Misplaced Pages

Latest revision as of 16:53, 20 December 2022

December 2022

Hello, I'm MrOllie. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Misplaced Pages as a "soapbox" are against Misplaced Pages policy and not permitted; Misplaced Pages articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Misplaced Pages. Thank you. MrOllie (talk) 15:31, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi MrOllie,

Thank you for the notice, and I'm disappointed to receive this news as I spent a lot of time on those edits.

I agree that Misplaced Pages should be objective and neutral, but I feel that Axie Infinity's page is overly negative. There are lots of positives being done in the ecosystem as well. My edits did not remove the negatives, but instead added positives to balance out the negatives. Plus, the structural and organization changes I think make the page read a whole lot better overall.

Could you please point me to the exact statement that reads promotional? It surely can't be the whole thing right? PokeMario151 (talk) 15:38, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages follows the tone of the sources, and the reliable sources on this are overwhelmingly negative. Your whole series of edits does indeed appear to be designed to either promote the game or minimize negative aspects. Are you associated with Axie Infinity or its developers in some fashion? MrOllie (talk) 15:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

My edits are in an attempt to:

1. Make this read better overall. Offer structure and organization.
2. Add positive elements that previous editors have missed.

Again, I didn't remove any of the objective negatives, they are all there. I am only balancing them out because previous editors seemed to only care about bashing about SLP price and the hack.

I don't believe shedding light on positives equate to being promotional. If this is the case, the world would be a dark and gloomy place. PokeMario151 (talk) 15:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Re 'balancing them out' - it sounds like you are looking for a WP:FALSEBALANCE. That concept is rejected on Misplaced Pages. Also, please answer the question I asked you. MrOllie (talk) 15:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

That's the thing sir. None of what I typed was false in any way. On the contrary, there are many statements in the unedited version that are false.

Allow me to bring up the tape. Other than the structural/organizational changes and some minor edits, here are all of the statements that I changed/added:

These are the only changes that I added - all fact and provable:

- By the end of 2021, Axie Infinity had amassed ~$1.3B in revenue and topped out at over 2,000,000 daily average users.

- In January 2022, Sky Mavis launched the Builders Program, which saw 1300 applicants hoping to build on the Axie IP.

- In September 2022, the first AxieCon was hosted in Barcelona, Spain. This event saw speakers from Sky Mavis, the Axie Infinity community, and other ecosystem enthusiasts.  It is here that Sky Mavis announced the official kickoff of Axie Infinity: Origins season 1.

- In December 2022, Axie Infinity launched the first community-built game from its Builders Program, Defenders of Lunacian Land.

- but within one week, Sky Mavis raised $150M and deployed $250M from its own balance sheet to cover the portion of the hack attributed to user assets ($400M total)

- As of September 2022, $30M of the $600M has been recovered.

Here are the statements that I changed - all false/misleading:

- Sky Mavis charges a 4.25% fee to players when they trade Axies on its marketplace.

(this makes it sound like Sky Mavis keeps the fee, which they don't. The fee accrue and will be used by and for the community)

- Sky Mavis attempted to stabilize the price by introducing new features to the game, but these attempts were ineffective.

(this is a false anecdote that can't be backed up by sources, because it's not true.)

- leaving guild leaders without their cheap third-world labor force to grind on their behalf.

(does this sound like an objective statement to you?) PokeMario151 (talk) 16:09, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't believe adding 6 objectively factual positive statements into a sea of negatives should be seen as promotional. The end result is a perfectly balanced article on both sides. PokeMario151 (talk) 16:10, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

I am disinclined to answer your questions any further if you are going to ignore mine. MrOllie (talk) 16:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Don't think I was ignoring it lol - I don't see how that's relevant to the meat of this discussion.

To answer your question, my involvement with the game is that I have some Axies and I've played the game before. I have friends who like Axie, and I like the team - they're good people.

If you are setting a trap to somehow disallow me from making edits, you should ask the same question to all previous editors. Did they somehow get burned by 2021's crypto/Axie hype cycle? Is that why they choose to focus strictly on the negatives? PokeMario151 (talk) 16:21, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Facts are facts Mr Ollie. I've added facts to the article and removed non-factual biases. Hope we can avoid getting personal and stay objective here. PokeMario151 (talk) 16:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

It is not a 'trap' - this is an area of the Misplaced Pages that has seen extensive disruption from people who are associated with crypto projects, or people who hold these assets and have a financial motive to see them increase in value. You should review WP:COI and WP:PAID and abide by them from now on - and yes, that does mean limiting yourself to using the article talk page to make suggestions rather than editing the article yourself from now on. This is also an area that has special enforcement authorized. I am required to give you a notification of that in a specific format, which I am adding below. - MrOllie (talk) 16:37, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

That's fine. I won't go in and edit the page from now on. But if these rules are in place, there should also be rules in place to prevent people who want to see things burn from making edits. Right now, these are the vast majority of people making edits to this page.

Please view my edits piece by piece as I have laid out and from an objective lens. Nothing I have added/changed is promotional or false. I hope you can come to agree with this, and if not, I'd be happy to work through them with you.

By the way, it was effectively a trap. ;) PokeMario151 (talk) 16:53, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

General sanctions notification

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date. You have shown interest in blockchain and cryptocurrencies. Due to past disruption in this topic area, the community has authorised uninvolved administrators to impose discretionary sanctions—such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks—on editors who do not strictly follow Misplaced Pages's policies, expected standards of behaviour, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic. For additional information, please see the guidance on these sanctions. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

MrOllie (talk) 16:37, 20 December 2022 (UTC)