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| I'm going to add some further comment as well, since I do think you have been mistaken in your actions. I am not saying you have violated policy or anything of that sort. I merely believe your choice of methods was poor, and I think the response on the AFD indicates an awareness on your part of the same. I do respect that you have some valid concerns about the articles, and I'm glad you intend to try that now, though I am concerned that you may be a bit overzealous in your attitude. Still, if you do at least intend to make the attempt to go for improvement first (one of my initial concerns with your actions was that I didn't even see such an attempt on your part, though I can accept that as a new user you may not have been aware of those options beforehand), I think it'll go better. And besides the already mentioned clean-up tags and talk pages, you could also try one of the various Wikiprojects from ] to one of the many projects on specific series/authors. ] 00:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC) | I'm going to add some further comment as well, since I do think you have been mistaken in your actions. I am not saying you have violated policy or anything of that sort. I merely believe your choice of methods was poor, and I think the response on the AFD indicates an awareness on your part of the same. I do respect that you have some valid concerns about the articles, and I'm glad you intend to try that now, though I am concerned that you may be a bit overzealous in your attitude. Still, if you do at least intend to make the attempt to go for improvement first (one of my initial concerns with your actions was that I didn't even see such an attempt on your part, though I can accept that as a new user you may not have been aware of those options beforehand), I think it'll go better. And besides the already mentioned clean-up tags and talk pages, you could also try one of the various Wikiprojects from ] to one of the many projects on specific series/authors. ] 00:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
| *I think the AfD would be a perfect example of "Do Not Edit While In a Bad Mood and Having Spent Three Hours Reading and Discussing WikiPolicy". This basically emerged from an offline discussion regarding a number of book articles, and whether they violated policy, and degenerated into an intent vs letter of the law, and ended with a "Fine, I'll put one up and and we'll end this". Mind you, the state of things had been bugging me for a while as an IP number (I've been here for a year or two, but never registered because I haven't wanted to), but I never had the time or the familiarity to make more than minor fixes. I suspect that for most articles, a small reduction in summary size joined with sales figures and an one to two paragraph analysis of the work (usually available, though it might take a bit of looking) will be enough (with the other non-summary information in most articles) to take the focus off of the summary. Assuming that there's just about any proposals on the talk pages, this will probably be the last AfD. | |||
| :As for zealotry, maybe, but I've found that a can-do, energetic attitude can accomplish wonders.] | |||
| Also, you may wish to try using <nowiki>{{Plot}}</nowiki> instead of simply using Cleanup when it's appropriate. ] 00:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC) | Also, you may wish to try using <nowiki>{{Plot}}</nowiki> instead of simply using Cleanup when it's appropriate. ] 00:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
| *Ah, thank you! I could have sworn that I saw it before, but when I looked for it again, I wasn't able to find it. | |||
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I have a feeling you are misinterpreting the application of WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE. I would encourage you to ask others what their interpretations on this ruling are, possibly at the Help Desk or in IRC before you nominate any more pages for Deletion. In general, I'd encourage you to look through Misplaced Pages policies and past rulings to get an idea of the precent involved in AfD cases, as it should help you understand what is and is not generally accepted on Misplaced Pages.
Good luck - Runch 20:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Adding cleanup tags to needy articles is fine, but please familiarize yourself with WP:AFD and Misplaced Pages:Deletion_policy before nominating anymore articles for deletion. - Runch 23:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- I am familiar with AFD procedures and deletion policy. Indeed, AfDs were among the first things that I was involved in on Misplaced Pages, though I was an IP number at the time. My actions in AfD have been perfectly in line with policy, though perhaps in poor taste and of bad form.
I'm going to add some further comment as well, since I do think you have been mistaken in your actions. I am not saying you have violated policy or anything of that sort. I merely believe your choice of methods was poor, and I think the response on the AFD indicates an awareness on your part of the same. I do respect that you have some valid concerns about the articles, and I'm glad you intend to try that now, though I am concerned that you may be a bit overzealous in your attitude. Still, if you do at least intend to make the attempt to go for improvement first (one of my initial concerns with your actions was that I didn't even see such an attempt on your part, though I can accept that as a new user you may not have been aware of those options beforehand), I think it'll go better. And besides the already mentioned clean-up tags and talk pages, you could also try one of the various Wikiprojects from WP:BOOKS to one of the many projects on specific series/authors. Mister.Manticore 00:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think the AfD would be a perfect example of "Do Not Edit While In a Bad Mood and Having Spent Three Hours Reading and Discussing WikiPolicy". This basically emerged from an offline discussion regarding a number of book articles, and whether they violated policy, and degenerated into an intent vs letter of the law, and ended with a "Fine, I'll put one up and and we'll end this". Mind you, the state of things had been bugging me for a while as an IP number (I've been here for a year or two, but never registered because I haven't wanted to), but I never had the time or the familiarity to make more than minor fixes. I suspect that for most articles, a small reduction in summary size joined with sales figures and an one to two paragraph analysis of the work (usually available, though it might take a bit of looking) will be enough (with the other non-summary information in most articles) to take the focus off of the summary. Assuming that there's just about any proposals on the talk pages, this will probably be the last AfD.
- As for zealotry, maybe, but I've found that a can-do, energetic attitude can accomplish wonders.MPoint
Also, you may wish to try using {{Plot}} instead of simply using Cleanup when it's appropriate. Mister.Manticore 00:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you! I could have sworn that I saw it before, but when I looked for it again, I wasn't able to find it.