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| Get your story straight as to the early beginnings of the Tea Party, or create a page that shows the Ron Paul Tea Party (Constitution based) and the differences between it and the later Tea Party Patriots (Republicans - RINOS). | Get your story straight as to the early beginnings of the Tea Party, or create a page that shows the Ron Paul Tea Party (Constitution based) and the differences between it and the later Tea Party Patriots (Republicans - RINOS). | ||
| == Original History of "Tea Party" Political Momentum == | |||
| Related to the links supporting the reference to the T-Party as the recent culmination of the tobacco direct enfluence on the democratic process here are a couple of links. | |||
| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/instance/4078698/bin/tobaccocontrol-2012-050815f01.jpg, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23396417/#&gid=article-figures&pid=figure-1-uid-0 | |||
| This also bears a relation to the reference to Ron Paul taking the chair of the CSE. | |||
| In an emmotionally neutral space where openness is encouraged and all viewpoints and participants are civil. | |||
| How have Philip Morris Brown & Williamson Lorillard RJ Reynolds furthered democracy with financial backing for Citizens for a Sound Economy, RJR Smokers’ Rights Groups, National Smoker Alliance, TASSC to enter a neutral political space where openness is encouraged and all viewpoints and participants are civil? ChatGPT: It is not accurate to say that Philip Morris, Brown & Williamson, Lorillard, and RJ Reynolds furthered democracy by providing financial backing to organizations such as Citizens for a Sound Economy, RJR Smokers’ Rights Groups, National Smoker Alliance, and TASSC. | |||
| These tobacco companies have a long history of engaging in deceptive and manipulative practices to protect their profits and influence public policy in their favor. They have been known to fund and support organizations that advocate for policies that benefit the tobacco industry, such as opposing tobacco taxes and smoking bans, while downplaying the health risks of smoking and targeting vulnerable communities. | |||
| While it is important for all voices to be heard in a democratic society, it is concerning when corporate interests use their wealth and power to sway public opinion and policy in their favor. It is crucial for citizens to be aware of these tactics and to critically evaluate the sources of information and influence in public discourse. | |||
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| References to the Boston Tea Party were part of Tax Day protests held in the 1990s and before. In 1984, David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch of Koch Industries founded Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE), a conservative political group whose self-described mission was "to fight for less government, lower taxes, and less regulation." Congressman Ron Paul was appointed as the first chairman of the organization. The CSE lobbied for policies favorable to corporations, particularly tobacco companies. - https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/citizens_for_a_sound_economy_report.pdf<br> | References to the Boston Tea Party were part of Tax Day protests held in the 1990s and before. In 1984, David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch of Koch Industries founded Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE), a conservative political group whose self-described mission was "to fight for less government, lower taxes, and less regulation." Congressman Ron Paul was appointed as the first chairman of the organization. The CSE lobbied for policies favorable to corporations, particularly tobacco companies. - https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/citizens_for_a_sound_economy_report.pdf<br> - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/instance/4078698/bin/tobaccocontrol-2012-050815f01.jpg<br> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23396417/#&gid=article-figures&pid=figure-1-uid-0<br> | ||
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Original "Tea Party" VS RINO "Tea Party Patriots"
During Ron Paul's bid for presidency, the "Tea Party Patriots" (red white & blue "Shield / flag" logo) ran an online discussion board called "Tea Party Patriots" - teapartypatriots.ning.com:
Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20101001205028/http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/
They were the Republican RINO group that promoted Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney and actively demonized RON PAUL and his stands on Non-intervention, "End the Fed" positions etc. and dismissed the "Original" "Tea Party" members who followed Ron Paul as well as dismissing Ron Paul as "the crazy uncle" to derail the true Tea Party movement.
RINO backed Radio hosts Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Mark Levin all slandered Ron Paul by dismissing him as "the crazy uncle".
At that time the (RINO) Republican Party would explain to the public at all the local republican headquarters that they were promoting Gingrich, Santorum and Romney and explained to people that "they", the Republican Party, "were" the "Tea Party".
This clever move by RINOs who derailed the Original RON PAUL "Tea Party" (for Constitutional Originalism) movement into the Republican "Tea Party Patriots" (Corporate Capitalist so called Conservative) movement. This occurred from 2007 to 2012.
I was active both on the teapartypatriots.ning.com discussion board defending Ron Paul as well as being active in the Ron Paul original "Tea Party" discussion board called the "Daily Paul" that promoted Ron Paul http://www.dailypaul.com:
Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20080701000000*/http://www.dailypaul.com
I and others battled the RINO's on the "Tea Party Patriot" discussion board for months in support of Ron Paul and to educate others to who the "Tea Party Patriots" were and what they were doing.
The present "Tea Party Patriots" may still be influenced or backed by Newt Gingrich (the RINO who allowed Bill Clinton to run over all of us in the west when he was Speaker), Rick Santorum ...and others, possibly still even Mitt Romney who the "Tea Party Patriots" Promoted in the 2012 Election.
Understanding the True "Tea Party" movement, (or even Trumps Movement, which follows many of Ron Paul's non-intervention and other policies) so the cause is not derailed again is important as RINO's will try to make "similarities" of "causes" to get close and then veer people in the wrong direction.
Links referring to Ron Paul Tea Party VS RINO's can be found on the old American Patriot Party (of Oregon) website: http://www.pacificwestcom.com/oregonpatriotparty/
Web Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20120717105509/http://www.pacificwestcom.com/oregonpatriotparty/
Submitted by Richard Taylor, American Patriot Party: http://www.americanpatriotparty.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C55:7900:D9A:A828:65A4:C9FA:58 (talk) 23:40, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Ron Paul Tea Party Movement
The Ron Paul Tea Party Movement started Long before the Tea Party Patriots movement which was simply a Republican Party derailment of the Ron Paul Tea Party movements.
The RINO derailment branch of the Republican party was found in the web discussion forum at: teapartypatriots.ning They backed RINOS such as Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and finally backed Mitt Romney. They did everything they could to stop Ron Paul who was the TRUE "Tea Party" movement inspiration.
Ron Paul was actually on the way to having more electoral votes than Mitt Romney, but the Republican Party made redistrict mapping to stop Ron Paul.
Get your story straight as to the early beginnings of the Tea Party, or create a page that shows the Ron Paul Tea Party (Constitution based) and the differences between it and the later Tea Party Patriots (Republicans - RINOS).
Original History of "Tea Party" Political Momentum
Related to the links supporting the reference to the T-Party as the recent culmination of the tobacco direct enfluence on the democratic process here are a couple of links. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/instance/4078698/bin/tobaccocontrol-2012-050815f01.jpg, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23396417/#&gid=article-figures&pid=figure-1-uid-0 This also bears a relation to the reference to Ron Paul taking the chair of the CSE. In an emmotionally neutral space where openness is encouraged and all viewpoints and participants are civil. How have Philip Morris Brown & Williamson Lorillard RJ Reynolds furthered democracy with financial backing for Citizens for a Sound Economy, RJR Smokers’ Rights Groups, National Smoker Alliance, TASSC to enter a neutral political space where openness is encouraged and all viewpoints and participants are civil? ChatGPT: It is not accurate to say that Philip Morris, Brown & Williamson, Lorillard, and RJ Reynolds furthered democracy by providing financial backing to organizations such as Citizens for a Sound Economy, RJR Smokers’ Rights Groups, National Smoker Alliance, and TASSC.
These tobacco companies have a long history of engaging in deceptive and manipulative practices to protect their profits and influence public policy in their favor. They have been known to fund and support organizations that advocate for policies that benefit the tobacco industry, such as opposing tobacco taxes and smoking bans, while downplaying the health risks of smoking and targeting vulnerable communities.
While it is important for all voices to be heard in a democratic society, it is concerning when corporate interests use their wealth and power to sway public opinion and policy in their favor. It is crucial for citizens to be aware of these tactics and to critically evaluate the sources of information and influence in public discourse.
Fixing Dead links/Some Citation-needed
Citation Needed:
References to the Boston Tea Party were part of Tax Day protests held in the 1990s and before. In 1984, David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch of Koch Industries founded Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE), a conservative political group whose self-described mission was "to fight for less government, lower taxes, and less regulation." Congressman Ron Paul was appointed as the first chairman of the organization. The CSE lobbied for policies favorable to corporations, particularly tobacco companies. - https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/citizens_for_a_sound_economy_report.pdf
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/instance/4078698/bin/tobaccocontrol-2012-050815f01.jpg
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23396417/#&gid=article-figures&pid=figure-1-uid-0
New/archived sources for dead links:
30. http://scholarship.kentlaw.iit.edu/fac_schol/546/
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