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| :::As I said, they are senior. Are you suggesting that you are unable to find sources out there in the world that provides a list of senior Fatah personnel? ] applies just as much to list deletion discussions as any other, and notability is based on the literature available out there in the world. Did you do this? For example is a list of Fatah revolutionary council members, and in fact perhaps a title along those lines might help focus the scope, but lists of members of political bodies are plentiful. Is your next AfD nomination going to be for ]? ] (]) 06:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC) | :::As I said, they are senior. Are you suggesting that you are unable to find sources out there in the world that provides a list of senior Fatah personnel? ] applies just as much to list deletion discussions as any other, and notability is based on the literature available out there in the world. Did you do this? For example is a list of Fatah revolutionary council members, and in fact perhaps a title along those lines might help focus the scope, but lists of members of political bodies are plentiful. Is your next AfD nomination going to be for ]? ] (]) 06:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Hey, would appreciate keeping the discussion to the article and not the editors. But would point out ] and note a non-consensus AfD discussion for that article. In addition, that the article subject is discussed as a group and group inclusion criteria is discrete, satisfying ] in my eyes. The Fatah article, on the other hand, does not. There are thousands of Fatah members, and there's rightly not a ], for example. Happy to entertain a discussion about narrowing the scope of the article to the Revolutionary Council, for example, that is discussed as a group and is more defined as a possible list subject. ] (]) 06:50, 27 October 2023 (UTC) | ::::Hey, would appreciate keeping the discussion to the article and not the editors. But would point out ] and note a non-consensus AfD discussion for that article. In addition, that the article subject is discussed as a group and group inclusion criteria is discrete, satisfying ] in my eyes. The Fatah article, on the other hand, does not. There are thousands of Fatah members, and there's rightly not a ], for example. Happy to entertain a discussion about narrowing the scope of the article to the Revolutionary Council, for example, that is discussed as a group and is more defined as a possible list subject. ] (]) 06:50, 27 October 2023 (UTC) | ||
| :::::I've into founders (which is a very discrete group) and other senior members that represent a less discernable grouping for the aid of this threa. Red linked entries were removed. ] (]) 07:46, 27 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Kind of a pointless list containing a random mishmash of Fatah-affiliated individuals, but with no clear rhyme or reason for inclusion. More appropriate as a category, which already exists. Longhornsg (talk) 21:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Lists of people, Military, and Palestine. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Not sure I understand the
"no clear rhyme or reason for inclusion"
point here - it appears fairly obvious that it is a largely a list of senior Fatah members, most of which are notable, though the red links of course need clearing out. As a list of notable senior individuals within a very notable organization, there is a pretty obvious point to it. Iskandar323 (talk) 05:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC)- There are 88+ Fatah-associated individuals with Misplaced Pages articles. Why are some included on this list and others not? Why are individuals without a page included on this list and others not? What's the inclusion criteria that would make this list meet WP:NLIST? What's the point of this page instead of just the category? There's also a strong argument to be made that the page should be blanked because nothing is sourced. Longhornsg (talk) 05:47, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- As I said, they are senior. Are you suggesting that you are unable to find sources out there in the world that provides a list of senior Fatah personnel? WP:BEFORE applies just as much to list deletion discussions as any other, and notability is based on the literature available out there in the world. Did you do this? For example here is a list of Fatah revolutionary council members, and in fact perhaps a title along those lines might help focus the scope, but lists of members of political bodies are plentiful. Is your next AfD nomination going to be for List of Likud Knesset members? Iskandar323 (talk) 06:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, would appreciate keeping the discussion to the article and not the editors. But would point out WP:OTHERSTUFF and note a non-consensus AfD discussion for that article. In addition, that the article subject is discussed as a group and group inclusion criteria is discrete, satisfying WP:NLIST in my eyes. The Fatah article, on the other hand, does not. There are thousands of Fatah members, and there's rightly not a List of Republican Party members, for example. Happy to entertain a discussion about narrowing the scope of the article to the Revolutionary Council, for example, that is discussed as a group and is more defined as a possible list subject. Longhornsg (talk) 06:50, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- I've split the list into founders (which is a very discrete group) and other senior members that represent a less discernable grouping for the aid of this threa. Red linked entries were removed. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:46, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, would appreciate keeping the discussion to the article and not the editors. But would point out WP:OTHERSTUFF and note a non-consensus AfD discussion for that article. In addition, that the article subject is discussed as a group and group inclusion criteria is discrete, satisfying WP:NLIST in my eyes. The Fatah article, on the other hand, does not. There are thousands of Fatah members, and there's rightly not a List of Republican Party members, for example. Happy to entertain a discussion about narrowing the scope of the article to the Revolutionary Council, for example, that is discussed as a group and is more defined as a possible list subject. Longhornsg (talk) 06:50, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- As I said, they are senior. Are you suggesting that you are unable to find sources out there in the world that provides a list of senior Fatah personnel? WP:BEFORE applies just as much to list deletion discussions as any other, and notability is based on the literature available out there in the world. Did you do this? For example here is a list of Fatah revolutionary council members, and in fact perhaps a title along those lines might help focus the scope, but lists of members of political bodies are plentiful. Is your next AfD nomination going to be for List of Likud Knesset members? Iskandar323 (talk) 06:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- There are 88+ Fatah-associated individuals with Misplaced Pages articles. Why are some included on this list and others not? Why are individuals without a page included on this list and others not? What's the inclusion criteria that would make this list meet WP:NLIST? What's the point of this page instead of just the category? There's also a strong argument to be made that the page should be blanked because nothing is sourced. Longhornsg (talk) 05:47, 27 October 2023 (UTC)