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			পৌন্ড্র জাতির অনেক মানুষ চৈতন্য মহাপ্রভুর ভক্তিতে মুগ্ধ হয়ে বৈষ্ণব হয়ে যায়। তাই পৌন্ড্র জাতির মধ্যে অনেক বৈষ্ণব সম্প্রদায়ের মানুষ আছে। তাদের গোত্র অচ্যুত গোত্র।

	নাথ সম্প্রদায় হলো রুদ্রজ ব্রাহ্মণ সম্প্রদায়/ রুদ্রয সম্প্রদায় বৈষ্ণব/ শৈব। কারণ শিব শ্রেষ্ঠ বৈষ্ণব এদের গোত্র শিব। এদের বিয়ে শিব গোত্রের মধ্যেই হয় । এই সম্প্রদায় মৃত্যুর পর সমাধি হয়। জন্মের পর এদের সংস্কার হয় অর্থাৎ পাইতা হয় ব্রাহ্মণদের মতো তাই এরা ব্রাহ্মণ দের সমান । এরা যেকোনো জাতি হতে পারে (SC/ST/OBC/General) কারণ এদের মূল পরিচয় এদের গোত্র। এদের সাধারণত পদবী নাথ, দেবনাথ, মজুমদার, এবং ভৌমিক হয়ে থাকে। যেমন গৌড়ীয় বৈষ্ণব সম্প্রদায় এরাও যেমন অচ্যুত গোত্র হয়ে থাকে এবং এদের পদবী সাধরনত দাস, অধিকারী, বৈরাগ্য এবং মোহন্ত হয়ে থাকে এবং এদের বিয়ে অচ্যুত গোত্র এর মধ্যে হয়ে থাকে এবং এরা যে কোনও জাতির ( SC/ST/OBC/ General) হয় । এখন হিন্দু ধর্মে সম্প্রদায় চলে এসছে । যতো দিন সম্প্রদায় ছিলোনা ততদিন উচু নীচু বর্ণ চলতো কিন্তু এখন নেই। বৈষ্ণব / নাথ সম্প্রদায় এর জন্মের পর সংস্কার হয় অর্থাৎ পাইতা হয় তাই এরা ব্রাহ্মণ দের সমান।
	আমি Poundra জাতি এবং বৈষ্ণব সম্প্রদায় এর তাই আমি পৈতা পরি এবং SC Reservation ও পাই।
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Barman (2014)

In the pre-colonial literatures (such as Brihatdharma Purana, Brahmabaibartya Purana, Sibayan of Rameswar Bhattacharya and Annadamangal of Bharat Chandra Ray) the Poundras were classified as almost untouchable (as antaja, asatsudra, adhamsankara, etc).
— Barman, Rup Kumar (2014-01-01). "From Pods to Poundra: A Study on the Poundra Kshatriya Movement for Social Justice 1891–1956". Voice of Dalit. 7 (1): 121–138. doi:10.1177/0974354520140108. ISSN 0974-3545.

So many issues in a single line:

Asatsudra did not mean almost untouchable in Brh. P — such an assumption would span over half of the Uttam Sankaras alongside all of Madhyam Sankaras and Adham Sankaras. In any case, Poundras/Pods are not mentioned in Brh. P. and Barman does not provide any source either.
About Bv. P., see my addition to the article.
More later incl. other parts of article.

TrangaBellam (talk) 10:37, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Offensive terms banned by high courts of India..

Use of the word "dalit" is discouraged and banned by high courts of India..please remove it.. Kk1141014036 (talk) 15:47, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Decision by Bombay High court 2018 banning the use of word dalit Kk1141014036 (talk) 15:48, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Indian courts don't have jurisdiction over Misplaced Pages, which is hosted in the United States, and Misplaced Pages is not censored. JBW (talk) 16:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Kshatriya reservation ...

Many kshatriya castes have reservation benefits like Yadav's Jats Marathas etc come under OBC and many others have ST like Kurmi ..or Meena who also are known to be kshatriya..some kushwaha caste come under EBC too.

Poundra were recognised as kshatriya by government of West Bengal during 1950 and are mentioned as kshatriya in government records so officially they are kshatriya... Kk1141014036 (talk) 15:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

On 14 December 1939, Patiram Roy MLA placed the demand before the Bengal Legislative Assembly for identifying the community as Paundra-Kshatria, and the proposal was carried in the Assembly. Earlier on 6 May 1938, the secretary of the Bengal government in a letter appraised Patiram Roy that the community would be designated as 'Paundra-Kshatria' in the official documents and in proceedings of the court. Kk1141014036 (talk) 16:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Historical sources to support the kshatriya tag given..the status of Poundta as kshatriya continue till today Kk1141014036 (talk) 16:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Factual information

Maurya community which is known to be the ancestors of Mauryan dynasty are currently under Backward classes...many kshatriya too have reservation and quata benefits which doesn't qualify them to be called as Dalits.. Kk1141014036 (talk) 16:47, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2022

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Hi, It was me who requested a protection on this page but it appears that somebody edited this page before it was protected. Anyways here are few corrections that can be done: Poundras are also known as Poundra Kshatriyas here is a source to proof my claim(the truth) "Simultaneously, they adopted certain rituals from the caste Hindus to legitimize their demand. At the same time they placed their appeal to the colonial G9vernment for recognition of a respectable caste identity. They also initiated social reforms including the spread of education in their own society for materializing the dreams of achieving respectable caste status. In such a context of colonial society of Bengal, in this article I shall highlight the social movement of the Pods of Bengal who demanded Poundra (Kshatriya) identity for achieving respect and social justice what was granted by the Government of Independent India in 1956" and also, Though they are included in the scheduled castes, they are not Dalits.

}} Aceofalljackofnone (talk) 20:21, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Not done for now: You'll need to provide information on where that quote came from. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:42, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

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পৌন্ড্র জাতির অনেক মানুষ চৈতন্য মহাপ্রভুর ভক্তিতে মুগ্ধ হয়ে বৈষ্ণব হয়ে যায়। তাই পৌন্ড্র জাতির মধ্যে অনেক বৈষ্ণব সম্প্রদায়ের মানুষ আছে। তাদের গোত্র অচ্যুত গোত্র।

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Meetwithme234 (talk) 06:24, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Some Poundras are Baishnabs they are Achyuta Gotra. They converted to Vaishnavas during Bhakti Movement of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. They Practice Vaishnavism. They are Das and Adhikary titles.

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