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	Replying: North Africans are also considered caucasian. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:52, 6 June 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->		Replying: North Africans are also considered caucasian. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:52, 6 June 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== Misleading statistics ==

	In the ] subsection most statistics include both blue and green eyes on them and there is one that also includes grey-eyed people, which doesn't make much sense, because the incidence of green eyes is much lower than blue eye color, even in Nordic countries and most people when looking at these statistics will assume that the percentage is fairly proportional, when in fact it isn't. There was a percentage (which I substituted) saying that 80% percentage of Icelanders have both blue and green eyes, but I was able to find a source stating that 80% of men and 68-70% of women have blue eyes and by contrast only around 8-10% of men and 18-21% of women have green colored eyes in Iceland.

	So for the reasons mentioned above, it's misleading to use statistics that aggregate both blue and green eyes in the ] subsection.

	I took the initiative and removed/corrected all of those statistics, apart from the last one which I was not able to find any substitutable source.
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Why is editing blocked on an article with such poor sourcing?

"DNA studies on ancient human remains confirm that light skin, hair and eyes were present at least tens of thousands of years ago on Neanderthals, who lived in Eurasia for 500,000 years."

No, those sources don't say that -- especially the bit about "500,000 years," but more important (given the subject of the article) nothing "confirms" "light eyes" in Neanderthals, only light skin and red hair. Genes expressing blue eyes in modern homo sapiens were present but less dominant in a couple DNA samples mentioned in one of the articles, but that's it, and the article warns that the study is not widely accepted and that we ahve no way of knowing what the actual effect of thse genes would have been.

Yet there it is: DNA studies on ancient human remains confirm that light skin, hair and eyes were present at least tens of thousands of years ago on Neanderthals, who lived in Eurasia for 500,000 years.

Who besides me will actually READ all five of those sources? It's not unlikely that the original editor who contributed the sentences had racist motives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:cda0:9220:c1ea:12f4:f079:be78 (talk • contribs)

Photo race bias: Caucasian eyes

As far as I can tell, of the 34 photos of human eyes in this story, all are Caucasian except one photo of an east asian eye (repeated twice). As the article's text makes clear, it's not correct to assume that everyone except Caucasians has brown eyes. For instance, just googling "North African blue eyes" generates many striking photos, e.g. https://africageographic.com/stories/the-boy-with-the-sapphire-eyes/ It would be great if this article were more inclusive.

Replying: North Africans are also considered caucasian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:6E00:295:A320:359B:C31B:8FDB:DF3A (talk) 08:52, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

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Inconsistent spelling of “grey or gray”, are we to use queen’s English or bastardized English. 150.143.179.27 (talk) 10:09, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Both forms are acceptable in both types of English, but I suppose we should us one consistently in this article. The article title is a bit of a clue as to what variety is used here.... Johnbod (talk) 15:13, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Cheers Johnbod for editing the spelling of the colour “grey” to be consistently wrong.

Hazel Eyes

The hazel eye section is misleading and ambiguous. Hazel eyes aren't a real eye colour and are very much open for interpretation. The colour hazel itself refers to the light golden brown of a hazel nut shell which was originally how hazel eyes were identified however it's not as common in modern times to refer to light/golden brown eyes as hazel as they would just be deemed brown so often people refer to multi coloured eyes with central heterochromia ei blue, grey or green eyes with brown around the pupil as hazel as they're not a solid easily identifiable colour and the brown around the pupil resembles that of the colour hazel. This being said the true colour of the eye is the outer colour (blue, grey or green) not the brown/golden central heterochromia around the pupil, which is a common condition amongst light eyed populations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:6E00:295:A320:359B:C31B:8FDB:DF3A (talk) 08:40, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Vladimir Putin

He has very sticking green eyes. Why isn't this discussed in any fashion on Misplaced Pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valgrus Thunderaxe (talk • contribs) 09:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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