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			== Jun Shibata's "'Discograph'y" ==

			Hatto, please notice that unfree images like album covers should be used sparingly on Misplaced Pages, always accompanying informative text that irrefutably needs the image. The ], as it is today, is simply a gallery of unfree image, and as such, isn't acceptable.

			You may want to write a section about this artist's discography, with (]) information about each albuns sales, release dates, main tracks, artists involved, cover art, etc. And, when needed, an album cover may be used.

			But as it stands now, it must go away.

			Best regards, --''] <sup>(])</sup>'' 04:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome to Misplaced Pages!

Hello Hatto, welcome to Misplaced Pages!

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Japanese name order

Hello Hatto,

Why do you turn Japanese names around backwards?

Fg2 02:02, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm a Japanese, but I feel so strange that Japanese people are written in Japanese-style name in spite of English wikipedia. For example, writing down Utada Hikaru (Family name + First name) instead of Hikaru Utada is strange, I think. I'd extremely like to change all Japanese people's article to Western-style name. Hatto 02:23, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Even in English I write Japanese names surname-first, given name-last. I would chuckle if the Japanese Misplaced Pages had an article named ピット・ブラッド! Anyhow, Misplaced Pages does not have a policy for modern Japanese name order (however, the Manual of Style specifies that for historical people we write the surname first, for example Tokugawa Ieyasu, not Ieyasu Tokugawa). So you can write modern names the way you like. (I'd be very happy if you'd let me write them the way I like, too.) Fg2 04:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Images

Hello! I'm afraid that I've had to remove the images from your User page; fair-use images can be used (within certain limits) in articles, but Misplaced Pages guidelines are that they should be kept off User pages (see Misplaced Pages:Fair use). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

記事作成の依頼

すみませんが、今は勉強ですごく忙しく、それに今ノルウェーのMisplaced Pagesではあまり参加してないので、失礼なのに、ことわるしかないんです。だれかを見付ければと思います。Rōnin 22:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Masashi Tashiro revert

Hi, I see you do alot of work at Masashi Tashiro. You may have noticed that I (anon; different IP address, but still me) did a fairly extensive edit to the page recently, which you reverted. May I ask why? As it stands, the article is unorganized and, at times, written in moderately broken English; I feel as though my edits somewhat improved that situation. I'd like to see the the cleanup tag removed from that article eventually, so I hope that we can cooperate on this and make the page better. 4.248.32.23 02:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Owarai

Hi again Hatto. Why don't you go ahead and add your name to the participants of WikiProject Owarai! I see you're using the template already. If you list the articles that you have created, I can go through and copy-edit (proofread) them for English errors, and it would help to bring up the quality of owarai articles across Wiki. Thanks for your efforts! freshgavin ΓΛĿЌ 05:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi. About your edits on Jichokacho: I understand that you just want to add interesting information about each person, but sometimes I think it is just too much. Since this is the English Misplaced Pages, you must remember that 99.99% of the readers don't know anything about the subject. It's ok to say "Mr. Tanaka-san is married and has 3 children", but if you say something like "Mr. Tanaka was once given flowers by Ms. Satou and many people say that he is the best member of a famous group called Hidekazu which is popular in Fukui Prefecture", it is too hard to understand for most readers, and it's not interesting!

Right now, most of the geinin pages should be kept pretty small, and only the most important details included. Nobody will read an article if it is too long, especially if they don't understand anything!

The Japanese Misplaced Pages is still very different than the English Misplaced Pages. Japanese people seem to like to have many facts, but the story is not so important. In the English people, articles that have too many facts are not very good articles, so I would like to improve the quality of these articles. I hope you agree with me. ところで、お返事は日本語でもどうぞ。 freshgavin ΓΛĿЌ 14:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The {{Project Warai}} tag shouldn't really be used until after the article has been copyedited and organized. If you add the tag to every owarai article, many of which are still low quality, then it will make the WikiProject look like it is inactive. If you could just list the articles you create to the Improve section under tasks, I will copyedit them as soon as I can and move them to the Expandable stubs or Recently completed section. Or, if you like, you could just put the new articles into my sandbox, and I would edit them even faster, and then move it into the article namespace as soon as I finish copyediting.

I will create a small style guide/rules on the project page soon, and don't forget to watch the talk pages as well (especially the tasks talk page). freshgavin ΓΛĿЌ 02:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Butchake iu de~.

申し訳ないが、ちょっと家にＤＳＬ線はありません。So you realize that I have limitations of time.　田代ha凄い人という事が分かりますが！今のマイブームが最近の漫才師。よろしゅーお願いI touch my mustache.struggle 00:21, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

"I think" is a not a valid reason for bloating an article. Please research your logic at the usual resources for making good Wikipedian pages. freshgavin ΓΛĿЌ 11:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Utada Hikaru

Why did you move the article without consensus on the issue?—Tokek 06:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

今は民主主義的な方法で、話し合いながら「Utada Hikaru」vs. 「HIkaru Utada」の問題を議論している所です (Talk:Hikaru_Utada)。なのでアルバムの記事名の編集などに努力をしても最終的には水の泡になる可能性がありますので、英語のdiscussionページで参加する気がなければ今の所はお控えください。—Tokek 06:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm willing to help

Thanks for the welcome message. Just to make sure, were the articles you mentioned ones you wanted me to work on, or just examples? My Japanese is a bit rusty since it's been almost 5 years since I lived there. (^_^;; I was thinking of working on Kent Derricott first since he's the one with whom I'm most familiar. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 16:50, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Masashi Tashiro article translation

Hello, thanks for your comment on my user talk page. I've put Masashi Tashiro under Pågående/planlagte oversettelser, which translates to "Ongoing/planned translations" in English, and also added a comment that states the translation was requested by you. I haven't had much time for translation lately, but will hopefully begin working on it sometime soon. But I'll wait until the cleanup tag has been removed from the English article, so that I can translate from a clean source.

I'm also considering translating the BOØWY article, because I've taken some interest in them, and want to spread knowledge about Japanese bands. The popularity of Japanese music in Norway is increasing together with the increased publication of manga and anime DVD releases. My primary goal at Misplaced Pages is to translate Japanese rock articles, but I also work on other Japan-related writings that are needing translations. → ケイト∞ (contact) 21:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Sosuke Sumitani is done, FOR YOU! struggle 20:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

遅いですけれど、、、

はっとさん、よろしく。一月前に、依頼の返事です。もちろん助けたいんですから、私はなんとか助けることがあれば、せひにメッセージを送ってくれてください。--Shaojian 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Mediation

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いただいた加筆、新規作成依頼について

メッセージありがとうございました。

まず誤解を解いておくと、私は別に翻訳を生業としているわけではありません。それに、Misplaced Pagesには基本的に遊びとして参加しています。関わる記事については主体的に選びますし、Misplaced Pagesでの活動は完遂義務を負う仕事としたくないのでどなたかからの「依頼」を正式に受けることはできかねます（記事名が伏せられた状態ではなおさらのことです）。翻訳依頼のページに掲載されている記事については、関心が向いたものには手を出すかもしれませんが、これも確約はできません。悪しからず。Aotake 04:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Japanese Celebrity Request

Hello Hatto. Sorry for the late late reply, I was too busy. Who is that Japanese Celebrity you'd like to have on Turkish Misplaced Pages? Ulashima 12:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Erika Sawajiri

Hi The first paragraph of this article says that Erika Sawajiri "belongs to xyz Promotions". AFAIK they don't have slavery in Japan do they? It may be a translation thing I guess but that should be worded differently in English. I would be more inclined to say "is represented by" or "works for" but I am not sure of the true arrangement. Garrie 04:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Tashiro.jpg

I note that you have recreated the deleted image Image:Tashiro.jpg. That image was deleted by myself as a copyright violation. You have stated that the image is a publicity photo which may be used under fair-use, but that does not, in fact, appear to be the case. You will see that in the publicity photo guidelines, with which you are, of course, familiar (having tagged a number of images with the template) that Note that the above only applies to photos that are explicitly distributed for publicity purposes, and does not apply to most photographs of celebrities. There is no evidence of the photo in question falling into such a category as it has simply been published on a website. I have relisted the image as a copyvio and it is now listed here, should you wish to discuss the issue, please do so there.

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Your revert to the Masashi Tashiro article

You're treating the Masashi Tashiro article as it were your own personal article. This is not the first time you revert any changes made in that article. My changes were improvement to the article and you'll need a better explanation than "strange revert" to revert them. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the Misplaced Pages guidelines because I have no intention of linking every single one of them you're violating just because you are unco-operative. Mackan 14:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Mr. Mackan, free and liberal edits should be always guaranteed! Why do you remove it? Why does it have a problem? I don't understand. Don't you think freedom of expression shold be guaranteed? You are a cold and impolite person because you can't accept my and others' freedom and liberty. I hope free edit! (but it's not immoral and vandalistic writing) Please don't remove sentences you think "it's useless" at your own discretion. --Hatto 01:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hatto, I'm glad you finally chose to respond. Read the Misplaced Pages guidelines, Misplaced Pages is not about freedom of expression and not about "free edit!", as I think previous editors have told you on numerous occasions. Also, refrain from personal attacks ("cold and impolite person"). And please respond in detail to my edits on the Masashi Tashiro talk page before you revert it again. One more revert and you're breaking the 3 revert rule, which doesn't seem like a smart move now that you are being meditated on.Mackan 01:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

3R rule

You just broke the Three reverts rule. I've reported you here Mackan 02:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Requests for comments

I'm posting the link to your requests for comments here so that anybody having problems with you can find it: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Hatto Mackan 02:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

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Regarding reversions made on June 29 2006 (UTC) to Masashi_Tashiro

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Please explain

Please explain what the hell you are aiming at when you are removing my comments from the Masashi Tashiro talk page (). Mackan 06:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Recent moves

Why are you moving xx (Owarai) pages to xx (Comedian)? freshofftheufo ΓΛĿЌ 19:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Kumazawa Banzan

Hello Hatto. I translated the Kazuhide Uekusa article to Spanish, but be warned, as it might be deleted by other users (there is a contextualization tag, in other words, they don't know how this guy's biography is relevant!). Anyway, I wanted your help for something. There is an article about Kumazawa Banzan, which is a stub. If you can, please translate for me any information from the Japanese Misplaced Pages article in order to expand it. Anyone who reads this is also invited to help me if they want. —Dalobuca.

いたずら、不必要な情報の書き込み、名誉毀損もしくは侮辱罪となりかねない書き込みへの注意

植草氏に対しての書き込みについて。 2ちゃんねらーだけの間で広まっている名前や広告のパロディーは、それだけで社会的に広まっているとはいえません。日本、アメリカ双方で刑法に抵触する可能性があるような書き込みはやめてください。 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.192.240.110 (talk • contribs)

ウィキプロジェクト

こちらへご注目してください。 freshofftheufo ΓΛĿЌ 03:58, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

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Stop removing "replaceable fair use" tags

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INORAN's name

Hello Hatto!

I'm not sure why there was an edit to INORAN's name on his wiki page, but I just wanted to say that INORAN refers to himself in all caps in written form. I'm in his FC and that is how it's always written by him and his staff. I'll change it back next week sometime, but I just wanted to give you a heads up if you didn't know. Thanks and have a good day! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by S'Vox (talk • contribs) 01:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

I have explained to you about INORAN's name. Since this is a place of reference, his name is determined by how INORAN writes his name as you see on his site

Please stop changing the name if you have no specific reason to.

Thank you.

Your block reverts at Blackface

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Your inclusion of information about the blackface doo-wop group was deleted, because it does not fall within the scope of the article. While they may blacken their faces, they do not so in the stereotypical style of blackface caricature, which is what the article treats. They simply darken their faces in order to play black "characters," if you will -- black performers. There is nothing stereotypical about them, judging from the photo you provided.

I have to say, though, the phenomenon (and the photo, as well) is interesting. If there is an article on this group, or if you'd like to write one, then a link to the article under the "Compare" section of Blackface] would certainly be welcome/appropriate.

Furthermore, even if the information on the doo-wop group were appropriate, it's in the wrong section entirely.

Ditto for the information about "Fastnacht." There has been no evidence presented that revelers do anything other than darken their faces -- which is insufficient for inclusion in this article. If you have additional information that they actually do so in stereotypical blackface caricature, then please provide it. A photo also would be helpful.

The author bell hooks does not capitalize her name, as is made quite evident in the in-line note in the text. Your reversal of this edit makes no sense. (You will note that the Misplaced Pages article on her does not capitalize her name, either.)

The wording of "affect the countenance" has been discussed ad nauseam on the talk page. Please read the talk page history on this matter and offer your rationale before reverting. deeceevoice 09:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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Image:Masami Nagasawa.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Masami Nagasawa.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Misplaced Pages articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

Go to the image description page and edit it to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}}, without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template.
On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

Fair use rationale for Image:Mirrorman_Uekusa.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Mirrorman_Uekusa.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Misplaced Pages articles constitutes fair use. When you use a boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

Please

Please, do not remove the {{Replaceable fair use}} tag from images. Follow the instructions in the tag itself if you want to dispute it. --Abu badali 03:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Egashira.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Egashira.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Misplaced Pages articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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Jun Shibata's "'Discograph'y"

Hatto, please notice that unfree images like album covers should be used sparingly on Misplaced Pages, always accompanying informative text that irrefutably needs the image. The discography section on Jun Shibata's article, as it is today, is simply a gallery of unfree image, and as such, isn't acceptable.

You may want to write a section about this artist's discography, with (sourced) information about each albuns sales, release dates, main tracks, artists involved, cover art, etc. And, when needed, an album cover may be used.

But as it stands now, it must go away.

Best regards, --Abu badali 04:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)