on multiple times to refer to me as Mr. Lambert. Your refusal to do so is a clear sign of rudeness, disrespect and trying to create less cooperation on the encyclopedia. Please stop refering to me in this rude and disrespectful manner.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- "There is no attempt to single out articles created by you for deletion" - Sure thing, Lambert! Lugnuts 13:27, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- When you flood a category with sub-stub articles that you spent less than 5 minutes on creating so much that you get banned from creating more stubs, than it is not surprising that lots of articles you created are nominated for deletion. I am not singling out articles created by you for deletion. There is a policy now that non-medaling Olympians are not notable. I have nominated articles created by other editors on non-medaling Olympians for deletion as well. You have also been asked to be respectful and refer to me as Mr. Lambert. I find your continued refusal to refer to me in a respectcful way a sign of general rudeness and disrespect. There is no attempt to single out articles created by you for deletion. There is an attempt to remove from Misplaced Pages articles on non-medaling Olympians that lack significant coverage in reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:20, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Otto Schröder for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Otto Schröder is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Otto Schröder until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:16, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Number of AfDs started by Lambert since 1st Jan: 88
- Number of AfDs started by Lambert since 1st Jan on articles I started: 42
Same time tomorrow, Lambert! Lugnuts 13:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- I did not even nominate an article created by you for deletion yesterday. You need to stop the bad faith assumptions and accusations against fellow editors.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:54, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- I never said you did, Lambert. Still, we'll see you here about this time tomorrow. And the day after that. And the day after that. And the day after that. And the day after that. And the day after that. Lugnuts 16:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Stop refering to me in such a disrespectful manner. You have now been asked on multiple occasions to refer to me as Mr. Lambert. Your continual refusal to do so shows persistent rudeness on your part.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:00, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Wait - is that your real name? I thought it was a TV character or some-such other pseudonym. Lugnuts 13:01, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Stop refering to me in such a disrespectful manner. You have now been asked on multiple occasions to refer to me as Mr. Lambert. Your continual refusal to do so shows persistent rudeness on your part.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:00, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Number of AfDs started by Lambert since 1st Jan: 89
- Number of AfDs started by Lambert since 1st Jan on articles I started: 43
- "There is no attempt to single out articles created by you for deletion" - Lambert
Same time tomorrow, Lambert! Lugnuts 13:02, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Gymnastics
Here, here's your source for the Olympics. https://web.archive.org/web/20120731114223/http://www.gymnasticsresults.com/olympics.html#1996 Qualifications is not an event. Team finals, all around finals, and event finals are. Instead of harassing me, why don't you educate yourself on these things. Quit following me around when I'm fixing your mistakes. Afheather (talk) 13:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Please, do not cast aspersions. Hardly following you around, when you are reverting me, and not supplying any sources for your revert! I look forward to your apology here. Thanks. Lugnuts 13:34, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- And if I had made this personal attack on you, no doubt an admin would be trigger-happy with the block button. Lugnuts 13:36, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Your "source" doesn't even back you up. It shows their results from qualifications, not finals. None of these athletes made it out of qualifications to compete in the events you're claiming they did. Example: Elizabeth Line. You claim she competed in the team, all around, and beam events. Do you see her or Great Britain listed here: http://www.gymnasticsresults.com/olympics/2004/wagfinals.html ? You don't, because she didn't compete. Your lack of knowledge on how gymnastics is contested prevents you from properly extrapolating data.Afheather (talk) 13:45, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Still no apology... Lugnuts 13:47, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is nothing to apologize for. It's a straight up fact. All these microstubs you've created are being brought up for deletion and you don't like it. I'm correcting blatant mistakes in these articles so that if they are brought up for deletion and are rated as keep, they're at least factually correct. Afheather (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- "There is nothing to apologize for." Apart from your personal attack. And casting aspersions. You're not correcting "blatant mistakes" - as you're supplying ZERO sources on each and every article to verify your edits. Infact, when you're simply removing chunks of text from articles, with no explination/rationale, it looks like vandalism. Lugnuts 13:57, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nothing I'm correcting isn't already backed up by the source already supplied. You just don't know how to read the results. Afheather (talk) 13:59, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- And as to personal attacks, accusing me of vandalism isn't? Afheather (talk) 14:00, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Read what I've written again and the order of the words - "when you're simply removing chunks of text from articles, with no explination/rationale, it looks like vandalism" I've highlighted the key word to help you. You've supplied no sources, so unless you're going to bother to add them, then there's nothing more to add here. Lugnuts 14:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- The source already provided backs up my edit. You just don't know how the sport is contested. Afheather (talk) 14:07, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- So educate me and fix it. Lugnuts 14:15, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Gymnastics at the Olympics is done in stages. The first stage is qualifications. Everyone competes in this phase. It determines who goes on to team, individual all around, and event finals. It is very rare for someone to make all finals. Simone Biles was the only one who did it in the 2020 Olympics and before that I think the last one was Shannon Miller in 1992. There is some variation on this in about every Olympics, so it can get hinky. Athletes must perform on all apparatus to try to qualify to the all around, hence why I used Elizabeth Line as an example because she couldn't even qualify for the all around since she only performed on the beam in qualifications. Currently, the top 8 teams advance to the team final, although this has changed from past Olympics where the team final was contested as part of qualifications. The last year that was done was 1996. Starting in 2004, the 2 per country rule was invoked, meaning that only 2 people per country can qualify to the all around final. Before that, the top 3 could. The top 24 athletes after removing anyone who was in the top 24 but behind 2 of the other athletes from their country, advance to the all around. This rule was already in place for the apparatus finals, which takes the top 8 gymnasts in each event, 2 per country notwithstanding. An athlete may compete on all apparatuses during qualifications but still not progress past that phase or maybe just make it to the team final. So saying someone competed in 6 events when they didn't make it past qualifications is inaccurate.
- I have been fixing it, and I tried explaining it to you when I first noticed the issue. Afheather (talk) 14:30, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - I obviously missed the detailed explination from you earlier. Lugnuts 14:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Does this mean I can continue correcting them in peace? I don't think my above explanation will fit in the comment box. Afheather (talk) 15:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yep, that's fine. Just needed to be clear to the layperson (IE me) why content was being removed without any obvious reason. Thanks. Lugnuts 16:15, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Does this mean I can continue correcting them in peace? I don't think my above explanation will fit in the comment box. Afheather (talk) 15:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - I obviously missed the detailed explination from you earlier. Lugnuts 14:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- So educate me and fix it. Lugnuts 14:15, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- The source already provided backs up my edit. You just don't know how the sport is contested. Afheather (talk) 14:07, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Read what I've written again and the order of the words - "when you're simply removing chunks of text from articles, with no explination/rationale, it looks like vandalism" I've highlighted the key word to help you. You've supplied no sources, so unless you're going to bother to add them, then there's nothing more to add here. Lugnuts 14:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- "There is nothing to apologize for." Apart from your personal attack. And casting aspersions. You're not correcting "blatant mistakes" - as you're supplying ZERO sources on each and every article to verify your edits. Infact, when you're simply removing chunks of text from articles, with no explination/rationale, it looks like vandalism. Lugnuts 13:57, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is nothing to apologize for. It's a straight up fact. All these microstubs you've created are being brought up for deletion and you don't like it. I'm correcting blatant mistakes in these articles so that if they are brought up for deletion and are rated as keep, they're at least factually correct. Afheather (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Still no apology... Lugnuts 13:47, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of K. R. Karimanickam for deletion
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𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 14:09, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Your signature and lint errors
Hey, mind changing your signature from ''']''' <sup>]</sup>
to ''']''' <sup>]</sup>
? Per WP:SIGFONT:
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tags were deprecated in HTML4 and are entirely obsolete in HTML5. This means that the popular browsers may drop support for them at some point. Misplaced Pages is already preparing for this by delinting code project-wide through Linter. When support is finally dropped, the tags will be ignored in all signatures; any properties such as color and font family will revert to their default values. For this reason, it is recommended that you use<span>...</span>
tags and CSS properties instead. For usage examples, see Misplaced Pages:Signature tutorial § Real-life examples."
When you change your signature to the one with span tags, we reduce Lint errors. The aim is to eliminate all lint errors rather than add them. We're currently at 11.59m+, don't add more :) Sheep (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Andy Fletcher (musician)
On 27 May 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Andy Fletcher (musician), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 20:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! Another musician's death to add to my ITN work. Lets have a Black Celebration. :( Lugnuts 07:26, 28 May 2022 (UTC)