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	* '''Oppose''' why is it "pointless", is this is your personal opinion? As a soap editor, it provides readers with a differentiation between current and former characters. Due to the size of the former list, a merge would put ] weight. – ] • 10:58, 9 September 2023 (UTC)		* '''Oppose''' why is it "pointless", is this is your personal opinion? As a soap editor, it provides readers with a differentiation between current and former characters. Due to the size of the former list, a merge would put ] weight. – ] • 10:58, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
	* '''Strong opppose''' – it is not pointless. It is important as it ensures that readers are aware between the difference between current and former characters. This is not a sitcom or drama that has had 20 or less main characters – this is a soap opera with constantly changing characters. I disagree that it means that there is a lot of work for editors – it is not, as we are constantly updating character pages etc and we also move characters when they debut, leave, return, are upgraded to regular or recast. Usually when a character leaves an experienced editor or IP moves the character to the former list the minute the episode airs. Both pages are quite big and merging them would cause the page to be too long and possibly tagged with a too long template, let alone it making it even harder to navigate. ] – two pages (one of former and one for present) is not an issue at all and makes it easier to navigate. Also, that policy, along with ], explains how it is important to not make pages too long and too big as it affects download times and creates other issues and suggests that long tables are split off into stand alone pages. The former and present character lists have been used for decades by the soap community through excessive consensus (as I have seen through looking at a lot of the revision history etc from years ago) and this has worked well for years and never caused an issue, so I am surprised that it has been brought up now. ] (]) 12:05, 9 September 2023 (UTC)		* '''Strong opppose''' – it is not pointless. It is important as it ensures that readers are aware between the difference between current and former characters. This is not a sitcom or drama that has had 20 or less main characters – this is a soap opera with constantly changing characters. I disagree that it means that there is a lot of work for editors – it is not, as we are constantly updating character pages etc and we also move characters when they debut, leave, return, are upgraded to regular or recast. Usually when a character leaves an experienced editor or IP moves the character to the former list the minute the episode airs. Both pages are quite big and merging them would cause the page to be too long and possibly tagged with a too long template, let alone it making it even harder to navigate. ] – two pages (one of former and one for present) is not an issue at all and makes it easier to navigate. Also, that policy, along with ], explains how it is important to not make pages too long and too big as it affects download times and creates other issues and suggests that long tables are split off into stand alone pages. The former and present character lists have been used for decades by the soap community through excessive consensus (as I have seen through looking at a lot of the revision history etc from years ago) and this has worked well for years and never caused an issue, so I am surprised that it has been brought up now. ] (]) 12:05, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
			:This discussion has been duplicated across multiple lists. I believe it would have been better to begin a discussion regarding the issue at ]. We could discuss them all at once.] <small>]</small> 17:43, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

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Can somebody update Priya Sharma's character duration by ending it with –2022? We now know she is leaving the show and a source has already been added confirming this. 87.114.2.209 (talk) 16:35, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Done Soaper1234 - talk 20:52, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Is she definitely leaving in the New Year?87.114.2.209 (talk) 22:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, 87.114.2.209, I believe she is leaving in the new year, as that is what the sources are saying.

Blanchey (talk) 08:58, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

OK. The one I saw said she is due to film her final scenes in a few months time so you are probably right.87.114.2.209 (talk) 17:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Merge from List of former Emmerdale characters

It's pointless to split lists of characters from a show into current and former. Eventually the show will finish and the merge will be needed. Right now the split doesn't add any value. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:10, 9 September 2023 (UTC) PS. See also currently ongoing Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of former Hollyoaks characters which inspired me to start this merge and identical merge proposals at Talk:List_of_EastEnders_characters#Merge_from_List_of_former_EastEnders_characters, Talk:List_of_Doctors_characters#Merge_from_List_of_former_Doctors_characters, Talk:List_of_Coronation_Street_characters#Merge_from_List_of_former_Coronation_Street_characters, Talk:List_of_Home_and_Away_characters#Merge_from_List_of_former_Home_and_Away_characters and Talk:List_of_Neighbours_characters#Merge_from_List_of_former_Neighbours_characters.

Oppose why is it "pointless", is this is your personal opinion? As a soap editor, it provides readers with a differentiation between current and former characters. Due to the size of the former list, a merge would put WP:UNDUE weight. – Meena • 10:58, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Strong opppose – it is not pointless. It is important as it ensures that readers are aware between the difference between current and former characters. This is not a sitcom or drama that has had 20 or less main characters – this is a soap opera with constantly changing characters. I disagree that it means that there is a lot of work for editors – it is not, as we are constantly updating character pages etc and we also move characters when they debut, leave, return, are upgraded to regular or recast. Usually when a character leaves an experienced editor or IP moves the character to the former list the minute the episode airs. Both pages are quite big and merging them would cause the page to be too long and possibly tagged with a *too long* template, let alone it making it even harder to navigate. WP:Misplaced Pages is not paper – two pages (one of former and one for present) is not an issue at all and makes it easier to navigate. Also, that policy, along with Misplaced Pages:Article size, explains how it is important to not make pages too long and too big as it affects download times and creates other issues and suggests that long tables are split off into stand alone pages. The former and present character lists have been used for decades by the soap community through excessive consensus (as I have seen through looking at a lot of the revision history etc from years ago) and this has worked well for years and never caused an issue, so I am surprised that it has been brought up now. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 12:05, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

This discussion has been duplicated across multiple lists. I believe it would have been better to begin a discussion regarding the issue at WP:SOAPS. We could discuss them all at once.Rain the 1 17:43, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

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